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Bill Clinton gave China the technology to shoot a rocket into space...he had to have Ron Brown murdered to push it through
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Wrong.

America racist persecution of one of the highly brilliant Chinese born rocket scientist in USA, forced him to return back to China and build the rocket industry for military and space. Your lost, racist retards.

With your chinese targeting agenda since Trump, it will cause brain drain on USA. USA own policy will ensure the accelerating decline of USA.
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And the Chinese govt is bragging about it now on their social media while rubbing their space launches in India’s face as compared to India dealing with covid. (Which came from mfing China!) Insane.
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This is why I never believe those posters who claim collisions with asteroids or other space objects and lay a claim to exactly where and when it will hit. Experts can never even figure out where satellites (in this case a rocket) will hit when it's falling out of orbit just above the Earth's surface.
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It's a complex subject few here understand. A decaying satellite is being gradually dragged down by earth's atmosphere, but the exact density of the tenuous upper atmosphere will vary with solar activity and the amount of drag will vary with the attitude shape and density of the satellite. There are a lot of variables there, some of which change over time and are hard to accurately predict. This means the exact decay time is unknown. Right now, this site predicts a decay occurring one week from now, but with an uncertainty of 41 hours. That uncertainty will decrease as we get closer to the decay, but even within the last day there could still be one orbit or more of uncertainty.
[link to aerospace.org (secure)]

With asteroid collisions, there is generally a region of uncertainty that may intersect with the earth and make it hard to predict an exact location, but if the impact does not occur within a fairly tight window of time then it will not occur at all as earth will not be at the intersection point when the asteroid crosses earth's orbit around the sun.
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Thanks Astronaut! Can you tell us who you really are or how you got to be so smart about these things?
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Riker or Spock? Data perhaps, so many fictional characters to choose from.

Space Dog?
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Isn't this like the 3rd or 4th headline like this since 2012? I'm not saying there isn't something coming, OP, just that I am pretty certain GLP has covered this topic on several occasions over the years. And here we are again. Fool me once...

At what point do we realize the "chinese satellite/ rocket/ space debris" BS is really the mainstream bracing for some incoming doom that when it arrives, they want us all saying to ourselves "oh, that enormous fireball that just hit NYC? That's just the Chinese space junk they warned us about. Nothing to see here".

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The other day I saw this crazy news alert on my cell phone "Large segment of Europe destroyed by asteroid." I swear my heart missed a beat!

I of course click this thing and it's "Large segment of Europe destroyed by asteroid in blah blah blah simulation."

JEEZUS. I didn't like that feeling much.

wtf

Now there's this. Not happy! I hope it ends up a nothingburger.

Astro, can you weigh in at all on what you think could be a worst case scenario here?

I'm going back to re-read your post and make sense of it. I'm a bio sciences/chem person--total dolt when it comes to physics, math, or astronomy.
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On the u of w ?
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And the Chinese govt is bragging about it now on their social media while rubbing their space launches in India’s face as compared to India dealing with covid. (Which came from mfing China!) Insane.
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Fake + fake = reality?
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Chinese roulette!
Take a chance!

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Isn't this like the 3rd or 4th headline like this since 2012? I'm not saying there isn't something coming, OP, just that I am pretty certain GLP has covered this topic on several occasions over the years. And here we are again. Fool me once...

At what point do we realize the "chinese satellite/ rocket/ space debris" BS is really the mainstream bracing for some incoming doom that when it arrives, they want us all saying to ourselves "oh, that enormous fireball that just hit NYC? That's just the Chinese space junk they warned us about. Nothing to see here".

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At no point will we become delusional.
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Chinese roulette!
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Isn't this like the 3rd or 4th headline like this since 2012? I'm not saying there isn't something coming, OP, just that I am pretty certain GLP has covered this topic on several occasions over the years. And here we are again. Fool me once...

At what point do we realize the "chinese satellite/ rocket/ space debris" BS is really the mainstream bracing for some incoming doom that when it arrives, they want us all saying to ourselves "oh, that enormous fireball that just hit NYC? That's just the Chinese space junk they warned us about. Nothing to see here".

Calln-Bs1
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It is like the annual 'three gorges dam about to collapse' threads...

stupthrd
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This is why I never believe those posters who claim collisions with asteroids or other space objects and lay a claim to exactly where and when it will hit. Experts can never even figure out where satellites (in this case a rocket) will hit when it's falling out of orbit just above the Earth's surface.
 Quoting: GA Girl


It's a complex subject few here understand. A decaying satellite is being gradually dragged down by earth's atmosphere, but the exact density of the tenuous upper atmosphere will vary with solar activity and the amount of drag will vary with the attitude shape and density of the satellite. There are a lot of variables there, some of which change over time and are hard to accurately predict. This means the exact decay time is unknown. Right now, this site predicts a decay occurring one week from now, but with an uncertainty of 41 hours. That uncertainty will decrease as we get closer to the decay, but even within the last day there could still be one orbit or more of uncertainty.
[link to aerospace.org (secure)]

With asteroid collisions, there is generally a region of uncertainty that may intersect with the earth and make it hard to predict an exact location, but if the impact does not occur within a fairly tight window of time then it will not occur at all as earth will not be at the intersection point when the asteroid crosses earth's orbit around the sun.
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Thanks Astronaut! Can you tell us who you really are or how you got to be so smart about these things?
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He claims NASA relies on him to help carry out experiments.

rofl5
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And the Chinese govt is bragging about it now on their social media while rubbing their space launches in India’s face as compared to India dealing with covid. (Which came from mfing China!) Insane.
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Definitely CIA propaganda again to sow a rift between China and India. Divide and conquer is in CIA's playbook.

This constant black campaign of bearing false witness, by the so called Judeo Christian nation, the Babylon USA, which breach their own 10 commandments, will ensure USA destruction, just like the ancient Babylon.

The more lies you throw at China, if China responds well by not getting triggered and keep moving forward in advancing their technology and uplifting the quality of life for their citizens and those nations open for infrastructure and economy upgrade, will ensure the curse of the law strikes upon the lies peddlers, the imperialist colonialist USA and Britain, the present day Babylon.
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Isn't this like the 3rd or 4th headline like this since 2012? I'm not saying there isn't something coming, OP, just that I am pretty certain GLP has covered this topic on several occasions over the years. And here we are again. Fool me once...

At what point do we realize the "chinese satellite/ rocket/ space debris" BS is really the mainstream bracing for some incoming doom that when it arrives, they want us all saying to ourselves "oh, that enormous fireball that just hit NYC? That's just the Chinese space junk they warned us about. Nothing to see here".

Calln-Bs1
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It is like the annual 'three gorges dam about to collapse' threads...

stupthrd
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EXACTLY! Both that and the "free falling chinese satellite" stories are getting old. They need to retire that playbook and come up with some new material!
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Isn't this like the 3rd or 4th headline like this since 2012? I'm not saying there isn't something coming, OP, just that I am pretty certain GLP has covered this topic on several occasions over the years. And here we are again. Fool me once...

At what point do we realize the "chinese satellite/ rocket/ space debris" BS is really the mainstream bracing for some incoming doom that when it arrives, they want us all saying to ourselves "oh, that enormous fireball that just hit NYC? That's just the Chinese space junk they warned us about. Nothing to see here".

Calln-Bs1
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It is like the annual 'three gorges dam about to collapse' threads...

stupthrd
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LOL. 3 gorges dam collapse, China this, China that. The more you people believe in such bullshit propaganda, the more you live in delusion. The more you live in delusion, the faster your nation declines coz you waste your energy on bullshit, not R&D to maintain your technological advantage.

The majority of Americans today, left or right, are delusional. Go ahead. Hate fact for your own peril.
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Wow after 7 pages no one caught on to the false flag here?

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A Chinese rocket that became one of the largest pieces of space debris plummeted towards earth today.
The rocket’s empty core stage, weighing nearly 18 tons, is the largest piece of space debris to fall uncontrolled back to Earth since 1991.
It is the fourth largest piece of space debris to ever fall.
Jonathan McDowell, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, tracked the fall on Twitter.

A Chinese rocket became one of the largest pieces of space debris to plummet towards earth Tuesday, passing directly over Los Angeles and New York City’s Central Park, before landing in the Atlantic Ocean.

As the nearly 18 ton piece of space debris free fell towards earth, those following the space trash's re-entry path did not know where it would land.

China launched the Long March-5B rocket with an unmanned prototype spacecraft into orbit on May 5. The rocket was launched from Wenchang Space Launch Center in south China's Hainan province.

The rocket’s empty core stage, weighing nearly 18 tons, is the largest piece of space debris to fall uncontrolled back to Earth since 1991 and the fourth biggest ever.

The pieces of the rocket that weren’t consumed during the descent crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of West Africa, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.

"For a large object like this, dense pieces like parts of the rocket engines could survive reentry and crash to Earth," Jonathan McDowell, astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, told CNN. "Once they reach the lower atmosphere they are traveling relatively slowly, so worst case is they could take out a house." He added that it would be localized damage and not something widespread, similar to if a piece fell off of an airplane and hit something on the ground.

McDowell was tracing the space debris fall on Twitter, where scores of interested followers around the world engaged and asked questions. “Any estimate where [it will fall],” one user asked. McDowell responded “Not yet. We may have a guess on the day of. Remember that 10 minutes error in reentry time is 4000 km error in location.”

Incidentally, tracking objects barreling through the atmosphere is difficult to predict. SpaceTrack, which tracks objects such as satellites in Earth's orbit, was able to narrow down potential reentry areas to Australia, the U.S. and Africa.

“The problem is that it is traveling very fast horizontally through the atmosphere and it's hard to predict when it will finally come down,”: McDowell explained on Twitter. "The Air Force's final prediction was plus or minus half an hour, during which time it went 3/4 of the way around the world. It's pretty hard to do any better."

Another user asked on Twitter “Is there any risk that more dense parts such as engines will make it through to the ground?” to which McDowell responded “That is possible, yes.”

The three pieces that beat out Tuesday's space debris in size were Skylab in 1979, Skylab's rocket stage in 1975 and Salyut 7 in 1991. It could be argued that the Columbia space shuttle in 2003 could be included, since it was uncontrolled on its descent back down to Earth.
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If it was only 'one ton' I would have a great joke.
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Chinese roulette!
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Wow after 7 pages no one caught on to the false flag here?

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A Chinese rocket that became one of the largest pieces of space debris plummeted towards earth today.
The rocket’s empty core stage, weighing nearly 18 tons, is the largest piece of space debris to fall uncontrolled back to Earth since 1991.
It is the fourth largest piece of space debris to ever fall.
Jonathan McDowell, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, tracked the fall on Twitter.

A Chinese rocket became one of the largest pieces of space debris to plummet towards earth Tuesday, passing directly over Los Angeles and New York City’s Central Park, before landing in the Atlantic Ocean.

As the nearly 18 ton piece of space debris free fell towards earth, those following the space trash's re-entry path did not know where it would land.

China launched the Long March-5B rocket with an unmanned prototype spacecraft into orbit on May 5. The rocket was launched from Wenchang Space Launch Center in south China's Hainan province.

The rocket’s empty core stage, weighing nearly 18 tons, is the largest piece of space debris to fall uncontrolled back to Earth since 1991 and the fourth biggest ever.

The pieces of the rocket that weren’t consumed during the descent crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of West Africa, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.

"For a large object like this, dense pieces like parts of the rocket engines could survive reentry and crash to Earth," Jonathan McDowell, astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, told CNN. "Once they reach the lower atmosphere they are traveling relatively slowly, so worst case is they could take out a house." He added that it would be localized damage and not something widespread, similar to if a piece fell off of an airplane and hit something on the ground.

McDowell was tracing the space debris fall on Twitter, where scores of interested followers around the world engaged and asked questions. “Any estimate where [it will fall],” one user asked. McDowell responded “Not yet. We may have a guess on the day of. Remember that 10 minutes error in reentry time is 4000 km error in location.”

Incidentally, tracking objects barreling through the atmosphere is difficult to predict. SpaceTrack, which tracks objects such as satellites in Earth's orbit, was able to narrow down potential reentry areas to Australia, the U.S. and Africa.

“The problem is that it is traveling very fast horizontally through the atmosphere and it's hard to predict when it will finally come down,”: McDowell explained on Twitter. "The Air Force's final prediction was plus or minus half an hour, during which time it went 3/4 of the way around the world. It's pretty hard to do any better."

Another user asked on Twitter “Is there any risk that more dense parts such as engines will make it through to the ground?” to which McDowell responded “That is possible, yes.”

The three pieces that beat out Tuesday's space debris in size were Skylab in 1979, Skylab's rocket stage in 1975 and Salyut 7 in 1991. It could be argued that the Columbia space shuttle in 2003 could be included, since it was uncontrolled on its descent back down to Earth.
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Weird, I don't remember this one last May. Mandela effect?
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This is why I never believe those posters who claim collisions with asteroids or other space objects and lay a claim to exactly where and when it will hit. Experts can never even figure out where satellites (in this case a rocket) will hit when it's falling out of orbit just above the Earth's surface.
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It's a complex subject few here understand. A decaying satellite is being gradually dragged down by earth's atmosphere, but the exact density of the tenuous upper atmosphere will vary with solar activity and the amount of drag will vary with the attitude shape and density of the satellite. There are a lot of variables there, some of which change over time and are hard to accurately predict. This means the exact decay time is unknown. Right now, this site predicts a decay occurring one week from now, but with an uncertainty of 41 hours. That uncertainty will decrease as we get closer to the decay, but even within the last day there could still be one orbit or more of uncertainty.
[link to aerospace.org (secure)]

With asteroid collisions, there is generally a region of uncertainty that may intersect with the earth and make it hard to predict an exact location, but if the impact does not occur within a fairly tight window of time then it will not occur at all as earth will not be at the intersection point when the asteroid crosses earth's orbit around the sun.
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That was a whole truckload of words that tried to sound smart but in fact all you did was confirm his point that they don't have a clue.

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If you don't understand why there's such a large difference in the time uncertainty between a satellite decay and a possible asteroid impact, that's on you. I explained it in detail. That was not "to try to sound smart." I am smart. I made a good faith effort to educate you, your ignorance is your own doing at this point.
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This is why I never believe those posters who claim collisions with asteroids or other space objects and lay a claim to exactly where and when it will hit. Experts can never even figure out where satellites (in this case a rocket) will hit when it's falling out of orbit just above the Earth's surface.
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It's a complex subject few here understand. A decaying satellite is being gradually dragged down by earth's atmosphere, but the exact density of the tenuous upper atmosphere will vary with solar activity and the amount of drag will vary with the attitude shape and density of the satellite. There are a lot of variables there, some of which change over time and are hard to accurately predict. This means the exact decay time is unknown. Right now, this site predicts a decay occurring one week from now, but with an uncertainty of 41 hours. That uncertainty will decrease as we get closer to the decay, but even within the last day there could still be one orbit or more of uncertainty.
[link to aerospace.org (secure)]

With asteroid collisions, there is generally a region of uncertainty that may intersect with the earth and make it hard to predict an exact location, but if the impact does not occur within a fairly tight window of time then it will not occur at all as earth will not be at the intersection point when the asteroid crosses earth's orbit around the sun.
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That was a whole truckload of words that tried to sound smart but in fact all you did was confirm his point that they don't have a clue.

5a
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Hey AC, you were able in only a few words to confirm you don't have a clue. As always, your insights are appreciated Astro.

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Only 8 tons of it is going to hit the ground. Think two Amazon delivery vans.

Or a bad Humvee drop from the C130.
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Will it orbit Uranus first?
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Only 8 tons of it is going to hit the ground. Think two Amazon delivery vans.

Or a bad Humvee drop from the C130.
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An out-of-control 21-ton Chinese rocket is falling to earth and could land on populated areas, experts warn. China’s Long March 5b rocket that launched Thursday is predicted to crash back to Earth within the next few days.

Jonathan McDowell, an astronomer who tracks objects orbiting Earth, told SpaceNews that it's path takes it ‘a little farther north than New York, Madrid and Beijing and as far south as southern Chile and Wellington, New Zealand'.

Satellite trackers have detected the 100-foot-long rocket travelling at more than four miles per second

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Somebody gonna get Donnie Darko'd
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Will the linked tracker confirm when it's re-entered/broken up?
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already a currently pinned thread on this
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This is why I never believe those posters who claim collisions with asteroids or other space objects and lay a claim to exactly where and when it will hit. Experts can never even figure out where satellites (in this case a rocket) will hit when it's falling out of orbit just above the Earth's surface.
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It's a complex subject few here understand. A decaying satellite is being gradually dragged down by earth's atmosphere, but the exact density of the tenuous upper atmosphere will vary with solar activity and the amount of drag will vary with the attitude shape and density of the satellite. There are a lot of variables there, some of which change over time and are hard to accurately predict. This means the exact decay time is unknown. Right now, this site predicts a decay occurring one week from now, but with an uncertainty of 41 hours. That uncertainty will decrease as we get closer to the decay, but even within the last day there could still be one orbit or more of uncertainty.
[link to aerospace.org (secure)]

With asteroid collisions, there is generally a region of uncertainty that may intersect with the earth and make it hard to predict an exact location, but if the impact does not occur within a fairly tight window of time then it will not occur at all as earth will not be at the intersection point when the asteroid crosses earth's orbit around the sun.
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That was a whole truckload of words that tried to sound smart but in fact all you did was confirm his point that they don't have a clue.

5a
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Hey AC, you were able in only a few words to confirm you don't have a clue. As always, your insights are appreciated Astro.
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They both said the same damn thing but at least 96 said it with brief eloquence. The resident space shill composed a master thesis in excusive word vomit!

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