"There Is No Shortage?" Train Loads Of Lumber Stacked As Far As The Eye Can See | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78862824 Romania 05/04/2021 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keep buying into it retards. You are being played. Now they are whipping up the shortage stories and being pushed by resident propogandists. Something fucky going on... Foil hat on. |
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Saint Lance the Odd from BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada 05/04/2021 08:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many times has this video been posted on this site in the past week??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78862824 Keep buying into it retards. You are being played. Now they are whipping up the shortage stories and being pushed by resident propogandists. Something fucky going on... Foil hat on. Yes, my thread was pined a week ago (same vid). The outcome of it was pretty eye opening. There doesn't seem to be much change in Canuck pricing, what was interesting was the huge discrepancy in State to State pricing. Or maybe it was region to region pricing, in the US. Nada change ($29.00 for a decent sheet of ply) in Upstate NY, upwards of $99.00 for the same product elsewhere. There doesn't seem to be a shortage, just people in many places being short changed. Maybe Interstate commerce has been 'covided'? If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78862824 Romania 05/04/2021 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (((Speculators))) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70056665 Full stop. Start with BlackRock. They have NO right to invest in single family homes. They have every right. As well as you and I. Blackstone was buying up during the foreclosure crisis back in 2013. And they had a right too.. There is some tie to blackrock, but that is not it.. |
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HempWillSaveTheWorld
User ID: 79118999 United States 05/04/2021 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of the most important things we've learned over the past year is the vulnerability of global supply chains. Most notably, supply disruptions of lumber have catapulted prices to the moon. Quoting: Anon Braveheart The narrative touted in the public domain is that COVID-19 sparked a dramatic underestimate in capacity by sawmills early in the pandemic as the Federal Reserve slashed interest rates to zero, sparking a housing boom. The influx of demand outpaced supply and has caused lumber prices to jump 340% from a year ago, according to Random Lengths. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] They are trying to force inflation to kill the dollar HempWillSaveTheWorld Vi Veri Vniversum Vivus Vici |
HempWillSaveTheWorld
User ID: 79118999 United States 05/04/2021 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many times has this video been posted on this site in the past week??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78862824 Keep buying into it retards. You are being played. Now they are whipping up the shortage stories and being pushed by resident propogandists. Something fucky going on... Foil hat on. Yes, my thread was pined a week ago (same vid). The outcome of it was pretty eye opening. There doesn't seem to be much change in Canuck pricing, what was interesting was the huge discrepancy in State to State pricing. Or maybe it was region to region pricing, in the US. Nada change ($29.00 for a decent sheet of ply) in Upstate NY, upwards of $99.00 for the same product elsewhere. There doesn't seem to be a shortage, just people in many places being short changed. Maybe Interstate commerce has been 'covided'? Climate change tarrifs for cutting down trees HempWillSaveTheWorld Vi Veri Vniversum Vivus Vici |
Tree of Life
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OU8122
User ID: 79553795 United States 05/04/2021 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (((Speculators))) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70056665 Full stop. Start with BlackRock. They have NO right to invest in single family homes. They have every right. As well as you and I. Blackstone was buying up during the foreclosure crisis back in 2013. And they had a right too.. There is some tie to blackrock, but that is not it.. Black rock has to show increasing profit year over year, what's one way to do that in the property management industry other than raising rental prices? OU8122 |
Saint Lance the Odd from BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada 05/04/2021 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are so many clearcuts now where I live, good luck 'bugging out' to the woods!!! Quoting: Tree of Life Guess you'll have to move to BC. BC is larger the WA, OR, CA and half of Idaho put together...plenty of woods to bug out to. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Windsage
User ID: 79526427 United States 05/04/2021 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in far north Idaho. I am surrounded by forest for a hundred miles in all directions. There is a lumber mill 15 minutes south of me and another one 15 minutes north. I know people that work at these mills. The mills are operating at full capacity. Logging trucks are on the highways at regular levels. Meanwhile, the local building supply store on the edge of town has barely any lumber in it, and prices have tripled and quadrupled since last fall. The mill workers can't figure this out, either. |
Gelatinous Mass
User ID: 80084301 United States 05/04/2021 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I lived in West Africa for two years. During this time, there were Chinese businessmen who ran side gigs shipping huge sections of tree trunks back to China. Straight up, they would park a shipping container and have the wood sections loaded, bugs, bark and all. The containers would be driven to port facilities in Monrovia, Liberia and Freetown, Sierra Leone and put on a ship home. There, they would be sold for large sums of money. |
Gelatinous Mass
User ID: 80084301 United States 05/04/2021 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I live in far north Idaho. I am surrounded by forest for a hundred miles in all directions. There is a lumber mill 15 minutes south of me and another one 15 minutes north. I know people that work at these mills. Quoting: Windsage The mills are operating at full capacity. Logging trucks are on the highways at regular levels. Meanwhile, the local building supply store on the edge of town has barely any lumber in it, and prices have tripled and quadrupled since last fall. The mill workers can't figure this out, either. I wonder how much is being EXPORTED? Are the Chins going through a massive building surge? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80314711 United States 05/04/2021 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder how much is being EXPORTED? Quoting: Gelatinous Mass Are the Chins going through a massive building surge? This is one crime which is occurring inside of our own borders. This is speculators and others involved in slowing down the supply and ability to buy thus raising the prices to help greedy parties. |
Tree of Life
User ID: 69690331 Canada 05/04/2021 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are so many clearcuts now where I live, good luck 'bugging out' to the woods!!! Quoting: Tree of Life Guess you'll have to move to BC. BC is larger the WA, OR, CA and half of Idaho put together...plenty of woods to bug out to. Yes, it would be easy to sneak across the border up by Bonner's Ferry where it is solid forest for miles and miles. Being a forester, they might even give me a job! But, the covid squad would catch me eventually, and give me the shot that makes men gaye and women bleed to death... so a hard pass on that one, Lance. I wish I could go back up to the many hot springs I used to visit there in Western Canada... good times!!! "All you may know of heaven or hell is within your own self." - Edgar Cayce |
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shovelbum
User ID: 53421710 United States 05/04/2021 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those pics don't show all that much lumber. I have worked at a busy retail lumberyard. In those pics I see enough lumber to fully stock 3 busy lumber yards. A lumber yard will contain (partial list): 2x4-8 studs; 20 bundles 2x4-8 premium studs; 10 bundles 2x4-9 studs; 10 bundles 2x4-10 studs; 10 bundles 2x6-8 studs; 8 bundles 2x6-9 studs; 8 bundles 2x6-10 studs; 8 bundles 2x4-8,10,12,14,16 spruce; 5 to 8 bundles each 2x6-8,10,12,14,16,18,20 spruce; 5 to 8 bundles each 2x6-8,10,12,14,16,18,20 yp ; 5 to 8 bundles each 2x8-8,10,12,14,16,18,20 yp; 5 to 8 bundles each 2x10-8,10,12,14,16,18,20 yp; 5 to 8 bundles each 2x12-8,10,12,+4,16,18,20 yp; 5 to 8 bundles each Everything above in treated also Several bundles each of 20 types of plywood 40 bundles plus of a few types of OSB A dozen bundles of 20'+ fir What I've listed represents at best 75% of the lumber found in a single busy retail lumber yard. If your notion of a lumberyard is Lowes or Home Depot you have no idea. A builder's lumberyard sells more lumber before they open Monday morning than home depot sells all week. 6 to 10 semi trucks a day in lumber. |
California dream User ID: 80315095 United States 05/04/2021 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Listed our pile of sticks today for 795,000. We have a cool 250 in the place. Looking to clear a clean half million dollars. I will wait for the right Californian to bounce along, I will snag him like a steelhead in the snake river. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80315452 United States 05/04/2021 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been hearing that the prices have gone up so much, that Building companies are either renegotiating building prices, or walking away. Quoting: Edmontonian Renegotiating prices sometimes 3-4 times as the price just keeps going up, and orders going unfilled. Members of my family own a building business. My grandson said he quotes a price to build a home for a client, and two weeks later, the prices go up. Spoke to a construction supervisor recently for single family home builds and remodels. Said due to almost daily price increases, the prices he quotes to clients are valid for two days only.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72680679 United States 05/04/2021 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How to create a housing bubble: 1. Railroad company is just too busy to get these customers worked into their schedule. 2. Contractors can't seem to find laborers for some reason (aka: free govt covid unemployment money) 3. Housing prices double with lumber supply vs demand. 4. Banks can't stay in business if they don't continually loan money to someone. 5. Housing prices inflate to 25% to 50% or more of what the houses are actually worth. 6. Banks that refuse to loan money to customers for inflated housing prices either go out of business as they fight off their competition that is, or start giving loans for housing with outrageous markups. 7. BOOM... Artificial Housing Bubble 8. Govt blames COVID. 9. Then when the economy dips just a tiny bit, (govt blames covid) people can't pay their loans and... boom... wave of repo's sweep the nation and banks get rich... until nobody can buy the houses back from them and they start crashing like dominos. |
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Rufus Juice
User ID: 77413848 United States 05/04/2021 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Biden continues to pay more and more people to stay home than to work..... its a simple formula, starve the system = socialism when the government "saves" everyone later. bums at home get that knock ~ now you work for the wood distribution ministry, go to work or die. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace" Jimi Hendrix |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78220685 United States 05/04/2021 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (((Speculators))) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70056665 Full stop. Start with BlackRock. They have NO right to invest in single family homes. They have every right. As well as you and I. Blackstone was buying up during the foreclosure crisis back in 2013. And they had a right too.. There is some tie to blackrock, but that is not it.. They are pricing out all first time home buyers such as myself. I wanted to spend $350k on a home last year. Same home is now $450k. $100k in one year is more than my entire income after tax. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62816461 United States 05/04/2021 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Weyerhaeuser, West Fraser, Georgia-Pacific, Sierra Pacific, Interfor and Hampton own more land than anyone else in America. These companies are running prices up to make as much as they can and make the business look as good as it can for the imminent sale out to China. China will own America. |