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Christians, do you have the true gospel message?

 
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Christians and all religious believers are mentally-ill.
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Keep a Bible nearby neighbor.

In the coming days, The mystery will become too transparent to deny.

But remember this…

call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.

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God bless.

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The HS is the comforter
Jesus is the mediator
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"We have a Comforter with the Father... Jesus Christ" 1 Jn 2:1

"I will not leave you comfortless I will come to you" John 14:18

"At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you." John 14:20

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Christians and all religious believers are mentally-ill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80320974


Keep a Bible nearby neighbor.

In the coming days, The mystery will become too transparent to deny.

But remember this…

call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.

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God bless.

Peace,
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Call in the day of trouble? I think I'm this case if there is a God hell be like " I DID NOT KNOW YOU! YAHUSHUA is not coming back as a lamb.... remember that
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Christians and all religious believers are mentally-ill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80320974


Keep a Bible nearby neighbor.

In the coming days, The mystery will become too transparent to deny.

But remember this…

call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.

[link to godsview.net]

God bless.

Peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Call in the day of trouble? I think I'm this case if there is a God hell be like " I DID NOT KNOW YOU! YAHUSHUA is not coming back as a lamb.... remember that
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Yes.. Multitudes in the valley of decision.

But also, great multitude wearing white robes come out of great tribulation.

He is merciful, even during judgment.

Peace,
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The confusion people are having about the harvest (rapture) is that they think the "great tribulation" is some event in the future.

The "great tribulation" has been going on for the last 1900 years, and has intensified with the development of technology.

Look at the Book of Revelation and what it says about those who came out of the great tribulation:

Revelation 7
9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;
10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb."
11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God,
12 saying, "Amen, blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might, be to our God forever and ever. Amen."
13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, "These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?"
14 I said to him, "My lord, you know." And he said to me, "These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 "For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.
16 "They will hunger no longer, nor thirst anymore; nor will the sun beat down on them, nor any heat;
17 for the Lamb in the center of the throne will be their shepherd, and will guide them to springs of the water of life; and God will wipe every tear from their eyes."


First: They were a great multitude from every tribe, nation, and tongue. They are all the Christians during the the last 2,000 years. There are some nations and tribes from 1,000 years ago that are no longer even on the earth, but they will be resurrected at the last day.

Second: They are holding palm branches. This is just like when Israel received Jesus the first time, but it will be the whole world this time at His return.

Third: They have been persecuted by the world for following Jesus. They were deprived many things for holding to the faith and went hungry, cast out of communities, enduring hardship for the testimony they have held.

This is what Christianity has endured for most of the last 2,000 years. Yes, today is pretty comfy, but that is only because the persecution has gone covert. True Christians are still quite troubled for their faith today.
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You are the one who is confused.

You don't even know Jesus. You've never met him. Trin.
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Re: Christians, do you have the true gospel message?
Can I ask the best version of the bible to get started on?

And where to start? Meaning which book of the bible.

I am a believer, but I know I need to do better and follow the true gospel. I've been pretty shit. And I think I need to start with understanding his true word myself.
 Quoting: Deanis

A good one but not perfect.
There's no "perfect" version of the Bible.

1611 King James Red Letter Edition

It has what Jesus says in Red Letters

You can find a free PDF version online.

This post has a link to one too.

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Romans 10
9Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12For there is no distinction between !ew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
 Quoting: REaliZe


You obviously missed chapter 6 whick explains how you get "into Christ"

and received "newness of life". If chapter 10 says one thing what chapter 6 says is no less important. If you have newness of life already, how do you then get it again?
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Get the electric version as your research will involve taking a lot of phrases from Revelation and seeing what the other references add to the picture. 'Day of the Lord' will net you just about 30 references that all come from long passages. If the return interests you, that is the best way to start.

Zep:2:2-3:
Before the decree bring forth,
before the day pass as the chaff,
before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you,
before the day of the LORD's anger come upon you.
Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth,
which have wrought his judgment;
seek righteousness,
seek meekness:
it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD's anger.
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Can I ask the best version of the bible to get started on?

And where to start? Meaning which book of the bible.

I am a believer, but I know I need to do better and follow the true gospel. I've been pretty shit. And I think I need to start with understanding his true word myself.
 Quoting: Deanis

A good one but not perfect.
There's no "perfect" version of the Bible.

1611 King James Red Letter Edition

It has what Jesus says in Red Letters

You can find a free PDF version online.

This post has a link to one too.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Don't take anything this cockroach says seriously.
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Don't take anything this cockroach says seriously.
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As if YOU are the "designated interpretor"
of scripture...instead of what the Bible actually SAYS?

bonghit sockpuppet
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Re: Christians, do you have the true gospel message?
Can I ask the best version of the bible to get started on?

And where to start? Meaning which book of the bible.

I am a believer, but I know I need to do better and follow the true gospel. I've been pretty shit. And I think I need to start with understanding his true word myself.
 Quoting: Deanis

A good one but not perfect.
There's no "perfect" version of the Bible.

1611 King James Red Letter Edition

It has what Jesus says in Red Letters

You can find a free PDF version online.

This post has a link to one too.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Don't take anything this cockroach says seriously.
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yeah, why should anyone limit Christianity to only what
Christ said when any Tom, dick and Harry wants to get into the acts (pun intended) and make up their own shit as at least coequal, even if contradictory?
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If God cares about something so petty then he really isn't all that loving and caring.

The truth is he likely doesn't care which book you read from. He gave you free will so intent is the factor.

If you deliberately turn your back on him and follow false gospels to spite him. That is intent.


Merely being born into the wrong family following the wrong gospel believing it's correct isn't enough to send you to hell I'm sorry. If it were then God doesn't care about you.

It's impossible to know one is correct with the amount of deception happening.

I'm confident of that.

It simply doesn't make sense that an all loving and caring God could sacrifice your soul to win a bet so it has to be more than that.

But if it is indeed us being played as pawns to win a bet? What does it matter at that point?

That is my synopsis. If God cares then he would understand and you being deceived won't be a factor.
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Can I ask the best version of the bible to get started on?
And where to start? Meaning which book of the bible.
I am a believer, but I know I need to do better and follow the true gospel. I've been pretty shit. And I think I need to start with understanding his true word myself.
 Quoting: Deanis

A good one but not perfect.
There's no "perfect" version of the Bible.

1611 King James Red Letter Edition

It has what Jesus says in Red Letters

You can find a free PDF version online.

This post has a link to one too.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Don't take anything this cockroach says seriously.
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Of course you say that - because you
have a PROBLEM believing what Jesus says.
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yeah, why should anyone limit Christianity to only what
Christ said when any Tom, dick and Harry wants to get into the acts (pun intended) and make up their own shit as at least coequal, even if contradictory?
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Exactly. It's easy to do.

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Can I ask the best version of the bible to get started on?
And where to start? Meaning which book of the bible.
I am a believer, but I know I need to do better and follow the true gospel. I've been pretty shit. And I think I need to start with understanding his true word myself.
 Quoting: Deanis

A good one but not perfect.
There's no "perfect" version of the Bible.

1611 King James Red Letter Edition

It has what Jesus says in Red Letters

You can find a free PDF version online.

This post has a link to one too.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Don't take anything this cockroach says seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75295036

Of course you say that - because you
have a PROBLEM believing what Jesus says.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


You don't even believe Jesus is God. Nothing you say is true. You're the last person I would learn about Jesus from.
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Proverbs 12:22 — “The Lord detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy” — and in Proverbs 25:1: “Telling lies about others is as harmful as hitting them with an ax, wounding them with a sword, or shooting them with a sharp arrow





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Hellfire and brimstone
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Of course you say that - because you
have a PROBLEM believing what Jesus says.
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You don't even believe Jesus is God. Nothing you say is true. You're the last person I would learn about Jesus from.
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Like I said - YOU don't believe what Jesis SAID

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE.
The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,
I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Where does Jesus say say this phrase - "I am God"?
Where does an Apostle say this phrase - "Jesus is God"?

They don't. WHY??? Jesus told us - and the Father TOLD us.

The Father said "I am God".

Isaiah 46:9 - Remember the former things of old:

for I am God, and there is none else;

I am God, and there is none like me,


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Three "persons" make up the ONE GODHEAD.

Who is GOD?

The Father, Son and Holy Ghost. PERIOD.

Is Jesus GOD? yes
Is the Father GOD? yes
Is the Holy Spirit GOD? yes

The Bible makes the TRIUNE NATURE of God
crystal clear, but in the NATURAL
we CANNOT comprehend it.
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Jesus said the Father is God.

The trinity doesn't exist in Biblical scripture, and the concept didn't exist in the first 50 - 100+ years of post-Apostolic teaching.

The first of the early church fathers to be recorded using the word "Trinity" was Theophilus of Antioch writing in the late 2nd century.

He defines the Trinity as God, His Word (Logos) and His Wisdom (Sophia) in the context of a discussion of the first three days of creation, following the early Christian practice of identifying the Holy Spirit as the Wisdom of God.

The first defense of the doctrine of the Trinity was in the early 3rd century by the early church father Tertullian. He explicitly defined the Trinity as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and defended his theology against "Praxeas",[47] though he noted that the majority of the believers in his day found issue with his doctrine.


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Of course you say that - because you
have a PROBLEM believing what Jesus says.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

You don't even believe Jesus is God. Nothing you say is true. You're the last person I would learn about Jesus from.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44594998

Like I said - YOU don't believe what Jesis SAID

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE.
The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,
I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Where does Jesus say say this phrase - "I am God"?
Where does an Apostle say this phrase - "Jesus is God"?

They don't. WHY??? Jesus told us - and the Father TOLD us.

The Father said "I am God".

Isaiah 46:9 - Remember the former things of old:

for I am God, and there is none else;

I am God, and there is none like me,

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Jesus was worshipped and did not disapprove.

Peace,
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Like I said - YOU don't believe what Jesis SAID

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE.
The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,
I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Where does Jesus say say this phrase - "I am God"?
Where does an Apostle say this phrase - "Jesus is God"?

They don't. WHY??? Jesus told us - and the Father TOLD us.

The Father said "I am God".

Isaiah 46:9 - Remember the former things of old:

for I am God, and there is none else;

I am God, and there is none like me,

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Jesus was worshipped and did not disapprove.

Peace,
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Jesus is the SON OF God.
Jesus said He is to be "honoured".
Did Jesus say "worship me / pray to Me"?
NOPE.

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Like I said - YOU don't believe what Jesis SAID

Jesus has a God - the Father. It's NOT Himself.
Does God have a god? NOPE.
The SON OF God has a God.


John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren, and say unto them,
I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.


....

Where does Jesus say say this phrase - "I am God"?
Where does an Apostle say this phrase - "Jesus is God"?

They don't. WHY??? Jesus told us - and the Father TOLD us.

The Father said "I am God".

Isaiah 46:9 - Remember the former things of old:

for I am God, and there is none else;

I am God, and there is none like me,

 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


Jesus was worshipped and did not disapprove.

Peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479

Jesus is the SON OF God.
Jesus said He is to be "honoured".
Did Jesus say "worship me / pray to Me"?
NOPE.

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Thou shall have no other Gods before me.

Peace,
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And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

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Indeed, Lord… some doubt to this very day.

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It is foolishness to deny the deity of Christ. He was all God and all man.

Both of these attributes, in addition to His work of the cross, give Him authority to judge humanity with perfect justice.

He is the son of man (son of Adam) and the son of God. Anyone who does not understand this is not sound in the faith.
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Would be nice to hear about other 700 books from the bible that Vatican has been hoarding
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It is foolishness to deny the deity of Christ. He was all God and all man.
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Numbers 23:19

God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?


you and the Bible cannot be both right, choose wisely.
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Picking single texts from the Old Testament for New Covenant doctrine is not "rightly handling the word of truth."

God's word reconciles beautifully, but it matters not if someone doesn't have ears to hear.
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It is foolishness to deny the deity of Christ.
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You also deny Christ so that makes you a fool as well.

2 Cor 3:16-4:5
the veil is removed in Christ.
whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
the Lord is the Spirit.
we preach Jesus Christ as Lord,"

You don't believe Jesus is the Lord who is the Spirit. That's because you believe in "the trinity" and "the third person" which are false idols.
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And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

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Indeed, Lord… some doubt to this very day.
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So...God GAVE God power?
NOPE.

God gave the SON OF God power.

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