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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80917604 United States 10/30/2021 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Jesus is NOT The Holy Spirit / Holy Ghost / Spirit of God - NOR is it His Own Spirit - Bible Study "Holy Spirit Jesus impregnated Mary with Himself"? "Holy Spirit God Jesus spoke from heaven...??? ...then Holy Spirit Jesus landed on his own shoulder...??? ...filled himself WITH himslef...??? ...then LED himself into the wilderness"??? "Holy Spirit Jesus danced on the heads of His disciples"??? So...have you prayed to the Holy Spirit Flaming Sword God Jesus today??? Ohhhh, for crying out loud. Not this ^^^ clown... AGAIN. And talk about a straw man "argument"... lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76030778 Canada 10/30/2021 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Eph 2:22 You are being made into a place where God lives through the Spirit. John 14:23 Jesus answered, and said to him, If any man loveth me, he shall keep my word; and my Father shall love him, and we shall come to him, and we shall dwell with him |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76030778 Canada 10/30/2021 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John 10:1 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber. John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Ecclesiastes 11:5 As thou knowest not what is the way of the Spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all. 1 John 5:6 And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80917604 United States 10/30/2021 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one." 1st John 5:7 God doesn't look like three people to me. All men are the sons of God until they sin. Then they begin to become sons of Satan. Jesus? I don't know because I've never met him, but he thinks like a son of God. The Holy Spirit. That's a big mystery. I've never found a loving woman, so I never even got close. In my dreams, the Holy Spirit follows me at a distance, runs a sort of parallel course. I wouldn't have it any other way because I'm at war and sometimes attacked by surprise, and I walk in dark and dangerous places. I'm the prodigal son, and my story is barely known and mostly concealed in the bible. I'm nothing more than an ordinary man, but I live as God intended for all men to live, spiritually speaking - not at all materially so in the world which is enemy territory. I am not under God's orders, nor would he presume to command me. Nevertheless, God and I are alike in spirit, so he trusts me, and he knows I like to work with him. He knows I love creation and I will continue to work with it and even suffer in it. So what? I can even enjoy war, though I detest it, and I know it is pointless. I once expressed my understanding as this: people seemed to be lost and looking for God, but I was moving in the opposite direction - coming from God and looking for people. God knows me. He knows He couldn't give me a mission I would reliably complete. I am too easily sidetracked. I am always willing to be diverted from what I am doing to investigate just about anything. I could be on my way to pick up a girl for a date and come across a street fight I need to stop. I think of the Holy Spirit as bits and pieces of good spirits that I see in people. If I saw the most deplorable looking gangster fighting for the life of his son, for a time, I would see the holy spirit of a father in him, and I would feel compelled to help him. At other times, I might see an evangelist saying he was filled with the holy spirit, but I see only a spirit of delusion. There is seldom anyone who shows all the qualities of the holy spirit all the time. As Jesus said: it comes and goes like the wind, and no one knows when or why. I think it's a little more complicated than that, involving deep psychology, circumstances, etc. But since you seldom have time to sift a person's entire character, you honor the spirit when it shows and don't make a fuss when it departs. Ideally, it is the most genuine and appropriate spirit for human beings. The Bible lists the qualities of the Holy Spirit and shows them in action in various ways through various characters, who nevertheless weren't perfect, but flawed. God possesses the qualities of The Holy Spirit, but not as another person in himself. It's like the difference between saying God is loving and God is love. God is much more than love, but loving is one of His qualities. A person could have all the qualities of the Holy Spirit as much as God, and yet, not be as wise or intelligent. Two people can be equally happy, but the happiness does not belong primarily to one or the other. Jesus said he always did only God's will. I have my own will, but I seek to make music with God's will. I move in and out of harmony with God's will. It is permissible, and it reaches for a kind of ideal. Why would God bother to create us if He didn't want something different and new. Something unexpected. You really are confused. Leave it to you, and those like you, to take a very simple truth and turn it into a convoluted nightmare. "God is not the author of confusion". But we all know who IS. |
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User ID: 64554050 United States 10/30/2021 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The title Christ comes from Greek alone. Jesus was no Greek either. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75807226 From the Greek word - means "annointed" [link to www.blueletterbible.org (secure)] Which is the SAME as "Messiah" from Daniel 9:25-26. [link to www.blueletterbible.org (secure)] .... Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study Thread: Father God is the "I AM' / God Almighty / Jehovah in Exodus. Not Jesus. Bible Study Scriptural Proof. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80372371 Canada 10/30/2021 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The New Testament warns that there are wrong gospels being preached. It also warns that the wrong Jesus is being preached. The true gospel message can be distilled into three fundamental components: Believe, repent, and follow Jesus. Quoting: Ears To Hear The video below clearly, and simply teaches what those fundamental components mean: The gospel message is cognitive. You hear it with your ears, understand it with your mind, and believe it with all your heart. Reject anything that goes against it as you walk out your faith according to His word. The apostasy, or falling away from sound faith, prophesied in the Bible by Paul is now complete. There are no formal gatherings outside of small family households. If there is an organization claiming to represent God today, they are lying. It is the antichrist's kingdom pretending to represent God so they can trap anyone who would follow Jesus and keep them under control until they are counted a foolish Christian at Christ's return and then they would have to go through the hour of testing where the anticrhist's kingdom is unrestrained. The wise Christians who have avoided their schemes will be harvested and attend the marriage supper of the Lamb. The word of God is very, very important in these last moments before Christ's return. Why? Because the Bible teaches that God, Himself, sends a strong delusion upon the world because people did not love the truth. The word of God is that truth, and it has wonderful knowledge that will train you in righteousness and give you promises to hold fast by faith as God delivers, protects, provides, and fights for you. There are a lot of bad translations out there, but the (NASB) New American Standard Bible is a solid translation. Understanding these important points, I will now show you exactly what it means to be a Christian: Christianity, after all, isn't something we do, it's something God does inside us, and through us when we follow Jesus' simple teachings on the gospel. So what did Jesus teach? Well, he used agricultural metaphors a lot because true Christianity is organic growth. What does a plant need to grow and flourish? - seed - water - food - light Did Jesus equate these things with Christian practices? He sure did. The Gospel Message = Seed (Matt. 13:1-9) Faith = water (John 7:38) Food = the word of God (Matt. 4:4) Light = having a humble, repentant, teachable attitude as we all come across Biblical truth which outshines the current state of being of our soul (1 John 1:6-7). Have you ever seen a plant that grew properly when lacking any one of those components above? If it grows at all, it grows all wonky and weird. It certainly won't be healthy. Christians need all of those components regularly to grow big and strong in the Lord. A balanced Christian organic life would look like this: - Understanding the true gospel message. - Exercising your faith through regular prayer, trusting God's word when making decisions in life, and leaning on His grace when we are weak or faltering - Eating true food by reading the word of God regularly and getting sound doctrine from true teachers - Remaining humble and teachable as we walk out our faith and see how high God's standard is for us In regards to prayer: Beware of outlandish dreams, visions, or "revelations" that come into your mind. These are the lying signs and wonders Jesus warned would come at the end. God stopped speaking directly to humanity when the New Testament was completed. And thank God for being merciful to His children. It's now very easy to tell whether a dream, vision, or revelation is of God or not. It's not! And this, my friend, is coming from someone who has had some of the most incredible "experiences" of visions and dreams and lying prophetic utterances you could imagine. Thank You, Jesus for saving me from the lies of Satan! Paul also teaches that "watering" is teaching people sound doctrine, like what this teaching does here. By God's grace I'm watering all the Christians who are going to pass by this thread. And let us never forget, it is God who gives the growth. I also recommend sharply limiting exposure to mass media, as it is a trick of the devil to confuse and control Christians and distract them from the power of doing things God's way. It's perception then interpretation sprinkled with traditional dysfunction. Get it? |
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User ID: 64554050 United States 10/30/2021 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humor me and watch this. Quoting: anonShines[link to www.youtube.com (secure)] If you watch it and have questions, comments, rebukes, I would love to hear them. I made it to the 5 minute point and had to stop. Conclusive? Not hardly. Dude focuses on John 14:16 ONLY, which ignores other "witness" passages. 1. The Holy Spirit's actions just after Jesus' Baptism. Luke 3:22 - And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. Luk 4:1 - And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, ... 2. Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as he several times. John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 - He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. ... I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80917604 United States 10/30/2021 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Each of the 9,000 so-called "Christian" denominations say they preach the true gospel, the rest are false. Comedy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80684446 You believe the largest religion in the world (catholicism) is the true religion? Lol... the largest cult in the world cannot be the true religion. The Roman Papacy is the Mother of Harlots. All of the "denominations" that came out of the Mother are the harlot daughters of the Mother Harlot. They still teach elements of her false doctrines and Babylonian holidays and traditions. That is the truth. People can take it or leave it. Makes no difference to me. |
Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 64554050 United States 10/30/2021 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moses said God would SEND someone in the future. God SENT His SON. Thread: The 10 Commandments Are Still Valid - They Define Major Sins AND Show How to Love God - Bible Study Thread: ONE Gospel - FROM God - THRU Jesus - Taught by ALL of the Apostles - NOT Just Paul - Bible Study Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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User ID: 64554050 United States 10/30/2021 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 3:16 John answered them all, saying, “I baptize you with water, but he who is mightier than I is coming, He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. In other words, Jesus will "baptise you WITH the Holy Spirit" WHO was SENT on Pentecost? It wasn't "Holy Spirit Jesus" I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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User ID: 64554050 United States 10/30/2021 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humor me and watch this. Quoting: anonShines[link to www.youtube.com (secure)] If you watch it and have questions, comments, rebukes, I would love to hear them. I made it to the 5 minute point and had to stop. Conclusive? Not hardly. Dude focuses on John 14:16 ONLY, which ignores other "witness" passages. 1. The Holy Spirit's actions just after Jesus' Baptism. Luke 3:22 - And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. Luk 4:1 - And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, ... 2. Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as he several times. John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 - He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. ... I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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User ID: 64554050 United States 10/30/2021 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3. John the Baptist says... Luke 3:16 John answered them all, saying, “I baptize you with water, but he who is mightier than I is coming, He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. In other words, Jesus will "baptise you WITH the Holy Spirit" - Not "his OWN spirit" - Not "his spirit" - Not "with himself" ... I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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User ID: 64554050 United States 10/30/2021 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4. Matthew 12 Jesus speaking about blasphemy. (NOT about Himself NOR his own 'spirit') 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76030778 Canada 10/30/2021 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4. Matthew 12 Jesus speaking about blasphemy. (NOT about Himself NOR his own 'spirit') Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD Liar.. Acts 16:7 the Spirit of Jesus Romans 8:9 the Spirit of Christ Galatians 4:6 the Spirit of his Son 1 Peter 1:11 the Spirit of Christ Philippians 1:19 the Spirit of Jesus Christ Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Acts 5:3-4 3 But Peter said: Ananias, why hath Satan tempted thy heart, that thou shouldst lie to the Holy Ghost, and by fraud keep part of the price of the land? 4 Whilst it remained, did it not remain to thee? and after it was sold, was it not in thy power? Why hast thou conceived this thing in thy heart? Thou hast not lied to men, but to God. Mark 3:28-30 “Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— because they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.” Luke 12:10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him. Ephesians 1:20-21 20 he exerted when he raised Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, 21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. Matt 12:31-32 31Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the one to come. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76030778 Canada 10/30/2021 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ezekiel 37:14 I will put My Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken, and I will do it, declares the LORD. 1 Cor 15:45 Christ—is a life-giving Spirit. Romans 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. Colossians 1:27 Christ in you, the hope of glory: Ephesians 4:4 one Spirit, one hope Ephesians 4:5 one Lord, 1 Cor 8:6 Jesus Christ is our only Lord. 2 Cor 3:17 the Lord is the Spirit |
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User ID: 80959736 10/30/2021 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its 3... in 1... three what?? distinct personalities, deities, beings, essences, figures, forms, modes, roles.... the list goes on.. then they try and repackage a strawman truth and call it "oneness" or "modelism" or "antitrinitarianism" trinitarians always use fallacious reasoning in debates. always. Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81070028 United States 10/30/2021 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Father is God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81070028 The Son is God. The Spirit is God. Three manifestations of the same One Infinite Unlimited God as expressed to finite and limited us. Why would any mere man protest as if he knows better? Has absolutely jack shit nothing to do with the Roman Men's Glee Club. |
Jungleboogie
User ID: 18564362 Canada 10/30/2021 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The New Testament warns that there are wrong gospels being preached. It also warns that the wrong Jesus is being preached. The true gospel message can be distilled into three fundamental components: Believe, repent, and follow Jesus. Quoting: Ears To Hear You can tell the fake Christians from a mile away. They call for bloodshed, war, hate, anger and misery. Many of them are right here on GLP sadly. Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
Jungleboogie
User ID: 18564362 Canada 10/31/2021 04:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The New Testament warns that there are wrong gospels being preached. It also warns that the wrong Jesus is being preached. The true gospel message can be distilled into three fundamental components: Believe, repent, and follow Jesus. Quoting: Ears To Hear You can tell the fake Christians from a mile away. They call for bloodshed, war, hate, anger and misery. Many of them are right here on GLP sadly. What, you aren't going to defend yourselves you warmongering idiots and murderers. Oh right, you're cowards too. Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
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Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 81074058 United States 10/31/2021 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4. Matthew 12 Jesus speaking about blasphemy. (NOT about Himself NOR his own 'spirit') Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD Acts 16:7 the Spirit of Jesus Romans 8:9 the Spirit of Christ Galatians 4:6 the Spirit of his Son 1 Peter 1:11 the Spirit of Christ .... Matthew 12 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. That Jesus speaking about blasphemy. (NOT about Himself NOR his own 'spirit') I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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User ID: 81074058 United States 10/31/2021 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 3:16 John answered them all, saying, “I baptize you with water, but he who is mightier than I is coming, He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. Your verse has NOTHING to do with baptism. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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User ID: 81074058 United States 10/31/2021 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4. Matthew 12 Jesus speaking about blasphemy. (NOT about Himself NOR his own 'spirit') Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD Acts 16:7 the Spirit of Jesus Romans 8:9 the Spirit of Christ Galatians 4:6 the Spirit of his Son 1 Peter 1:11 the Spirit of Christ .... Matthew 12 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. That is Jesus speaking about blasphemy. (NOT about Himself NOR his own 'spirit') I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |