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Makes sense to me.
Honestly I thought at the time she was just hinting at a gift she wanted from a Beltane festival, thanks for the confirmation lol.

Had not heard of the fruit tree part.

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The fruit tree part may be a personal thing, iirc (again) the same person was speaking on how they don't believe burning the runes in is appropriate due to the association with death of the object (wood). But then, what of using blood as ink? A creature that has died to provide the blood, I guess associates with death, but then doesn't cutting the fruit tree during a reproductive phase represent that?
Perhaps it depends on what you're doing with the runes, if blood and death is your focus versus life and rebirth versus neutral.

There are a lot of superstitions, right way, wrong way, etc. in all schools of magick. As I've spoken on; a lot of (if not most) things are tools to make things easier. Divination can be achieved in many ways, from cloud gazing, reading tea leaves, casting bones, to gematria, tarot, rune stones.

You could say that it doesn't matter the tool, it's how well you use it.
Unless you've got a big tool and use it really well of course. :P
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Agreed lol
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Here are a few of mine. Turn your head lol
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chuckle

Halloween oracle? Curious.
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Yes. I saw it online and figured why not :)
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Makes sense to me.
Honestly I thought at the time she was just hinting at a gift she wanted from a Beltane festival, thanks for the confirmation lol.

Had not heard of the fruit tree part.

solcheers
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The fruit tree part may be a personal thing, iirc (again) the same person was speaking on how they don't believe burning the runes in is appropriate due to the association with death of the object (wood). But then, what of using blood as ink? A creature that has died to provide the blood, I guess associates with death, but then doesn't cutting the fruit tree during a reproductive phase represent that?
Perhaps it depends on what you're doing with the runes, if blood and death is your focus versus life and rebirth versus neutral.

There are a lot of superstitions, right way, wrong way, etc. in all schools of magick. As I've spoken on; a lot of (if not most) things are tools to make things easier. Divination can be achieved in many ways, from cloud gazing, reading tea leaves, casting bones, to gematria, tarot, rune stones.

You could say that it doesn't matter the tool, it's how well you use it.
Unless you've got a big tool and use it really well of course. :P
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Yeah was wondering how that thought process would consider a set made from bone.
Less the "specific" way, and more into that intuitive guidance that leads to a unique creation.

And even with a big tool, still fun to add additional things to *ahem* shake things up. Vibrate at another frequency and all haha
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Here are a few of mine. Turn your head lol
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chuckle

Halloween oracle? Curious.
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Yes. I saw it online and figured why not :)
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Was curious of the imagery, had to Google.
Interesting looking deck, like that uniqueness

And of course doing so has me finding one pulling at me.

*gestures at above picture*

I've got enough!
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Here are a few of mine. Turn your head lol
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chuckle

Halloween oracle? Curious.
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Yes. I saw it online and figured why not :)
 Quoting: Green Witch


Was curious of the imagery, had to Google.
Interesting looking deck, like that uniqueness

And of course doing so has me finding one pulling at me.

*gestures at above picture*

I've got enough!
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It is addictive lol

The buying of new stuff XD
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lmao.
Coz reasons, probably.
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Yeah was wondering how that thought process would consider a set made from bone.
Less the "specific" way, and more into that intuitive guidance that leads to a unique creation.

And even with a big tool, still fun to add additional things to *ahem* shake things up. Vibrate at another frequency and all haha
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Intuitive guidance to unique creation; for sure. What is more "you" than something you created yourself for yourself in your own way?

As for the rest...

SimpleLad

Terrible lol, love it.
Coz reasons, probably.
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chuckle

Halloween oracle? Curious.
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Yes. I saw it online and figured why not :)
 Quoting: Green Witch


Was curious of the imagery, had to Google.
Interesting looking deck, like that uniqueness

And of course doing so has me finding one pulling at me.

*gestures at above picture*

I've got enough!
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It is addictive lol

The buying of new stuff XD
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Yeah but...new perspective...and purdy pictures...and...and...

*la sigh*
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Yeah was wondering how that thought process would consider a set made from bone.
Less the "specific" way, and more into that intuitive guidance that leads to a unique creation.

And even with a big tool, still fun to add additional things to *ahem* shake things up. Vibrate at another frequency and all haha
 Quoting: Sol-tari


Intuitive guidance to unique creation; for sure. What is more "you" than something you created yourself for yourself in your own way?

As for the rest...

SimpleLad

Terrible lol, love it.
 Quoting: Ty_


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Buyyyyy meeee!
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Buyyyyy meeee!
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Whats your going rate?
Milk for free.
$3.50
etc.

:D
Coz reasons, probably.
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Buyyyyy meeee!
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Whats your going rate?
Milk for free.
$3.50
etc.

:D
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No milk here. My dairy farm is out of business lol
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Buyyyyy meeee!
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Whats your going rate?
Milk for free.
$3.50
etc.

:D
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No milk here. My dairy farm is out of business lol
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Haha, by process of elimination you're stating your price is $3.50. Cool beans. I won't complain, but are you sure you're not underselling?
Coz reasons, probably.
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Buyyyyy meeee!
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Whats your going rate?
Milk for free.
$3.50
etc.

:D
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No milk here. My dairy farm is out of business lol
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Haha, by process of elimination you're stating your price is $3.50. Cool beans. I won't complain, but are you sure you're not underselling?
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wait... what.. huh? LOL
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Bad GW, bad!

spank

Was a(nother) dragon deck lol.
Didn't help the first card that popped up from it was the same illustration as the bag I'd carry my decks in while working in the shop.

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Whats your going rate?
Milk for free.
$3.50
etc.

:D
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No milk here. My dairy farm is out of business lol
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Haha, by process of elimination you're stating your price is $3.50. Cool beans. I won't complain, but are you sure you're not underselling?
 Quoting: Ty_


wait... what.. huh? LOL
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:D :D :D
Coz reasons, probably.
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No milk here. My dairy farm is out of business lol
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Haha, by process of elimination you're stating your price is $3.50. Cool beans. I won't complain, but are you sure you're not underselling?
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wait... what.. huh? LOL
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:D :D :D
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Have u got coffee to go with those smilie faces? Lol
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Bad GW, bad!

spank

Was a(nother) dragon deck lol.
Didn't help the first card that popped up from it was the same illustration as the bag I'd carry my decks in while working in the shop.

Bah
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chuckle
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Völva the Viking Witch or Seeress

A Völva or as it is pronounced in old Norse a V&#491;lva (in Danish a ”Vølve”), is what we in English would call a Seeress. You could compare it to someone who practiced shamanism or witchcraft. So a Völva is a Nordic version of a shaman or witch, that practiced magic. The Völva in the Viking age were the predecessors of the medieval witches, so you could say, they were witches before it became cool. A Völva is not something that just dates back to the Viking age, a Völva is, in fact, very ancient, and their roots go back more than 2.000 – 3.000 years. 50%<


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Völva the Viking Witch or Seeress

A Völva or as it is pronounced in old Norse a V&#491;lva (in Danish a ”Vølve”), is what we in English would call a Seeress. You could compare it to someone who practiced shamanism or witchcraft. So a Völva is a Nordic version of a shaman or witch, that practiced magic. The Völva in the Viking age were the predecessors of the medieval witches, so you could say, they were witches before it became cool. A Völva is not something that just dates back to the Viking age, a Völva is, in fact, very ancient, and their roots go back more than 2.000 – 3.000 years. 50%<


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https://imgur.com/a/c1GDdm7


I have a theory on the world Volve and the mistranslation through verbal exchange, or perhaps intentionally distorted. Remember that the church approved all the stories we have today and didn't like divine feminine, or females with power and status at all. We know the stories of the 'two wolves' that sit at Odins feet, Geri and Freki. What is less known is that Gerd and Frigg (some say this is Freya) are also depicted in certain images as sitting either side of Odins throne. There is some artwork showing these two Female Deities at the feet of Odin, exactly like others show the Wolves.
So assume that the spoken word is "Volve" was there a V sound in the Germanic? It's the W.
Now let's misapply pluralisation in using an "s" instead. Volves/Wolves. The names are quite similar.

Gerd = Geri
Frigg = Freki

Is it possible there was a mistranslation that was taken quite a way wrong, considering there is no equivalent outside of Norse/Germanic culture?
Is it possible the Church 'turned' these Goddesses in to wolves to more properly align the Norse stories with what they were overlapping with Christianity? (as sort of touched on recently).

Either way - these were back then and are today, powerful Goddesses.
But hey, they want wolves? Man and Woman alike; let's re-introduce ourselves.





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Nauthiz, now this, now these. The "Need-Fire". From S1-S4

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Very much that energy we get in times of great need or urgency. You could say a divine spark when speaking of primal truth, innovation, etc. But it is also related to creative friction, distress, resistance FOR growth and the result of coming forth in to being. In this way we could say it is the fire that tests and tempers, forging a stronger result.

I've seen this referred to as Not This, which to me has felt wrong and suggests a negative connotation that I can't support easily.

Back to the idea of the fire that tests and tempers and that energy we call on in times of great need. We can relate the two in that Nauthiz is forging us and building our inner strength. It makes us stronger and is stored deep within, so that when we Need that Fire it is there ready to flare up and help us. Without the testing, forging and tempering through friction, distress, resistance to our growth; what strength is built? What is called on?

We can perhaps relate more from other sources, such as baptism by fire and other trials that harden us to go on.
There may be a link to the fire that was stolen from the Gods here, yes knowledge - but also hardship that forces growth.
Not something I like, but is a truth. Adversity builds strength. A shame though that some people seek to hurt others under this guise.
Coz reasons, probably.
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huh? vulva was derived from Nordic witches? No wonder some men go crazy and hurt them...sounds like a universe they cannot access in their mind (present men non mentes reae):
mons pubis
labia majora
labia minora
vestibular bulbs
vulval vestibule
hymen
Bartholin's
Skene's

My house guest will be leaving in the next few weeks, he has been quite the magician:)

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huh? vulva was derived from Nordic witches? No wonder some men go crazy and hurt them...sounds like a universe they cannot access in their mind (present men non mentes reae):
mons pubis
labia majora
labia minora
vestibular bulbs
vulval vestibule
hymen
Bartholin's
Skene's

My house guest will be leaving in the next few weeks, he has been quite the magician:)

https://imgur.com/eqUs7Op

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Haha.

With the etymological points made here

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Proto-Indo-European root meaning "to turn, revolve," with derivatives referring to curved, enclosing objects.

It makes me think the word Volva is potentially, in part, referencing; turn, wind, twist, roll, revolve, net, etc. Maybe 'weaving'. Like the weavers of fates, the Maiden, Mother, Crone. Interestingly there's an evolution/derivative that references spiral, like golden ratio.

Here's some reading on the MANY names and terminology related:
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

"There is also the reconstructed word *vitka which may be connected to the Wecha in Gesta Danorum, book III and refer to a kind of sorceress. It seems to be the feminine form of vitki ("sorcerer"), and it is only attested from Lokasenna 24, where Loki accuses Odin of having travelled around the world vitka líki (in the "guise of a vitka")."

Vitka and Vitki is interesting.
Wicca?




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Lmao that is a good one!
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lol, it's an amusing scene cut from all but the earliest versions. There's another scene with them earlier in the movie, iirc they even state "*ewish Nazi Suicide Squad"

Ah, the things that we used to be able to get away with.
I do wish for the days where we could laugh at each others stuff without making it hateful.

Just the opinion of a pasty skinned, round eye, convict settler. *shrug*
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Indeed. Humor could seriously solve almost all of the worlds problems.
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Incooommmmiiiinnnng. Hagalaz, hail, crisis, disruption, radical change.

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Hagalaz is the rune of change. Typically radical or drastic change and/or corrections. Sometimes things change for worse or for better - sometimes both, and, sometimes quite radically.
Hagalaz can represent the seeds of something new being formed as well as an uncontrollable power - a natural chaotic power, like wild hail storms. It can be used to seed or be the catalyst, it can be destruction.

It is the first rune in Heimdall's AEtt. Heimdall the White, (historically an albino) he who sees all, guards bifrost and the one who will blow the horn that wakes the Gods before Ragnarok.

For better or worse, Hagalaz is:

Shit is going down.
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This one has heavy influence in my life....sooo how do I utilize it for positive change?
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NICE! those are very lovely:)
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Vitka and Vitki is interesting.
Wicca?




Catfriend poses well for pic :D
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I guess "to influence" is to bleeders (f) as "to conquer" is to the make-bleeders (m). However, making oneself bleed could be the primitive confusion, since there still remains menstrual magic without any scientific understanding in the 14thC.
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The cross reference point is a very good one. I'll start doing that from now on.

See and I didnt know that Tyr came before Odin. That is new to me. And I really liked your comparison of Odin to Jesus In one of your previous posts. That's an interesting connection.
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With such a large amount of information spread across space and time through so many cultural moves, migrations, mergers, splits and so forth; the cross reference and research in to corresponding deities is very important in finding the truth of things. It should always be more important in finding the similarities between peoples, rather than the differences.

Y'know, otherwise we'll spend another 1,000 years fighting amongst sects of the same core religion... *ahem*

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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Something very important to consider is that all the stories we have via Snorri were approved by the church. The originals even have a prayer in the front, iirc.

I'm of the opinion that Snorri was able to 'hide' some truth in them through use of metaphor and allegory that were overlooked by the church.

The comparison to Jesus with Odin is an interesting one, there are indeed artworks by nordic artists (at least one), depicting Jesus with a bird on his shoulder. Being a wandering wise man, his sayings, his sacrifice, pierced in the side by a spear, his return after, gift of knowledge to man, the Othela rune (often related to Odin, but is in fact inherited power, etc.) closely resembles the Jesus fish, which btw is a vesica piscis with the tail, turned on it's side. Lots more to say on that but it veers away from the topic.

Things get very interesting though, when we relate Tyr's hand to Jesus. Tyr's right hand, who sits at the right of God? Do you know why Fenrir was bound in the first place? Other Gods feared his potential, due to his parentage. Literally the sins of his Father.
You could, as I have related before, say that Tyr sent his Right to humanity(metaphorically; Fenrir and his great potential), where it was sacrificed. Whilst others sneakily bound humanity in fear of its fast growth, with things that don't exist. Illusion and deception.
I've explained that better elsewhere, but I think that's enough to get the idea across.

Here's an image that may make further sense to folks when including some of these things.

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]

The deity is in the details... :D Also, *waves to hidden hand folks*
 Quoting: Ty_

yes you are 100% correct. It does end up being the same at its core. That is an excellent point to keep in my mind when researching and discussing. The division will only cause negative growth and more of the same.


And I'll have to learn about tyr more, I've only read the Eddas once, and that was the interpretation of it by a historian. And yes I understand why fenrir was bound, that never sat well with me. To me fenrirs anger was justified by the betrayal and fear of the other gods. Fenrir needed direction not binds.

I like the comparison of man to fenrir. That's a good example.
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NICE! those are very lovely:)
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Thanks! I'm knee deep in reading today lol

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