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Is the CDC Intentionally fudging the numbers? American Thinker believes they are…

 
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Excellent thread. Now I know where the theory that “viruses don’t really exist” outside of the lab comes from. Compelling.
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Excellent thread. Now I know where the theory that “viruses don’t really exist” outside of the lab comes from. Compelling.
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They arent just fudging the numbers its far more evil than most know.
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Isn't Vaers a voluntary reporting system?
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you cant report a death if your dead
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I'd say the real death toll is at least in the tens of thousands, for now...
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That reflects the frail elderly most likely. Part of the "pandemic" was also to rid blue states of the elderly who were costing them so much money.

Yes. They intentionally and purposefully knocked off seniors to save money down the road. Nazi-like.

But the REAL issue is fertility.

[link to thesecondnews.com (secure)]

Autopsies of patient who died AFTER vaccination have shown significant levels of spike protein throughout the body - ESPECIALLY ovaries.

The effect won't be seen for years and will be impossible to trace. Really diabolical, and explains why they are so focused on vaccinating children when there is no real reason to - they are making it up knowingly and intentionally. Evil.
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Full scientific article

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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Thanks for posting.

Thinking it’s about time to begin taking action. Maybe a class action suit to start. At the very least, some of these more influential docs/scientists need to be heard by state legislators around the country. Allowed to present their evidence…seems to be working somewhat on the election fraud. Maybe will here as well.

All I can say as a tea leaf reader is that if we don’t soon, very soon, those promoting and/or administering this insanity might have a bit more to worry about than pissing their bosses off/losing their jobs for not sticking to the narrative.

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In order for any of this to be true, the virus must be real.
Found it. The perfect GLP quote


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Have been lying all the way. They have $$ stakes in the vaxxes so promote it. Fan the fear to make you get the poison so you will thin the heard in 2-3 years.
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It's funny when people "believe" things...and other morons just blindly accept it as truth. No expertise or education in the subjects...just "belief".

Pathetic.
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It's funny when people "believe" things...and other morons just blindly accept it as truth. No expertise or education in the subjects...just "belief".

Pathetic.
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Kind of like how people "believe" the so called "vaccines" are safe and effective because the media told them they are so they blindly accept it as truth. No expertise or education on the subject...just "belief".

Pathetic.
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pretty obvious when there is only 12 flu deaths a month in a population of 330mil
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In case you didn't notice, social distancing helped with ALL contagious viruses.

Next year there will be more flu deaths. Happy?
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It's funny when people "believe" things...and other morons just blindly accept it as truth. No expertise or education in the subjects...just "belief".

Pathetic.
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Kind of like how people "believe" the so called "vaccines" are safe and effective because the media told them they are so they blindly accept it as truth. No expertise or education on the subject...just "belief".

Pathetic.
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Why do you assume people learn about vaccines and virus from "the media"?!

I personally seek out expert opinions in such subjects, not "the media". That being said, what is the media misreporting?

They are vaccines, BY FUCKING DEFINITION! This whole "they aren't vaccines" is plain RETARDED!

The vaccines ARE "safe", but, as with ALL vaccines, individual physiology can determine if its safe for the individual. Yes, people will get sick or die (no where NEAR as many as the nuts want others to believe) from vaccines from time to time.

To trust in, and learn about, science...is not "blindly" following anything! But, listening to random morons on the internet without ANY care about their level of knowledge/education/expertise, to reject science, is morons blindly following morons, you stupid hypocrite!

For every claim you morons make, there are thousands of TRUE experts that reject such nonsense.

I'll stick with experts.
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When they control the people/organizations that report the numbers, and they control the website that posts the numbers.
What could possibly go wrong?
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The Government if famous for cooking the books with everything they do.
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What is the true number of vaccine-related deaths?
By Antonio R. Chaves

When VAERS death rates are compared with COVID-19 vaccination rates from December to June, an odd pattern emerges: Vaccine-related deaths decline just as vaccination rates reach their peak in April (Graph 1). This implies that the VAERS death rate started at 18 per 100,000 on the 1st of February, then dropped to around 3.1 per 100,000 on the 1st of June (Table). If this remarkable trend really took place, why didn’t it make headlines?…

 Quoting: SaveUSa


First, I'm not vaccinated, and I would never suggest that anyone who is not in a high risk group (sick, elderly) take an experimental drug to fight a flu.

But....neither am I stupid.

Why would the death rate be higher and decline as the vax became more widespread?

Uh...duh..because the high risk groups (sick, elderly) were the first people rushing out to get the drug.

As the drug started being given to healthy young people, of course the rate of vax death declined.

Try thinking once in a while.
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The flu, er I mean Covid, already wiped out most of the elderly and frail. Now here comes the "vax" to rid a bit more....just think how many it would have killed last year
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When they control the people/organizations that report the numbers, and they control the website that posts the numbers.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Says the paranoid chemtard who can't understand simple contrails.

I see.
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The Government if famous for cooking the books with everything they do.
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...according to paranoid losers who never seem to provide and substantial evidence to support their claims.
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Inflating the numbers of people infected by the plague and underreporting the ones who die after being saved by the newest and greatest meds.
WTHell would do that??
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The Government if famous for cooking the books with everything they do.
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...according to paranoid losers who never seem to provide and substantial evidence to support their claims.
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According to the Govt of Canada and World Health Organization, the only problems were caused by 'overcrowding' as a few inmates had to sleep in the gym on cots. I say they are lying and the mold and H2S are to blame.

Crowded cells and filthy conditions have been the hallmarks of the Baffin Island Correctional Centre in Iqaluit. But Nunavut's director of corrections says renovations and new facilities are helping improve conditions for inmates.
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When they control the people/organizations that report the numbers, and they control the website that posts the numbers.
What could possibly go wrong?
 Quoting: uscrusader1


Says the paranoid chemtard who can't understand simple contrails.

I see.
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Duncan and wife Kelli IRL the lib massholes, better turn on that IP switcher, you've had the same USRID for an hour.
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The entire American government is corrupted from the top down. America is the joke of the world and the (((media))) owns you all. Neighbours don't trust any neighbour. Everything is racist. The color people are taking over. Looks like American future is like South Africa.
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American Thinker 1rof1

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When they control the people/organizations that report the numbers, and they control the website that posts the numbers.
What could possibly go wrong?
 Quoting: uscrusader1


Says the paranoid chemtard who can't understand simple contrails.

I see.
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Duncan and wife Kelli IRL the lib massholes, better turn on that IP switcher, you've had the same USRID for an hour.
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clappa
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The Government if famous for cooking the books with everything they do.
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...according to paranoid losers who never seem to provide and substantial evidence to support their claims.
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So they count everything as a covid death,
Then they decide to count none of the deaths related to the vaccine do you feel like a full yet?
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So they count everything as a covid death,
Then they decide to count none of the deaths related to the vaccine do you feel like a full yet?
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So they count everything as a covid death,
Then they decide to count none of the deaths related to the vaccine. Do you feel like a fool yet? They know EXACTLY what they are doing. All part of the plan.
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It may sound callous but I'm not even concerned about the acute injuries (incl. death). As Democrats know, and have carefully planned, death is cheap.

I'm concerned about the chronic, long-term, disabling injuries that will be used to try to make the rest of us slaves to sheep who will no longer be able to work or even care for themselves.

Tough choices ahead.

BTW, each day that ticks by and these people get away with "it" only empowers them to go bigger next time. Once your DemocraticDeathCult goes into the 7 figures there's no reason to bump it into 8 or 9. Or go full Georgia Guidestones.
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CDC meeting on myocarditis in young people wrapped into their regular meeting June 23-34. Public meeting occuring 11-4 today. Does anyone here know anything about this?

[link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]
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Many here have suggested that the VAERS database is woefully inaccurate for a couple of good reasons. Primarily that only a small fraction of vaccine deaths and injuries are ever really reported there for a variety of reasons. One of the main reasons being the threats to anyone posting there with what the CDC might decide to be false information (even if it’s not).

That cloud is bad enough if we hope to have a transparent system, but when the CDC itself starts cooking the books to suit an agenda, it’s criminal.

[link to www.americanthinker.com (secure)]

What is the true number of vaccine-related deaths?
By Antonio R. Chaves

Based on official data from Open VAERS and the CDC, 5,993 Americans have died out of 146,171,792 Americans who are fully vaccinated as of June 11. This corresponds to a ratio of about four deaths out of 100,000 who are fully vaccinated.

When VAERS death rates are compared with COVID-19 vaccination rates from December to June, an odd pattern emerges: Vaccine-related deaths decline just as vaccination rates reach their peak in April (Graph 1). This implies that the VAERS death rate started at 18 per 100,000 on the 1st of February, then dropped to around 3.1 per 100,000 on the 1st of June (Table). If this remarkable trend really took place, why didn’t it make headlines?…

Read the rest at the link.
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I remember reading a couple years before COVID, right after trump won that all the Clinton folks were ending up at the CDC. I’ve searched far and wide and never been able to find again. Just throwing it out there.
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We had a friends brother get the shot, post on FB he had a 101.7 fever. Than pneumonia and death by heart attack within 4 days. Not Vax related at all. Just a heart attack. He was 48 and overworked. Nothing to see here folks.
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I will not take the vaccine and know the CDC is far from honest but on the deaths related to taking the vaccine I know of no one who has actually died and only a handful who have had any adverse health problems from taking it, none of which required hospitalization.

Does anyone reading this know someone who has peronally died or had to have been hospitalized?
 Quoting: Jim at the Path Across


I had 2 family members hospitalized for heart attacks within 2 weeks of the vaxxx.

One had 2 heart attacks.
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My brother in law, age 6o, got a flurry of clots, almost died but is an outdoors man and tough as steel, husbands cousin had to get vx at work, not in good health, had "heart attack" and spent week in hospital, many more had strong reactions.
All of the above Native Americans, our chiefs and councils are in trouble with us for going along with the Gvt. agenda for money for their schools etc. We can be poor again, we have told them, but independant and alive. Our girls and women up till 1964 were automatically sterilized without their knowledge or consent, so we've been and dont want that again....
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I will not take the vaccine and know the CDC is far from honest but on the deaths related to taking the vaccine I know of no one who has actually died and only a handful who have had any adverse health problems from taking it, none of which required hospitalization.

Does anyone reading this know someone who has peronally died or had to have been hospitalized?
 Quoting: Jim at the Path Across


I had 2 family members hospitalized for heart attacks within 2 weeks of the vaxxx.

One had 2 heart attacks.
 Quoting: T3OTWAWKI


My brother in law, age 6o, got a flurry of clots, almost died but is an outdoors man and tough as steel, husbands cousin had to get vx at work, not in good health, had "heart attack" and spent week in hospital, many more had strong reactions.
All of the above Native Americans, our chiefs and councils are in trouble with us for going along with the Gvt. agenda for money for their schools etc. We can be poor again, we have told them, but independant and alive. Our girls and women up till 1964 were automatically sterilized without their knowledge or consent, so we've been and dont want that again....
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Forgot to add this happened to any girl or woman under 45 who entered a hospital for any abdominal surgery like appendicitis, etc.
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