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West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
We live in Maine, we want out of Blue state hell.
We're looking to have enough land to grow food and animals. I've been looking mostly down the East side of the state not counting the handles.
What area am I going to see the ones that aren't going to wear masks and fight back on vaccine mandates?
A thriving local small farm area would be a perfect bonus.
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
We live in Maine, we want out of Blue state hell.
We're looking to have enough land to grow food and animals. I've been looking mostly down the East side of the state not counting the handles.
What area am I going to see the ones that aren't going to wear masks and fight back on vaccine mandates?
A thriving local small farm area would be a perfect bonus.
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If you are not kin to an existing clan in WV, then you will have almost no chance of integrating to hillbilly life.

Just telling it like it is.

WV is a very rural state .. people there are quite a bit different from any other place that I've been.

They handle their own shit with very little outside influence. Great people .. the BEST!

However, if you cannot prove genealogically that you belong there, good luck.

Prove your kin back 200 years and you may be accepted.
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
We live in Maine, we want out of Blue state hell.
We're looking to have enough land to grow food and animals. I've been looking mostly down the East side of the state not counting the handles.
What area am I going to see the ones that aren't going to wear masks and fight back on vaccine mandates?
A thriving local small farm area would be a perfect bonus.
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A better choice for a northeasterner would be southeast Ohio.

Red state. Rural area (SE Ohio). Hilly with good land.

Trump country.
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
WV here.

Tough call really.

We do have a lot of anti mandate folks here, we also have many elderly and unhealthy folks so medical industry is huge and big pharma has its hooks in deep.

Was surprised how many here and people I knew took the vax.
I really don’t know if our people here will do another mask mandate.
I think enough know it’s bullshit and we aren’t being quiet about how we feel anymore.

Huntington to Charleston and Morgantown to clarksburg areas are most developed. But 15 miles away it’s countryside. Parkersburg decent size too. But if you want away from as many people as possible look into southern counties along Hatfield McCoy trails if there is a revolt it’ll start there lol
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
We live in Maine, we want out of Blue state hell.
We're looking to have enough land to grow food and animals. I've been looking mostly down the East side of the state not counting the handles.
What area am I going to see the ones that aren't going to wear masks and fight back on vaccine mandates?
A thriving local small farm area would be a perfect bonus.
 Quoting: Feistylorax


If you are not kin to an existing clan in WV, then you will have almost no chance of integrating to hillbilly life.

Just telling it like it is.

WV is a very rural state .. people there are quite a bit different from any other place that I've been.

They handle their own shit with very little outside influence. Great people .. the BEST!

However, if you cannot prove genealogically that you belong there, good luck.

Prove your kin back 200 years and you may be accepted.
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I know that. I'm not looking to integrate. I'm looking to be up in the mountains and left alone.
I'm going there regardless of fitting in. I just want to know what area is best for it.
“Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.”
Dr. Seuss, The Lorax

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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
WV here.

Tough call really.

We do have a lot of anti mandate folks here, we also have many elderly and unhealthy folks so medical industry is huge and big pharma has its hooks in deep.

Was surprised how many here and people I knew took the vax.
I really don’t know if our people here will do another mask mandate.
I think enough know it’s bullshit and we aren’t being quiet about how we feel anymore.

Huntington to Charleston and Morgantown to clarksburg areas are most developed. But 15 miles away it’s countryside. Parkersburg decent size too. But if you want away from as many people as possible look into southern counties along Hatfield McCoy trails if there is a revolt it’ll start there lol
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so south of lewisburg to the west. There has been a few there I'm looking at.
What about the white sulfur springs area?
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
WV here.

Tough call really.

We do have a lot of anti mandate folks here, we also have many elderly and unhealthy folks so medical industry is huge and big pharma has its hooks in deep.

Was surprised how many here and people I knew took the vax.
I really don’t know if our people here will do another mask mandate.
I think enough know it’s bullshit and we aren’t being quiet about how we feel anymore.

Huntington to Charleston and Morgantown to clarksburg areas are most developed. But 15 miles away it’s countryside. Parkersburg decent size too. But if you want away from as many people as possible look into southern counties along Hatfield McCoy trails if there is a revolt it’ll start there lol
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so south of lewisburg to the west. There has been a few there I'm looking at.
What about the white sulfur springs area?
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
We live in Maine, we want out of Blue state hell.
We're looking to have enough land to grow food and animals. I've been looking mostly down the East side of the state not counting the handles.
What area am I going to see the ones that aren't going to wear masks and fight back on vaccine mandates?
A thriving local small farm area would be a perfect bonus.
 Quoting: Feistylorax


If you are not kin to an existing clan in WV, then you will have almost no chance of integrating to hillbilly life.

Just telling it like it is.

WV is a very rural state .. people there are quite a bit different from any other place that I've been.

They handle their own shit with very little outside influence. Great people .. the BEST!

However, if you cannot prove genealogically that you belong there, good luck.

Prove your kin back 200 years and you may be accepted.
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I know that. I'm not looking to integrate. I'm looking to be up in the mountains and left alone.
I'm going there regardless of fitting in. I just want to know what area is best for it.
 Quoting: Feistylorax


Neighbors (even up in the high mountains and more so) help each other. If you are an outsider with strange speech .. well, good luck with that.
I predict your soon departure ...
[Not trying to be mean, just real]

Everyone knows everyone else in small communities.
They know who their daddy was and their daddies daddy and so on. They know family connections, etc.

Limited roads easily become blocked in storms and floods.
It's why you DO need to integrate.

Tough move to eastern WV .. you might try the other side of the mountains in VA. The adjacent counties may switch over to WV anyways.

Have you ever been there? Do you know the area well?
Do you know the history of the area?
All of these are important to WV folks.
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
WV here.

Tough call really.

We do have a lot of anti mandate folks here, we also have many elderly and unhealthy folks so medical industry is huge and big pharma has its hooks in deep.

Was surprised how many here and people I knew took the vax.
I really don’t know if our people here will do another mask mandate.
I think enough know it’s bullshit and we aren’t being quiet about how we feel anymore.

Huntington to Charleston and Morgantown to clarksburg areas are most developed. But 15 miles away it’s countryside. Parkersburg decent size too. But if you want away from as many people as possible look into southern counties along Hatfield McCoy trails if there is a revolt it’ll start there lol
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so south of lewisburg to the west. There has been a few there I'm looking at.
What about the white sulfur springs area?
 Quoting: Feistylorax


White/Green Sulfur springs is fairly close to I-64.
Lots of land for sale there lately ...

Your bigger towns would be Lewisburg and Beckley.

Coal country.
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I am from West Virginia and yes most the people are non compliant but still plenty of dumb asses here that will go along. We shall see i am hoping the people here will band together and tell the Feds to go to hell if any state does it it will be West Virginia. People thin hillbillies are inbred and stupid but couldnt be further from the truth.
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
WV here.

Tough call really.

We do have a lot of anti mandate folks here, we also have many elderly and unhealthy folks so medical industry is huge and big pharma has its hooks in deep.

Was surprised how many here and people I knew took the vax.
I really don’t know if our people here will do another mask mandate.
I think enough know it’s bullshit and we aren’t being quiet about how we feel anymore.

Huntington to Charleston and Morgantown to clarksburg areas are most developed. But 15 miles away it’s countryside. Parkersburg decent size too. But if you want away from as many people as possible look into southern counties along Hatfield McCoy trails if there is a revolt it’ll start there lol
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so south of lewisburg to the west. There has been a few there I'm looking at.
What about the white sulfur springs area?
 Quoting: Feistylorax


I'm less familiar with the areas south of I-64, honestly.

More familiar with the 219 corridor (Seneca Trail) and surrounding areas of 219. The real mountain folk.

Lately seen a lot of folks visiting from up state NY .. Adirondacks area. Nice folks .. just visiting .. don't stay.
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I am from West Virginia and yes most the people are non compliant but still plenty of dumb asses here that will go along. We shall see i am hoping the people here will band together and tell the Feds to go to hell if any state does it it will be West Virginia. People thin hillbillies are inbred and stupid but couldnt be further from the truth.
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The go-along dumbasses are generally in the towns.
[From my observations]
Mountain folks are the coolest, most laid back folks you could ever meet.

I understand that the only time the Feds ever bombed Americans from the air was during the WV mine wars.
Look up Blair Mountain and what the US Gov did to them.

That's why WV will never submit. NEVER.

There will always be the wild, inbred hillbilly up there.

And yes, NOT stupid! They have the most common sense of any folks I've ever met. Self determination and can-do attitude.
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
WV here.

Tough call really.

We do have a lot of anti mandate folks here, we also have many elderly and unhealthy folks so medical industry is huge and big pharma has its hooks in deep.

Was surprised how many here and people I knew took the vax.
I really don’t know if our people here will do another mask mandate.
I think enough know it’s bullshit and we aren’t being quiet about how we feel anymore.

Huntington to Charleston and Morgantown to clarksburg areas are most developed. But 15 miles away it’s countryside. Parkersburg decent size too. But if you want away from as many people as possible look into southern counties along Hatfield McCoy trails if there is a revolt it’ll start there lol
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so south of lewisburg to the west. There has been a few there I'm looking at.
What about the white sulfur springs area?
 Quoting: Feistylorax


Here is the thing.... you also said you aren’t looking to integrate. Well that’s going to be required here anywhere in wv. What others have said about family’s and who you know is all very true. And more important the more remote you go.
We are good people here willing to help others and all but we only trust those that we know. I’d welcome an outsider as long as you can get along with us and gain our trust. We talk slow but don’t ever underestimate a hillbilly ;)
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
I am from West Virginia and yes most the people are non compliant but still plenty of dumb asses here that will go along. We shall see i am hoping the people here will band together and tell the Feds to go to hell if any state does it it will be West Virginia. People thin hillbillies are inbred and stupid but couldnt be further from the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80608685


The go-along dumbasses are generally in the towns.
[From my observations]
Mountain folks are the coolest, most laid back folks you could ever meet.

I understand that the only time the Feds ever bombed Americans from the air was during the WV mine wars.
Look up Blair Mountain and what the US Gov did to them.

That's why WV will never submit. NEVER.

There will always be the wild, inbred hillbilly up there.

And yes, NOT stupid! They have the most common sense of any folks I've ever met. Self determination and can-do attitude.
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100% correct I live in Ritchie county wouldnt leave it for nothing.
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We talk slow but don’t ever underestimate a hillbilly ;)
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Amen!

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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
We live in Maine, we want out of Blue state hell.
We're looking to have enough land to grow food and animals. I've been looking mostly down the East side of the state not counting the handles.
What area am I going to see the ones that aren't going to wear masks and fight back on vaccine mandates?
A thriving local small farm area would be a perfect bonus.
 Quoting: Feistylorax


If you are not kin to an existing clan in WV, then you will have almost no chance of integrating to hillbilly life.

Just telling it like it is.

WV is a very rural state .. people there are quite a bit different from any other place that I've been.

They handle their own shit with very little outside influence. Great people .. the BEST!

However, if you cannot prove genealogically that you belong there, good luck.

Prove your kin back 200 years and you may be accepted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


I know that. I'm not looking to integrate. I'm looking to be up in the mountains and left alone.
I'm going there regardless of fitting in. I just want to know what area is best for it.
 Quoting: Feistylorax


Neighbors (even up in the high mountains and more so) help each other. If you are an outsider with strange speech .. well, good luck with that.
I predict your soon departure ...
[Not trying to be mean, just real]

Everyone knows everyone else in small communities.
They know who their daddy was and their daddies daddy and so on. They know family connections, etc.

Limited roads easily become blocked in storms and floods.
It's why you DO need to integrate.

Tough move to eastern WV .. you might try the other side of the mountains in VA. The adjacent counties may switch over to WV anyways.

Have you ever been there? Do you know the area well?
Do you know the history of the area?
All of these are important to WV folks.
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I can attest to this. I have roots in WV going back generations. My grandfather was a coal miner. The clannishness is down to the local level. When I was a kid, my parents moved us from our cute little farm in GA (my dad's roots) up to WV (my mother's roots) as part of the "back to the land" movement in the 1970s. IMO, it was the worst mistake they ever made. Being near my maternal grandparents was great (2 hours from them), but we were never accepted during the 10 years we lived in Southeastern WV. Beautiful countryside, lots of farms, terrible schools, very clannish people. We moved back to GA in 1986, because my parents couldn't make a living. I was old enough to talk them into finally leaving. I went back in the 90s and met a couple who had moved there 5 years before from NJ to give their kids a better life. They had opened a small general store in the middle of nowhere to serve the locals. They were having a going out of business sale when I stopped in. The owner very bitterly told me her story about how people deliberately starved their business by driving 30 minutes to an hour to a different store to avoid shopping there simply because they were outsiders. I felt really bad for her. We had deep roots in that state, but not in that county, so we were never accepted. I sometimes long to go back there because the mountains are in my blood, but it is not an easy place to live, for sure.
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
WV here.

Tough call really.

We do have a lot of anti mandate folks here, we also have many elderly and unhealthy folks so medical industry is huge and big pharma has its hooks in deep.

Was surprised how many here and people I knew took the vax.
I really don’t know if our people here will do another mask mandate.
I think enough know it’s bullshit and we aren’t being quiet about how we feel anymore.

Huntington to Charleston and Morgantown to clarksburg areas are most developed. But 15 miles away it’s countryside. Parkersburg decent size too. But if you want away from as many people as possible look into southern counties along Hatfield McCoy trails if there is a revolt it’ll start there lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70987342


so south of lewisburg to the west. There has been a few there I'm looking at.
What about the white sulfur springs area?
 Quoting: Feistylorax


Here is the thing.... you also said you aren’t looking to integrate. Well that’s going to be required here anywhere in wv. What others have said about family’s and who you know is all very true. And more important the more remote you go.
We are good people here willing to help others and all but we only trust those that we know. I’d welcome an outsider as long as you can get along with us and gain our trust. We talk slow but don’t ever underestimate a hillbilly ;)
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We're looking there because we see what is there and who the people are. We want to be around people like that. We're not city people, we have gardens and chickens. I make soaps, am working on wild crafting and making medicinal medicines.
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If you are not kin to an existing clan in WV, then you will have almost no chance of integrating to hillbilly life.

Just telling it like it is.

WV is a very rural state .. people there are quite a bit different from any other place that I've been.

They handle their own shit with very little outside influence. Great people .. the BEST!

However, if you cannot prove genealogically that you belong there, good luck.

Prove your kin back 200 years and you may be accepted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


I know that. I'm not looking to integrate. I'm looking to be up in the mountains and left alone.
I'm going there regardless of fitting in. I just want to know what area is best for it.
 Quoting: Feistylorax


Neighbors (even up in the high mountains and more so) help each other. If you are an outsider with strange speech .. well, good luck with that.
I predict your soon departure ...
[Not trying to be mean, just real]

Everyone knows everyone else in small communities.
They know who their daddy was and their daddies daddy and so on. They know family connections, etc.

Limited roads easily become blocked in storms and floods.
It's why you DO need to integrate.

Tough move to eastern WV .. you might try the other side of the mountains in VA. The adjacent counties may switch over to WV anyways.

Have you ever been there? Do you know the area well?
Do you know the history of the area?
All of these are important to WV folks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318



I can attest to this. I have roots in WV going back generations. My grandfather was a coal miner. The clannishness is down to the local level. When I was a kid, my parents moved us from our cute little farm in GA (my dad's roots) up to WV (my mother's roots) as part of the "back to the land" movement in the 1970s. IMO, it was the worst mistake they ever made. Being near my maternal grandparents was great (2 hours from them), but we were never accepted during the 10 years we lived in Southeastern WV. Beautiful countryside, lots of farms, terrible schools, very clannish people. We moved back to GA in 1986, because my parents couldn't make a living. I was old enough to talk them into finally leaving. I went back in the 90s and met a couple who had moved there 5 years before from NJ to give their kids a better life. They had opened a small general store in the middle of nowhere to serve the locals. They were having a going out of business sale when I stopped in. The owner very bitterly told me her story about how people deliberately starved their business by driving 30 minutes to an hour to a different store to avoid shopping there simply because they were outsiders. I felt really bad for her. We had deep roots in that state, but not in that county, so we were never accepted. I sometimes long to go back there because the mountains are in my blood, but it is not an easy place to live, for sure.
 Quoting: OrthodoxMom


So very true, OrthoMom.
Outsiders and flatlanders are looked upon with suspicion.
I don't believe it's malicious or intentionally discriminatory.

It comes from generations of being isolated, taken advantage of and slandered as wild and lawless.
Probably stems from the Hatfield/McCoy days.
Was nearly a war between KY and WV back then ...

My people have been here over 200 years; a 'pioneer' family which crossed over from Shenandoah valley days. (1750s)

They say that if you flatten out WV, it would be bigger than the state of Texas! Takes forever to get anywhere here!
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If you are not kin to an existing clan in WV, then you will have almost no chance of integrating to hillbilly life.

Just telling it like it is.

WV is a very rural state .. people there are quite a bit different from any other place that I've been.

They handle their own shit with very little outside influence. Great people .. the BEST!

However, if you cannot prove genealogically that you belong there, good luck.

Prove your kin back 200 years and you may be accepted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


I know that. I'm not looking to integrate. I'm looking to be up in the mountains and left alone.
I'm going there regardless of fitting in. I just want to know what area is best for it.
 Quoting: Feistylorax


Neighbors (even up in the high mountains and more so) help each other. If you are an outsider with strange speech .. well, good luck with that.
I predict your soon departure ...
[Not trying to be mean, just real]

Everyone knows everyone else in small communities.
They know who their daddy was and their daddies daddy and so on. They know family connections, etc.

Limited roads easily become blocked in storms and floods.
It's why you DO need to integrate.

Tough move to eastern WV .. you might try the other side of the mountains in VA. The adjacent counties may switch over to WV anyways.

Have you ever been there? Do you know the area well?
Do you know the history of the area?
All of these are important to WV folks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318



I can attest to this. I have roots in WV going back generations. My grandfather was a coal miner. The clannishness is down to the local level. When I was a kid, my parents moved us from our cute little farm in GA (my dad's roots) up to WV (my mother's roots) as part of the "back to the land" movement in the 1970s. IMO, it was the worst mistake they ever made. Being near my maternal grandparents was great (2 hours from them), but we were never accepted during the 10 years we lived in Southeastern WV. Beautiful countryside, lots of farms, terrible schools, very clannish people. We moved back to GA in 1986, because my parents couldn't make a living. I was old enough to talk them into finally leaving. I went back in the 90s and met a couple who had moved there 5 years before from NJ to give their kids a better life. They had opened a small general store in the middle of nowhere to serve the locals. They were having a going out of business sale when I stopped in. The owner very bitterly told me her story about how people deliberately starved their business by driving 30 minutes to an hour to a different store to avoid shopping there simply because they were outsiders. I felt really bad for her. We had deep roots in that state, but not in that county, so we were never accepted. I sometimes long to go back there because the mountains are in my blood, but it is not an easy place to live, for sure.
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I reviewed my post and want to add one thing: many people in WV are good, decent, God-fearing people. It happens to be an insular culture. You will need your neighbors. How you integrate (even in a limited way) will certainly depend on how you win their trust. Humility, showing yourself willing to help when needed, might help. It will take awhile, IMO.
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I know that. I'm not looking to integrate. I'm looking to be up in the mountains and left alone.
I'm going there regardless of fitting in. I just want to know what area is best for it.
 Quoting: Feistylorax


Neighbors (even up in the high mountains and more so) help each other. If you are an outsider with strange speech .. well, good luck with that.
I predict your soon departure ...
[Not trying to be mean, just real]

Everyone knows everyone else in small communities.
They know who their daddy was and their daddies daddy and so on. They know family connections, etc.

Limited roads easily become blocked in storms and floods.
It's why you DO need to integrate.

Tough move to eastern WV .. you might try the other side of the mountains in VA. The adjacent counties may switch over to WV anyways.

Have you ever been there? Do you know the area well?
Do you know the history of the area?
All of these are important to WV folks.
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I can attest to this. I have roots in WV going back generations. My grandfather was a coal miner. The clannishness is down to the local level. When I was a kid, my parents moved us from our cute little farm in GA (my dad's roots) up to WV (my mother's roots) as part of the "back to the land" movement in the 1970s. IMO, it was the worst mistake they ever made. Being near my maternal grandparents was great (2 hours from them), but we were never accepted during the 10 years we lived in Southeastern WV. Beautiful countryside, lots of farms, terrible schools, very clannish people. We moved back to GA in 1986, because my parents couldn't make a living. I was old enough to talk them into finally leaving. I went back in the 90s and met a couple who had moved there 5 years before from NJ to give their kids a better life. They had opened a small general store in the middle of nowhere to serve the locals. They were having a going out of business sale when I stopped in. The owner very bitterly told me her story about how people deliberately starved their business by driving 30 minutes to an hour to a different store to avoid shopping there simply because they were outsiders. I felt really bad for her. We had deep roots in that state, but not in that county, so we were never accepted. I sometimes long to go back there because the mountains are in my blood, but it is not an easy place to live, for sure.
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So very true, OrthoMom.
Outsiders and flatlanders are looked upon with suspicion.
I don't believe it's malicious or intentionally discriminatory.

It comes from generations of being isolated, taken advantage of and slandered as wild and lawless.
Probably stems from the Hatfield/McCoy days.
Was nearly a war between KY and WV back then ...

My people have been here over 200 years; a 'pioneer' family which crossed over from Shenandoah valley days. (1750s)

They say that if you flatten out WV, it would be bigger than the state of Texas! Takes forever to get anywhere here!
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That sounds about right. :-)
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Re: West virginia Where are the people the most non compliant?
WV here.

Tough call really.

We do have a lot of anti mandate folks here, we also have many elderly and unhealthy folks so medical industry is huge and big pharma has its hooks in deep.

Was surprised how many here and people I knew took the vax.
I really don’t know if our people here will do another mask mandate.
I think enough know it’s bullshit and we aren’t being quiet about how we feel anymore.

Huntington to Charleston and Morgantown to clarksburg areas are most developed. But 15 miles away it’s countryside. Parkersburg decent size too. But if you want away from as many people as possible look into southern counties along Hatfield McCoy trails if there is a revolt it’ll start there lol
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so south of lewisburg to the west. There has been a few there I'm looking at.
What about the white sulfur springs area?
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Here is the thing.... you also said you aren’t looking to integrate. Well that’s going to be required here anywhere in wv. What others have said about family’s and who you know is all very true. And more important the more remote you go.
We are good people here willing to help others and all but we only trust those that we know. I’d welcome an outsider as long as you can get along with us and gain our trust. We talk slow but don’t ever underestimate a hillbilly ;)
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We're looking there because we see what is there and who the people are. We want to be around people like that. We're not city people, we have gardens and chickens. I make soaps, am working on wild crafting and making medicinal medicines.
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Take a vacation and visit where you find a place. Talk to your prospective neighbors before you buy land see if it feels right. That’s be my best advice.

It’s more about the land for your purposes and the community you’ll be living within.
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So we are aware of the outsider aspect. Maine has something similar (refer to people as from "away" or a "Flatlander").
We are honest kind people. We share with our neighbors, aren't troublemakers, and respect private property.
I know it is the mountains, with the solar stuff coming we want to be up high.
Neither the hubby nor I have relatives in the area.
The closest I could say would be that I've Crockett blood.

I don't think people are inbred or stupid for living in the sticks, they say the same about where we live now.
“Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.”
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So we are aware of the outsider aspect. Maine has something similar (refer to people as from "away" or a "Flatlander").
We are honest kind people. We share with our neighbors, aren't troublemakers, and respect private property.
I know it is the mountains, with the solar stuff coming we want to be up high.
Neither the hubby nor I have relatives in the area.
The closest I could say would be that I've Crockett blood.

I don't think people are inbred or stupid for living in the sticks, they say the same about where we live now.
“Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.”
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many people in WV are good, decent, God-fearing people. It happens to be an insular culture. You will need your neighbors. How you integrate (even in a limited way) will certainly depend on how you win their trust. Humility, showing yourself willing to help when needed, might help. It will take awhile, IMO.
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Faith is indeed important! Maybe #1.

Speaking of 'insular culture' .. everything is that way.
Music, tradition, community .. all isolated/insulated from outsiders and the way they live.

I've been all over the Appalachians, north to south numerous times, and WV Alleghenies are the most isolated areas BY FAR. AND the most beautiful and unspoiled.
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depends on how rural you want to live. I have lived in the areas outside of Marietta going further into the country, where its small town after small town and pretty rural at times, its a nice place to live. Caldwell, Beverly, Mcconnelsville, Chesterhill, etc. Areas outside of Parkersburg WV are very nice.

There is an area outside of Morgantown WV called Sugar grove, might check that out, very rural, but not super far from civilization.
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It’s too bad the rest of America does not have the characteristics of WV people. We wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now. Most of us are disconnected from tribe which is an enormous source of strength and resistance to tyranny. We have been seduced with so much materialism we are choking in it. We are spiritually adrift.
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We live in Maine, we want out of Blue state hell.
We're looking to have enough land to grow food and animals. I've been looking mostly down the East side of the state not counting the handles.
What area am I going to see the ones that aren't going to wear masks and fight back on vaccine mandates?
A thriving local small farm area would be a perfect bonus.
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Look in the Blacksville WV area. You would be very close to Morgantown but still have your choice of a decent farm. People here are a lot more friendly then you think. We talk funny but we do not lack intelligence.
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It’s too bad the rest of America does not have the characteristics of WV people. We wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now. Most of us are disconnected from tribe which is an enormous source of strength and resistance to tyranny. We have been seduced with so much materialism we are choking in it. We are spiritually adrift.
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The truth is - WV is a throwback to the early days of our nation.

Independence, Faith, Family and Community mean more than the sum of the whole to most rural folks.

The outside world and its ways are creepin' in though ...

The only way that WV folks can keep it out is isolation and insulation from those materialistic outside ways.
A dash of Amish, I guess?
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The eastern panhandle is a mix, half originals, and transplants, with increasing numbers of out of state people lately. In the last 2 years, my 1/2 mile road has added 4 homes, including mine, all from Maryland, and one New Jersey. Liberals infest the town about 10 miles away. One coffee shop owned by God chosen sponsored a blm in the park last year, and it has a fledgling farmers market, health food store, thrift store decked out in rainbows, (Actually, I think she's trying to lure Gays to buy it, by decorating. Independent movie house played that weird cult classic at midnight, can't think of the name. Rocky horror..... outside of town, its all rural and farms. Yes, I'd say people are clan but still always civil. Fortunately I am pretty independent, and don't need help so far, so I don't know how it would go if the shtf, but I don't really care at my age.





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