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Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???

 
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Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Went into Windows Update today, and noticed a warning that my CPU is not compatible with Windows 11.

I built the computer 2 years ago, WTF???

From the articles I'm reading, you will need a processor released after 2017 for Intel and 2018 for AMD.

I built my computer in 2019, but the processor was released in 2017.

:gates:

Yes yes I know, INB4 something something Gates vaccines something something use linux something something... whatever. Just wanted to give people a heads up.
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Microsoft is owned by China anyway so the time has come
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
linuxmint.com

never look back
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linuxmint.com

never look back
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80380628


Yes, I have two computers that run mint.

They don't make PLC programming software and many other proprietary programs needed in my line of work for linux.
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10/13/2021 03:15 PM
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Doesnt bother me I never switched from Windows 7.
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Linux Mint mate
Manjaro mate

Mate is the desktop environment it behaves very similar to windows.
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Doesnt bother me I never switched from Windows 7.
 Quoting: D33PSTAT3


THIS
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10/13/2021 03:20 PM

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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Yeah, runnung into a lot of outrage on this one right now - giant pain in my ass.

Even my i5-7200U is considered too "old," even though it was being used in systems up to the beginning of this year. The worst part? the "PC Health Check" will tell you that you pass EVERY parameter, even minimum CPU requirements get the checkmark - but disqualify you because the CPU isn't on the "list."

And to exacerbate the issue, they THEMSELVES allow for you to override that requirement if you use installation media, and they ALSO explain exactly how to override SecureBoot and TPM requirements, on the MS official doc pages. But then they explain that doing so will remove all support for the system, and even void OEM / Manufacturer's support / warranty.

Gee - trying to drive hardware sales, anyone? Oh, wait - there ARE some older (pre-gen 8) processors allowed - as long as they're specific to Surface hardware.

Scam, as usual.

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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Gee - trying to drive hardware sales, anyone? Oh, wait - there ARE some older (pre-gen 8) processors allowed - as long as they're specific to Surface hardware.
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


And add on top of that, we're in the middle of a damn chip shortage... and they arbitrarily decide that millions and millions of computers only a couple of years old are now obsolete???

putin
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Try Arch Linux. It's the best.

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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Gee - trying to drive hardware sales, anyone? Oh, wait - there ARE some older (pre-gen 8) processors allowed - as long as they're specific to Surface hardware.
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


And add on top of that, we're in the middle of a damn chip shortage... and they arbitrarily decide that millions and millions of computers only a couple of years old are now obsolete???

putin
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Well, of course! They don't care - they have enough for MS proprietary hardware - that's nothing but an advantage for them. If Asus et al ar3e having a hard time sourcing procs, all the better for MS sales.

Yet at the same time, they understand that the issue exists - so they SPECIFICALLY build in workarounds to ensure that the new OS propagates rapidly despite the "unsupported hardware" issue - while absolving themselves of any responsibility for it and legally indemnifying themselves even though they actually provided you with the workaround.

Sounds like big pharma, doesn't it? Interesting that Gates had a huge part in influencing both industries... :|

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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Try Arch Linux. It's the best.

5a
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Manjaro is Arch but easier to install and more user friendly.
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Try Arch Linux. It's the best.

5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68958840


Linux is great, Linux is wonderful, we all love Linux.

But when you WORK in tech, sometimes you gotta Window and sometimes you have to Mac OS. Not a choice-based scenario.

Enough with the Linux already.

laugh
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Went into Windows Update today, and noticed a warning that my CPU is not compatible with Windows 11.

I built the computer 2 years ago, WTF???

From the articles I'm reading, you will need a processor released after 2017 for Intel and 2018 for AMD.

I built my computer in 2019, but the processor was released in 2017.

:gates:

Yes yes I know, INB4 something something Gates vaccines something something use linux something something... whatever. Just wanted to give people a heads up.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


your not missing much, windows 11 sucks the same as 10. Add features that nobody would ever use and take away the ones you were used too.
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10/13/2021 03:35 PM
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Try Arch Linux. It's the best.

5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68958840


Linux is great, Linux is wonderful, we all love Linux.

But when you WORK in tech, sometimes you gotta Window and sometimes you have to Mac OS. Not a choice-based scenario.

Enough with the Linux already.

laugh
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


So run a virtual machine with hardware pass-through and install windows in the virtual machine.
It's simple if you work in tech you should be able to do it.
MountainTux NLI

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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Try Arch Linux. It's the best.

5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68958840


Linux is great, Linux is wonderful, we all love Linux.

But when you WORK in tech, sometimes you gotta Window and sometimes you have to Mac OS. Not a choice-based scenario.

Enough with the Linux already.

laugh
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


So run a virtual machine with hardware pass-through and install windows in the virtual machine.
It's simple if you work in tech you should be able to do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80631610


Yeah, utilizing 3x the resources, which shouldn't be required in the first place, and that still won't work properly in some cases, especially with some RD platforms.

Simple, but shouldn't be necessary - and not really the point of the convo, though you're more or less correct.

hf

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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Not only the processor. It also needs "Secure Boot".
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10/13/2021 03:47 PM
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
No it will support it.

You need to turn on BOTH TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot in your BIOs. Usually in the security section of it.

Processors more than 5 years old might not support it.
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Blame China! Windows 11 is their product now and they can not efficiently surveil you with the older processors because those older processors do not have the newer internal dragon upgrades.
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10/13/2021 03:50 PM
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
There are ways around the requirements if you really want it.

[link to www.tomshardware.com (secure)]
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10/13/2021 03:51 PM
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
with my tinfoil hat on, perhaps any proc over 3 years old isn't backdoored. :D
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10/13/2021 03:55 PM
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
I think this is the problem for the more recent, yet excluded, processors

Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
No it will support it.

You need to turn on BOTH TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot in your BIOs. Usually in the security section of it.

Processors more than 5 years old might not support it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79275646


Does not matter - aren't you paying attention?

Microsoft has created an arbitrary LIST of processors which are considered "supported," and anything not on that list fails the test, therefore cannot be officially upgraded. Yes, you can circumvent that and it will work just fine (and it appears that updates are still being processed on these systems) but you then void any support for the system from both MS and the hardware manufacturer.

Also, hint, unless it's a custom system, units haven't shipped with TPM and SB disabled since W8.

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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
My PC supports it, I still switched to Linux.
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Went into Windows Update today, and noticed a warning that my CPU is not compatible with Windows 11.

I built the computer 2 years ago, WTF???

From the articles I'm reading, you will need a processor released after 2017 for Intel and 2018 for AMD.

I built my computer in 2019, but the processor was released in 2017.

:gates:

Yes yes I know, INB4 something something Gates vaccines something something use linux something something... whatever. Just wanted to give people a heads up.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Windows XP is where its at
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
No it will support it.

You need to turn on BOTH TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot in your BIOs. Usually in the security section of it.

Processors more than 5 years old might not support it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79275646


Does not matter - aren't you paying attention?

Microsoft has created an arbitrary LIST of processors which are considered "supported," and anything not on that list fails the test, therefore cannot be officially upgraded. Yes, you can circumvent that and it will work just fine (and it appears that updates are still being processed on these systems) but you then void any support for the system from both MS and the hardware manufacturer.

Also, hint, unless it's a custom system, units haven't shipped with TPM and SB disabled since W8.

penguin
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


(TPM) version 2.0
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
I think this is the problem for the more recent, yet excluded, processors

Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80070202


Nope - the two are mutually exclusive.

Again, this particular system (and millions more) are barely three years old, and meet EVERY SINGLE REQUIREMENT. The CPU in fact FAR exceeds the CPU minimum requirement.

The issue is that the PROCESSOR MODEL has been excluded for age-based reasons, no more. You cna pass EVERY check but it will fail the system and not allow a traditional upgrade because the proc isn't on an "approved" list, arbitrarily - that's all.

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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Went into Windows Update today, and noticed a warning that my CPU is not compatible with Windows 11.

I built the computer 2 years ago, WTF???

From the articles I'm reading, you will need a processor released after 2017 for Intel and 2018 for AMD.

I built my computer in 2019, but the processor was released in 2017.

:gates:

Yes yes I know, INB4 something something Gates vaccines something something use linux something something... whatever. Just wanted to give people a heads up.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


The dumbing down of peoples comps!
Snapdragon etc is a lockout that is proprietary backdoored needing key to root.basically impossible.notice how gates wants us all on cloud.locked in your safe space.
Proof evil people dont immediately become fire and ash at some level.this guy has a monopoly on evil.
Time we all built out super computers and isolated his ass.a rebel alliance.
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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
Benchmarks are 30% slower on win 11 compared to win 10

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Re: Windows 11 will not support any processors more than 3 years old???
But when you WORK in tech, sometimes you gotta Window and sometimes you have to Mac OS. Not a choice-based scenario.

Enough with the Linux already.
 Quoting: MountainTux NLI


So run a virtual machine with hardware pass-through and install windows in the virtual machine.
It's simple if you work in tech you should be able to do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80631610


Many of my facilities don't allow computers on their network if they are still running Windows 7.

Yes, it's unlikely anybody would notice. No, it's not worth it to me to lose a client if they did.





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