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Did Jesus lie to the scribe?

 
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Why didn't you include the lawyer's answer in your post? Here it is :

25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?

27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.


If you "love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself" then you are on the path to Jesus. Not to Mohammed, or Buddha, or Scientology, or Urantia. It's simple.
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For men this is impossible…

As it is written, can a leopard change its spots…

Neither can we, or the lawyer, who are accustomed to evil

do good..

It is ONLY thru the calling spirit that we are given grace to approach Him…

And for those who love the truth, peace and eternal comfort…

But for those who do not love truth…

Damnation….

May the Spirit of truth visit the Op..

And shine the light of truth in his heart…

The truth in The only begotten son…

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Jesus was a man.

We are all sons of God.

We can all be one with the Father when we follow the way as taught by Yahshua.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


You and are were born of corrupted seed…

From the garden…. A virus took hold…

He was born of incorruptible seed…

You and I are not begotten as He was begotten…

Everyone talks about the covid virus…. Hot topic as of late…

But the real killer virus was from the beginning…

And it is taking many unbelievers to hell…

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


No one wants to address the uncomfortable elephant in the room…

We are all bastards…. Imprinted with bastard genes and bastard tendencies…

We do evil… continually…. Even our best days are filthy rags in the eyes of The creator…

And we were all doomed to the pit…. That was the inheritance of a decision made long ago in a place…

But God still loves us…. And knows how to break the chains…

And it is thru His son that those chains are broken…

He is asking for us to simply believe…

But men won’t come to His son…

Why?

Because our heart and our deeds are evil and He will expose us for what we truly are…

In that day..

when all the veils are lifted…

There will be only one light…

And it is Christ.

.
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OP is just another downright blasphemers and had spoken evil about Lord Jesus.

And behold, a certain expert in the law rose up, testing him and saying, “Teacher, what must I do to possess eternal life?”

But he said to him: “What is written in the law? How do you read it?”

In response, he said: “You shall love the Lord your God from your whole heart, and from your whole soul, and from all your strength, and from all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.”

And he said to him: “You have answered correctly. Do this, and you will live.”

But since he wanted to justify himself, he said to Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

Then Jesus, taking this up, said: “A certain man descended from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he happened upon robbers, who now also plundered him. And inflicting him with wounds, they went away, leaving him behind, half-alive.

And it happened that a certain priest was descending along the same way. And seeing him, he passed by.

And similarly a Levite, when he was near the place, also saw him, and he passed by.

But a certain Samaritan, being on a journey, came near him. And seeing him, he was moved by mercy.

And approaching him, he bound up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them. And setting him on his pack animal, he brought him to an inn, and he took care of him.

And the next day, he took out two denarii, and he gave them to the proprietor, and he said: ‘Take care of him. And whatever extra you will have spent, I will repay to you at my return.’

Which of these three, does it seem to you, was a neighbor to him who fell among the robbers?”

Then he said, “The one who acted with mercy toward him.” And Jesus said to him, “Go, and act similarly.” - Luke 10:25-37



TEN COMMITMENTS
You shall know that you have taken the path to God, and you shall know that you have found God, for there will be these signs, these indications, these changes in you:

1. You shall love God with all your heart, all your mind, all your soul. And there shall be no other God set before Me. No longer will you worship human love, or success, money, or power, nor any symbol thereof. You will set aside these things as a child sets aside toys. Not because they are unworthy, but because you have outgrown them. - Conversations With God, Vol 1 - Free for all online


And one of them, a doctor of the law, questioned him, to test him:

“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?”

Jesus said to him: “ ‘You shall love the Lord your God from all your heart, and with all your soul and with all your mind.’

This is the greatest and first commandment.

But the second is similar to it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’

On these two commandments the entire law depends, and also the prophets.” - Matthew 22:35-40

 Quoting: Elijah The Fiery Prophet 81084900


Yes, on those TWO commands all rests.

So how am I a blasphemer because I am discussing Yahshua's words?
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For men this is impossible…

As it is written, can a leopard change its spots…

Neither can we, or the lawyer, who are accustomed to evil

do good..

It is ONLY thru the calling spirit that we are given grace to approach Him…

And for those who love the truth, peace and eternal comfort…

But for those who do not love truth…

Damnation….

May the Spirit of truth visit the Op..

And shine the light of truth in his heart…

The truth in The only begotten son…

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Jesus was a man.

We are all sons of God.

We can all be one with the Father when we follow the way as taught by Yahshua.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


You and are were born of corrupted seed…

From the garden…. A virus took hold…

He was born of incorruptible seed…

You and I are not begotten as He was begotten…

Everyone talks about the covid virus…. Hot topic as of late…

But the real killer virus was from the beginning…

And it is taking many unbelievers to hell…

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


No one wants to address the uncomfortable elephant in the room…

We are all bastards…. Imprinted with bastard genes and bastard tendencies…

We do evil… continually…. Even our best days are filthy rags in the eyes of The creator…

And we were all doomed to the pit…. That was the inheritance of a decision made long ago in a place…

But God still loves us…. And knows how to break the chains…

And it is thru His son that those chains are broken…

He is asking for us to simply believe…

But men won’t come to His son…

Why?

Because our heart and our deeds are evil and He will expose us for what we truly are…

In that day..

when all the veils are lifted…

There will be only one light…

And it is Christ.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Killer religious doctrine... damning a diminishig the creation of the Father.....

If you don't have something productive to post, please refrain.
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Jesus was a man.

We are all sons of God.

We can all be one with the Father when we follow the way as taught by Yahshua.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


You and are were born of corrupted seed…

From the garden…. A virus took hold…

He was born of incorruptible seed…

You and I are not begotten as He was begotten…

Everyone talks about the covid virus…. Hot topic as of late…

But the real killer virus was from the beginning…

And it is taking many unbelievers to hell…

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


No one wants to address the uncomfortable elephant in the room…

We are all bastards…. Imprinted with bastard genes and bastard tendencies…

We do evil… continually…. Even our best days are filthy rags in the eyes of The creator…

And we were all doomed to the pit…. That was the inheritance of a decision made long ago in a place…

But God still loves us…. And knows how to break the chains…

And it is thru His son that those chains are broken…

He is asking for us to simply believe…

But men won’t come to His son…

Why?

Because our heart and our deeds are evil and He will expose us for what we truly are…

In that day..

when all the veils are lifted…

There will be only one light…

And it is Christ.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Killer religious doctrine... damning a diminishig the creation of the Father.....

If you don't have something productive to post, please refrain.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


You sound like a lawyer…

Lol..
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You and are were born of corrupted seed…

From the garden…. A virus took hold…

He was born of incorruptible seed…

You and I are not begotten as He was begotten…

Everyone talks about the covid virus…. Hot topic as of late…

But the real killer virus was from the beginning…

And it is taking many unbelievers to hell…

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


No one wants to address the uncomfortable elephant in the room…

We are all bastards…. Imprinted with bastard genes and bastard tendencies…

We do evil… continually…. Even our best days are filthy rags in the eyes of The creator…

And we were all doomed to the pit…. That was the inheritance of a decision made long ago in a place…

But God still loves us…. And knows how to break the chains…

And it is thru His son that those chains are broken…

He is asking for us to simply believe…

But men won’t come to His son…

Why?

Because our heart and our deeds are evil and He will expose us for what we truly are…

In that day..

when all the veils are lifted…

There will be only one light…

And it is Christ.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Killer religious doctrine... damning a diminishig the creation of the Father.....

If you don't have something productive to post, please refrain.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


You sound like a lawyer…

Lol..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


I'm a paralegal by professions, lol.....

But, I'm just saying. It's the doctrine of the adversary that would damn a creation of the Father, make it believe itself to be worthless unless it bends the knee to the controller, ie., the god of this world.
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No one wants to address the uncomfortable elephant in the room…

We are all bastards…. Imprinted with bastard genes and bastard tendencies…

We do evil… continually…. Even our best days are filthy rags in the eyes of The creator…

And we were all doomed to the pit…. That was the inheritance of a decision made long ago in a place…

But God still loves us…. And knows how to break the chains…

And it is thru His son that those chains are broken…

He is asking for us to simply believe…

But men won’t come to His son…

Why?

Because our heart and our deeds are evil and He will expose us for what we truly are…

In that day..

when all the veils are lifted…

There will be only one light…

And it is Christ.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Killer religious doctrine... damning a diminishig the creation of the Father.....

If you don't have something productive to post, please refrain.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


You sound like a lawyer…

Lol..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


I'm a paralegal by professions, lol.....

But, I'm just saying. It's the doctrine of the adversary that would damn a creation of the Father, make it believe itself to be worthless unless it bends the knee to the controller, ie., the god of this world.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


I told you it was an uncomfortable elephant…

Read the Bible…

Or don’t…

It’s all in there.. and it messages is not all comfort and soothing words…

I did not write it…

But I sure do believe it…

I wish you well neighbor.

.
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Luke and Paul of Tarsus never met Jesus or were taught by Jesus anything, everything they wrote was passed by the real apostles or witnesses at least some years after Jesus left.

Unfortunately Paul has a lot of books in the new testament that only confuse people and the teachings of Jesus.
We live in an upside down world.
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I will leave you,with just one last thought for your hmmm…. Category…


When Christ was being challenged by the Pharisees, whose father did He say was theirs?

And if he is no liar, then whose father was theirs?

It’s not rocket science guys…

It we like to make it all mystical and cool..

Because we love the lust of mystical and cool…

We like to make it all sunshine and lollipops…

It’s raw…

And it’s truth…

Take it or leave it…

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Luke and Paul of Tarsus never met Jesus or were taught by Jesus anything, everything they wrote was passed by the real apostles or witnesses at least some years after Jesus left.

Unfortunately Paul has a lot of books in the new testament that only confuse people and the teachings of Jesus.
 Quoting: Iknow24


Peter had a few words for the folks who were confused by Paul’s writing and teachings…
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Killer religious doctrine... damning a diminishig the creation of the Father.....

If you don't have something productive to post, please refrain.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


You sound like a lawyer…

Lol..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


I'm a paralegal by professions, lol.....

But, I'm just saying. It's the doctrine of the adversary that would damn a creation of the Father, make it believe itself to be worthless unless it bends the knee to the controller, ie., the god of this world.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


I told you it was an uncomfortable elephant…

Read the Bible…

Or don’t…

It’s all in there.. and it messages is not all comfort and soothing words…

I did not write it…

But I sure do believe it…

I wish you well neighbor.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


I have read the bible..... several times. When I was still a christian, I debated ad nauseum the scriptures with other christians.. There's so much divisiness among christians as to what this verse means or doesn't, how this verse trumps that one.... there is no unity. There's very little love.... I left discussions in tears more than once because of the vitriolic hatred among those who claim to follow the 10 commandments.

When I read scriptures, on my own, without someone else feeling the need to tell me what it all meant... only when I opened my heart to truly receive the truth of the message, was I able to receive it.

Now when I try to share it, I am receiving the same types of response from chrisitans who claim to "love God with all their heart"

Your replies are kind hearted and well intentioned. I appreciate your interaction.
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You sound like a lawyer…

Lol..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


I'm a paralegal by professions, lol.....

But, I'm just saying. It's the doctrine of the adversary that would damn a creation of the Father, make it believe itself to be worthless unless it bends the knee to the controller, ie., the god of this world.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


I told you it was an uncomfortable elephant…

Read the Bible…

Or don’t…

It’s all in there.. and it messages is not all comfort and soothing words…

I did not write it…

But I sure do believe it…

I wish you well neighbor.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


I have read the bible..... several times. When I was still a christian, I debated ad nauseum the scriptures with other christians.. There's so much divisiness among christians as to what this verse means or doesn't, how this verse trumps that one.... there is no unity. There's very little love.... I left discussions in tears more than once because of the vitriolic hatred among those who claim to follow the 10 commandments.

When I read scriptures, on my own, without someone else feeling the need to tell me what it all meant... only when I opened my heart to truly receive the truth of the message, was I able to receive it.

Now when I try to share it, I am receiving the same types of response from chrisitans who claim to "love God with all their heart"

Your replies are kind hearted and well intentioned. I appreciate your interaction.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Your message denies the preeminent need for a savior.

It completely misses the mark from a biblical perspective

It does not align with Christian views..

No surprise you have bad experiences with many who do believe in the absolute need for a saviors…

You cannot read the whole of the Bible and miss that foundation tenant.

I am happy to chat, but let’s be honest when we chat.

.
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Luke and Paul of Tarsus never met Jesus or were taught by Jesus anything, everything they wrote was passed by the real apostles or witnesses at least some years after Jesus left.

Unfortunately Paul has a lot of books in the new testament that only confuse people and the teachings of Jesus.
 Quoting: Iknow24


I've been through the whole anti-paul business. There was a lot going on with his writings that I won't go into here, but there a some golden nuggets buried within,

Listening to a study of aramaic teachings of the words and the letters used to convey his messages bring an enlightenment that no one can truly understand without this deeper understanding.

Paul was teaching a "higher" narrative of Yahshua's teaching... and not the lower narrative passed on two us, and which is completely lost in the english translation. I'm guessing Peter had a problem with Paul's teachings beCOZ of that factor.... they being of a higher narrative which Peter himself had not yet heard, Yahshua having the need to word things as simply as possible for anyone who would even listen.
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I'm a paralegal by professions, lol.....

But, I'm just saying. It's the doctrine of the adversary that would damn a creation of the Father, make it believe itself to be worthless unless it bends the knee to the controller, ie., the god of this world.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


I told you it was an uncomfortable elephant…

Read the Bible…

Or don’t…

It’s all in there.. and it messages is not all comfort and soothing words…

I did not write it…

But I sure do believe it…

I wish you well neighbor.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


I have read the bible..... several times. When I was still a christian, I debated ad nauseum the scriptures with other christians.. There's so much divisiness among christians as to what this verse means or doesn't, how this verse trumps that one.... there is no unity. There's very little love.... I left discussions in tears more than once because of the vitriolic hatred among those who claim to follow the 10 commandments.

When I read scriptures, on my own, without someone else feeling the need to tell me what it all meant... only when I opened my heart to truly receive the truth of the message, was I able to receive it.

Now when I try to share it, I am receiving the same types of response from chrisitans who claim to "love God with all their heart"

Your replies are kind hearted and well intentioned. I appreciate your interaction.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Your message denies the preeminent need for a savior.

It completely misses the mark from a biblical perspective

It does not align with Christian views..

No surprise you have bad experiences with many who do believe in the absolute need for a saviors…

You cannot read the whole of the Bible and miss that foundation tenant.

I am happy to chat, but let’s be honest when we chat.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Are you accusing me of dishonesty?

I was raised Roman Catholic, became non-denom Protestant for many years, became a Messianic for several more years... began to see things in the scripts and teachings that 1) were NOT of a loving Creator Father, and 2) contradictory to each other, over and over and over again. So, I began to ask questions of the Father, and seek HIS guidance, rather than indoctrination of humans.

It's mind blowing......

Scripture says it is not possible for the blood of one man to redeem another. It's not a "Savior" that we need...... we needed to be shown the Way to the Father. Which is what Yahshua came to do.
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I told you it was an uncomfortable elephant…

Read the Bible…

Or don’t…

It’s all in there.. and it messages is not all comfort and soothing words…

I did not write it…

But I sure do believe it…

I wish you well neighbor.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


I have read the bible..... several times. When I was still a christian, I debated ad nauseum the scriptures with other christians.. There's so much divisiness among christians as to what this verse means or doesn't, how this verse trumps that one.... there is no unity. There's very little love.... I left discussions in tears more than once because of the vitriolic hatred among those who claim to follow the 10 commandments.

When I read scriptures, on my own, without someone else feeling the need to tell me what it all meant... only when I opened my heart to truly receive the truth of the message, was I able to receive it.

Now when I try to share it, I am receiving the same types of response from chrisitans who claim to "love God with all their heart"

Your replies are kind hearted and well intentioned. I appreciate your interaction.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Your message denies the preeminent need for a savior.

It completely misses the mark from a biblical perspective

It does not align with Christian views..

No surprise you have bad experiences with many who do believe in the absolute need for a saviors…

You cannot read the whole of the Bible and miss that foundation tenant.

I am happy to chat, but let’s be honest when we chat.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Are you accusing me of dishonesty?

I was raised Roman Catholic, became non-denom Protestant for many years, became a Messianic for several more years... began to see things in the scripts and teachings that 1) were NOT of a loving Creator Father, and 2) contradictory to each other, over and over and over again. So, I began to ask questions of the Father, and seek HIS guidance, rather than indoctrination of humans.

It's mind blowing......

Scripture says it is not possible for the blood of one man to redeem another. It's not a "Savior" that we need...... we needed to be shown the Way to the Father. Which is what Yahshua came to do.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


No, I am saying you ought to know why Christians push against your philosophy and not use it as some kind of weapon… or crutch… or excuses to accuse one fallen man against another fallen man…. It’s all just vanity…

Frankly, I don’t care what your story is….

We are either saved by the blood of Christ, as scripture states.

Or we choose not to believe scripture…

You have chosen some weird personal mix…

Cool…

Just don’t be surprised when Christians shun your message.

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I have read the bible..... several times. When I was still a christian, I debated ad nauseum the scriptures with other christians.. There's so much divisiness among christians as to what this verse means or doesn't, how this verse trumps that one.... there is no unity. There's very little love.... I left discussions in tears more than once because of the vitriolic hatred among those who claim to follow the 10 commandments.

When I read scriptures, on my own, without someone else feeling the need to tell me what it all meant... only when I opened my heart to truly receive the truth of the message, was I able to receive it.

Now when I try to share it, I am receiving the same types of response from chrisitans who claim to "love God with all their heart"

Your replies are kind hearted and well intentioned. I appreciate your interaction.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Your message denies the preeminent need for a savior.

It completely misses the mark from a biblical perspective

It does not align with Christian views..

No surprise you have bad experiences with many who do believe in the absolute need for a saviors…

You cannot read the whole of the Bible and miss that foundation tenant.

I am happy to chat, but let’s be honest when we chat.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Are you accusing me of dishonesty?

I was raised Roman Catholic, became non-denom Protestant for many years, became a Messianic for several more years... began to see things in the scripts and teachings that 1) were NOT of a loving Creator Father, and 2) contradictory to each other, over and over and over again. So, I began to ask questions of the Father, and seek HIS guidance, rather than indoctrination of humans.

It's mind blowing......

Scripture says it is not possible for the blood of one man to redeem another. It's not a "Savior" that we need...... we needed to be shown the Way to the Father. Which is what Yahshua came to do.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


No, I am saying you ought to know why Christians push against your philosophy and not use it as some kind of weapon… or crutch… or excuses to accuse one fallen man against another fallen man…. It’s all just vanity…

Frankly, I don’t care what your story is….

We are either saved by the blood of Christ, as scripture states.

Or we choose not to believe scripture…

You have chosen some weird personal mix…

Cool…

Just don’t be surprised when Christians shun your message.

.
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I'm not comparing myself, but that is EXACTLY what Yahshua experienced when He brought his message. A few heard... the majority rejected it vehemently. BeCOZ it was not what they'd been taught.

You may not hear my message, and most here especially on GLP, don't and won't. But there is someone out there who does...... who will start to think for themself, ask questions.... seek from the Father.

Much peace and love to you......
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Your message denies the preeminent need for a savior.

It completely misses the mark from a biblical perspective

It does not align with Christian views..

No surprise you have bad experiences with many who do believe in the absolute need for a saviors…

You cannot read the whole of the Bible and miss that foundation tenant.

I am happy to chat, but let’s be honest when we chat.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65571479


Are you accusing me of dishonesty?

I was raised Roman Catholic, became non-denom Protestant for many years, became a Messianic for several more years... began to see things in the scripts and teachings that 1) were NOT of a loving Creator Father, and 2) contradictory to each other, over and over and over again. So, I began to ask questions of the Father, and seek HIS guidance, rather than indoctrination of humans.

It's mind blowing......

Scripture says it is not possible for the blood of one man to redeem another. It's not a "Savior" that we need...... we needed to be shown the Way to the Father. Which is what Yahshua came to do.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


No, I am saying you ought to know why Christians push against your philosophy and not use it as some kind of weapon… or crutch… or excuses to accuse one fallen man against another fallen man…. It’s all just vanity…

Frankly, I don’t care what your story is….

We are either saved by the blood of Christ, as scripture states.

Or we choose not to believe scripture…

You have chosen some weird personal mix…

Cool…

Just don’t be surprised when Christians shun your message.

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I'm not comparing myself, but that is EXACTLY what Yahshua experienced when He brought his message. A few heard... the majority rejected it vehemently. BeCOZ it was not what they'd been taught.

You may not hear my message, and most here especially on GLP, don't and won't. But there is someone out there who does...... who will start to think for themself, ask questions.... seek from the Father.

Much peace and love to you......
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Perhaps they have the same message to give to you…

In fact, everyone is right in their own eyes…

So you are not unique or special in that regard… :)


Truth is not a what…

It is a who…

And if you have The Who, you have the truth…

And you can rest in the confidence and power of that truth..

Simple..

Easy peazy lemon squeezy…

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Here's the same question and Jesus's answer.

Luke 18:18-32

18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.

21 And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.

22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

23 And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.

24 And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!

25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

26 And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved?

27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

28 Then Peter said, Lo, we have left all, and followed thee.

29 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God's sake,

30 Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.

31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.

32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:

33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.
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Are you accusing me of dishonesty?

I was raised Roman Catholic, became non-denom Protestant for many years, became a Messianic for several more years... began to see things in the scripts and teachings that 1) were NOT of a loving Creator Father, and 2) contradictory to each other, over and over and over again. So, I began to ask questions of the Father, and seek HIS guidance, rather than indoctrination of humans.

It's mind blowing......

Scripture says it is not possible for the blood of one man to redeem another. It's not a "Savior" that we need...... we needed to be shown the Way to the Father. Which is what Yahshua came to do.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


No, I am saying you ought to know why Christians push against your philosophy and not use it as some kind of weapon… or crutch… or excuses to accuse one fallen man against another fallen man…. It’s all just vanity…

Frankly, I don’t care what your story is….

We are either saved by the blood of Christ, as scripture states.

Or we choose not to believe scripture…

You have chosen some weird personal mix…

Cool…

Just don’t be surprised when Christians shun your message.

.
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I'm not comparing myself, but that is EXACTLY what Yahshua experienced when He brought his message. A few heard... the majority rejected it vehemently. BeCOZ it was not what they'd been taught.

You may not hear my message, and most here especially on GLP, don't and won't. But there is someone out there who does...... who will start to think for themself, ask questions.... seek from the Father.

Much peace and love to you......
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Perhaps they have the same message to give to you…

In fact, everyone is right in their own eyes…

So you are not unique or special in that regard… :)


Truth is not a what…

It is a who…

And if you have The Who, you have the truth…

And you can rest in the confidence and power of that truth..

Simple..

Easy peazy lemon squeezy…

.
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Never said I'm special.

I did say I'm the child of father creator and not a damned soul.

I do have the Who.

Peace
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WRONG.

It does NOT say "SOMEBODY".

It says "BROTHER".

The preceding verses all have to do with addressing one's BROTHER. Not "somebody".

The three examples of Jesus calling people fools, he is not addressing a brother.

Next?
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the text you posted wouldn't attach. Referring to Matthew 5:22, you said, "whoever calls somebody a fool is in danger of hell fire"...

WRONG.

It does NOT say "SOMEBODY".

It says "BROTHER".

The preceding verses all have to do with addressing one's BROTHER. Not "somebody".

The three examples of Jesus calling people fools, he is not addressing a brother.

Next?
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I have read the bible..... several times. When I was still a christian, I debated ad nauseum the scriptures with other christians.. There's so much divisiness among christians as to what this verse means or doesn't, how this verse trumps that one.... there is no unity. There's very little love.... I left discussions in tears more than once because of the vitriolic hatred among those who claim to follow the 10 commandments.

When I read scriptures, on my own, without someone else feeling the need to tell me what it all meant... only when I opened my heart to truly receive the truth of the message, was I able to receive it.

Now when I try to share it, I am receiving the same types of response from chrisitans who claim to "love God with all their heart"

Your replies are kind hearted and well intentioned. I appreciate your interaction.
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Your message denies the preeminent need for a savior.

It completely misses the mark from a biblical perspective

It does not align with Christian views..

No surprise you have bad experiences with many who do believe in the absolute need for a saviors…

You cannot read the whole of the Bible and miss that foundation tenant.

I am happy to chat, but let’s be honest when we chat.

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Are you accusing me of dishonesty?

I was raised Roman Catholic, became non-denom Protestant for many years, became a Messianic for several more years... began to see things in the scripts and teachings that 1) were NOT of a loving Creator Father, and 2) contradictory to each other, over and over and over again. So, I began to ask questions of the Father, and seek HIS guidance, rather than indoctrination of humans.

It's mind blowing......

Scripture says it is not possible for the blood of one man to redeem another. It's not a "Savior" that we need...... we needed to be shown the Way to the Father. Which is what Yahshua came to do.
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You have chosen some weird personal mix…


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I have chosen Him. His Way. His Truth. And yes, it IS personal.... it's supposed to be, yes?

How many times is it asked "Do you know Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior?"

Yes.... it's my personal experience, and it is truth gleaned from truth mixed with lies in the scripts given to us today.
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the death was murder a sacrifice by dark shits.
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100 %
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Did they defeat Him?

Could He not stop them?
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the death was murder a sacrifice by dark shits.
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100 %
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Did they defeat Him?

Could He not stop them?
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He said he could.. I believe him. The question is why did hee choose not to.

He didn't do it to be the one thing he taught against..blood sacrifice
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Luke 10:25-28

When asked by the lawyer how to attain eternal life, Jesus let him answer his own question which was written in the Law.

Jesus then confirmed his answer by saying "do this and you will live."

Nothing was said about the need to accept his sacrificial death... nothing was said about a cross.... nothing was said that you must believe in Himself.

Was he confused? or did he lie?

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This is for discussion purposes only.... I'm not seeking arguments from anyone here that will bring in other scripture, allegories, being accused of taking Jesus' statement out of context. I'm just hoping someone might go "hmmmmmmmmmm"
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That was only one verse of the bible. When you see a paragraph written do you only read 3 words then write a review?
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Luke 10:25-28

When asked by the lawyer how to attain eternal life, Jesus let him answer his own question which was written in the Law.

Jesus then confirmed his answer by saying "do this and you will live."

Nothing was said about the need to accept his sacrificial death... nothing was said about a cross.... nothing was said that you must believe in Himself.

Was he confused? or did he lie?

***

This is for discussion purposes only.... I'm not seeking arguments from anyone here that will bring in other scripture, allegories, being accused of taking Jesus' statement out of context. I'm just hoping someone might go "hmmmmmmmmmm"
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That was only one verse of the bible. When you see a paragraph written do you only read 3 words then write a review?
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I read His words. That's what is meaningful.
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the death was murder a sacrifice by dark shits.
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100 %
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Did they defeat Him?

Could He not stop them?
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He said he could.. I believe him. The question is why did hee choose not to.

He didn't do it to be the one thing he taught against..blood sacrifice
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The entire Bible tells you why.

You don't believe it.
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Did they defeat Him?

Could He not stop them?
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He said he could.. I believe him. The question is why did hee choose not to.

He didn't do it to be the one thing he taught against..blood sacrifice
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The entire Bible tells you why.

You don't believe it.
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The bible tells me he taught against blood sacrifice. I believe it.
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You can say you were a Catholic and you can say you were in a non-denominational church and you can say you were Messianic and you can say you read The Bible.

None of that necessarily means you ever really believed in Jesus Christ.

Clearly, you didn't..
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Did they defeat Him?

Could He not stop them?
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He said he could.. I believe him. The question is why did hee choose not to.

He didn't do it to be the one thing he taught against..blood sacrifice
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The entire Bible tells you why.

You don't believe it.
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The bible tells me he taught against blood sacrifice. I believe it.
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What is the purpose of this episode in very early in The Bible?


Now it came to pass after these things that God tested Abraham, and said to him, "Abraham!" And he said, "Here I am."

Then He said, "Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you."

So Abraham rose early in the morning and saddled his donkey, and took two of his young men with him, and Isaac his son; and he split the wood for the burnt offering, and arose and went to the place of which God had told him.

Then on the third day Abraham lifted his eyes and saw the place afar off.

And Abraham said to his young men, "Stay here with the donkey; the lad and I will go yonder and worship, and we will come back to you."

So Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering and laid it on Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife, and the two of them went together.

But Isaac spoke to Abraham his father and said, "My father!" And he said, "Here I am, my son." Then he said, "Look, the fire and the wood, but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?"

And Abraham said, "My son, God will provide for Himself the lamb for a burnt offering." So the two of them went together.

Then they came to the place of which God had told him. And Abraham built an altar there and placed the wood in order; and he bound Isaac his son and laid him on the altar, upon the wood.

And Abraham stretched out his hand and took the knife to slay his son.

But the Angel of the LORD called to him from heaven and said, "Abraham, Abraham!" So he said, "Here I am."

And He said, "Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me."

Then Abraham lifted his eyes and looked, and there behind him was a ram caught in a thicket by its horns. So Abraham went and took the ram, and offered it up for a burnt offering instead of his son.

And Abraham called the name of the place, The-LORD-Will-Provide; as it is said to this day, "In the Mount of the LORD it shall be provided."

Then the Angel of the LORD called to Abraham a second time out of heaven,

and said: "By Myself I have sworn, says the LORD, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, your only son—

"blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies.

"In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice."


Genesis 22:1-18





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