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Are they guilty of something? I haven’t followed the case.
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4 counts involuntary manslaughter - each

That's charged with. Not guilty as of yet because they haven't been tried.
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Wow. That’s gotta hurt. They will be doing time for that I would assume. Thanks
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Who diy kill. And how?

I’m confused....
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“Who did they” kill

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Burying the family silver etc before Jeffery Figer can deposition them about their assets
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4 counts involuntary manslaughter - each

That's charged with. Not guilty as of yet because they haven't been tried.
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Wow. That’s gotta hurt. They will be doing time for that I would assume. Thanks
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Who diy kill. And how?

I’m confused....
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“Who did they” kill

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They bought a pistol for an underage mentally ill 15 year old idiot.
They lied about his possession of it.

In my opinion they are completely at fault, it's not a child's staring weapon, and that's that.
The only possible excuse is that the sig 2022 sight picture is a little different than normal factory sight alignment but not enough so that a case can be claimed that it was responsible for accidentally and unintentionally resulted in unintentional bullet impact.
In fact people unfamiliar with that particular weapon complain that the point of impact is lower than expected.
The unique sight alignment was how the French intelligence agency wanted it, the fucking frogs always have to be different just to be different.
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Wow. That’s gotta hurt. They will be doing time for that I would assume. Thanks
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Who diy kill. And how?

I’m confused....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79928222


“Who did they” kill

Edit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79928222


They bought a pistol for an underage mentally ill 15 year old idiot.
They lied about his possession of it.

In my opinion they are completely at fault, it's not a child's staring weapon, and that's that.
The only possible excuse is that the sig 2022 sight picture is a little different than normal factory sight alignment but not enough so that a case can be claimed that it was responsible for accidentally and unintentionally resulted in unintentional bullet impact.
In fact people unfamiliar with that particular weapon complain that the point of impact is lower than expected.
The unique sight alignment was how the French intelligence agency wanted it, the fucking frogs always have to be different just to be different.
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Can you please provide proof, a link, that the parents purchased the gun for the kid? I have not read that.

I'm confused. I read that the father bought the gun for himself, and the kid falsely bragged on social media that it was his.
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Who diy kill. And how?

I’m confused....
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“Who did they” kill

Edit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79928222


They bought a pistol for an underage mentally ill 15 year old idiot.
They lied about his possession of it.

In my opinion they are completely at fault, it's not a child's staring weapon, and that's that.
The only possible excuse is that the sig 2022 sight picture is a little different than normal factory sight alignment but not enough so that a case can be claimed that it was responsible for accidentally and unintentionally resulted in unintentional bullet impact.
In fact people unfamiliar with that particular weapon complain that the point of impact is lower than expected.
The unique sight alignment was how the French intelligence agency wanted it, the fucking frogs always have to be different just to be different.
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Can you please provide proof, a link, that the parents purchased the gun for the kid? I have not read that.

I'm confused. I read that the father bought the gun for himself, and the kid falsely bragged on social media that it was his.
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whole story. looks pretty bad for them

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Parents Of MI School Shooting Suspect Deny Fleeing Law Enforcement, Left Town ‘For Their Own Safety’

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“Who did they” kill

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They bought a pistol for an underage mentally ill 15 year old idiot.
They lied about his possession of it.

In my opinion they are completely at fault, it's not a child's staring weapon, and that's that.
The only possible excuse is that the sig 2022 sight picture is a little different than normal factory sight alignment but not enough so that a case can be claimed that it was responsible for accidentally and unintentionally resulted in unintentional bullet impact.
In fact people unfamiliar with that particular weapon complain that the point of impact is lower than expected.
The unique sight alignment was how the French intelligence agency wanted it, the fucking frogs always have to be different just to be different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


Can you please provide proof, a link, that the parents purchased the gun for the kid? I have not read that.

I'm confused. I read that the father bought the gun for himself, and the kid falsely bragged on social media that it was his.
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whole story. looks pretty bad for them

[link to www.npr.org (secure)]
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Thanks! I did find an article....here it is. I had not read this before:
[link to www.clickondetroit.com (secure)]

What's sad is that the school said there were no discipline problems with this boy.

We bought my daughter a rifle when she was 17. That's all she wanted for Christmas that year. She took it to college with her. Her college had classes in riflery. That's the only A she received ....lol.

She and her friends would carry their rifles on their shoulders across campus to the woods and go target shooting. One time she said they even passed a policeman and he told them to have fun.

Maybe times were different then, but this will be another reason for Democrats in Congress to ban guns.

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Who diy kill. And how?

I’m confused....
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“Who did they” kill

Edit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79928222


They bought a pistol for an underage mentally ill 15 year old idiot.
They lied about his possession of it.

In my opinion they are completely at fault, it's not a child's staring weapon, and that's that.
The only possible excuse is that the sig 2022 sight picture is a little different than normal factory sight alignment but not enough so that a case can be claimed that it was responsible for accidentally and unintentionally resulted in unintentional bullet impact.
In fact people unfamiliar with that particular weapon complain that the point of impact is lower than expected.
The unique sight alignment was how the French intelligence agency wanted it, the fucking frogs always have to be different just to be different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


Can you please provide proof, a link, that the parents purchased the gun for the kid? I have not read that.

I'm confused. I read that the father bought the gun for himself, and the kid falsely bragged on social media that it was his.
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The parents posted in in social media
The gun was bought at a gun shop and the ffl form filled out with the parent signing that it was not for a straw purchase.

If you know better, you better prove the parents didnt lie at the FFL dealers, and to the concerned school officials about who had custody of their Christmas gift to their fucked up kid.
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oh.. you found a link, nvm. lol

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A 17-year-old student was charged after video showed her threatening to shoot up her school "like Oxford."

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They bought a pistol for an underage mentally ill 15 year old idiot.
They lied about his possession of it.

In my opinion they are completely at fault, it's not a child's staring weapon, and that's that.
The only possible excuse is that the sig 2022 sight picture is a little different than normal factory sight alignment but not enough so that a case can be claimed that it was responsible for accidentally and unintentionally resulted in unintentional bullet impact.
In fact people unfamiliar with that particular weapon complain that the point of impact is lower than expected.
The unique sight alignment was how the French intelligence agency wanted it, the fucking frogs always have to be different just to be different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


Can you please provide proof, a link, that the parents purchased the gun for the kid? I have not read that.

I'm confused. I read that the father bought the gun for himself, and the kid falsely bragged on social media that it was his.
 Quoting: nutmeg


whole story. looks pretty bad for them

[link to www.npr.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79418416


Thanks! I did find an article....here it is. I had not read this before:
[link to www.clickondetroit.com (secure)]

What's sad is that the school said there were no discipline problems with this boy.

We bought my daughter a rifle when she was 17. That's all she wanted for Christmas that year. She took it to college with her. Her college had classes in riflery. That's the only A she received ....lol.

She and her friends would carry their rifles on their shoulders across campus to the woods and go target shooting. One time she said they even passed a policeman and he told them to have fun.

Maybe times were different then, but this will be another reason for Democrats in Congress to ban guns.
 Quoting: nutmeg


If this is true then it looks bad for them and simply bad for gun rights.

From the NPR link
"Both James and Jennifer Crumbley failed to ask if their son had his gun with him or where his gun was located, and failed to inspect his backpack for the presence of the gun, which he had with him," McDonald said."

"The parents "resisted the idea" of Ethan Crumbley leaving school at that time, McDonald said. Afterward, Crumbley returned to class."

"When the news of the active shooter at Oxford High School had been made public, Jennifer Crumbley texted to her son at 1:22 p.m., 'Ethan, don't do it,' " McDonald said. Fifteen minutes later, James Crumbley called 911 to report that the gun was missing and that it may be his son who committed the school shooting."
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The fact pattern is simple.He couldn't have done this on his own and it's not fully addressed by technicalities about what constitutes notification and threat and who was capable of preventing this mess. If kids were afraid to the point of not attending school that day someone at the shooters home wasn't paying attention.

You can't expect a spoiled suburban geek to be responsible with an instrument of death.

There's no excuse.

There was, by definition no due diligence or supervision but if you want to pretend that wasn't necessary then you can just make anything up as you want
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Why run?
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So in reality the dad bought the gun for his son so he could be a real man. Now the real man will be spending the rest of his life in prison probably along with the dad. And 4 young people are gone forever.
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So in reality the dad bought the gun for his son so he could be a real man. Now the real man will be spending the rest of his life in prison probably along with the dad. And 4 young people are gone forever.
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Did neither of your two dads buy you a gun?
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The fact pattern is simple.He couldn't have done this on his own and it's not fully addressed by technicalities about what constitutes notification and threat and who was capable of preventing this mess. If kids were afraid to the point of not attending school that day someone at the shooters home wasn't paying attention.

You can't expect a spoiled suburban geek to be responsible with an instrument of death.

There's no excuse.

There was, by definition no due diligence or supervision but if you want to pretend that wasn't necessary then you can just make anything up as you want
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Right. I agree. The school should have sent him home and they instead sent him back to class to murder. Murder students that school was entrusted to protect.
Those administrators should get the firing squad, appropriately enough
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A 17-year-old student was charged after video showed her threatening to shoot up her school "like Oxford."

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They got one in Harper Woods too
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The fact pattern is simple.He couldn't have done this on his own and it's not fully addressed by technicalities about what constitutes notification and threat and who was capable of preventing this mess. If kids were afraid to the point of not attending school that day someone at the shooters home wasn't paying attention.

You can't expect a spoiled suburban geek to be responsible with an instrument of death.

There's no excuse.

There was, by definition no due diligence or supervision but if you want to pretend that wasn't necessary then you can just make anything up as you want
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


Right. I agree. The school should have sent him home and they instead sent him back to class to murder. Murder students that school was entrusted to protect.
Those administrators should get the firing squad, appropriately enough
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Your immature attempt at sarcasm and false equivalence is duly noted
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A 17-year-old student was charged after video showed her threatening to shoot up her school "like Oxford."

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If she's black they'll let her go and say it was art.

I'd have to hear it but I doubt it was a specific threat and actually was just art. I need context. If this was a crime then 90% of black rappers would be in jail
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A 17-year-old student was charged after video showed her threatening to shoot up her school "like Oxford."

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They got one in Harper Woods too
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Harper Woods isn't what it used to be for some time
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Why run?
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Hiding the collectables, stashed cash jewelry and nontraceable valuables somewhere.
Wouldn't you?
I don't think home insurance is going to cover this.
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The fact pattern is simple.He couldn't have done this on his own and it's not fully addressed by technicalities about what constitutes notification and threat and who was capable of preventing this mess. If kids were afraid to the point of not attending school that day someone at the shooters home wasn't paying attention.

You can't expect a spoiled suburban geek to be responsible with an instrument of death.

There's no excuse.

There was, by definition no due diligence or supervision but if you want to pretend that wasn't necessary then you can just make anything up as you want
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626437


Right. I agree. The school should have sent him home and they instead sent him back to class to murder. Murder students that school was entrusted to protect.
Those administrators should get the firing squad, appropriately enough
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No sarcasm. I blame the school too. There's more than enough blame to go around.

The parents were incredibly reckless and aren't squirming out of this one.
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Can you please provide proof, a link, that the parents purchased the gun for the kid? I have not read that.

I'm confused. I read that the father bought the gun for himself, and the kid falsely bragged on social media that it was his.
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In a presser today, the DA read from the mother's text messages to her son and one of the exchanges was about the gun, and she said, "Merry Christmas".

You should watch the entire presser. The text and social messages by the mom that the DA read were shocking.

One from the mom said something like 'you should learn not to get caught".

Bad genes.

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The guy looks like a grown up Steve Smith from American Dad.
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The teacher had a photo of the drawing on her phone. So they saw the, what should have been, alarming photo

Why didn't the school search his backpack?

Why isn't anybody questioning why the school would send him back to class?

I think the answer is, it's a standing policy to never send a kid home unless they have no other choice. School loses gov $$$ that way





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