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BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 12/04/2021 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who would want to work for anything less? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78846510 Even 20 an hour is peanuts. You are paid what you are worth, and a minimum wage job isn't worth $20/hr... Ah yes, but if you need a body to do the job, then their worth to you is priceless. Not when ANY-body can do the job, then its value drops exponentially... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 12/04/2021 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im 44 and can drop a 70ft tree in between to old ladies having lunch together without knocking a sandwich out either of their hands . Im just kinda ugly and have a bad attitude ....heard the word caveman more than a few times ... So I just will never get ahead . That's ok . If I wasn't broke I just wouldn't be me . If you enjoy what you do then maybe it’s worth it. I don’t think I would like working fast food for 17. Maybe if I was a teen. So they need to pay more there to get people to work. Maybe look for something that pays more if you get tired of what you do. Maybe start your own tree business. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 12/04/2021 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For whatever it's worth I have a cousin who works at Taco Bell making 18 an hour. Not management or anything. Just works the drive through. Nothing special. And he still watched 14 people walkout at once. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79706857 Yup. People won’t work for slave wages anymore. Don’t blame them. |
some_guy89704
User ID: 80550127 United States 12/04/2021 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have to offer someone $20/hr to get them to go to work...? Quoting: Sangre Pura Or in other words, The MINIMUM people are willing to accept to actually get off their ass and DO something... In my opinion, that makes it the minimum wage. Am I right? In a perfect world of people, perhaps....but this isn't a perfect world of people. Actually, in a perfect world of people, there wouldn't be a system of money controlling us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80974703 United States 12/04/2021 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Says the big voice for Humanity....:billlaugh: What I want to know is, why is it anyone else's place to decide what a person is "worth"?....their WORTH? Seriously? There is more to life than making money, and our value greatly exceeds whether or not we can earn a LIVING wage....especially per someone else's ideologies. Its someone elses place to decide because they have the money you want. At a certain point its just not worth it to pay you to help me. Ill just do it myself and keep all the money. I can answer my own phone and clean my own toilets...What I really needed when I was working, were skilled and dependable employees... Problem as I see it is your generation are selfish and lazy and dont want to train anyone anymore. If it didn't benefit you directly you weren't interested . Now everyone just expects you to fall out of your mothers ass with 5 years experience . or some piece of paper from a 10k + school you cant afford making 15-20 /hr cause life. I offered to work for FREE until they thought I was ready to go on the books , for a welding company , sign a liability waver so they werent responsible if Id got hurt and had 2 vehicles and a motorcycle so id get there no matter what and they turned it down cause they didnt want to train me . everyone has a nice story because people actually trained you when you were a kid now youve all gotten fat and lazy and refuse to pass the knowledge on down .... So now you have a bunch of people that dont know anything . That you enjoy trashing .....because youre lazy and refused to train them . Whatever , I have no wife or kids and 17/hr gets me by and ill be bumped up to 22/hr soon and ill make it . Barely but ill make it . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 12/04/2021 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For whatever it's worth I have a cousin who works at Taco Bell making 18 an hour. Not management or anything. Just works the drive through. Nothing special. And he still watched 14 people walkout at once. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79706857 Lol! Does anyone remember the huge lines to fill out applications at taco hell during the Obama era? I feel as though we’re going to see that again! I think people are done slaving away. Figuring out out to live with less and having more free time. Having a lot of stuff and big homes isn’t a top priority for many. Hanging out with friends and family or just yourself is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79706857 United States 12/04/2021 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | awww, brief isn't so bad. Actually pretty much on point most of the time. But I've been here for a long time. Sometimes he can be somewhat of an asshole but he probably just as I did that being a nice guy doesn't do shit for you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79706857 I used to be in that victim complex too but eventually you grow up and take what you want by any means necessary. End of the day he is doing well while the people bitching about him usually aren't. I don't take what I want, I find the win/win and people throw money at me...All of my advice has been time tested and proven to work... We all have our methods. We adapt and use what works for us. Your way isn't necessarily everyone's way. We can read and study the most successful people ever and still not have it work. I think if we can strip away all the equation we just end up with do the work. It really is that simple. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 12/04/2021 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have to offer someone $20/hr to get them to go to work...? Quoting: Sangre Pura Or in other words, The MINIMUM people are willing to accept to actually get off their ass and DO something... In my opinion, that makes it the minimum wage. Am I right? Soon! every fast food restaurant will become automated and they will only employ 2 people, one to run the cash register and one to box up the burger... Think about it!! more people will become unemployed as a result of skyrocketing inflation!! And who will buy their crappy fast food then? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 12/04/2021 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then you have all the cucked home owners, thinking they are rich as the banks who own their notes and lock them down in podunk county X, are their secret weapon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80708328 "You min wage dummies don't know how to use the banks" Oh no actually telling them to get fucked, is the right path, but enjoy your days. You are a slave to a bank...I bought my home for cash 30 years ago... 30 years ago everything was easier and cheaper. I was there also. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81028745 United States 12/04/2021 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It may be the new minimum people work for. It's not how you destroy a currency. You do that buy printing new money into existence. Various factors come into play. 1 government borrows money 2 business borrows money 3 consumers borrow money Each of those 3 prints money into existence. Each of those are inflationary. Higher wages are not. At least not in the destruction of the currency sense. Higher wages doesn't create money out of nowhere. Higher wages are the result of the 3 listed above. The destruction already happened. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 12/04/2021 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In fact RV park managers, Temp agencies and payday loan places are all legit targets imo, when this rolls up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80708328 You have to see the future in a fun light, and I do. Lol whatbdobRV park managers havw to do with anything in the world? They offer people who don’t want to live the conventional way an option. |
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FeedYourHead
User ID: 77416429 United States 12/04/2021 09:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have to offer someone $20/hr to get them to go to work...? Quoting: Sangre Pura Or in other words, The MINIMUM people are willing to accept to actually get off their ass and DO something... In my opinion, that makes it the minimum wage. Am I right? Yep....a local In and Out Burger near me is now offering $20 an hour to start! I saw a Jack in the Box with a $300 sign on bonus. Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 12/04/2021 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who would want to work for anything less? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78846510 Even 20 an hour is peanuts. You are paid what you are worth, and a minimum wage job isn't worth $20/hr... Ah yes, but if you need a body to do the job, then their worth to you is priceless. Not when ANY-body can do the job, then its value drops exponentially... The thing is anybody can work fast food but not many want to do it. So they have to pay people more or they walk. |
FeedYourHead
User ID: 77416429 United States 12/04/2021 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who would want to work for anything less? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78846510 Even 20 an hour is peanuts. You ain't entirely wrong But for entry level positions, can the economy afford it? Seems to me, if you wanted to destroy a currency, this is how you do it. It's all just MONOPOLY money anyway. If you look back in history you will find repeatedly when the minimum wages increase inflation goes up right along with them. Now how silly is all of this? People demand a higher wage but when the achieve it costs for everything go up....where is the raise? All in our pathetic little minds.....and our masters continue their sinister laughs as they watch the show.... Ask Alice when she's 10ft tall This is a battle for the future of civilization. If free speech is lost even in America, tyranny is all that lies ahead. Elon Musk |
BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 12/04/2021 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then you have all the cucked home owners, thinking they are rich as the banks who own their notes and lock them down in podunk county X, are their secret weapon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80708328 "You min wage dummies don't know how to use the banks" Oh no actually telling them to get fucked, is the right path, but enjoy your days. You are a slave to a bank...I bought my home for cash 30 years ago... 30 years ago everything was easier and cheaper. I was there also. No, it was the same with a bit less technology...Work = money and always will... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 12/04/2021 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ah yes, but if you need a body to do the job, then their worth to you is priceless. Not when ANY-body can do the job, then its value drops exponentially... The thing is anybody can work fast food but not many want to do it. So they have to pay people more or they walk. That's how the market determines the worth/wage of the worker, not some bureaucrat who has never worked a real job in their life...That's the reason there should be no minimum wage... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 12/04/2021 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then you have all the cucked home owners, thinking they are rich as the banks who own their notes and lock them down in podunk county X, are their secret weapon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80708328 "You min wage dummies don't know how to use the banks" Oh no actually telling them to get fucked, is the right path, but enjoy your days. You are a slave to a bank...I bought my home for cash 30 years ago... 30 years ago everything was easier and cheaper. I was there also. No, it was the same with a bit less technology...Work = money and always will... It was so much easier back then. They had full time with benefits then. And overtime. As a young 20 something I could have worked a regular full time job with no experience and had a cool studio apartment in downtown Orlando overlooking lake Eola. Jobs were plentiful. Rents were cheap. It was a fun time. No lib agenda. But things change and we roll with it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66593653 United States 12/04/2021 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless you don’t die and get so sick from the jabs you can’t work. And can’t even get disability. That’s the nightmare for many now. Death would be great compared to that. Jesus Christ man. We are going to have to figure out how to run the electrical and water pumps. We will be ok. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 12/04/2021 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77091287 Ah yes, but if you need a body to do the job, then their worth to you is priceless. Not when ANY-body can do the job, then its value drops exponentially... The thing is anybody can work fast food but not many want to do it. So they have to pay people more or they walk. That's how the market determines the worth/wage of the worker, not some bureaucrat who has never worked a real job in their life...That's the reason there should be no minimum wage... Yeah I do agree with that. But even with minimum wage they are having to offer more to get people to work. And stay. So there is no minimum wage anymore. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81139911 12/04/2021 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have to offer someone $20/hr to get them to go to work...? Quoting: Sangre Pura Or in other words, The MINIMUM people are willing to accept to actually get off their ass and DO something... In my opinion, that makes it the minimum wage. Am I right? here the minimum wage is working immigrants. there everywhere, there here to work for 6 months then they leave while a new batch arrives |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 12/04/2021 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless you don’t die and get so sick from the jabs you can’t work. And can’t even get disability. That’s the nightmare for many now. Death would be great compared to that. Jesus Christ man. We are going to have to figure out how to run the electrical and water pumps. We will be ok. Yeah. There will be enough people who survive who can train others. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79543875 United States 12/04/2021 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless you don’t die and get so sick from the jabs you can’t work. And can’t even get disability. That’s the nightmare for many now. Death would be great compared to that. Jesus Christ man. We are going to have to figure out how to run the electrical and water pumps. We will be ok. Yeah. There will be enough people who survive who can train others. Also I have to believe at least half were given saline. So there’s hope. |
Anonymous Bartererish User ID: 80002241 Germany 12/04/2021 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You shits waste the Lord's time BRIEF is all set in place, he won't be mobile he will never help any fight for the good. However, in my case we are mobile, and ready to fight. I haul ammo. Any employer who will pay me in good ammo knows I can trade a box of .223 any day for tins of spam cans of ham, etc. GET REAL REAL QUICK |
BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 12/04/2021 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You shits waste the Lord's time Quoting: Anonymous Bartererish 80002241 BRIEF is all set in place, he won't be mobile he will never help any fight for the good. However, in my case we are mobile, and ready to fight. I haul ammo. Any employer who will pay me in good ammo knows I can trade a box of .223 any day for tins of spam cans of ham, etc. GET REAL REAL QUICK :12 ga: We're ready... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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cosmicgypsy
User ID: 80037766 United States 12/04/2021 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who would want to work for anything less? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78846510 Even 20 an hour is peanuts. You are paid what you are worth, and a minimum wage job isn't worth $20/hr... Says the big voice for Humanity.... What I want to know is, why is it anyone else's place to decide what a person is "worth"?....their WORTH? Seriously? There is more to life than making money, and our value greatly exceeds whether or not we can earn a LIVING wage....especially per someone else's ideologies. No, your value to society is the wage you earn...The only way to make money is by helping other people, the very least you can do is selfishly work the minimum and complain about not getting paid more...Again, the only way to make money is by helping someone else... Learn something valuable that will help more people or help them more than asking if they want fries with that... I know how the system works, Brief. I am educated, in multiple ways. My post was bred out of my disgust for the system, and I put you in my line of fire. I apologize for that. But I can't embrace the money system we have here, and you have fully embraced it. Heh, it's kinda a conflict of interests....that's all. Have a great weekend!.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |