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An Ominous Encounter In The Astral Plane

 
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Ive had hundreds obe. Fought shadow man 5 nights in a row in 2000. Killed two succubi. Now I sefl medicate with weed to turn it all off. Went on a trip, ran out of weed. Had dream large rainbow tornadoes tried to suck me out of a house, then after they destroyed the valley, I got in a severe gun fight with bad guys. Fuck this shit.
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My skirmishes with shadow man began end of 96. Many other battles with lesser entities but shadow man followed me for 10 years at least. Might still be lurking, I dunno. Also turned it off with weed.
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Whether you know it yet or not... believe it or not...
While there are truths in many of the world's major organized religions today... there are some inherent problems with them... those with eyes to see, know exactly that to which I refer here. most of them, if not all of them, have a root basis in FEAR. Unconditional Love (aka that which makes up the one true creator) is NOT based out of fear.

Let that sink in for a bit. PONDER it really hard for awhile...

IF God is Love... and Love (the real kind that is unconditional) is not based out of fear... WHAT DOES THAT SAY about the world's religions?

What could it mean?

WHAT is FEAR used for primarily in the world?

What has it ALWAYS been used for?

If you guessed Control.. Give yourself a pat on the back! You figured it out.
hesright
hf
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OP, I think you just ran into a soul farm controller.

Just a bot.

Or a human who sided with bots.

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I came here to share this with you:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

In Joy! hf

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Can you offer any tips on lucid dreaming / astral projection?

Thank you! abduct
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I used to fly all the time in my dreams. I would fly over the ocean and fly onto a huge white ship. The ship was filled with women and children all bunched together everywhere crying!
Same reoccurring dream for years.

The one time I was aware of leaving my body, I ended up in a white room.
I tried to get out and couldn’t. Once I calmed down, one side of the room opened, and I was told to leave. I then walked out into “dream world”

I always wondered if these were dreams or real. They felt real.

Does weed really stop this? It would make sense since when I don’t smoke, weird shit happens.....like the following....

I woke up paralyzed once, and my head was forced to turn to left of me, where I encountered a face floating. It turned to look at me, then smiled. I got my feeling back and it disappeared.
Wtf was that!?
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I did a lot of that when I was younger and lived cleaner.

Also experienced enlightenment twice. Once through the heart chakra and the next time was through the crown chakra.

I was impressed with my ability to achieve it through the crown chakra because it was all my doing and I accomplished it within only a few hours time.

My belief is that illumination is achieved when all chakras are enlightened at the same time.

I don't fully understand the use of it though.

I have also experienced dangerous astral areas as well. All I can say and you probably know this well, is that it's largely unexplored territory.

Happy hunting brother.
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Whether you know it yet or not... believe it or not...
While there are truths in many of the world's major organized religions today... there are some inherent problems with them... those with eyes to see, know exactly that to which I refer here. most of them, if not all of them, have a root basis in FEAR. Unconditional Love (aka that which makes up the one true creator) is NOT based out of fear.

Let that sink in for a bit. PONDER it really hard for awhile...

IF God is Love... and Love (the real kind that is unconditional) is not based out of fear... WHAT DOES THAT SAY about the world's religions?

What could it mean?

WHAT is FEAR used for primarily in the world?

What has it ALWAYS been used for?

If you guessed Control.. Give yourself a pat on the back! You figured it out.
hesright
hf
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That's actually the realization I had as a child when I was going to church.

I was about 10 when I began to question things. The point that changed me was that they said that you God was love but you had to fear him. I was unable to do those two states of mind at the same time.

So that was the beginning of my journey into questioning things. I lived through a lot of turmoil because I was worried that I was not being a good Christian.
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OP. I have these experiences as well. I occasionally post these online. Here is a exert from one of these writes ups.

From my own experiences, light(s) usually represents an aspect of conscious intent. Perhaps this will help you interpret what you observed?

//edited for an additional paragraph

All living structures resonate with intention and possess a purposeful will to exist, within the living quantum field, producing a collective global or cosmic subconscious realm that exists in parallel with our conscious abstract perception. One who possesses the awareness can tap into this subconscious realm to literally visualize purposeful intent. From my own experience, the natural ecosystem of the world has a somewhat benign state of purposeful intent as it’s all in synchronous balance. Once human intent enters into the equation, the benign natural world reformulates into a human altered paradigm with a distinctive purpose. Don’t get me wrong here, all living structures have purposeful intent, but on this domain of Earth, humans have orders of magnitude more impact on the outcome of living structure.

To illustrate what I’m speaking about so it can be properly visualized. I once had an [out-of-body] remote projection here in NWA sometime in the Summer of 1991. This was before Interstate 49 had actually broken ground from Fayetteville to Alma. As I explored the area, looking South, I could see the mountains blanketed with trees. The landscape glowed in vibrant hues of bright green that had a somewhat benign quality associated with it. Cutting through the trees and forests were existing roads and structures. The roads were full of static-like electricity and had a pinkish-red appearance which jettisoned upwards - similar to how hair stands up to static electricity. The wider the road, the further into the atmosphere the static tendrils rose from the landscape. Unknown to me at the time, a neighbor [rural area] was planning a new driveway, and I saw a vivid bright pinkish-red static glow precisely where the driveway would eventually be bulldozed a month or so later. Additionally, looking over the hill to the West from where I was located, where I49 is currently located today, I saw [what can only be described] as a massive gouge in the Earth heading South over the mountains. The static tendrils were significantly more intense, extending much higher into the atmosphere and were fiery red in color. This path carving through the mountains had the appearance of a wound or an inflamed cut. What I saw were the intentions of roads and highways in the planning stages but had not yet manifested into physical changes.

The objective of this write up is to bring awareness to broader knowledge and understanding, no matter how well concealed or censored, is always accessible in the quantum-mind domain and resonates through the continuum of potential, whether we’re consciously aware of it or not. The mind is a focal point, an intersection of conscious perception that’s directly coupled into the quantum. The mind is the quantum and the quantum is the mind, there is no escaping this fundamental fact of reality. Once an idea with intentful purpose begins to change the conscious and subconscious fields, it’s accessible to individuals or beings that have awareness, lest we willfully choose to ignore it or our [beliefs] mandate us to reject it.
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Preface: I'm a "dreamwalker" with a fair amount of experience in exploring the astral and etheric levels of our world through deliberate lucid dreams. About 90% of my dreams are lucid. I will occasionally have true OOBEs (out-of-body experiences) such as the one I had this afternoon, documented for posterity and analysis. I had a run-in with a strange entity inside a local church and I am curious what you will make of it.

Leaving my body, I scanned the large city I live in, and immediately was drawn to a large gothic style catholic church some ways away. Entering through the doors, I saw an entrancing light shimmering through the stained glass windows that I would never have seen in the physical. It was a living, moving current that pulsed like electricity, but was of a golden yellow color and appeared to move in shapes quite like an integrated circuit such as on the back of a microchip. There were only a few people in the church, mostly clergy in their robes, but I paid little attention to them. Instead I began climbing the staircase off of the foyer to see how high it went. It led me to the top of the balcony sitting atop the main hall and behind the pews where I noticed another door that wasn't in the physical world.

Going through it, I found a room that was bigger than the entire physical church and was hit with an ominous feeling. It appeared as a giant derelict factory with musty air and suspension cables running above a bottomless floor with more such cables traversing the room below as far as the eye could see. I noticed that on the cables hung some sort of suspended "baskets" although they looked more like a cross between a hammock and a sleeping bag, each one capable of accommodating a full human body. As I turned to leave, I saw that the door had disappeared, but the threshold had not. However it now led to a dark but luxuriously furnished bedroom in which stood a woman. She was smiling softy, rather beautiful, blonde, and about mid-forties from what I could see. If I had to draw comparison between her and a familiar face, I'd say that she somewhat resembled the actress Lucy Lawless. Suddenly without any action of my own, I found myself in one of the baskets in the factory room I had just left. Immediately I could feel that some sort of mind control being applied to me and I noticed something was attempting to extract energy from my lower chakras. I felt pacified, unafraid and being gently pushed to comply, while the entire time I could still sense the woman's presence.

Luckily, I'm very difficult to control - my true will stepped in and broke the hold.I made a "jump" to what I presumed was the ground floor outside the church. Instead, I appeared to be in a transportation terminal at the physical level nearby. It was crowded with many people, all wearing their masks. I was surprised when the crowd appeared to actually notice me! Normally you are invisible in the astral to physical folk. Immediately, a young girl pointed at me and said, "mom, he's not wearing his mask!" This clearly wasn't the physical world anymore so I turned and hid behind a column and manifested a large jacket and a face covering to blend in.

Pushing through the mass of people and frequently excusing myself, I got to the door of the terminal and went outside to the street. It greatly resembled my physical city and I could see many grocery stores along the main street with words written in Spanish. Having had enough of this, I readied myself to make the jump back to my body only to be pulled into an abstract space - intercepted by the same woman from before! She tried to wipe my memories, unsuccessfully. Before I broke free for the second time, I asked her who the hell she was and want she wanted from me. Her answer was ominous, although she spoke it with a calm sonorous voice and a soft smile - "You'll find out soon enough".

What the hell is up with people wearing masks in the astral realm?! Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

Any ideas as to what sort of entity I was dealing with? Another coincidence is that the archontic principality which rules my city is "Lawlessness", similar to the last name of the actress which this female entity resembled.
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Dude, you are obviously living in your own hell right here and right now.
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Preface: I'm a "dreamwalker" with a fair amount of experience in exploring the astral and etheric levels of our world through deliberate lucid dreams. About 90% of my dreams are lucid. I will occasionally have true OOBEs (out-of-body experiences) such as the one I had this afternoon, documented for posterity and analysis. I had a run-in with a strange entity inside a local church and I am curious what you will make of it.

Leaving my body, I scanned the large city I live in, and immediately was drawn to a large gothic style catholic church some ways away. Entering through the doors, I saw an entrancing light shimmering through the stained glass windows that I would never have seen in the physical. It was a living, moving current that pulsed like electricity, but was of a golden yellow color and appeared to move in shapes quite like an integrated circuit such as on the back of a microchip. There were only a few people in the church, mostly clergy in their robes, but I paid little attention to them. Instead I began climbing the staircase off of the foyer to see how high it went. It led me to the top of the balcony sitting atop the main hall and behind the pews where I noticed another door that wasn't in the physical world.

Going through it, I found a room that was bigger than the entire physical church and was hit with an ominous feeling. It appeared as a giant derelict factory with musty air and suspension cables running above a bottomless floor with more such cables traversing the room below as far as the eye could see. I noticed that on the cables hung some sort of suspended "baskets" although they looked more like a cross between a hammock and a sleeping bag, each one capable of accommodating a full human body. As I turned to leave, I saw that the door had disappeared, but the threshold had not. However it now led to a dark but luxuriously furnished bedroom in which stood a woman. She was smiling softy, rather beautiful, blonde, and about mid-forties from what I could see. If I had to draw comparison between her and a familiar face, I'd say that she somewhat resembled the actress Lucy Lawless. Suddenly without any action of my own, I found myself in one of the baskets in the factory room I had just left. Immediately I could feel that some sort of mind control being applied to me and I noticed something was attempting to extract energy from my lower chakras. I felt pacified, unafraid and being gently pushed to comply, while the entire time I could still sense the woman's presence.

Luckily, I'm very difficult to control - my true will stepped in and broke the hold.I made a "jump" to what I presumed was the ground floor outside the church. Instead, I appeared to be in a transportation terminal at the physical level nearby. It was crowded with many people, all wearing their masks. I was surprised when the crowd appeared to actually notice me! Normally you are invisible in the astral to physical folk. Immediately, a young girl pointed at me and said, "mom, he's not wearing his mask!" This clearly wasn't the physical world anymore so I turned and hid behind a column and manifested a large jacket and a face covering to blend in.

Pushing through the mass of people and frequently excusing myself, I got to the door of the terminal and went outside to the street. It greatly resembled my physical city and I could see many grocery stores along the main street with words written in Spanish. Having had enough of this, I readied myself to make the jump back to my body only to be pulled into an abstract space - intercepted by the same woman from before! She tried to wipe my memories, unsuccessfully. Before I broke free for the second time, I asked her who the hell she was and want she wanted from me. Her answer was ominous, although she spoke it with a calm sonorous voice and a soft smile - "You'll find out soon enough".

What the hell is up with people wearing masks in the astral realm?! Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

Any ideas as to what sort of entity I was dealing with? Another coincidence is that the archontic principality which rules my city is "Lawlessness", similar to the last name of the actress which this female entity resembled.
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Everyone who participates in Occult activity will go to Hell.
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hesright

Fuck occultists.
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I am most certainly not an "occultist". These abilities of mine are god-given gifts that were not obtained through ritual or contract. I am a servant of The Christ and The True God.
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If this is true, you should be seeking help from God and the bible only

That being said, this is what it reminds me of

Zechariah 5:5-11
1 Peter 2:23

Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

Calm seas do not a sailor make,
Nor easy horses, a horseman.

Nor easy believing, a Christian

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I encountered a similar woman like that.

The woman in your dreams was obviously after your sexual energy from your lower chakras, and that's probably what the hammocks were for.

The woman I encountered was trying to steal my energy by finding a threat that would shock me.

She came into my dream state as an interruption, and found something to try and shock me emotionally, and release my energy.

What she said was, "I see you have lived a 1,000 lives, and you next life will be violent."


9/11 and media events like that are to get people to release their energy, energy they would normally use for what they are trying to achieve with their lives.

Masks are a way of storing up energy in people, because normally their energy is released via their mouths, and the expressions they express with their lower faces. Wearing masks keeps that energy in their heads, to be later released by some major event, like 9/11.

"You'll find out soon enough," will be your release energy, and where all your energy will go focusing on the event.

Before 9/11 I was warned in a dream to isolate myself from all mass media, which I did on a Caribbean beach for six months. I never lost any energy because of 9/11.

Be aware of your life's energy, and where it goes, and what steals it away.

hf
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Ha, those hammocks might have been astral sex-swings? That rather hilarious to think about! But why in a church of all places - did she have a sense of irony... or was there a history of darker sexual activity occurring in that parish which drew her there?
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I have many synchs with that.

A Yucatan friend of mine wrote a book about sex in hammocks.

An ex-girlfriend bough a hammock we could have sex in, and later we had sex in a Cathedral in Montreal. We also had sex on top of a Mayan pyramid, which is like a religious building.

There's a lot of life energy created by doing the unusual. You just have to be careful it doesn't effect others negatively, or steal their energy, because it will create a vacuum that needs to be filled.
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Ah yes, the old metaphysical principals of anti-structure and liminality. Those of us who refuse to conform to the confines of the system are not as constrained by it. The world attempts to collapse your spiritual wavefunction by defining your absolute place within its hierarchy. Outcasts, eccentrics, and those in a state of transition are often privy to the unseen world and supernatural events.
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She is Apathy, but not entirely... A demonic soul vampire - lulling people into fasle comfort and a sense of security, like a spider, and sucking away peoples' will to resist or respond to danger.
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Everyone who participates in Occult activity will go to Hell.
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hesright

Fuck occultists.
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I am most certainly not an "occultist". These abilities of mine are god-given gifts that were not obtained through ritual or contract. I am a servant of The Christ and The True God.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


If this is true, you should be seeking help from God and the bible only

That being said, this is what it reminds me of

Zechariah 5:5-11
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The Bible holds great wisdom, but we must accept the bitter reality that it has been distorted and appropriated by the powers of this world almost since the beginning. Look into the history of Christianity. After Paul met with the early fathers of the first church, the message was modified to make it more accessible to the masses. It was taken by the oligarchs of Rome and reimagined as a social control system predicated on fear of authority and total submission. It has been colored by the hand of man. The Bible is still a holy book, but we must be careful to read it within the context of the real historical truth. The Bible is read with your heart, not your eyes.
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you lost me at "I'm a dreamwalker"

better luck next time

cool story though, bro

next
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hesright

Fuck occultists.
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I am most certainly not an "occultist". These abilities of mine are god-given gifts that were not obtained through ritual or contract. I am a servant of The Christ and The True God.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


If this is true, you should be seeking help from God and the bible only

That being said, this is what it reminds me of

Zechariah 5:5-11
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


The Bible holds great wisdom, but we must accept the bitter reality that it has been distorted and appropriated by the powers of this world almost since the beginning. Look into the history of Christianity. After Paul met with the early fathers of the first church, the message was modified to make it more accessible to the masses. It was taken by the oligarchs of Rome and reimagined as a social control system predicated on fear of authority and total submission. It has been colored by the hand of man. The Bible is still a holy book, but we must be careful to read it within the context of the real historical truth. The Bible is read with your heart, not your eyes.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


The answer that you are looking for is in your statement and Rome is not, and never was the Church.
1 Peter 2:23

Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

Calm seas do not a sailor make,
Nor easy horses, a horseman.

Nor easy believing, a Christian

Proudly deplorable since forever
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hesright

Fuck occultists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75737851


I am most certainly not an "occultist". These abilities of mine are god-given gifts that were not obtained through ritual or contract. I am a servant of The Christ and The True God.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


If this is true, you should be seeking help from God and the bible only

That being said, this is what it reminds me of

Zechariah 5:5-11
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


The Bible holds great wisdom, but we must accept the bitter reality that it has been distorted and appropriated by the powers of this world almost since the beginning. Look into the history of Christianity. After Paul met with the early fathers of the first church, the message was modified to make it more accessible to the masses. It was taken by the oligarchs of Rome and reimagined as a social control system predicated on fear of authority and total submission. It has been colored by the hand of man. The Bible is still a holy book, but we must be careful to read it within the context of the real historical truth. The Bible is read with your heart, not your eyes.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


That goes to the psychology of individuals, an most are incapable of getting past the words, and behaving Christ like.

That's precisely why the scribes changed the words, to match the psychology of the masses, believing they would someday elevate themselves to a higher state if they followed the lessons they set out.

Instead the psychology of individuals focuses on rigid definitions of altered words.

hf
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Astral realm? I just don't know.

Somehow, I go forth in my sleep and use the power of a giant on the real world. But I don't remember my dreams, or they're mostly kind of boring.

And I have no concern for anything but the real world.

I remember getting a kick out of my niece, when she fell through the attic floor into the room below. She was more surprised than hurt, but her mother asked her what she was thinking, and she said she was wishing that she could fly.

I laughed because her thoughts began with the presumption that she couldn't fly. It's better to do what you need to do, without thought. If she had simply spread her arms to fly, she might have stopped her fall through the small hole between rafters.

I'm trying to make the point that it helps to have the right attitude to begin with.

You might have said to the spider woman: "What are you doing here?"

When she gives you a cryptic answer, you could ask: "Shall I set you on fire?"

Why try to blend in with the people on the platform?

A kid says you don't have a mask: "Get used to it, kid."
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It was not until you mentioned jumping did i realize i had a very similar experience last night as well. She had long straight blond hair tied back i believe.
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Preface: I'm a "dreamwalker" with a fair amount of experience in exploring the astral and etheric levels of our world through deliberate lucid dreams. About 90% of my dreams are lucid. I will occasionally have true OOBEs (out-of-body experiences) such as the one I had this afternoon, documented for posterity and analysis. I had a run-in with a strange entity inside a local church and I am curious what you will make of it.

Leaving my body, I scanned the large city I live in, and immediately was drawn to a large gothic style catholic church some ways away. Entering through the doors, I saw an entrancing light shimmering through the stained glass windows that I would never have seen in the physical. It was a living, moving current that pulsed like electricity, but was of a golden yellow color and appeared to move in shapes quite like an integrated circuit such as on the back of a microchip. There were only a few people in the church, mostly clergy in their robes, but I paid little attention to them. Instead I began climbing the staircase off of the foyer to see how high it went. It led me to the top of the balcony sitting atop the main hall and behind the pews where I noticed another door that wasn't in the physical world.

Going through it, I found a room that was bigger than the entire physical church and was hit with an ominous feeling. It appeared as a giant derelict factory with musty air and suspension cables running above a bottomless floor with more such cables traversing the room below as far as the eye could see. I noticed that on the cables hung some sort of suspended "baskets" although they looked more like a cross between a hammock and a sleeping bag, each one capable of accommodating a full human body. As I turned to leave, I saw that the door had disappeared, but the threshold had not. However it now led to a dark but luxuriously furnished bedroom in which stood a woman. She was smiling softy, rather beautiful, blonde, and about mid-forties from what I could see. If I had to draw comparison between her and a familiar face, I'd say that she somewhat resembled the actress Lucy Lawless. Suddenly without any action of my own, I found myself in one of the baskets in the factory room I had just left. Immediately I could feel that some sort of mind control being applied to me and I noticed something was attempting to extract energy from my lower chakras. I felt pacified, unafraid and being gently pushed to comply, while the entire time I could still sense the woman's presence.

Luckily, I'm very difficult to control - my true will stepped in and broke the hold.I made a "jump" to what I presumed was the ground floor outside the church. Instead, I appeared to be in a transportation terminal at the physical level nearby. It was crowded with many people, all wearing their masks. I was surprised when the crowd appeared to actually notice me! Normally you are invisible in the astral to physical folk. Immediately, a young girl pointed at me and said, "mom, he's not wearing his mask!" This clearly wasn't the physical world anymore so I turned and hid behind a column and manifested a large jacket and a face covering to blend in.

Pushing through the mass of people and frequently excusing myself, I got to the door of the terminal and went outside to the street. It greatly resembled my physical city and I could see many grocery stores along the main street with words written in Spanish. Having had enough of this, I readied myself to make the jump back to my body only to be pulled into an abstract space - intercepted by the same woman from before! She tried to wipe my memories, unsuccessfully. Before I broke free for the second time, I asked her who the hell she was and want she wanted from me. Her answer was ominous, although she spoke it with a calm sonorous voice and a soft smile - "You'll find out soon enough".

What the hell is up with people wearing masks in the astral realm?! Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

Any ideas as to what sort of entity I was dealing with? Another coincidence is that the archontic principality which rules my city is "Lawlessness", similar to the last name of the actress which this female entity resembled.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


You have a gift. I abused mine many years ago and my gift was taken. I used to have a trick when I found myself in an awkward situation. You can choose to realize that you are totally indestructible and raise your hands and literally disintegrate anything or anyone at will. You will find that even the most terrifying creatures will scramble to get away from you, or you can simply command yourself to fast forward yourself through time and space popping out at whatever random or chosen place to be. I've always looked at Lucid dreams as a certain percentage of Lucidity and from what it sounds you have not yet experienced anywhere near 100%. Now OOBE is different (much the same in certain ways) but different. I enjoyed both very much. I won't get too far into the things I've done and do keep hoping that whatever disconnected connects once again. Hell it could be a Pineal gland blockage I don't know. If I have to wait until I am dead I am sure that I will pick back up where i left off. I do envy you as I miss my adventures so very much. Keep at but don't abuse it (and maybe you won't lose it)
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she was trying to grab me and convince me to come to her way of thinking but the entire time in the back of my mind i knew i was running first chance. I jumped out a window and was out of danger.
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Whether you know it yet or not... believe it or not...
While there are truths in many of the world's major organized religions today... there are some inherent problems with them... those with eyes to see, know exactly that to which I refer here. most of them, if not all of them, have a root basis in FEAR. Unconditional Love (aka that which makes up the one true creator) is NOT based out of fear.

Let that sink in for a bit. PONDER it really hard for awhile...

IF God is Love... and Love (the real kind that is unconditional) is not based out of fear... WHAT DOES THAT SAY about the world's religions?

What could it mean?

WHAT is FEAR used for primarily in the world?

What has it ALWAYS been used for?

If you guessed Control.. Give yourself a pat on the back! You figured it out.
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Whether you know it yet or not... believe it or not...
While there are truths in many of the world's major organized religions today... there are some inherent problems with them... those with eyes to see, know exactly that to which I refer here. most of them, if not all of them, have a root basis in FEAR. Unconditional Love (aka that which makes up the one true creator) is NOT based out of fear.

Let that sink in for a bit. PONDER it really hard for awhile...

IF God is Love... and Love (the real kind that is unconditional) is not based out of fear... WHAT DOES THAT SAY about the world's religions?

What could it mean?

WHAT is FEAR used for primarily in the world?

What has it ALWAYS been used for?

If you guessed Control.. Give yourself a pat on the back! You figured it out.
hesright
hf
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That's actually the realization I had as a child when I was going to church.

I was about 10 when I began to question things. The point that changed me was that they said that you God was love but you had to fear him. I was unable to do those two states of mind at the same time.

So that was the beginning of my journey into questioning things. I lived through a lot of turmoil because I was worried that I was not being a good Christian.
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bingo-NI
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Everyone who participates in Occult activity will go to Hell.
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hesright

Fuck occultists.
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Occultist, and interacting within the sphere of human consciousness is two different things.

OP is simply exploring the hidden worlds that surround us. I can find no spiritual fault with that.

I only wish I could do it with intent, not just accidental chance happenings like happens to all of us.

By your statement, you are an occultist if you have dreams while sleeping.

OP goes to the leading edge of the conscious state and full sleep at the same time. What’s so evily wrong about that?
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Fuck occultists.
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I am most certainly not an "occultist". These abilities of mine are god-given gifts that were not obtained through ritual or contract. I am a servant of The Christ and The True God.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


If this is true, you should be seeking help from God and the bible only

That being said, this is what it reminds me of

Zechariah 5:5-11
 Quoting: Furrry Pete


The Bible holds great wisdom, but we must accept the bitter reality that it has been distorted and appropriated by the powers of this world almost since the beginning. Look into the history of Christianity. After Paul met with the early fathers of the first church, the message was modified to make it more accessible to the masses. It was taken by the oligarchs of Rome and reimagined as a social control system predicated on fear of authority and total submission. It has been colored by the hand of man. The Bible is still a holy book, but we must be careful to read it within the context of the real historical truth. The Bible is read with your heart, not your eyes.
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Very well said. I am just starting to experience some of these astral dreams. I can always tell when they're different they seem so realistic and I have a weird feeling like a vibration when I'm in an astral dream I think. When I have these dreams it's always like I'm supposed to learn something and I'm never sure if I do. On 2 occasions I have woken up to my whole body vibrating and it gave me the most euphoric feeling but I couldn't hold on to it, it only lasted for about 15 to 20 seconds.
One question I have for you as this I have had several of these lucid dreams and I wake up but I'm not fully awake I know I'm not sleeping but I'm also not awake yet I can see you like a haze and certain spots of the room like something is watching me. It is like a Gray smoke but I know itssome type of entity , and it is studying me does that make sense. One time I mentally spoke out at it and said I see you I know you're there and it left immediately.
Thanks for any suggestions because I am very new at this.

One last thing I have learned to float around in these dreams I keep trying to fly but I can't really do it. I kind of come off the ground and just hover but I can't really go exactly where I want to either

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Everyone who participates in Occult activity will go to Hell.
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hesright

Fuck occultists.
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Occultist, and interacting within the sphere of human consciousness is two different things.

OP is simply exploring the hidden worlds that surround us. I can find no spiritual fault with that.

I only wish I could do it with intent, not just accidental chance happenings like happens to all of us.

By your statement, you are an occultist if you have dreams while sleeping.

OP goes to the leading edge of the conscious state and full sleep at the same time. What’s so evily wrong about that?
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OP, did not ask for this ability and nor can he stop it from happening. He just needs to develop the gift that he has and use it to find the answers that we all would like to find. We are all born with this innate ability. Why it comes easily to some and not others is probably because it is a result of living many lifetimes or some would call it "being an old soul" what ever the reason you should not knock it until you've tried it.
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Everyone who participates in Occult activity will go to Hell.
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hesright

Fuck occultists.
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Occultist, and interacting within the sphere of human consciousness is two different things.

OP is simply exploring the hidden worlds that surround us. I can find no spiritual fault with that.

I only wish I could do it with intent, not just accidental chance happenings like happens to all of us.

By your statement, you are an occultist if you have dreams while sleeping.

OP goes to the leading edge of the conscious state and full sleep at the same time. What’s so evily wrong about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72250778


OP, did not ask for this ability and nor can he stop it from happening. He just needs to develop the gift that he has and use it to find the answers that we all would like to find. We are all born with this innate ability. Why it comes easily to some and not others is probably because it is a result of living many lifetimes or some would call it "being an old soul" what ever the reason you should not knock it until you've tried it.
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Sorry, I wasn't addressing your statement AC 72250778, you are right on target.
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Preface: I'm a "dreamwalker" with a fair amount of experience in exploring the astral and etheric levels of our world through deliberate lucid dreams. About 90% of my dreams are lucid. I will occasionally have true OOBEs (out-of-body experiences) such as the one I had this afternoon, documented for posterity and analysis. I had a run-in with a strange entity inside a local church and I am curious what you will make of it.

Leaving my body, I scanned the large city I live in, and immediately was drawn to a large gothic style catholic church some ways away. Entering through the doors, I saw an entrancing light shimmering through the stained glass windows that I would never have seen in the physical. It was a living, moving current that pulsed like electricity, but was of a golden yellow color and appeared to move in shapes quite like an integrated circuit such as on the back of a microchip. There were only a few people in the church, mostly clergy in their robes, but I paid little attention to them. Instead I began climbing the staircase off of the foyer to see how high it went. It led me to the top of the balcony sitting atop the main hall and behind the pews where I noticed another door that wasn't in the physical world.

Going through it, I found a room that was bigger than the entire physical church and was hit with an ominous feeling. It appeared as a giant derelict factory with musty air and suspension cables running above a bottomless floor with more such cables traversing the room below as far as the eye could see. I noticed that on the cables hung some sort of suspended "baskets" although they looked more like a cross between a hammock and a sleeping bag, each one capable of accommodating a full human body. As I turned to leave, I saw that the door had disappeared, but the threshold had not. However it now led to a dark but luxuriously furnished bedroom in which stood a woman. She was smiling softy, rather beautiful, blonde, and about mid-forties from what I could see. If I had to draw comparison between her and a familiar face, I'd say that she somewhat resembled the actress Lucy Lawless. Suddenly without any action of my own, I found myself in one of the baskets in the factory room I had just left. Immediately I could feel that some sort of mind control being applied to me and I noticed something was attempting to extract energy from my lower chakras. I felt pacified, unafraid and being gently pushed to comply, while the entire time I could still sense the woman's presence.

Luckily, I'm very difficult to control - my true will stepped in and broke the hold.I made a "jump" to what I presumed was the ground floor outside the church. Instead, I appeared to be in a transportation terminal at the physical level nearby. It was crowded with many people, all wearing their masks. I was surprised when the crowd appeared to actually notice me! Normally you are invisible in the astral to physical folk. Immediately, a young girl pointed at me and said, "mom, he's not wearing his mask!" This clearly wasn't the physical world anymore so I turned and hid behind a column and manifested a large jacket and a face covering to blend in.

Pushing through the mass of people and frequently excusing myself, I got to the door of the terminal and went outside to the street. It greatly resembled my physical city and I could see many grocery stores along the main street with words written in Spanish. Having had enough of this, I readied myself to make the jump back to my body only to be pulled into an abstract space - intercepted by the same woman from before! She tried to wipe my memories, unsuccessfully. Before I broke free for the second time, I asked her who the hell she was and want she wanted from me. Her answer was ominous, although she spoke it with a calm sonorous voice and a soft smile - "You'll find out soon enough".

What the hell is up with people wearing masks in the astral realm?! Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

Any ideas as to what sort of entity I was dealing with? Another coincidence is that the archontic principality which rules my city is "Lawlessness", similar to the last name of the actress which this female entity resembled.
 Quoting: The Alkahest


Everyone who participates in Occult activity will go to Hell.
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Occult simply means knowledge of the hidden. Why do people think everything not known by many is evil? 200 years ago, a cell phone may have seemed like witchcraft.
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hesright

Fuck occultists.
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