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Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany

 
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Germany are reluctant on action against Russia and the ermab manufacturing industry will practically collapse if Russia are discontented from swift... PUTIN knows this..

Germany are between a rock and a hard place and they stuck with either for or against the USA and nato in support of any financial and or military actions On Russia.

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Fun fact
Germany are China’s #2 trading partner. Right behind the ]0uuuudiac States Of America
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
Nah the elephant in the room you can't talk about!
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Can't even type "their" name without getting banned.

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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
I don't think they have a choice in the matter. Half of Germany was occupied by Russia until 1989 too....

They're going to get roped in regardless, certainly as one of the losers of WW2 who are still answerable to the US Military and NATO like Japan is.

I don't have any expectations of Germany at all, and they know all of Putin's old gag since they worked together right up until Operation Barbarossa.

Germany and Russia divided up Poland TOGETHER. The Poles described it as the SAME FORCE entering from both sides of the country and decapitating people and doing a lot of other stuff too.
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what does that even mean?

America still occupies it with several bases as far as i know.

being German and liking Americans, i can still tell you that it was America how bombed Dresden for no reason.
Russia just did whats logical after a war. not to forget they won that war. or at least made Germany lose, not with power but simply their weather and terrain..
the winners wernt some group of people who joined much later over some false pretext and then went back home, far away, where they never have any consequences for their actions and then made some stupid TV show hoping to teach tards what the war was instead of the reality. *caugh* SPIELBERG *caugh*

so basically america is the outside aggressor always using other countries as their battleground. and pretty much the entire world knows this. just saying. its not hard to understand why Germany does their own thing instead of following the demented president of America lol

(again, no hate towards Americans. Just giving some insight in how the rest of the world thinks, those 100+ countries that arnt part of those 10ish 'allies')
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Please remember sir, Americans do not run America.
The satanic overlords run the country.
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im sorry i didnt specify this more clearly
thats exactly my point

theres regular people, and leaders. everything else is BS (imo)
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Thread: Russia will invade Ukraine on Jan 30th
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Germany are reluctant on action against Russia and the ermab manufacturing industry will practically collapse if Russia are discontented from swift... PUTIN knows this..

Germany are between a rock and a hard place and they stuck with either for or against the USA and nato in support of any financial and or military actions On Russia.

[link to www.express.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79428569


Time for Germany to man up, assert leadership, say the quiet thoughts about Ukraine, Russia, and balance of power Realpolitik out loud, stop letting guilty history restrain them from being in front.
NATO was built as a Cold War defensive military bloc.
That was then, this is now.
WTF was NATO doing in Afghanistan?
Are 30 countries going to vote to send soldiers to die for Montenegro?
Why not, if it’s in NATO.
Get real!

Now NATO as much or more about European geopolitical strategy …a diplomatic group with big sticks = military forces. Some common interests. Some national interests. Some temporary interests …always permanent interests.

Time for Germany ( and France) to stand up for their national interests here apart from the Blinken Biden idiots in the US who think rainbow flags and pronouns reflect a beacon of democracy worth bloodshed by Europeans

Last Edited by Dodger007 on 01/26/2022 02:16 PM
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Germany are reluctant on action against Russia and the ermab manufacturing industry will practically collapse if Russia are discontented from swift... PUTIN knows this..

Germany are between a rock and a hard place and they stuck with either for or against the USA and nato in support of any financial and or military actions On Russia.

[link to www.express.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79428569


Time for Germany to man up, assert leadership, say the quiet thoughts about Ukraine, Russia, and balance of power Realpolitik out loud, stop letting guilty history restrain them from being in front.
NATO was built as a Cold War defensive military bloc.
That was then, this is now.
WTF was NATO doing in Afghanistan?
Are 30 countries going to vote to send soldiers to die for Montenegro?
Why not, if it’s in NATO.
Get real!

Now NATO as much or more about European geopolitical strategy …a diplomatic group with big sticks = military forces.

Time for Germany ( and France) to stand up for their national interests here apart from the Blinken Biden idiots in the US who think rainbow flags and pronouns reflect a beacon of democracy worth bloodshed by Europeans
 Quoting: No Mandates dodger007


what a fucking idiot
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
The grave sin the United States committed during WW2 was not to destroy the evil Nazi Empire but in order to do destroy Nazi Germany, the US massively supported another evil empire which under Stalin killed 50 million of its own white Christian people and not lift a finger to destroy Communism right after the war.
Instead it allowed Russia to occupy half of Germany and all of Eastern Europe.
Your General Patton had plans after Hitler"s death to take the Wehrmacht plus US forces and destroy Communism once and for all.
But WW2 hero Patton was killed in Munich by the US government because of his plans.
The USA were always in love with Communism.
Read up on General Patton and his murder in Germany at the end of WW2.
 Quoting: Tekunda


This is BS.

It was the Russian Army that kicked Germany's ass, not the US and Britain. The German decision to try to invade Russia was the greatest strategic mistake in history (even bigger than the Democrat Party's decision to steal the 2020 election, which has destroyed them).

The US Army didn't allow the Russians to do dick. They didn't want to tangle with them.
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
Germany are reluctant on action against Russia and the ermab manufacturing industry will practically collapse if Russia are discontented from swift... PUTIN knows this..

Germany are between a rock and a hard place and they stuck with either for or against the USA and nato in support of any financial and or military actions On Russia.

[link to www.express.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79428569


Time for Germany to man up, assert leadership, say the quiet thoughts about Ukraine, Russia, and balance of power Realpolitik out loud, stop letting guilty history restrain them from being in front.
NATO was built as a Cold War defensive military bloc.
That was then, this is now.
WTF was NATO doing in Afghanistan?
Are 30 countries going to vote to send soldiers to die for Montenegro?
Why not, if it’s in NATO.
Get real!

Now NATO as much or more about European geopolitical strategy …a diplomatic group with big sticks = military forces.

Time for Germany ( and France) to stand up for their national interests here apart from the Blinken Biden idiots in the US who think rainbow flags and pronouns reflect a beacon of democracy worth bloodshed by Europeans
 Quoting: No Mandates dodger007


what a fucking idiot
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I’ve heard that one! Always a useful dialogue.
You can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative."
Winston Churchill
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
I don't think they have a choice in the matter. Half of Germany was occupied by Russia until 1989 too....

They're going to get roped in regardless, certainly as one of the losers of WW2 who are still answerable to the US Military and NATO like Japan is.

I don't have any expectations of Germany at all, and they know all of Putin's old gag since they worked together right up until Operation Barbarossa.

Germany and Russia divided up Poland TOGETHER. The Poles described it as the SAME FORCE entering from both sides of the country and decapitating people and doing a lot of other stuff too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172635


what does that even mean?

America still occupies it with several bases as far as i know.

being German and liking Americans, i can still tell you that it was America how bombed Dresden for no reason.
Russia just did whats logical after a war. not to forget they won that war. or at least made Germany lose, not with power but simply their weather and terrain..
the winners wernt some group of people who joined much later over some false pretext and then went back home, far away, where they never have any consequences for their actions and then made some stupid TV show hoping to teach tards what the war was instead of the reality. *caugh* SPIELBERG *caugh*

so basically america is the outside aggressor always using other countries as their battleground. and pretty much the entire world knows this. just saying. its not hard to understand why Germany does their own thing instead of following the demented president of America lol

(again, no hate towards Americans. Just giving some insight in how the rest of the world thinks, those 100+ countries that arnt part of those 10ish 'allies')
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those were very different times from today...
 Quoting: 7..X.LePsihoLog

very true. and i never understand why people somehow blamed me for being german, as if i dislike americans or brits over something that happened 80+ years ago and non of us was part of to begin with :D

in my opinion were literally all the same everywhere and we just have to do what our elites tell us. corona proofs this on an international level (in my opinion)

most of these things are literally non sense if you zoom out enough. truth is like an onion... and were all pretty much just useful pawns, no matter where were from or how we think.

hf
 Quoting: T-Man


propaganda....

nope...
nor ours nor u have to do anything like that-nature is prime wealth....

another nope....
by way of thinking, and doing things, you influence.... ;)
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
German MEN are walking around with purses.

IT IS OVER!
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germany must mass there army at the russian front and wait till late summer right before winter and invade russia . this time hitler will use his secret weapon a space station with missiles and drones
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
If war breaks out, Germany isn't going to do shit. Germany will declare neutrality. They have no choice. They are a mentally destroyed nation, and they effectively don't have a military.

Their airforce only exists on paper, and they don't even have enough guns for proper training exercises, let alone military conflict.
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
The grave sin the United States committed during WW2 was not to destroy the evil Nazi Empire but in order to do destroy Nazi Germany, the US massively supported another evil empire which under Stalin killed 50 million of its own white Christian people and not lift a finger to destroy Communism right after the war.
Instead it allowed Russia to occupy half of Germany and all of Eastern Europe.
Your General Patton had plans after Hitler"s death to take the Wehrmacht plus US forces and destroy Communism once and for all.
But WW2 hero Patton was killed in Munich by the US government because of his plans.
The USA were always in love with Communism.
Read up on General Patton and his murder in Germany at the end of WW2.
 Quoting: Tekunda


The Russians tied down German forces on the Eastern Front ( thank you Hitler you deluded military genius) and killed more nazis in ground action than all rest of the Allies.

Not sure what Patton thought the allies could do about Russia in the long term but 1945 neither Europe nor the US was ready militarily or politically to start another ground war against Russia,
You can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative."
Winston Churchill
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
If war breaks out, Germany isn't going to do shit. Germany will declare neutrality. They have no choice. They are a mentally destroyed nation, and they effectively don't have a military.

Their airforce only exists on paper, and they don't even have enough guns for proper training exercises, let alone military conflict.
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Germany is the most powerful state in Europe.
If they choose to deal with Putin diplomatically, by reviving the Minsk Protocol via the Normandy Format going on today, then so will France and the rest of NATO will stand fast. Regardless of Biff Biden’s saber rattling.
Imho
You can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative."
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
You mean Germen.

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Thus says [Elijah] the Lord of hosts: “The sons of Israel and the sons of Judah [English & Irish] have endured calumny together. All who have seized them are holding them and refusing to release them.

Their redeemer is strong. [Sabaoth] The Lord of hosts [heaven armies] is his name. He will defend their case in judgment, so that he may terrify the land and disturb the inhabitants of Babylon.

A sword is for the Chaldeans [Canadians/French], says the Lord, and for the inhabitants of Babylon [American/British & German Anglo-Saxons], and for her leaders, and for her wise ones.

A sword is for her diviners, who will be fooled. A sword is for her strong ones, who will be afraid.

A sword is for their horses, and for their chariots, and for all the common people who are in her midst. And they will be like women. A sword is for her storehouses, and they will be plundered. - Jeremiah 50:33-37
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If war breaks out, Germany isn't going to do shit. Germany will declare neutrality. They have no choice. They are a mentally destroyed nation, and they effectively don't have a military.

Their airforce only exists on paper, and they don't even have enough guns for proper training exercises, let alone military conflict.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53081600


Germany is the most powerful state in Europe.
If they choose to deal with Putin diplomatically, by reviving the Minsk Protocol via the Normandy Format going on today, then so will France and the rest of NATO will stand fast. Regardless of Biff Biden’s saber rattling.
Imho
 Quoting: No Mandates dodger007


you have wrong point of view....
let me explain it like this....

europe, on a way as it was, does not exist in that format any more...
europe, whole of it, got its genetic print out, and have found out that point of their origin is in a place, known to those behind the second curtain, that is behind the first curtain(yea, there are two courtains)....
as a garden of eden....
that place is my country...
that made a lots of comotions through out the world(and beyond because some did not want for u to even know that...

russians, are our first children....
ukraine are first brothers....
actually, all white people are....
(considering the other races, in some other post)...

so, russians are observing their uncles, usa and uk, like...
have our uncles otisli na kvasinu/went onto the vinegar?....
have they izgubili busolu/lost a compass-went mad?....
WTF is a problem with them?????....

and so, they are sitting there, with eyes open so wide from wondering, that that picture is hard to describe with words....
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
I don't think they have a choice in the matter. Half of Germany was occupied by Russia until 1989 too....

They're going to get roped in regardless, certainly as one of the losers of WW2 who are still answerable to the US Military and NATO like Japan is.

I don't have any expectations of Germany at all, and they know all of Putin's old gag since they worked together right up until Operation Barbarossa.

Germany and Russia divided up Poland TOGETHER. The Poles described it as the SAME FORCE entering from both sides of the country and decapitating people and doing a lot of other stuff too.
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LOL
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The grave sin the United States committed during WW2 was not to destroy the evil Nazi Empire but in order to do destroy Nazi Germany, the US massively supported another evil empire which under Stalin killed 50 million of its own white Christian people and not lift a finger to destroy Communism right after the war.
Instead it allowed Russia to occupy half of Germany and all of Eastern Europe.
Your General Patton had plans after Hitler"s death to take the Wehrmacht plus US forces and destroy Communism once and for all.
But WW2 hero Patton was killed in Munich by the US government because of his plans.
The USA were always in love with Communism.
Read up on General Patton and his murder in Germany at the end of WW2.
 Quoting: Tekunda


The Russians tied down German forces on the Eastern Front ( thank you Hitler you deluded military genius) and killed more nazis in ground action than all rest of the Allies.

Not sure what Patton thought the allies could do about Russia in the long term but 1945 neither Europe nor the US was ready militarily or politically to start another ground war against Russia,
 Quoting: No Mandates dodger007


Patton was a warrior and wanted to keep fighting. But this guy is correct, the Red Army massively outnumber the western allies in men, tanks, armillary, planes. Churchill distrusted the Soviets and had his people study what would happen if the western allies fought the Soviets. It was called Operation Unthinkable and it wasn't pretty. The likely outcome would have been the entire continental Europe as communist.

Remember while the Soviets always wanted to spread communism they never had much success even losing a war with Poland in the early 1920s. It wasn't until the communists became allies with the Nazis with the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact that Stalin was able to spread communism. Hitler basically gave the Soviets most of Eastern Europe which allowed Stalin to seize half of Poland, Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia as well as a free hand to invade Finland and seize parts of Romania. Without the deal with the Nazis the Soviet Union would never able been able to spread communism as much as they did.
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
As far as I'm concerned, there are too many elephants running around America for us to be concerned with anywhere else.

We need elephant guns at home.
230 here, but 0 there.
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The grave sin the United States committed during WW2 was not to destroy the evil Nazi Empire but in order to do destroy Nazi Germany, the US massively supported another evil empire which under Stalin killed 50 million of its own white Christian people and not lift a finger to destroy Communism right after the war.
Instead it allowed Russia to occupy half of Germany and all of Eastern Europe.
Your General Patton had plans after Hitler"s death to take the Wehrmacht plus US forces and destroy Communism once and for all.
But WW2 hero Patton was killed in Munich by the US government because of his plans.
The USA were always in love with Communism.
Read up on General Patton and his murder in Germany at the end of WW2.
 Quoting: Tekunda


The Russians tied down German forces on the Eastern Front ( thank you Hitler you deluded military genius) and killed more nazis in ground action than all rest of the Allies.

Not sure what Patton thought the allies could do about Russia in the long term but 1945 neither Europe nor the US was ready militarily or politically to start another ground war against Russia,
 Quoting: No Mandates dodger007


Patton was a warrior and wanted to keep fighting. But this guy is correct, the Red Army massively outnumber the western allies in men, tanks, armillary, planes. Churchill distrusted the Soviets and had his people study what would happen if the western allies fought the Soviets. It was called Operation Unthinkable and it wasn't pretty. The likely outcome would have been the entire continental Europe as communist.

Remember while the Soviets always wanted to spread communism they never had much success even losing a war with Poland in the early 1920s. It wasn't until the communists became allies with the Nazis with the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact that Stalin was able to spread communism. Hitler basically gave the Soviets most of Eastern Europe which allowed Stalin to seize half of Poland, Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia as well as a free hand to invade Finland and seize parts of Romania. Without the deal with the Nazis the Soviet Union would never able been able to spread communism as much as they did.
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You are completely wrong with your claim that the Russians "outnumbered" the Western Armies in armaments.
Are you not aware that e.g. the famous T34 tank was build by the thousands in the United States and shipped to the Soviets?
And this goes for almost all weaponry used by the Red Army.
Without uber-massive armament shipments from the US to the Russian Communists the Russians would not have lasted another year.
Lenin was correct when he said that the American capitalists would even sell the ropes to the Russian Communists which the Communists would use then to hang the capitalists from the next tree.
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
Patton was a warrior and wanted to keep fighting. But this guy is correct, the Red Army massively outnumber the western allies in men, tanks, armillary, planes. Churchill distrusted the Soviets and had his people study what would happen if the western allies fought the Soviets. It was called Operation Unthinkable and it wasn't pretty. The likely outcome would have been the entire continental Europe as communist.

Remember while the Soviets always wanted to spread communism they never had much success even losing a war with Poland in the early 1920s. It wasn't until the communists became allies with the Nazis with the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact that Stalin was able to spread communism. Hitler basically gave the Soviets most of Eastern Europe which allowed Stalin to seize half of Poland, Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia as well as a free hand to invade Finland and seize parts of Romania. Without the deal with the Nazis the Soviet Union would never able been able to spread communism as much as they did.
 Quoting: Educated Redneck

You are completely wrong with your claim that the Russians "outnumbered" the Western Armies in armaments.
Are you not aware that e.g. the famous T34 tank was build by the thousands in the United States and shipped to the Soviets?
 Quoting: Tekunda


That is incorrect. The US sent several thousand Sherman tanks to the Soviets but no T-34 tanks were built in the US. Between 1940 and 1945 the Soviet Union built more than 80,000 T-34 tanks. The Soviets out produced the Germans which isn't surprising since the Soviet Union was larger, had more people and more natural resources.

And this goes for almost all weaponry used by the Red Army.
Without uber-massive armament shipments from the US to the Russian Communists the Russians would not have lasted another year.
 Quoting: Tekunda


Lend lease and the convoys that delivered those supplies were a big help for the Soviets in defeating Germany. But the Soviets built the vast majority of their small arms, artillery and tanks. They received a few thousand tanks and planes but they produced huge numbers of both. Probably the biggest help was the massive number of Studebaker trucks the Red Army received. During Operation Bagration in 1944 when the Red Army annihilated Army Group Center and recaptured most of their territory they did so with their own weapons but moved their soldiers quickly with US built trucks.

Lenin was correct when he said that the American capitalists would even sell the ropes to the Russian Communists which the Communists would use then to hang the capitalists from the next tree.
 Quoting: Tekunda


For the first 2 years of WWII the communists and Nazis were on the same side. They invaded Poland together and met as friends in central Poland splitting up their conquest. Germany invaded all the free nations of Western Europe powered by oil and grain from their communist Soviet allies. The Soviets ended up on the same side as the UK and US because a dummkopf named Hitler turned on his communist ally in 1941. Nazi socialism and Soviet communism were similar leftist authoritarian regimes.
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Re: Elephant In the room no nobody wants to talk about =Germany
Fuck the AB

and fuck skin heads

And watch me get into the kc stadium and do what the anomaly does





GLP