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NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA

 
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Without zinc ivermectin is only as good as standard medical care... Hmm, that is something to think about.
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It's not true though.

Yes IVM is an Ionophore for Zinc just as hydroxychloroquine and Quercetin are but that's not it's only function as is the case with the other 2.
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
Ya ok....Prednisone/corticosteroid/medicated nebulizer, was getting better by about 1% a day keeping 02 levels up this last Jan. After about 10 days had enough, sent the kids to Tractor Supply, all they had was Apple Bimectin, downed it with some yogurt, within 1 hour literally cough started to subside, fever started to level off, couple days later was gone.

Desperation was a factor for sure, each his own in this game of life, but stories like this from Elitist Publications should really make one question who benefits and motive behind it, just follow the money backwards, easy enough.
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Wow, who paid them off?
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Covid 19 is not a disease to start with.. its the name of a program.
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buncha red for abusive posts there, sea hag.
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
The antiparasitic drug ivermectin doesn't prevent severe disease from COVID-19 any more effectively than symptom management and close observation by medical professionals, according to a study published Friday in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine.

The study enrolled nearly 500 people 50 and older who were at risk of severe COVID-19 because of their age and underlying health. These patients were treated at 20 public hospitals and a quarantine center in Malaysia in 2021.

Half of the patients took a relatively high dose of oral ivermectin for five days, and the other half — the comparison group — received treatment for their symptoms, such as fever-reducing medications. All were monitored for progression of the disease.

There was no difference in outcomes between the groups. In fact, slightly more patients in the ivermectin group went on to need extra oxygen compared with those who took a placebo, though the difference was not statistically significant.

This was the main outcome researchers studied, but they also looked at whether patients needed to be hospitalized, had to go on a ventilator, needed intensive care or died from their infections.

There was no meaningful difference in outcomes between the group that took ivermectin and those who got the placebo treatment.

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The study was 'underpowered'.

The ivermectin group had half the death rate than the control group.

The reason that they didn't find a significant result is that their trial didn't have enough participants. A power calculation suggests that it would have needed around 750-800 people per study arm (ivermectin or control) to have found a significant result.

They would have found a similar result of no-significance had they been trialling other 'proven to work' drugs with this size of study.
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Shit, I'd trust this guy over big pharma and the government any day.
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Its true. Horse paste didn't cure my dad.
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
This just shows that JAMA will rig their studies to support the New World Order missions.

Don't trust JAMA therefore.

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Medical "researchers" rigged studies about HCQ and COVID also.....they failed to give zinc to their test patients, which deliberately showed HCQ to be "ineffective". The zinc was needed for HCQ to be effective.

Medical researchers rig tests and studies to get the outcome that they WANT. It is (oftentimes) not true science.

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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
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Shit, I'd trust this guy over big pharma and the government any day.
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If the government and big pharma said "Good Morning," I would have to conclude that it's probably middle of the night.
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
My cousin is in the hospital on a Covid floor. He was double vaxed as iOS his wife. He has Covid. His wife ordered ivervectin through Frontline. She had taken it for the past ten days. She was exposed to Cvid and has been going up to a Cvid floor and has not gotten it. She says it is because of the ivrmktn.

So. Take that JAMA.

Why they refuse to admit it works when hundreds of thousands say it does is beyond me.
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The study was 'underpowered'.



As are their brains and their morals.
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
JAMA = CRAP studies
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
My cousin is in the hospital on a Covid floor. He was double vaxed as iOS his wife. He has Covid. His wife ordered ivervectin through Frontline. She had taken it for the past ten days. She was exposed to Cvid and has been going up to a Cvid floor and has not gotten it. She says it is because of the ivrmktn.

So. Take that JAMA.

Why they refuse to admit it works when hundreds of thousands say it does is beyond me.
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It isn't just anecdotal evidence either. There have been several large well-done studies that show it works dramatically. These are just ignored by the MSM.
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fake news
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What a convincing rebuttal of the findings from this large scale randomized clinical trial.

I’ll be you did your own research.
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i got very sick yesterday--classic covid can't eat, headache, nausea getting worse

took the ivermectin--sweats all night better by morning
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Sure sure
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
Nothing and nobody on earth or above can convince me that it doesnt work. My own experience using Ivermectin for this covid or whatever bio-weapon was unleashed onto us. Three days it was gone. Nothing else worked for me except Ivermectin.

I feel bad for people who have suffered needlessly because they listen to the puppet liars working for the establishment.
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I AGREE BASED ON THE EFFORT THEY GIVE TO OUTLAW IT
that effort to ban it= shows ITS TRUE & IT WORKS!
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
Be nice if they did a study on why goos are so mean and evil
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
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They did it wrong. It's not just the ivermectin you need...

I have a book recommendation for you, it's called how to lie with statistics.

It's a good book and everyone with the mathematical chips to understand stats should read it anyway but considering this you definitely need it.

What it doesn't cover specifically is how to fraudulently get the results you want from a randomized medical trial, but that information is out there too.

It also doesn't cover how jama and the lancet both have critical honesty deficiencies around certain subjects either, but again you can easily find that information too.

I'm going to be honest with you here and tell you that in my evaluation your education was obviously top notch in being told what to think but extremely deficient in anything related to HOW TO THINK!

Not all studies are created equal, and the difference between a competent person and an incompetent one is in being able to understand which studies are worth the electrons used to store them on a hard drive and which are not.

If you lack that key ability you can pretty much find a panoply of studies to back up your opinion no matter how wrong it actually is.

At the End of the day though you don't even need to do any of the above work when it comes to covid because there's a FAR SIMPLER AND BETTER metric out there!

When it comes to covid we have loads of data on the actual case outcomes of people who have followed FLCCC protocols versus American CDC/AMA protocols and they tell the story all on their own.

The FDA/AMA have killed the fuck out of people across all age groups and risk levels consistently, with people who had the bad luck to be forced to admit themselves into hospitals or other managed care faring the worst by far!

Meanwhile, the people with the means and knowledge to stay out of the hospital even after their oxygen numbers start crashing overwhelmingly recover.

This is really all you should need to know if you're half as smart as you think you are!

The single most reliable predictor of whether you will live or die from an active covid infection is whether you handle it at home or if the mainstream medical system gets ahold of you!

Even the governments own numbers CLEARLY AND OVERWHELMINGLY SHOW THIS
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
This is what it should say

NEW: the vaccines doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
Made them wait to test positive, stupid, that could take days especially in fucking Malaysia. My entire family took ivermectin IMMEDIATELY, all of us better within days. Including my 72 year old grandmother. If you wait until you’re really sick to take it you’re going to end up getting sicker. It has to be right away.

You can guarantee these shit heads knew that too.

Op, if you believe this you are a dumb fuck.
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Fuck Big Pharma!

Don’t be a pussy, if you leave red at least leave your name.

I can’t guarantee I’ll be alive come this time next year…
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
JAMA = controlled by Big Pharma.

Only the $$$$$$$$$ Big Pharma solution will be allowed.

A doctor once told me only about 20 drugs actually work. The rest are only marginally better than placebo.

No one is asking why the placebo is so effective...

70% is in your mind.

That's the greatest medical discovery of the 20th century.
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and THE sheep still listen and believe every word the MSM and lyin Oxiden says,,,ITS fucking inSANE
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
Nothing and nobody on earth or above can convince me that it doesnt work. My own experience using Ivermectin for this covid or whatever bio-weapon was unleashed onto us. Three days it was gone. Nothing else worked for me except Ivermectin.

I feel bad for people who have suffered needlessly because they listen to the puppet liars working for the establishment.
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I AGREE BASED ON THE EFFORT THEY GIVE TO OUTLAW IT
that effort to ban it= shows ITS TRUE & IT WORKS!
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I mean you don't even have to go that far to understand what the game is though.

According to the governments own numbers the single biggest factor which determines whether you live or die from covid is whether you seek medical care from the mainstream medical establishment!

Or put a simpler way, the second you let the mainstream medical system get involved your chances of dying increase by almost an order of magnitude.
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
I saw no mention as to how long the subjects had covid before starting the ivermection. From the doctors that say ivermecton works, they say to take it at the first sign you might have covid. Don't wait until you feel very ill. Take it at the first sign you feel you might be coming down with something as it won't work as well.
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If it didn’t work…why did big pharma spend so much money and resources to suppress it? They then copied the drug and came out w their own therapeutic…but it sucked ass.
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Lying bastards
i dont pay attention to the world ending. it has ended for me many times and began again in the morning.
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
The only thing wrong with the study was an incorrect conclusion. The results showed that Ivermectin has a significant positive effect.


Mechanical ventilation occurred in 4 (1.7%) vs 10 (4.0%) (RR, 0.41; 95% CI, 0.13-1.30; P = .17), intensive care unit admission in 6 (2.4%) vs 8 (3.2%) (RR, 0.78; 95% CI, 0.27-2.20; P = .79), and 28-day in-hospital death in 3 (1.2%) vs 10 (4.0%) (RR, 0.31; 95% CI, 0.09-1.11; P = .09).
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
490 high risk patients tested on.

Therefore ivermectin won’t help anyone?
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Who did the study Pfizer, or Moderna
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Keep sucking on your horse tube.
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Re: NEW: Ivermectin doesn’t prevent severe disease from Covid-19 any more effectively than a placebo, according to a new study published in JAMA
If Ivermectin didn't work for Covid, TPTB wouldn't be hell bent on preventing us from being to buy it. That alone tells me it is effective against Covid.





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