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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79889820 Canada 05/27/2022 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79889820 They were ready to attack any parents who tried to save their children. So you know who they were exactly? I'm not familiar with any of them. I'm not from that town. The town of 16,000 seem to have just have a few police. They show 5 on their Facebook page! There were a lot more than 5 in videos that day. Perhaps they came from surrounding towns in the county. I imagine others were called in but those on scene stopped parents from going in. They should have deputized anyone armed and gone in to save those children. They caused more problems than they solved. They waited for nearly an hour...maybe hoping the shooter ran out of ammunition or something? Not so.... I'll find the link I just posted on another page or this one. Definitely lack of communication, but they didn't wait an hour. Police were inside. Here: By 11:53, 19 officers were in the school hallway, where they were told to wait. The Border Patrol tactical team began arriving at 12:21 p.m. but didn't enter the classroom until 12:50..... [link to www.msn.com (secure)] So they waited an hour before entering the classroom? The tactical team was on site and waited for half an hour? Barney Fife could do a better job and sooner. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81489847 United States 05/27/2022 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why was the door propped open right before the shooter got to the school? Quoting: Just An Observer Any answer to this yet? A teacher propped it open, this should be investigated What are the chances one door is propped open and he finds it???? If I heard correctly the teacher was going to get her cell phone out of her car https://twitter.com/_/status/1530223504112640000 https://twitter.com/_/status/1530224477614788609 SUPER SUSPECT |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79889820 Canada 05/27/2022 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's a ton of research and real-life examples proving that arming teachers and having armed guards posted everywhere does nothing to help stop a shooting, and makes attending school worse psychologically for students. It's not a solution. Quoting: RR4lyfe I doubt that. Used to be kids could take their guns to school for show and tell and they have AK-47s to trip and assemble in Russia and elsewhere. They aren't traumatized. Turning the school into an armed camp with guards everywhere? That is the wrong answer to the wrong question. That isn't what anyone wants or needs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80164964 South Korea 05/27/2022 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is one - MOST fucked up case ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80164964 solution: - armed guards in EVERY school !!! - cameras - lock the fucking doors - train to detect intrusions and shoot the perpetrators Turn them into more secure prisons than they already are.. Good idea. This is all just to lockdown the kids even harder. so what's your suggestion: open doors in schools ?? no security ?? come and kill the kids or snatch and go? while at same time notice how all gov installations have security guards and controlled entry points same for business downtown high rises, key businesses, all have security and armed guards, events also, colleges have police on duty 24/7 but ... you want to keep kid schools open for all kinds of psychos to pray upon without any protection ! a true fucking democrat ! grow some fucking brain cells !!! all schools much be the first priority for securing !!! we are talking kids here !!! the ones that need the most protection !!! There's a ton of research and real-life examples proving that arming teachers and having armed guards posted everywhere does nothing to help stop a shooting, and makes attending school worse psychologically for students. It's not a solution. so what's your ( libtard, marxist, democrat ) solution ??? oh, yeah - take all the guns... right ??? if that door was locked - it would have given more time to the cops the handle the shooter outside of school and not inside ! if there were cameras - you could see the approach of the shooter to the school and the doors ( cameras should be wire straight to police local headquarters as well ) if there was an armed guard - he could have put himself between the shooter and kids and shoot the fucker as soon as he entered that door ! and if a teach had a concealed carry - he/she would have shot that fucker upon entry into the classroom ! PERIOD ! but... these fucking democrats - they sure don't want any security in schools as they love to undermine the country and take your guns away to disarm you before they introduce NWO to America... NO FUCKING WAY !!! guns !!! is what stands between America and NWO !!! guns take care of sick fuckers that slip thru filters by given them a bullet into their fucked up heads ! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83428930 Finland 05/27/2022 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Officer Tatum breaks this down. So yeah shooter barricaded into classroom and killed all the students. Cops were behind the locked door getting fired at and waited for swat. So that is why they didn't allow parents in. |
Alabaster Braintrust
User ID: 82526962 United States 05/27/2022 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's a ton of research and real-life examples proving that arming teachers and having armed guards posted everywhere does nothing to help stop a shooting, and makes attending school worse psychologically for students. It's not a solution. Quoting: RR4lyfe BS Security works...ask any celebrity that has security following them around 24/7. They are trained and expected to blend in, they don't frog-march around like stormtroopers. Kids barely need to know they are there. Secure schools properly and have at least one person trained and ready to respond to active threats. Now...arming teachers? Definitely not. One look at the average teacher should explain why. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83299189 United Kingdom 05/27/2022 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess the decent cops that would have (at one time) gone in have probably quit, because of Woke Common Purpose / Common Core leadership who are no longer prepared to back up officers working on their own initiative. All the officers standing guard with their hard-on "assault rifles" should have them removed if they are not prepared to use them against the active shooter. Let them cower, out of sight with their service pistol, better still Tazer. The fact that they knew an active shooter was in the building free to shoot who he liked meant that children were at less risk of dying than waiting for SWAT to roll up and put a plan (????) into action. Those cowardly box ticking cops should resign and slink away quickly and quietly before they are all DOX'ed. The people who gave the orders to stand down and put in place the bullshit rules should be brought before a court and explain themselves. |
Writemeaticket Red
User ID: 77067792 United States 05/27/2022 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BULL F&CK!NG SHIT - THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER LT. OLIVAREZ SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T GO IN BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID, GOING TO BE KILLED. IF YOU ARE A COP IN UVALDE, TURN IN YOUR F&&CKING BADGE, HIT THE F&*CKING ROAD, MEXICAN CARTELS GONNA DO YOU WELL-DESREVED PAYBACK. SORRY FOR THE EFF BOMBS. ALL FOR SUPPORTING THE POLICE, THE REAL ONES, NOT THE F#CK!NG PUSSIES. AND UVALDE HAS A F2CKING SWAT TEAM THAT TRAINED IN ACTIVE SHOOTER OPS TO "SAVE" - MAKE THAT KILL - CHILDREN ON MARCH 22 IN UVALDE HIGH SCHOOL. The on-scene commander who made the decision to stand down should be charged for murder Yep. Along with the stupid teacher who propped open the door. TWICE. On this bitch since 2004. 7th Gen Texan - Come and take it! |
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User ID: 81823695 United States 05/27/2022 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And why was the door propped open right before the shooter got to the school? Quoting: Just An Observer Any answer to this yet? A teacher propped it open, this should be investigated What are the chances one door is propped open and he finds it???? If I heard correctly the teacher was going to get her cell phone out of her car https://twitter.com/_/status/1530223504112640000 https://twitter.com/_/status/1530224477614788609 Investigated for what? There's a hundred reasons to prop open a door. I know it sounds crazy, but a school shouldn't have to worry about a mass shooter getting inside just because a door is propped open. Don't start scapegoating this teacher when the system already failed a million times before and after the shooting started. And to everyone else, stop with the armed security / more guns in school nonsense. We had two shootings in a row proving that tactic to be useless, on top of the responding police also being useless. GOV. GREG ABBOTT: "The reason it was not worse, it is because law enforcement officials did what they do. They showed amazing courage by running toward gunfire for the singular purpose of trying to save lives. Please vote this idiot out of office. LE is useless in these situations. You don’t find it highly coincidental that a teacher propped open one door to go get a cell phone moments before a guy, who just shot his grandmother and crashed a car in a ditch, just so happened upon the one open door? The odds of that is just astounding. If she had time to go outside to get a cell phone, she had time to grab her keys to get back in, imo Schools are soft target and sadly we do have to worry about crazed killers who attack soft targets. ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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nutmeg
User ID: 76388104 United States 05/27/2022 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Inside scoop. I worked with the guy who killed shooter at a golf course in San Antonio. He and his buddy got a text from a teacher so they got guns and showed up. Cops were arresting people and had locked the doors and were not letting anyone inside. They snuck past the cops busted out a window and went inside. Didn’t take them long to drop the dirt bag Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82048494 BS You're Saying a random civilian ran inside the school and killed the shooter? If I was that civilian I would be on CNN MSNBC New York times, talking about it on Facebook Zero chance That would be let out of the bag instantly He's talking about another situation! A golf course in San Antonio!! Dear lord, and you call it BS? Were you there? Last Edited by nutmeg on 05/27/2022 03:59 PM |
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User ID: 76388104 United States 05/27/2022 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A family member went to a school in NJ....a VERY safe community in a shore town.... Kindergarten through 8th grade. I was there 20 years ago, and all doors to the school were LOCKED. The office had to buzz you into the main door. That was 20 years ago! In fact, when he graduated from his high school, 9 miles away, the students were warned they were leaving their safe communities and to be careful when they were out in the real world at their colleges. Last Edited by nutmeg on 05/27/2022 04:26 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76011272 05/27/2022 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bottom line is that THE PARENTS are responsible for the well being of their children, even while in the care of others..... When those cops REFUSED to act the parents should have been armed and gone in to take out the perp, and rescue THEIR children. But also this proves that at this point no responsible parent should allow their children to attend public schools. |
SugarSand
User ID: 77504359 United States 05/27/2022 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only people who did what they were trained and expected to do were the children. When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
nutmeg
User ID: 76388104 United States 05/27/2022 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did anyone see the video of a teacher being interviewed who was "sobbing" and telling her story? There wasn't one tear in her eyes. Not one! I wonder if she's the teacher who propped the door open and feels guilty. Her sobbing was so fake it was ridiculous! Last Edited by nutmeg on 05/27/2022 04:15 PM |
SugarSand
User ID: 77504359 United States 05/27/2022 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's a ton of research and real-life examples proving that arming teachers and having armed guards posted everywhere does nothing to help stop a shooting, and makes attending school worse psychologically for students. It's not a solution. Quoting: RR4lyfe BS Security works...ask any celebrity that has security following them around 24/7. They are trained and expected to blend in, they don't frog-march around like stormtroopers. Kids barely need to know they are there. Secure schools properly and have at least one person trained and ready to respond to active threats. Now...arming teachers? Definitely not. One look at the average teacher should explain why. About three years ago, our local schools completely revamped everything relating to cameras, entrances, etc ... to accommodate the armed security guard at every school, and I think there are 2 or 3 at the high school. I was very iffy about it in the beginning - my daughter is in fourth grade, and I was used to being able to walk right into the office. I was worried about he kids seeing the armed guard all the time, too. I love it now. Yes, I have to wait for the security guard to let me in (a double door vestibule system with two buzzers, showing ID and having your ID checked against the computer system by the officer), but the retired cops they hire are very kind and helpful. They ferry forgotten lunchboxes and gym sneakers into the kids all day long, and the kids all know their names. The resource officer is right there alongside the teachers each morning at drop off, opening car doors and helping with seat belts. It's much better having "Mr. Steve" at the door all day, than wondering which teachers, if any are armed, and better than knowing no one in the vicinity could respond quickly. When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
Ninbit
User ID: 79343222 United States 05/27/2022 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | those fucking cowards Uvalde School Children Desperately Called 911 Begging for Help as Police Waited an Hour to Kill Shooter [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)] Ninbit |
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nutmeg
User ID: 76388104 United States 05/27/2022 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's a ton of research and real-life examples proving that arming teachers and having armed guards posted everywhere does nothing to help stop a shooting, and makes attending school worse psychologically for students. It's not a solution. Quoting: RR4lyfe BS Security works...ask any celebrity that has security following them around 24/7. They are trained and expected to blend in, they don't frog-march around like stormtroopers. Kids barely need to know they are there. Secure schools properly and have at least one person trained and ready to respond to active threats. Now...arming teachers? Definitely not. One look at the average teacher should explain why. About three years ago, our local schools completely revamped everything relating to cameras, entrances, etc ... to accommodate the armed security guard at every school, and I think there are 2 or 3 at the high school. I was very iffy about it in the beginning - my daughter is in fourth grade, and I was used to being able to walk right into the office. I was worried about he kids seeing the armed guard all the time, too. I love it now. Yes, I have to wait for the security guard to let me in (a double door vestibule system with two buzzers, showing ID and having your ID checked against the computer system by the officer), but the retired cops they hire are very kind and helpful. They ferry forgotten lunchboxes and gym sneakers into the kids all day long, and the kids all know their names. The resource officer is right there alongside the teachers each morning at drop off, opening car doors and helping with seat belts. It's much better having "Mr. Steve" at the door all day, than wondering which teachers, if any are armed, and better than knowing no one in the vicinity could respond quickly. My grandson's school in LAVA has those buzzers (K-12). I remember having to be buzzed into the school door 20 years ago! And LAVA has zero crime, but they still made sure the kids were safe! Last Edited by nutmeg on 05/27/2022 04:31 PM |
SugarSand
User ID: 77504359 United States 05/27/2022 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A family member went to a school in NJ....a VERY safe community in a shore town.... Kindergarten through 8th grade. Quoting: nutmeg I was there 20 years ago, and all doors were LOCKED. The office had to buzz you into the main door. That was 20 years ago! In fact, when he graduated from his high school, 9 miles away, the students were warned they were leaving their safe communities and to be careful when they were out in the real world at their colleges. I live in NJ (as you know nutmeg). We were dealing with the gang thing in the state pretty early on, and I think that helped move it along here with school security. The doors/buzzers/metal detectors were in most high schools way back in the 80s and 90s, and a lot of grade schools, too, although not in our district. When the shit hits the fan and the end is just nigh, will you cry out to Heaven? Will you lie down and die? Not me, my dear one - THIS IS MY SACRED LIFE - to no one nor no thing I'll surrender. For how does one know where when dead she will go, or if sweet Mother Earth he'll remember? - Sug |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82783916 Egypt 05/27/2022 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Criminal negligence on part of that police department. Arrests need to be made and I hope they get sued out of existence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34166608 The question is when do we say we have had enough of the lies and BS from our criminal government. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46894592 Hahahahaha Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71434337 Police good lairs They've had lots of practice Save their own skin Hahahahaha is that after they told the children to cry out if they needed help and when one did she was shot??????? Quoting: sssssteve How the fuck do you stand down before the building is cleared? Quoting: Empath4U The mom that went in to get her kids out has more common sense than the police! Nuff said. |
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Alabaster Braintrust
User ID: 82526962 United States 05/27/2022 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A family member went to a school in NJ....a VERY safe community in a shore town.... Kindergarten through 8th grade. Quoting: nutmeg I was there 20 years ago, and all doors were LOCKED. The office had to buzz you into the main door. That was 20 years ago! In fact, when he graduated from his high school, 9 miles away, the students were warned they were leaving their safe communities and to be careful when they were out in the real world at their colleges. I live in NJ (as you know nutmeg). We were dealing with the gang thing in the state pretty early on, and I think that helped move it along here with school security. The doors/buzzers/metal detectors were in most high schools way back in the 80s and 90s, and a lot of grade schools, too, although not in our district. I live in NJ also, Bergen. I wish the security at my kid's elementary school was better! I expect to see changes soon. Very happy to hear about your kids school. This is the world we live in...being proactive is 10000x better than just putting your head in the sand and hoping for the best. Or, putting up a "gun free zone" sign and calling it a job well done. God bless. Last Edited by Alabaster Braintrust on 05/27/2022 04:54 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81887851 United States 05/27/2022 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | those fucking cowards Quoting: Ninbit Uvalde School Children Desperately Called 911 Begging for Help as Police Waited an Hour to Kill Shooter [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)] When a cop steps up to defend the community (Derek Chauvin, Kim Potter, the Arbery defendants) they get convicted of murder by a jury from that community. They'd surely rather be accused of cowardice and lose their police job. And until put to the test, they can look cool in uniform, collect the pay and credit toward that sweet sweet police pension. But we've screwed the pooch in terms of actual policing. They won't bother anymore. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74813363 United States 05/27/2022 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Inside scoop. I worked with the guy who killed shooter at a golf course in San Antonio. He and his buddy got a text from a teacher so they got guns and showed up. Cops were arresting people and had locked the doors and were not letting anyone inside. They snuck past the cops busted out a window and went inside. Didn’t take them long to drop the dirt bag Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82048494 BS You're Saying a random civilian ran inside the school and killed the shooter? If I was that civilian I would be on CNN MSNBC New York times, talking about it on Facebook Zero chance That would be let out of the bag instantly He's talking about another situation! A golf course in San Antonio!! Dear lord, and you call it BS? Were you there? Ummm why would he be talking about a shooting in San Antonio on this thread? He's making it sound like the person who shot the shooter in San Antonio.. got called by a teacher during this shooting He literally says got a text from a teacher so got guns and shows up |