Timber! Lumber prices are falling hard | |
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Everything User ID: 80628258 United States 06/10/2022 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If these people had a brain cell among them, they would be working in a hurry to wind back to the Gold standard in a hurry, just put the prices back on Gold Standard which means, put the real worth of money into gold and forget your fiat money pie in the sky. Gold, Silver and Copper plus any of the Nickel or other precious metal. They know what has to be changed back, the salaries of the lower people hasn't gone up since those times, it is a magic trick to make people think they are coming up in the world as they get into more debt. There has been no more wealth built in the population than they had before they took the gold standard away. Money has to be worth something for salaries to climb, or save, you can not save a debt dollar and make anything. So, the crash coming is not a surprise. The big guys take care of themselves and their pals, they have never cared about the people. They are all in a death cult. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80529600 United States 06/10/2022 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe but maybe not. I pass by a very high end homes subdivision on my way to work every day and there are 4 new constructions going on right now in various stages of completion. The slump is for poor people. Rich people don't really care how much lumber costs. Give it time, tard. “Rich” fucks got that way off reaming folks that have less to ream. Most four flushing asswipes are “rich” on paper and leverage. |
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ThePaleOne
traded his horse for a white van User ID: 12564435 Austria 06/10/2022 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well then, my 2 favourite songs about timber: Life is a 100% deadly sexually transmitted disease. Life is to short to be a slave, leave the plantation, go: [link to www.goingyourownway.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80582507 United States 06/10/2022 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lowes in my area sells 2x4 x10 @$10 / taxed/, placed online order .Come to pick up and was presented basically mill scraps , more hole knots than teenager face , bowy plain junk . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82911518 When they shut down country they let chosen ones make killing on sales , set any price they want If you buy lumber regularly, consider getting to know a local sawmill operator. We can't stay in business selling junk like box stores. My prices are cheaper and I don't charge sales or lumber taxes. If you need graded lumber, you can hire a grader or even stamp it yourself (different rules apply in different jurisdictions, but generally most counties have a list of graders they accept). We also don't usually source our logs from these commercial farming operations but rather from naturally grown logs that got removed as part of utility trimming, for example. My fir has much tighter grain than anything you can buy at home depot. Love me some tight grain fir! Shit white wood commercial grown home depot center cut 2x4 has like 2 thick rings and that's it.. maybe a side with some bark still showing and crooked as hell. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80820978 United States 06/10/2022 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Demand is dropping off a cliff around here (western PA). Homes that were finished a month ago are still sitting with nobody to buy them, not even BlackCock. Just wait until mortgage rates hit 8%. With the "offical" inflation rate hitting 8.6% that means the real inflation rate is pushing 24-26% that means 8% on a 30 year is guaranteed even with 830 credit score and zero debt!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82609303 demand here just fucking completely stopped in 2 weeks like the lights fucking went out property prices dropped 25% its the interest rate shock you cannot sell a property anymore to anyone who will loan out 500k with interest rates spiking Where are you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80615595 Netherlands 06/10/2022 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wood like to express my thanks for the pine! Quoting: StellaBlue I need my deck repaired from storm damage last winter... finding lumber is not a problem, but finding LABOR is. I've tried contacting half a dozen contractors, including the Amish... nobody is even returning calls. (Yes the Amish are listed on Google believe it or not) Our insurance, who is supposed to be doing this, has basically thrown up their hands and told us good luck, find your own contractor! what is the reason that they arent returning your calls? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80764306 06/10/2022 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Get this. Went to quote for a job today. 6x1 tanalized 2.4m length £5.12 ex vat at 20%, £1500 for the job, told me that was trade price. Went to another supplier (Jewsons) same amount £330 inc Vat and no delivery charge. Looks like smaller Companies just can't suck up the electric/fuel costs and were unabe to store large amounts during lockdown and hence now having to pay stupid prices for pallet loads. Reckon their be out of business in a few months leaving only the big national companies. |
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User ID: 80966518 United States 06/10/2022 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lowes in my area sells 2x4 x10 @$10 / taxed/, placed online order .Come to pick up and was presented basically mill scraps , more hole knots than teenager face , bowy plain junk . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82911518 When they shut down country they let chosen ones make killing on sales , set any price they want My husband, T., builds cabinets and furniture and he refuses to buy lumber online. He goes to whichever store or lumber yard and hand selects each board - it takes a while but saves time and money in the long run. T. says the good pieces are usually on the bottom. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83444903 United States 06/10/2022 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can a bubble pop if inventory is low and demand is high? Quoting: Butch DeFeo Inventory is coming up a little, but not much. Blackrock, Vanguard, and State Street will buy up the COVID foreclosures in package deals. The average joe won't have access to those foreclosures. Lumber prices falling won't mean house prices will fall. Contractors are charging a LOT to build the houses. Contractors are busy as hell - you can't get one to work for you for a full year or more out. Housing doom will continue as people FLEE the big cities, running to small towns, to bid UP the prices of houses in those small towns. And in the small town near me a 2 x 4 x 8 is $10.75. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM..... :DOOMTOTAL: This. God bless you butch. Housing market won't crash. It will skyrocket even further. |
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User ID: 53407402 United States 06/10/2022 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lowes in my area sells 2x4 x10 @$10 / taxed/, placed online order .Come to pick up and was presented basically mill scraps , more hole knots than teenager face , bowy plain junk . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82911518 When they shut down country they let chosen ones make killing on sales , set any price they want My husband, T., builds cabinets and furniture and he refuses to buy lumber online. He goes to whichever store or lumber yard and hand selects each board - it takes a while but saves time and money in the long run. T. says the good pieces are usually on the bottom. My husband is a cabinet maker and he does the same. You have to check every board to make sure it's not warped. Time consuming. No good deed goes unpunished. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77307456 United States 06/10/2022 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You may get lucky and get some lumber for less than you've been paying, but high lumber prices are here to stay. Every step of the process, from felling to delivery involves gasoline or diesel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82504804 Big box stores have been selling fir for right around $1.50 a board foot and that rarely reflects any changes in the commodities market. Lumber will be very rare after the great culling and implementation of agenda 12/30 |
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User ID: 77761629 United States 06/10/2022 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lowes in my area sells 2x4 x10 @$10 / taxed/, placed online order .Come to pick up and was presented basically mill scraps , more hole knots than teenager face , bowy plain junk . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82911518 When they shut down country they let chosen ones make killing on sales , set any price they want That’s why - NO online orders on my lumber order. Hubs checks out each stick of lumber he buys. |
DNoMo Michele B
User ID: 77761629 United States 06/10/2022 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wood like to express my thanks for the pine! Quoting: StellaBlue I need my deck repaired from storm damage last winter... finding lumber is not a problem, but finding LABOR is. I've tried contacting half a dozen contractors, including the Amish... nobody is even returning calls. (Yes the Amish are listed on Google believe it or not) Our insurance, who is supposed to be doing this, has basically thrown up their hands and told us good luck, find your own contractor! what is the reason that they arent returning your calls? I would guess they have more work than they can handle. |
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User ID: 80886406 United States 06/10/2022 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its over... It was all covid stimulus money Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79921326 Now reality strikes, Ive been in Home Depot and lowes at least 10 times in the last 2 weeks they are always empty Been to Lowes 3 times in last two weeks. During daytime on weekdays. Pretty empty, lots of stock. Don’t know what it looks like on the weekends. Didn’t price any lumber didn’t need any. DrPunch |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79822828 United States 06/10/2022 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lumber dealers have experienced a seesaw of emotions over the past couple of years. Quoting: StellaBlue During the pandemic, supply chain issues and a rise in home projects caused lumber prices to skyrocket. But a shifting macroeconomic environment has left many dealers stumped, per WSJ, with lumber futures dropping 52% since early March. [link to www.theapopkavoice.com (secure)] Less than 50% Remember the rotting lumber they were harboring while they said theres no lumber - lumber shortage? Well that shortage finished rotting and they are experiencing losses now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75476045 United States 06/10/2022 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lowes in my area sells 2x4 x10 @$10 / taxed/, placed online order .Come to pick up and was presented basically mill scraps , more hole knots than teenager face , bowy plain junk . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82911518 When they shut down country they let chosen ones make killing on sales , set any price they want With jews, you lose! |