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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75443116 United States 07/03/2022 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To secure a felony conviction on a felony eluding charge, police and prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused driver understood that he or she should have stopped on account of seeing or hearing a clear signal. Whether a chase ensued and whether the accused driver violated additional traffic laws during the chase will also be a factor in determining if a driver gets convicted of committing a felony offense. |
Lorena Bobbitt's Knife
User ID: 81623094 United States 07/03/2022 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's literally no conservatives on glp anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83064883 No conspiracy shit either. Honestly it's a bunch of bootlicking statists bitching about how we need more government and government power. "Conservatives" on this site are just liberals with red hats. They are exactly what they accuse others of and both sides want to lick boot and force others to do the same. Conservatives have been trapped by the white/black division in to supporting the police state. I'm not for defunding the cops. But I am for retraining and the legalization of drugs. There's no other way. Most of this stems from the war on drugs |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81887851 United States 07/03/2022 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67148497 HORSESHIT They will stop shooting when the protests move uptown, THEY ALWAYS DO This was a massacre, I'm with you. An unarmed black kid shot SIXTY times. This should scare everyone. It happens all the time to white kids but the media is silent. What I also know is they are intent on making this a black\ white thing which pushes the majority of whites to support the cops. Exactly what they want. Division. If we came together and fought the police state things might change. The way it is right now will lead to a limited civil war and then comes the real police state. It's clear what's going on. BLM is the worst thing to happen to the black community. Go to the exclusive neighborhood where the founder lives in her multi-million dollar mansion and ask her. BLM or black lives matter is a protest slogan, not a "non profit" for profit Gig is up GLOWIE in one thread you are posting as a anti-semitic Neo Nazi and here as a BLM supporter. You been busted. It's consistent. BLM supporters are often anti-semitic. Neo Nazi is a bit of a reach, but why not, Hitler was friendly to black people. He liked Jesse Owens a lot better than we did here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81887851 United States 07/03/2022 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's literally no conservatives on glp anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83064883 No conspiracy shit either. Honestly it's a bunch of bootlicking statists bitching about how we need more government and government power. "Conservatives" on this site are just liberals with red hats. They are exactly what they accuse others of and both sides want to lick boot and force others to do the same. Conservatives have been trapped by the white/black division in to supporting the police state. I'm not for defunding the cops. But I am for retraining and the legalization of drugs. There's no other way. Most of this stems from the war on drugs Retraining? If I were a cop, I would not go into these interactions without the ability to use force, and the confidence that doubtful calls would go my way. Well now I wouldn't be a cop anymore. There seem to be some in Akron who didn't get the message after Chauvin, Potter, the Arbery defendants who included an ex-cop, etc. and were still trying to enforce law and order. Hope they come out of this OK. The dead person? Wasn't armed at the end, but was shooting earlier, someone forgot to mention that oops. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81887851 United States 07/03/2022 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eluding is defined in an Ohio statute titled Failure to Comply With Order or Signal of Police Officers (O.R.C. 2921.331). Under that law, “willfully” driving or running away from a traffic stop is prosecuted as a felony of the third degree when eluding poses a serious threat of injury or actually leads to injuries. A driver can also be charged and prosecuted for any traffic violations he or she commits while eluding police. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75443116 To secure a felony conviction on a felony eluding charge, police and prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused driver understood that he or she should have stopped on account of seeing or hearing a clear signal. Whether a chase ensued and whether the accused driver violated additional traffic laws during the chase will also be a factor in determining if a driver gets convicted of committing a felony offense. Cop doesn't have to see the elements for a felony conviction before chasing a suspect trying to escape. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81887851 United States 07/03/2022 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73421769 So him running from the cops and leading them on a high speed chase (which is on video) is true but everything else is made up. Well, the cops claim he didn't shoot until 40 seconds after the officer tried to initiate the stop. So, what were they attempting to stop him for that was worthy of a high speed chase? Tail light out? They've been suspiciously quiet about the actual reason for the stop - likely because it was a "young male in the wrong neighborhood at night" stop. So that's the formula? When the cop flashes his light bar at you, you speed up and he's not supposed to follow because that would be a high speed chase? I think that depends whether or not the officer observed a felony BEFORE initiating the chase. I'm not sure what the law is in Akron, OH but in many places the cops may not pursue on a misdemeanor. Fleeing/evading typically isn't a felony either. Add to that, in many states(but not all) traffic infractions are a CIVIL CITATION not a criminal misdemeanor so they don't have any authority at all to chase. Someone else will need to speak to what the law is in Akron Ohio. Are you sure? I'm quite sure I can't just get out of being pulled over for a broken taillight, by hitting the accelerator. And if speeding per-se is not even a misdemeanor, they can't pursue for that either, by your logic. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83385706 07/03/2022 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eluding is defined in an Ohio statute titled Failure to Comply With Order or Signal of Police Officers (O.R.C. 2921.331). Under that law, “willfully” driving or running away from a traffic stop is prosecuted as a felony of the third degree when eluding poses a serious threat of injury or actually leads to injuries. A driver can also be charged and prosecuted for any traffic violations he or she commits while eluding police. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75443116 To secure a felony conviction on a felony eluding charge, police and prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused driver understood that he or she should have stopped on account of seeing or hearing a clear signal. Whether a chase ensued and whether the accused driver violated additional traffic laws during the chase will also be a factor in determining if a driver gets convicted of committing a felony offense. Right... Keywords being "when eluding poses a serious threat of injury or actually leads to injuries". Otherwise, it's a misdemeanor. The Akron policy mirrors the state statute so no chasing on misdemeanors. This article says the original cause for stop was an "equipment violation": [link to www.usatoday.com (secure)] I can't imagine an equipment violation being anything more than something like non-approved lightning or "illegal" tint. Sure sounds like a dangerous criminal worth chasing to me! I somehow doubt an equipment violation is a Felony in Ohio unless you mounted a missile launcher or something on your car. |
Lorena Bobbitt's Knife
User ID: 81623094 United States 07/03/2022 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's literally no conservatives on glp anymore. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83064883 No conspiracy shit either. Honestly it's a bunch of bootlicking statists bitching about how we need more government and government power. "Conservatives" on this site are just liberals with red hats. They are exactly what they accuse others of and both sides want to lick boot and force others to do the same. Conservatives have been trapped by the white/black division in to supporting the police state. I'm not for defunding the cops. But I am for retraining and the legalization of drugs. There's no other way. Most of this stems from the war on drugs Retraining? If I were a cop, I would not go into these interactions without the ability to use force, and the confidence that doubtful calls would go my way. Well now I wouldn't be a cop anymore. There seem to be some in Akron who didn't get the message after Chauvin, Potter, the Arbery defendants who included an ex-cop, etc. and were still trying to enforce law and order. Hope they come out of this OK. The dead person? Wasn't armed at the end, but was shooting earlier, someone forgot to mention that oops. They say a gun went off while he was driving in his car. Not at the cops. His back window wasn't shattered. No bullet out of there. He didn't shoot out of the door windows. They better hope there is a bullet hole inside the car. He was shot at, while unarmed, 90+ times and shot 60+ times AT CLOSE RANGE. This one is bad. Optics are VERY BAD. No way around it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83385706 07/03/2022 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eluding is defined in an Ohio statute titled Failure to Comply With Order or Signal of Police Officers (O.R.C. 2921.331). Under that law, “willfully” driving or running away from a traffic stop is prosecuted as a felony of the third degree when eluding poses a serious threat of injury or actually leads to injuries. A driver can also be charged and prosecuted for any traffic violations he or she commits while eluding police. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75443116 To secure a felony conviction on a felony eluding charge, police and prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused driver understood that he or she should have stopped on account of seeing or hearing a clear signal. Whether a chase ensued and whether the accused driver violated additional traffic laws during the chase will also be a factor in determining if a driver gets convicted of committing a felony offense. Cop doesn't have to see the elements for a felony conviction before chasing a suspect trying to escape. They do in Akron, Ohio. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83385706 07/03/2022 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83385706 Well, the cops claim he didn't shoot until 40 seconds after the officer tried to initiate the stop. So, what were they attempting to stop him for that was worthy of a high speed chase? Tail light out? They've been suspiciously quiet about the actual reason for the stop - likely because it was a "young male in the wrong neighborhood at night" stop. So that's the formula? When the cop flashes his light bar at you, you speed up and he's not supposed to follow because that would be a high speed chase? I think that depends whether or not the officer observed a felony BEFORE initiating the chase. I'm not sure what the law is in Akron, OH but in many places the cops may not pursue on a misdemeanor. Fleeing/evading typically isn't a felony either. Add to that, in many states(but not all) traffic infractions are a CIVIL CITATION not a criminal misdemeanor so they don't have any authority at all to chase. Someone else will need to speak to what the law is in Akron Ohio. Are you sure? I'm quite sure I can't just get out of being pulled over for a broken taillight, by hitting the accelerator. And if speeding per-se is not even a misdemeanor, they can't pursue for that either, by your logic. It's not my logic, it's the courts and states' logic. I already posted the law and the City of Akron PD's chase policy as mandated by the state legislature. |
Lorena Bobbitt's Knife
User ID: 81623094 United States 07/03/2022 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83385706 Well, the cops claim he didn't shoot until 40 seconds after the officer tried to initiate the stop. So, what were they attempting to stop him for that was worthy of a high speed chase? Tail light out? They've been suspiciously quiet about the actual reason for the stop - likely because it was a "young male in the wrong neighborhood at night" stop. So that's the formula? When the cop flashes his light bar at you, you speed up and he's not supposed to follow because that would be a high speed chase? I think that depends whether or not the officer observed a felony BEFORE initiating the chase. I'm not sure what the law is in Akron, OH but in many places the cops may not pursue on a misdemeanor. Fleeing/evading typically isn't a felony either. Add to that, in many states(but not all) traffic infractions are a CIVIL CITATION not a criminal misdemeanor so they don't have any authority at all to chase. Someone else will need to speak to what the law is in Akron Ohio. Are you sure? I'm quite sure I can't just get out of being pulled over for a broken taillight, by hitting the accelerator. And if speeding per-se is not even a misdemeanor, they can't pursue for that either, by your logic. Well, when they issue the warrant for your arrest and later get you at home, you can go to jail for a tail light. It's your right to choose |
The Don Of Nantucket
User ID: 80692948 United States 07/03/2022 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When are stupid white people going to stand up and acknowledge that these sub 80 IQ savages have no place in society? What are you afraid of? Being canceled on social media? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80193056 :puin: I agree. The police have no useful function. When they're gone, you'll beg for them to come back. When they do, you'll realize what a real police state is. We have a burgeoning police state right now. Police need to be retrained, not eliminated. Unfortunately we need more. If drugs were legal, half this shit wouldn't happen. Cops are incentivized to search your car over drugs, anyway they can. Half the raids on house using military tactics, kicking in your door, shooting your dog or you are over drugs. Our cops use Israeli IDF tactics and protocols. Not being racists just stating a fact. PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83792055 07/03/2022 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to vidmax.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83792055 Doesn’t excuse extrajudicial killings, but, again…. [link to vidmax.com (secure)] Almost a year to the date… I smell a large scale waste management honeypot. Clean that nlgga shit up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83385706 07/03/2022 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81887851 So that's the formula? When the cop flashes his light bar at you, you speed up and he's not supposed to follow because that would be a high speed chase? I think that depends whether or not the officer observed a felony BEFORE initiating the chase. I'm not sure what the law is in Akron, OH but in many places the cops may not pursue on a misdemeanor. Fleeing/evading typically isn't a felony either. Add to that, in many states(but not all) traffic infractions are a CIVIL CITATION not a criminal misdemeanor so they don't have any authority at all to chase. Someone else will need to speak to what the law is in Akron Ohio. Are you sure? I'm quite sure I can't just get out of being pulled over for a broken taillight, by hitting the accelerator. And if speeding per-se is not even a misdemeanor, they can't pursue for that either, by your logic. Well, when they issue the warrant for your arrest and later get you at home, you can go to jail for a tail light. It's your right to choose Right. In the case of misdemeanor they can take down a description and plate and get a bench warrant. No need to chase. I've lived in at least 3 states where it is illegal for the cops to chase on a misdemeanor. Looks like Ohio is a fourth. I am aware of it because back in the 90s there was a suspect and bystander killed in a 128Mph chase through a residential area and the original perp (attempted stop for speeding) was not going 30 over (29 over according to receipt from radar gun) and was exonerated in death as judge said standard for "serious risk to life or injury" started at reckless driving which at the time was 30 over. The case resulted in a no chase law over 90mph and they reduced the reckless to 20 over and officer was charged and convicted of manslaughter for engaging in an illegal pursuit resulting in death and went to jail for 10 years. We'll see what happens here but it sounds like an illegal pursuit. Ohio had a case about this last year which is when the chase policies were implemented according to my research. Since there seems to be some indication now this was an accidental discharge... I'm not even sure an accidental discharge in a private vehicle is illegal? Usually have to show intent there. I could see the guy scrambling to remove a concealed gun from his waistband under panic while driving and accidentally firing the gun. How do they even know it was the gun that went off? Could have gotten a text and the flash on his phone went off as some can be set to do that. I don't see or hear any gunshots in the officer's video. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83792755 07/03/2022 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83385706 I think that depends whether or not the officer observed a felony BEFORE initiating the chase. I'm not sure what the law is in Akron, OH but in many places the cops may not pursue on a misdemeanor. Fleeing/evading typically isn't a felony either. Add to that, in many states(but not all) traffic infractions are a CIVIL CITATION not a criminal misdemeanor so they don't have any authority at all to chase. Someone else will need to speak to what the law is in Akron Ohio. Are you sure? I'm quite sure I can't just get out of being pulled over for a broken taillight, by hitting the accelerator. And if speeding per-se is not even a misdemeanor, they can't pursue for that either, by your logic. Well, when they issue the warrant for your arrest and later get you at home, you can go to jail for a tail light. It's your right to choose Right. In the case of misdemeanor they can take down a description and plate and get a bench warrant. No need to chase. I've lived in at least 3 states where it is illegal for the cops to chase on a misdemeanor. Looks like Ohio is a fourth. Still trying justify this cultural bs, huh? Why be belligerent in any respects if you’re innocent? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83385706 07/03/2022 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81887851 Are you sure? I'm quite sure I can't just get out of being pulled over for a broken taillight, by hitting the accelerator. And if speeding per-se is not even a misdemeanor, they can't pursue for that either, by your logic. Well, when they issue the warrant for your arrest and later get you at home, you can go to jail for a tail light. It's your right to choose Right. In the case of misdemeanor they can take down a description and plate and get a bench warrant. No need to chase. I've lived in at least 3 states where it is illegal for the cops to chase on a misdemeanor. Looks like Ohio is a fourth. Still trying justify this cultural bs, huh? Why be belligerent in any respects if you’re innocent? Why illegally chase a suspect and then fire at him 90 times while in a residential neighborhood if you've sworn to uphold the law and protect the public? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83792755 07/03/2022 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lorena Bobbitt's Knife Well, when they issue the warrant for your arrest and later get you at home, you can go to jail for a tail light. It's your right to choose Right. In the case of misdemeanor they can take down a description and plate and get a bench warrant. No need to chase. I've lived in at least 3 states where it is illegal for the cops to chase on a misdemeanor. Looks like Ohio is a fourth. Still trying justify this cultural bs, huh? Why be belligerent in any respects if you’re innocent? Why illegally chase a suspect and then fire at him 90 times while in a residential neighborhood if you've sworn to uphold the law and protect the public? Because, WE have a target on our backs to begin with, Malcolm. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83792755 07/03/2022 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lorena Bobbitt's Knife Well, when they issue the warrant for your arrest and later get you at home, you can go to jail for a tail light. It's your right to choose Right. In the case of misdemeanor they can take down a description and plate and get a bench warrant. No need to chase. I've lived in at least 3 states where it is illegal for the cops to chase on a misdemeanor. Looks like Ohio is a fourth. Still trying justify this cultural bs, huh? Why be belligerent in any respects if you’re innocent? Why illegally chase a suspect and then fire at him 90 times while in a residential neighborhood if you've sworn to uphold the law and protect the public? Because, with community policing and reasonable suspicion, they may have already had this guy PEGGED! Real world shit. Technology is a bitch, Freedumb fighter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83385706 07/03/2022 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83385706 Right. In the case of misdemeanor they can take down a description and plate and get a bench warrant. No need to chase. I've lived in at least 3 states where it is illegal for the cops to chase on a misdemeanor. Looks like Ohio is a fourth. Still trying justify this cultural bs, huh? Why be belligerent in any respects if you’re innocent? Why illegally chase a suspect and then fire at him 90 times while in a residential neighborhood if you've sworn to uphold the law and protect the public? Because, WE have a target on our backs to begin with, Malcolm. It couldn't possibly be that the treatment of US citizens as domestic enemy combatants by police departments nationwide has resulted in that outcome, could it? The #1 problem in the US law enforcement system is in my opinion the rampant militarization of police departments and the treatment of all citizens as potential criminals. You're in a target rich environment when you've made everyone else your enemy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83792755 07/03/2022 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83792755 Still trying justify this cultural bs, huh? Why be belligerent in any respects if you’re innocent? Why illegally chase a suspect and then fire at him 90 times while in a residential neighborhood if you've sworn to uphold the law and protect the public? Because, WE have a target on our backs to begin with, Malcolm. It couldn't possibly be that the treatment of US citizens as domestic enemy combatants by police departments nationwide has resulted in that outcome, could it? The #1 problem in the US law enforcement system is in my opinion the rampant militarization of police departments and the treatment of all citizens as potential criminals. You're in a target rich environment when you've made everyone else your enemy. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. Fucking learn that phrase! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83385706 07/03/2022 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83385706 Right. In the case of misdemeanor they can take down a description and plate and get a bench warrant. No need to chase. I've lived in at least 3 states where it is illegal for the cops to chase on a misdemeanor. Looks like Ohio is a fourth. Still trying justify this cultural bs, huh? Why be belligerent in any respects if you’re innocent? Why illegally chase a suspect and then fire at him 90 times while in a residential neighborhood if you've sworn to uphold the law and protect the public? Because, with community policing and reasonable suspicion, they may have already had this guy PEGGED! Real world shit. Technology is a bitch, Freedumb fighter. Sounds like your tech was wrong given that the suspect had no criminal record. There's really only a certain generation that continues to operate under the "magical computer tells the future" delusion. In fact, it's exactly why we have courts and laws and standards of evidence because Barney Fife's "hunches" aren't law and police officers are not judges, juries, nor executioners. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83792755 07/03/2022 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83792755 Still trying justify this cultural bs, huh? Why be belligerent in any respects if you’re innocent? Why illegally chase a suspect and then fire at him 90 times while in a residential neighborhood if you've sworn to uphold the law and protect the public? Because, with community policing and reasonable suspicion, they may have already had this guy PEGGED! Real world shit. Technology is a bitch, Freedumb fighter. Sounds like your tech was wrong given that the suspect had no criminal record. There's really only a certain generation that continues to operate under the "magical computer tells the future" delusion. In fact, it's exactly why we have courts and laws and standards of evidence because Barney Fife's "hunches" aren't law and police officers are not judges, juries, nor executioners. Agreed. He should have probably accepted that win and not run, then? You admit. I’ll stand as a Man in the face of a lynch mob. How about you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83792755 07/03/2022 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83792755 Still trying justify this cultural bs, huh? Why be belligerent in any respects if you’re innocent? Why illegally chase a suspect and then fire at him 90 times while in a residential neighborhood if you've sworn to uphold the law and protect the public? Because, with community policing and reasonable suspicion, they may have already had this guy PEGGED! Real world shit. Technology is a bitch, Freedumb fighter. Sounds like your tech was wrong given that the suspect had no criminal record. There's really only a certain generation that continues to operate under the "magical computer tells the future" delusion. In fact, it's exactly why we have courts and laws and standards of evidence because Barney Fife's "hunches" aren't law and police officers are not judges, juries, nor executioners. How many deaths you willing to die? Thousands? I’ll die once. Thanks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83385706 07/03/2022 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83385706 Why illegally chase a suspect and then fire at him 90 times while in a residential neighborhood if you've sworn to uphold the law and protect the public? Because, with community policing and reasonable suspicion, they may have already had this guy PEGGED! Real world shit. Technology is a bitch, Freedumb fighter. Sounds like your tech was wrong given that the suspect had no criminal record. There's really only a certain generation that continues to operate under the "magical computer tells the future" delusion. In fact, it's exactly why we have courts and laws and standards of evidence because Barney Fife's "hunches" aren't law and police officers are not judges, juries, nor executioners. Agreed. He should have probably accepted that win and not run, then? You admit. I’ll stand as a Man in the face of a lynch mob. How about you? He probably should not have run. Doesn't excuse engaging in an illegal pursuit and then openly murdering a suspect over window tint. |