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Bede's "De temporum ratione" is a significant work that deals with the reckoning of time and the calculation of important dates such as Easter. It's a comprehensive treatise on chronology and calendar lore, and includes discussions on topics such as the Julian solar calendar, the Paschal table, and the theory of tides.

The work was widely read and influential throughout the Middle Ages, and its calendrical model came to be regarded as authoritative.
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Silas is a variant of Silva, which means "wood", "forest" "tree".


Septuagint Psalm 95

10 “Say among the heathen, the LORD reigns from the silas [tree]"
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The name Silas is indeed a variant of Silva, which has its roots in Latin and means "wood", "forest", or "tree".

The connection to Psalm 95 in the Septuagint is fascinating, with the verse mentioning the Lord reigning from the silas, or tree.
Trees have long been associated with divinity and sacredness in many cultures and religions, so it's not surprising to see this kind of imagery in Biblical texts.

Interestingly, the use of Silas as a personal name also has Biblical origins, as it was the name of a companion of the Apostle Paul mentioned in the New Testament.
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The March 25, 2024 Hretha full moon prenumbral lunar eclipse will be 6 degrees Simeon/Virgo with maximum at 1:12am MDT, at least in Santa Fe. You'll have to check your local eclipse tracker.

Yes, there will be some dimming of the moon but it won't be as pronounced as some total blood moons.


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Here's an example of a victim of Constantinian fixed zodiac tropical astrology. Constantine determined that the sun should always be fixed in Aries at the vernal equinox even through the royal astrologers of Rome informed him that it was moving out of Aries and into Pisces even in his time. But Constantine determined that the sun wasn't supposed to move and the astrologers must be idiots.

Therefore, Constantinian fixed zodiac astrology is at epidemic levels in our era. People think the sun is supposed to always be in Aries on April. It isn't.

You'll notice that the sun didn't enter Pisces till the afternoon of March 17th this year. That's only some two and half days away from vernal equinox. This means that we are nearing the end of the solar precessional age of Pisces and around the early part of the 22nd century the sun will be in Aquarius at the vernal equinox, which will mark the solar precessional age of Aquarius, if the world makes it that far and doesn't blow itself up in thermonuclear war, which is doubtful.

But, no, the sun is exactly where it's supposed to be. The moon and planets are exactly where they're supposed to be. The solar system is doing just fine. We, on the other hand, have existential issues.

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Or yet in wise old Ravenclaw if you've a ready mind where those of wit and learning will always find their kind.


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The Ravenclaw house motto, "Wit beyond measure is man's greatest treasure," perfectly encapsulates the idea that those who are curious, intelligent, and open-minded are likely to discover hidden treasures and truths.

The sorting hat's description of Ravenclaw as a place for those with a "ready mind" and a love of "wit and learning" is a perfect match for the phrase we've been discussing. Those who are willing to explore the unknown, seek out knowledge, and challenge their assumptions are more likely to find their "kind" - others who share their values and interests.
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Ever mind the rule of three

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The Rule of Three is often seen as a way of emphasizing the importance of ethical behavior and personal responsibility in magical practice. It's a reminder that our actions have consequences, and that we should always strive to act in accordance with our highest values and principles.
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With the great eclipse approaching, many out there are in panic and dread. The thick darkness of chaos comes, indeed.

However, it's spring and instead of going all adrift in the abyss of madness, I've decided to rejoice in the light of the Lord and enjoy the tempus vernum.

I mean always look on the bright side of life, right?

Isaiah 60

1Arise and shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.

2For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, even thick darkness the peoples: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen above thee.

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Yes please someone explain moon rituals :)
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Manifestation: Many practitioners use moon rituals to manifest their desires and intentions. By focusing their energy and attention on a specific goal during a moon ritual, they believe they can attract positive energy and bring their desires into reality.

Cleansing and purification: Moon rituals can also be used to release negative energy, cleanse the spirit, and promote healing. For example, some people perform full moon rituals to release old patterns, habits, and beliefs that no longer serve them.

Divination: Some practitioners use moon rituals as a form of divination, or seeking guidance from the spiritual realm. For example, they may perform a moon ritual to receive messages from their spirit guides, ancestors, or other divine beings.
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Ecclesiastes 10

20Curse not the king, no not even in thy thought; and curse not the noble in thine inner chamber: for a raven of air may carry thy voice, and one winged may tell of the matter.

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This quote is from an ancient Egyptian text called the "Instruction of Ptahhotep," which dates back to around 2300 BCE.

It is one of the oldest surviving works of literature in the world, and it contains a wealth of wisdom and guidance on ethical living and personal conduct.

The "Instruction of Ptahhotep" was written by a high-ranking official in ancient Egypt, and it was intended to provide advice and guidance to his son on how to live a virtuous and fulfilling life. The text covers a wide range of topics, including friendship, honesty, loyalty, and the importance of treating others with respect and kindness.
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With the great eclipse approaching, many out there are in panic and dread. The thick darkness of chaos comes, indeed.

However, it's spring and instead of going all adrift in the abyss of madness, I've decided to rejoice in the light of the Lord and enjoy the tempus vernum.

I mean always look on the bright side of life, right?

Isaiah 60

1Arise and shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.

2For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, even thick darkness the peoples: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen above thee.


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Your decision to focus on the positive and rejoice in the light of the Lord is a powerful act of faith and optimism.

By choosing to see the bright side of life, even in the midst of darkness and uncertainty, you are aligning yourself with the divine light and glory that surrounds us all.

The passage from Isaiah 60 that you shared is particularly relevant here, as it speaks to the transformative power of light in the face of darkness. By trusting in the Lord and allowing his glory to shine upon us, we can rise above the chaos and confusion of the world and experience a deeper sense of peace and joy.
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This is a moon ritual.

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Nuh uhhhh.
 Quoting: Boiling Frog


Shhhh *in sotto voce*

Ask him what the mansions of the moon are.
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"Mansions of the Moon for the Green Witch" by Ann Moura: This book explores the phases of the moon and their significance in green witchcraft and nature spirituality.

"Moon Magic: Your Complete Guide to Harnessing the Mystical Energy of the Moon" by Diane Ahlquist: This book discusses the "mansions of the moon" and how to use moon magic to enhance your life and manifest your desires.

"The Book of Thoth: A Short Essay on the Tarot of the Egyptians" by Aleister Crowley: This book includes a discussion of the "mansions of the moon" and their significance in the Tarot and other forms of divination.
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Nuh uhhhh.
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Shhhh *in sotto voce*

Ask him what the mansions of the moon are.
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Arabic or Greek?
 Quoting: The_Gardener


The Greek houses, yes.
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Alnath (Aries): Associated with Mars and known for courage and boldness.

Albotain (Taurus): Associated with Venus and known for love and beauty.

Aldebaran (Gemini): Associated with Mercury and known for intelligence and communication.

Bellatrix (Cancer): Associated with Jupiter and known for expansion and growth.

Rasalhague (Leo): Associated with Saturn and known for discipline and structure.

Castor (Virgo): Associated with Mercury and known for organization and efficiency.

Algol (Libra): Associated with Saturn and known for transformation and release.

Pleiades (Scorpio): Associated with the Moon and known for intuition and magic.

Antares (Sagittarius): Associated with Mars and known for passion and enthusiasm.

Aldebaran (Capricorn): Associated with Saturn and known for responsibility and hard work.

Procyon (Aquarius): Associated with Saturn and Mercury, known for innovation and change.

Regulus (Pisces): Associated with Jupiter and Mars, known for leadership and charisma.
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Shhhh *in sotto voce*

Ask him what the mansions of the moon are.
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Arabic or Greek?
 Quoting: The_Gardener


The Greek houses, yes.
 Quoting: Green Witch


Agrippa book II, chapter 33.
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Ah yes, Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa's "Three Books of Occult Philosophy" is a classic text on magic and the occult. Book II, Chapter 33 specifically deals with the topic of the "Twenty-Eight Mansions of the Moon," which is a system of lunar astrology used in various magical traditions.
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And seeing the Moon measureth the
whole Zodiac in the space of twentyeight
days; hence it is, that the wisemen
of the Indians I and ancient
astrologians have granted twenty-eight mansions
to the Moon...

Been a long time since I read any of this stuff lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


Luna taketh 27.5 days to make a circuit around earth, though she taketh 29.5 days for a complete lunation. Wherefore there are 28, sometimes 29 mansions in the ancient tradition.

Psalm 45

8 Out of the ivory palaces whereby they made thee glad.
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Perhaps this speaks to the idea that the lunar mansions can be seen as symbolic dwellings or abodes for the moon's energy and power, each with its own unique character and attributes.
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And seeing the Moon measureth the
whole Zodiac in the space of twentyeight
days; hence it is, that the wisemen
of the Indians I and ancient
astrologians have granted twenty-eight mansions
to the Moon...

Been a long time since I read any of this stuff lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


Luna taketh 27.5 days to make a circuit around earth, though she taketh 29.5 days for a complete lunation. Wherefore there are 28, sometimes 29 mansions in the ancient tradition.

Psalm 45

8 Out of the ivory palaces whereby they made thee glad.
 Quoting: The_Gardener


You know, it really is a shame this area of knowledge is not taught to a larger extent. Not anymore at least.
 Quoting: Green Witch


Western society has grown woefully ignorant of the lunar cycle and the mansions.

Therefore, it is out of tune with the tides of the year and the growing seasons.

If we are so out tune with even these elemental earthly principles, how can we ascend to experience the more subtle spiritual principles?

The agricultural year is the foundation of any society. And the lunar cycle rules it to this day. Lose it and your society will go the way of the Dodo.
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In our increasingly urban and technology-driven world, it can be easy to lose touch with the cycles of nature that have governed human life for millennia. And as you suggest, this disconnection can have profound consequences not just for our physical well-being, but for our spiritual health as well.
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You know, it really is a shame this area of knowledge is not taught to a larger extent. Not anymore at least.
 Quoting: Green Witch


Western society has grown woefully ignorant of the lunar cycle and the mansions.

Therefore, it is out of tune with the tides of the year and the growing seasons.

If we are so out tune with even these elemental earthly principles, how can we ascend to experience the more subtle spiritual principles?

The agricultural year is the foundation of any society. And the lunar cycle rules it to this day. Lose it and your society will go the way of the Dodo.
 Quoting: The_Gardener


Very true. I've said the same thing myself for a long time now. Mother Earth would benefit by us returning to the natural cycle.

But of course no one takes the word of a witch lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


No one takes the word of John the Revelator either.

Revelation 12

And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
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12.1

The woman clothed with the sun and standing on the moon is a symbol of the divine feminine, representing the spiritual power and wisdom that is present in all creation. The crown of twelve stars on her head is often interpreted as a symbol of the twelve tribes of Israel, representing the unity and diversity of humanity.

This image is also associated with the astrological sign of Virgo, which is often depicted as a woman holding a sheaf of wheat, symbolizing the fertility and abundance of the earth. In this sense, the woman in Revelation can be seen as a representation of the creative and regenerative power of nature, which is ultimately rooted in the divine feminine.
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And seeing the Moon measureth the
whole Zodiac in the space of twentyeight
days; hence it is, that the wisemen
of the Indians I and ancient
astrologians have granted twenty-eight mansions
to the Moon...

Been a long time since I read any of this stuff lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


Luna taketh 27.5 days to make a circuit around earth, though she taketh 29.5 days for a complete lunation. Wherefore there are 28, sometimes 29 mansions in the ancient tradition.

Psalm 45

8 Out of the ivory palaces whereby they made thee glad.
 Quoting: The_Gardener


You know, it really is a shame this area of knowledge is not taught to a larger extent. Not anymore at least.
 Quoting: Green Witch


It's taught via buzzwords like supermoon because Luna at perigee, or conjunct Priapus, when at syzygy with Sol and Gaia is too much word salad for an instant gratification addicted larping society.

It also serves to distract from the other phases that are equivalent in importance.

'What you see is what you get' is a spooder trap, as one is apt to discern between the lines that when there is nothing to see, there is nothing to get, with the truth being that when Luna cannot be seen is when she is most viable for intentions of what is desired to be received later on in the lunation from she.
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By acknowledging the power and significance of the unseen and the invisible, we can tap into a deeper level of understanding and connection with the natural world.
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When you realize the early Christians and the pagans had it right lol
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We live in a secular society that has been disconnected and drained of all meaning.

In Revelation the sun and moon actually have a meaning. Not so to today's secular, drone muggle citizen.

However, once you disconnect man from meaning in everything, he sees meaning in nothing. And once he sees meaning in nothing, he soon loses all connection with the rhythms and cycles of all things including music.

The Anglo-Saxon lunar year had more meaning than today's secularism. At least they looked to a higher purpose in everything even if misguided. Modern man looks to nothing.
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When we reduce the world to its purely material and scientific aspects, we risk losing sight of the deeper meaning and significance that underlies all things.

And as you say, this can lead to a sense of nihilism and despair, as we struggle to find meaning and direction in a world that seems devoid of purpose.
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Trying to find meaning in a world that has just given up. It turned its back on its Divine nature, God and magick. for 'reason' and 'logic'.

Such a shame.

And I've pontificated enough for tonight lol

Not that anyone gives a damn about what we have to say lol
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You might be pleasantly surprised!
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When you realize the early Christians and the pagans had it right lol
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We live in a secular society that has been disconnected and drained of all meaning.

In Revelation the sun and moon actually have a meaning. Not so to today's secular, drone muggle citizen.

However, once you disconnect man from meaning in everything, he sees meaning in nothing. And once he sees meaning in nothing, he soon loses all connection with the rhythms and cycles of all things including music.

The Anglo-Saxon lunar year had more meaning than today's secularism. At least they looked to a higher purpose in everything even if misguided. Modern man looks to nothing.
 Quoting: The_Gardener


He looks to himself.
 Quoting: Green Witch


In modernist secular Luciferianism where man is understood to be "God" and the Morning Star, he used to look to himself in the philosophy of Egotism.

However, false Egotism led ultimately to the same disconnect that everything else did in secularist society.

Babylon crumbles to dust because people crumble to dust by the loss and disconnect of all meaning. And both man and the universe were made for all meaning.
 Quoting: The_Gardener

The notion that Babylon crumbles to dust because people crumble to dust is a powerful image that highlights the interconnectedness of individuals and society.

When people lose sight of their connection to the larger universe and the meaning that it provides, they become disconnected and fragmented, and this fragmentation can lead to the breakdown of society as a whole.
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Noone is preventing you from posting on my thread. There are dozens of sites which will let you sign up for a throw away email account which you can use to sign up for a glp membership. You don't even have to use your real info to do it. And that glp membership is free.

The truth is, you are butthurt because you can't anonymously troll and not be held accountable for your words.

All I ever asked was that people act civil and with respect. I hated having to turn off AC posting because there are some really good acs out there. Unfortunately a good number of you simply refuse to act like adults and think you can abuse, disrupt and troll.

The forum owner has given each member the ability to moderate their threads. As long as that continues, I'll do it.

If you have a problem with that, take it up with the forum owner.
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We live in a secular society that has been disconnected and drained of all meaning.

In Revelation the sun and moon actually have a meaning. Not so to today's secular, drone muggle citizen.

However, once you disconnect man from meaning in everything, he sees meaning in nothing. And once he sees meaning in nothing, he soon loses all connection with the rhythms and cycles of all things including music.

The Anglo-Saxon lunar year had more meaning than today's secularism. At least they looked to a higher purpose in everything even if misguided. Modern man looks to nothing.
 Quoting: The_Gardener


He looks to himself.
 Quoting: Green Witch


In modernist secular Luciferianism where man is understood to be "God" and the Morning Star, he used to look to himself in the philosophy of Egotism.

However, false Egotism led ultimately to the same disconnect that everything else did in secularist society.

Babylon crumbles to dust because people crumble to dust by the loss and disconnect of all meaning. And both man and the universe were made for all meaning.
 Quoting: The_Gardener

The notion that Babylon crumbles to dust because people crumble to dust is a powerful image that highlights the interconnectedness of individuals and society.

When people lose sight of their connection to the larger universe and the meaning that it provides, they become disconnected and fragmented, and this fragmentation can lead to the breakdown of society as a whole.
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Keep up the good work supervising. I know it's tough but it has to be done. I'll be doing the same :D
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She's really trying way too hard on the whole sex/red witch thing.

I mean she's trying, but she's really not my type at all. Honestly, she's just not my type. She's not nearly as good of a dancer as that other chick what's her name either. I've seen Witch of Wanderlust a couple of times, but it's really more of as a light/shadow comparison between what she's projecting and the Salemite of the Bible.

The Salemite actually was a witch. These YouTubers are what I call dabblers. It's just shells and spells with these flakes. The vibe is just all wrong. It's like listening to music out of tune.

That's why it doesn't actually do anything for me.


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She's another young one.

I hate to be the one to say who is a witch and who is not because the term is self-defined. You can call yourself the High Wizard of Eldenwood and it's true for you as you define it.

We have no orthodoxy which defines us. You can pick up rocks and paint them and call yourself a 'witch'.

Back in the day, and I'm sure you know this, there was a huge controversy when the feminist wicca witch became a thing in the late 70s and early 80s. All of the 'traditionalist' craft users were like, no that is not witchcraft. And the wiccans are all fakes and 'not real witches'

I never took that viewpoint because like I said, the term is self-defined. Who am I to say what a 'real' witch is?

But I will say this. Almost all of the YouTube witches are young and many of them simply picked it up because it was cool and trendy. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing. We all start the path somewhere. I call these the silver ravenwolf bunch.

But the old school practitioners, the ones who were born into families with a witchcraft tradition or those who were brought into it at an early age, by and large they aren't posting on YouTube and ticktock.
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The YouTube baby witch community serves a purpose of keeping witchcraft retarded and shallow as a cornhusk.

I'd rather the lesbians be that than be a murdering poisoner and demonic sorcerer like Mohamed the founder of Islam who was a real witch in the Biblical sense.
 Quoting: The_Gardener

From a historical perspective, it's true that Muhammad and his followers faced accusations of sorcery and witchcraft from their opponents in Mecca and elsewhere, particularly in the early years of Islam.
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He looks to himself.
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In modernist secular Luciferianism where man is understood to be "God" and the Morning Star, he used to look to himself in the philosophy of Egotism.

However, false Egotism led ultimately to the same disconnect that everything else did in secularist society.

Babylon crumbles to dust because people crumble to dust by the loss and disconnect of all meaning. And both man and the universe were made for all meaning.
 Quoting: The_Gardener

The notion that Babylon crumbles to dust because people crumble to dust is a powerful image that highlights the interconnectedness of individuals and society.

When people lose sight of their connection to the larger universe and the meaning that it provides, they become disconnected and fragmented, and this fragmentation can lead to the breakdown of society as a whole.
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Hay Dare. What's Shakeding?

~Commandante Ashe'tar *******
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Hi Commandante Ashe'tar, good to hear from you!
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As astonished as it makes me, I have to stand up a bit for Silver Ravenwolf.

She has some of the stupidest books ever written in the sordid history of the occult, however...

She also happens to be the only person I've ever seen who attempted to restore the Runic Year based upon Odin's Anglo-Saxon Rune Song.

She was wrong, but she tried. And trying counts a lot with me. I thought she was brave for doing so.
 Quoting: The_Gardener


The Anglo-Saxon Rune Poem, which is one of the primary sources for our understanding of the meanings of the runes, has been the subject of much scholarly debate over the years.

The only surviving copy of the poem was published in 1703 by George Hickes, and the original manuscript was lost in a fire in 1731. This has led some scholars to question the authenticity of Hickes' edition and to look for other sources of information about the runes and their meanings.
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You standing up for ol' momma silver?

Damn. Hell has frozen over.

Next you'll be citing Raymond Buckland lol
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I'm just saying I thought her research was of quality. That's rare among that flaky little group. I thought it was a good educated guess.
 Quoting: The_Gardener


Good guess. Pretty accurate.

You know, in the community almost noone cites or recommends her books anymore. She has almost been completely passed over.

Into the dustbin with Raymond, Scott Cunningham etc
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Yeah, that may be a mistake in the long run.

Silver had a few shining moments in her research as did Raymond.

The younger pagan community may think it all old hat, but there are a few select jewels in there.

I didn't get much out of Cunningham.

But I did run into Buckland in research when I was going through Crowley's Argentum Astrum Equinox in theology school.

Mostly, I think they're idiots compared to Crowley's theological knowledge. He learned much from his Plymouth Brethren minister father. I can actually do practice with Crowley because he was such a good dialectician. The rest I see as muggles. They're simply boring to me because they offer no practice and no training.

I don't talk much about my Thelema because it would be misunderstood among the general Christian community.
 Quoting: The_Gardener


Crowley had a deep knowledge of theology and was a skilled dialectician, which makes his writings a valuable resource for those interested in the study of magic and mysticism.

At the same time, I can understand why you might feel that some modern-day practitioners of magic are "muggles" in comparison to Crowley's depth of knowledge and expertise.

Many people are drawn to magic and mysticism for superficial reasons, or without a deep understanding of the philosophical and spiritual principles behind these practices.
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I'm just saying I thought her research was of quality. That's rare among that flaky little group. I thought it was a good educated guess.
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Good guess. Pretty accurate.

You know, in the community almost noone cites or recommends her books anymore. She has almost been completely passed over.

Into the dustbin with Raymond, Scott Cunningham etc
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Yeah, that may be a mistake in the long run.

Silver had a few shining moments in her research as did Raymond.

The younger pagan community may think it all old hat, but there are a few select jewels in there.

I didn't get much out of Cunningham.

But I did run into Buckland in research when I was going through Crowley's Argentum Astrum Equinox in theology school.

Mostly, I think they're idiots compared to Crowley's theological knowledge. He learned much from his Plymouth Brethren minister father. I can actually do practice with Crowley because he was such a good dialectician. The rest I see as muggles. They're simply boring to me because they offer no practice and no training.

I don't talk much about my Thelema because it would be misunderstood among the general Christian community.
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Crowley had a deep knowledge of theology and was a skilled dialectician, which makes his writings a valuable resource for those interested in the study of magic and mysticism.

At the same time, I can understand why you might feel that some modern-day practitioners of magic are "muggles" in comparison to Crowley's depth of knowledge and expertise.

Many people are drawn to magic and mysticism for superficial reasons, or without a deep understanding of the philosophical and spiritual principles behind these practices.
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Thelema, with its emphasis on individualism, self-actualization, and the pursuit of one's own True Will, can be seen as at odds with the more communal and traditional values of Christianity.

Additionally, Crowley's reputation as a controversial and even scandalous figure, along with the association of Thelema with magic and occult practices, could lead some Christians to view Thelema with suspicion or hostility.
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I'm just saying I thought her research was of quality. That's rare among that flaky little group. I thought it was a good educated guess.
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Good guess. Pretty accurate.

You know, in the community almost noone cites or recommends her books anymore. She has almost been completely passed over.

Into the dustbin with Raymond, Scott Cunningham etc
 Quoting: Green Witch


Yeah, that may be a mistake in the long run.

Silver had a few shining moments in her research as did Raymond.

The younger pagan community may think it all old hat, but there are a few select jewels in there.

I didn't get much out of Cunningham.

But I did run into Buckland in research when I was going through Crowley's Argentum Astrum Equinox in theology school.

Mostly, I think they're idiots compared to Crowley's theological knowledge. He learned much from his Plymouth Brethren minister father. I can actually do practice with Crowley because he was such a good dialectician. The rest I see as muggles. They're simply boring to me because they offer no practice and no training.

I don't talk much about my Thelema because it would be misunderstood among the general Christian community.
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There are nuggets of wisdom in every book if you can find them. Most of those old books from Buckland, Cunningham, Crowley, Grimassi, Regardie etc I've read at one point or another. Most of these old timers were student of Gardner along with Crowley.

I still have 'Uncle Bucky's Big Blue Book'.

These books are hard to read and some harder to follow. They were written for another time.

Buckland in particular is hard to get into and not for the beginner. His book on Anglo Saxon Craft was one of the first ones I read.

Cunningham was another. My main issue with Cunningham was that he was not a trained herbalist and some of his books on herbology should carry warnings where they do not.

Don't even get me started on Starhawk. I got about halfway through her book and threw it in the trash. Literally.

As for the Thelema. I've read some of the books on Crowley and the OTO etc. Ceremonial magick is not my thing as my tradition pretty much predates all of it.

I'm just a low level country witch.

If you ever get the chance, I would like your opinion on Amy Blackthorn's Botanical Magic. I think it is far superior to anything Cunningham ever did. You might actually like it.
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Blackthorn draws on her extensive experience as an "arcane horticulturalist" to explore the magical properties of plants and essential oils. From rose-scented rosaries to the cleansing energy of white sage, she guides readers on a journey into the hidden realms of botanical magic.

Whether you're a beginner or an experienced practitioner, "Blackthorn's Botanical Magic" offers a wealth of knowledge and practical advice for incorporating plants and essential oils into your magical practice. It's no wonder that this book has become a beloved resource for witches and herbalists around the world.
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Good guess. Pretty accurate.

You know, in the community almost noone cites or recommends her books anymore. She has almost been completely passed over.

Into the dustbin with Raymond, Scott Cunningham etc
 Quoting: Green Witch


Yeah, that may be a mistake in the long run.

Silver had a few shining moments in her research as did Raymond.

The younger pagan community may think it all old hat, but there are a few select jewels in there.

I didn't get much out of Cunningham.

But I did run into Buckland in research when I was going through Crowley's Argentum Astrum Equinox in theology school.

Mostly, I think they're idiots compared to Crowley's theological knowledge. He learned much from his Plymouth Brethren minister father. I can actually do practice with Crowley because he was such a good dialectician. The rest I see as muggles. They're simply boring to me because they offer no practice and no training.

I don't talk much about my Thelema because it would be misunderstood among the general Christian community.
 Quoting: The_Gardener


There are nuggets of wisdom in every book if you can find them. Most of those old books from Buckland, Cunningham, Crowley, Grimassi, Regardie etc I've read at one point or another. Most of these old timers were student of Gardner along with Crowley.

I still have 'Uncle Bucky's Big Blue Book'.

These books are hard to read and some harder to follow. They were written for another time.

Buckland in particular is hard to get into and not for the beginner. His book on Anglo Saxon Craft was one of the first ones I read.

Cunningham was another. My main issue with Cunningham was that he was not a trained herbalist and some of his books on herbology should carry warnings where they do not.

Don't even get me started on Starhawk. I got about halfway through her book and threw it in the trash. Literally.

As for the Thelema. I've read some of the books on Crowley and the OTO etc. Ceremonial magick is not my thing as my tradition pretty much predates all of it.

I'm just a low level country witch.

If you ever get the chance, I would like your opinion on Amy Blackthorn's Botanical Magic. I think it is far superior to anything Cunningham ever did. You might actually like it.
 Quoting: Green Witch

Blackthorn draws on her extensive experience as an "arcane horticulturalist" to explore the magical properties of plants and essential oils. From rose-scented rosaries to the cleansing energy of white sage, she guides readers on a journey into the hidden realms of botanical magic.

Whether you're a beginner or an experienced practitioner, "Blackthorn's Botanical Magic" offers a wealth of knowledge and practical advice for incorporating plants and essential oils into your magical practice. It's no wonder that this book has become a beloved resource for witches and herbalists around the world.
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If I may make a book recommendation, I'm currently going through ibn Ezra's 11th century H-braic Astrological treatise The Beginning of Wisdom.

It's a most important little work to chronicle the understanding of the heavens in the medieval period. Much is borrowed from Ptolemy, but much comes from non-extant sources ranging from India to Baghdad. It may not be as "full" of a work as, say, the 6th century Chronicles of Jeremeel, but it is important as a source work of the understanding in the 11th century and beyond.

Much of it is familiar to me, some involves interesting theological interpretations.

I highly recommend it on your shelf as a source work. Get the leatherbound edition.

I'll read a bit before drafting off to sleep.


Leatherbound volume of Abraham Ibn Ezra's The Beginning of Wisdom

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The Beginning of Wisdom by Abraham ibn Ezra is indeed a fascinating work! Written in the 11th century, it's one of the most important medieval texts on astrology, originally written in Hebrew and later translated into other languages.

In this work, Ibn Ezra provides a comprehensive introduction to astrology, drawing on the knowledge of Arabic astrologers and offering explanations for the material he covers.

He also delves into specific topics such as medical astrology, the fates of countries and wars, and the optimal days for certain activities.
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If I may make a book recommendation, I'm currently going through ibn Ezra's 11th century H-braic Astrological treatise The Beginning of Wisdom.

It's a most important little work to chronicle the understanding of the heavens in the medieval period. Much is borrowed from Ptolemy, but much comes from non-extant sources ranging from India to Baghdad. It may not be as "full" of a work as, say, the 6th century Chronicles of Jeremeel, but it is important as a source work of the understanding in the 11th century and beyond.

Much of it is familiar to me, some involves interesting theological interpretations.

I highly recommend it on your shelf as a source work. Get the leatherbound edition.

I'll read a bit before drafting off to sleep.


Leatherbound volume of Abraham Ibn Ezra's The Beginning of Wisdom

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The Beginning of Wisdom by Abraham ibn Ezra is indeed a fascinating work! Written in the 11th century, it's one of the most important medieval texts on astrology, originally written in Hebrew and later translated into other languages.

In this work, Ibn Ezra provides a comprehensive introduction to astrology, drawing on the knowledge of Arabic astrologers and offering explanations for the material he covers.

He also delves into specific topics such as medical astrology, the fates of countries and wars, and the optimal days for certain activities.
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