I made a bug out bag

No it doesnt.

Revelation 6-7 is about the tribulation saints. The tribulation saints is not the church, the church is raptured, the tribulation saints come in after because they get saved during the tribulation. Israel, the j people, will be turned BACK TO GOD during this time, and its from them the 144000 come.

Maybe you are messing this up because you dont understand the role of Israel. Read Romans 11 and Ezekiel 36-> for that.

Last Edited by Just†Me on 08/11/2022 07:35 PM

You’ve been indoctrinated hard by the church, we are going to have to agree to disagree on this subject. I think the Catholic Church messed with Paul’s writings anyways. And, I don’t like how the church puts what Paul wrote ahead of what YAHUSHA (JESUS) taught!!!!

Daniel 12
King James Version
12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

I edited my post and fixed it so it says 6-7, because revelation 6 is specifically about the tribulation saints. This is what scripture teaches, its not what im indoctrinated into, you cant indoctrinate into someone any doctrine thats not found in the bible, when my doctrine is FROM the bible.

If you believe in the bible, and you look at the verses i showed you, you have to admit im right. Lets hear it from you: Does romans 11 say God has rejected his people (the j)? Simple question, yes or no? Then you can deal with Ezekiel 36 which says the j people has been exiled to the NATIONS (plural) - NOT BABYLON - and say the J will return to Israel in unbelief (verse 20->). When you read it, you know it describe the almost 2000 years in exile they have been in. Mark Twain was there in the 1800s and actually fullfilled bible prophecy:

Read you post you did NOT have any food at the camper. (I think I read that correctly)

WHAT are YOU going to eat when you get there? If you have to bug out you will NOT be carrying much food with you, definitely not enough for even 30 days.

1 month worth of food for 1 in VARMIT PROOF CONTAINERS (metal) is the minimum you have at the camper, plus vitamins etc.. Doesn't have to be super light weight backpacking food, can be regular stuff you would eat anyway. Calorie and Protein rich food, not filler food, is what you need to put in the camper. Do that THIS WEEKEND!!

Nice prep bag OP. No pre trib rapture, you are correct.

Daniel 8:23-25

King James Version

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Revelation 20:4

King James Version

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Sadly, I agree.

Yeah, there is no bugging in. The thieves will light your house on fire to get you out, then rob you when you exit.

You need to be in wooded areas with water access.

You will need to set up perimeter security using whatever is available.

You would be safer underground with a concealed thatched covering. Just make sure to have enough ventilation to supply oxygen.

Truth.

https://imgur.com/a/M10mTLN

If you bought a PHD sigma jacket. Its -5c when walking ( not sure if phd over rate gear slightly ) but no one else rates clothes. If you ever walked in a 100gsm primaloft vest. In winter around town. Its comfortable warmth but isnt the right walking piece at the time ( winter ). So to be warm sitting outside. Although you survive winter with just the jacket and a sleeping bag. You can also use a vest. I can use with a rab generator vest.

https://imgur.com/a/KiU8dTX

It would be 200 gsm combined. The down poncho underneath jacket is warmer than vest though. Which is about 190g I believe.

So if I took vest instead and decided to buy a synthtic blanket. It would weigh more and also because the blanket doubles ss a vest.

So although you wouldnt want to rely on down gear. Id just be relying on boots and blanket.

An all year system maybe. In winter its. Sitting outside with pants, jacket and down blanket under jacket. Either sleep in baselayer and use blanket as a filler inside bag. Or wear pants and jacket inside bag and maybe let blanket dry out.

The hood on jacket isnt usable when walking because its designed for a helmet but if you were in cold enough walking conditions . You can lock hood with original buff over hood and thats how you use to sleep. A montane featherlite cap. With hood up and original buff over hood.

Theres other jackets and which might look better but without checking current offerings. An equal jacket still probably weighs more with un-nessesary bells and whistles.

This all packs easy into something like a sea to summit or green hermit day bag.

Some of the gear bought isnt part of phd usual items and all items are now way more costly.

You wouldnt need the down gear unless you went somewhere with snow or brief ultralight hiking.

I do think more durable gear even still would be better but you might not carry it.

The amount of gear like this Iv got holes in from walking. Whilst smoking is annoying.

I should quit.

This gear is old though but still worthy of not swapping for newer gear.

Def camping in winter. Finished buying the gear in 2015!

Not bad system purchases for an amatuer. Hence why I explain. Obviously the prices are rediculous though.

I lived with my Mum and bro. I started buying because they chucked me out for a while.

Tough loving!

Although bugging out. Beggars cant be choosers. Would you rely on down blanket and boots considering the rotating sleep system?

Its not like Id buy more gear anyway.

The blanket packs a punch. Indoors when you need a blanket. You cant even feel the weight ( less than a bag of lettuce ) but it gives you instant warmth.

I will try using till maybe October with just a vest ( not buying a phd vest though ) Will be lighter than a bag.

Functionality.

As a filler its annoying as it gets twisted. As a poncho its good. I added ties to tie at waist to close the side gaps for under jacket. As a quiilt. Not super tall but it will get to a point where you trying to keep feet tucked in etc.

Still a good item.

https://imgur.com/a/Xg2TKFb

Make me one and a sandwich.

Kate is a very attractive lady. Stay safe.

How profound.................

She is rather gorgeous. However. I thought she reminded me of someone. Its John? From the walking dead ( Hopefully that isnt the outcome )

But Iv hung out with my gf's bros. So isnt a problem.

I think Id actually let her borrow a bag. As she seems keen.

A female John lol.

No offense

I need a profile pic.

Listen to you guys..............

Without profile pic, 2.5 page thread, max.

No way trying to be mean spirited with you Kate but this thread reminds me of somithinh once said as everyone has a plan until that person gets a smack in the gob.

For my part being of olden as I have noticed over life as we plan things.

Without our man intent there is always, always someone or something will surprise us with a smack in the gob.

Don't really know what went wrong with my post as it was a quote of Mike Tyson.

Modz do that to me for some reason.

An interesting qoute.

I dont think id want Kate on my tail.

Just a thought tho O'mine as first rule of plan is not letting the enemy know yer plan.

I have had many plan oer my life and olden times tell me, tell no one of yer plan as those who watch are the enemy.

As my ol ma would say.

Let yer left hand be ignorant of right hand.

When I had an artificial mind ( still do ) I bought a red jacket. Envioning being rescued by a chopper in bleak locations.

As if id wear a -5c in bleak conditions envisioned. Maybe climbing yeah.

Iv bought mainly dark colours tho. Exept a blue hard shell.

That said. Heres my chopper. Glpers would think they are being stalked.



Last Edited by SEEO on 08/13/2022 06:00 PM

Fo sure.

I think if I remember rightly as red jacket was designed back then to avoid view of blood.

Such a strange world back then as hoitoitey dressed soldier in jacket of many hue.

Now in our world we have all mil in our world wear camo. Seems really like no need of cock-a-too in our world of banker, mil complex.

Our world really has changed so much in long-short space as I remember this here GuLP whence white trash Alamabama take on Yankee in wording on here. That was such a treasure as those folk spewed ignorant intelligence at each other for amusement for us on here.

We are I do assure you as some on here are being stalked as my post right now is being watched.

Always that eye which control all of the rings in our world.

In any redard as I wish you all well on here as even the King bane me.

Oh dear, oh dear as life goes on of mice n men.