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Crypto bottoms when we have our next "world event" similar to covid pandemic

 
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(Inserting the proof we bottom on friday the 13th, january 2023 on the top of the first post of this thread)

In my opinion, crypto bottoms on friday january 13th. This is when we lockdown. This is it.

March 13th, 2020 was the covid lockdown.
March 13th, 2020 was friday the 13th.

January 13, 2023 is friday the 13th.

I can tell we bottom this day because of XMR. Sweet sweet monero.

Signed sealed and delivered. This is when EVERYTHING happens. You all think i'm crazy. I'm not fucking crazy. Well I am. But not over this. I know this is coming and I will be A FUCKING LEGEND FOREVER when I call this motherfucking crypto bottom on the EXACT DAY it bottoms and the fucking lockdown that I know is coming.

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Drink it in everyone. This is it.

2018 bear market on the left. The blue arrows make that downsloping channel. The 2018 bear market ended when monero hit the bottom of that channel.

2022 bear market is on the right. The yellow arrows make that downsloping channel. The 2022 bear market will end when monero is at the bottom of that channel.

Friday the 13th is at the bottom of that channel when monero hits the 786 retrace (log retrace).

This is it.




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Thought I would log in under my account because my last post was as an anonymous coward.

Anyways.

I told you xrp would dump at 1.70 last year down to 50 cents. I was perfectly correct while you all flamed me for months.

I told you 69k was the top for bitcoin and you all flamed me for months.

I told you 48.2k bitcoin would resume the bear market due to a bearish gartley harmonic, along with hidden bearish divergence on the daily RSI, classic bearish divergence on the daily macd, 3day RSI trendline resistance, 400 day moving average resistance and 200 day moving average resistance. I told you this on march 29th the DAY bitcoin hit 48.2k. If you can't tell, i'm fucking proud of this one. Told you bitcoin would come down to 20-24k back then.

And i've told you that we are not bottomed yet. I told you 17.5k was not the bitcoin bottom. I told you multiple times.

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-We are weeks away from the bottom. As soon as the midterms are over, the politicians are going to pull the rug out from the markets. Some time in december looks right to me, at least right now.

-I think Ethereum will bottom in the 400-500$ area.
I think Bitcoin will bottom in the 10k area.

-The market bottoms on a SUNDAY. I just don't know which sunday. Yet.


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I don't really care about ethereum or bitcoin so much, i'm going to buy other coins with higher upside potential. I'm just using bitcoin and ethereum as the indicator for when the market has bottomed.

That's the point of bitcoin and ethereum. To know when to buy other things with higher profit potential.
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Bitch please





We already have a legend:
Thread: Bitcoin absolute bottom is 15,621
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and when i say politicians, obviously i'm talking about whoever controls the politicians. they really dont control anything.

(insert klauss schwabb, rockerfellers, rothschilds, etc)
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Bitch please





We already have a legend:
Thread: Bitcoin absolute bottom is 15,621
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Only if that is the bottom :)

which i don't believe it is.
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people need to start looking at other tech.
distributed ledger blockchains are a method of slavery.
No logs
No ledger
truly anonymous
interchangeable flexibility with other currencies.
High speed transactions.

Maybe something like cash?
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Ledger ttech is exactly 2hat we need for government
A small gov and It will be good for international trade
People use gold back3d currency
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people need to start looking at other tech.
distributed ledger blockchains are a method of slavery.
No logs
No ledger
truly anonymous
interchangeable flexibility with other currencies.
High speed transactions.

Maybe something like cash?
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problem with cash is that politicans steal 5% of it every year through inflation and then steal another 20% of it every year they decide to print a shitload of money. cash is a deteriorating "asset." It's like keeping your change in a pocket that has a hole in it and it slowly trickles out as you walk down the street.
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people need to start looking at other tech.
distributed ledger blockchains are a method of slavery.
No logs
No ledger
truly anonymous
interchangeable flexibility with other currencies.
High speed transactions.

Maybe something like cash?
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Ledger ttech is exactly 2hat we need for government
A small gov and It will be good for international trade
People use gold back3d currency
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We will use what they will say we will use. The whole world does what they're told
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this guy has never been right
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this guy has never been right
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lol

i've been right quite a bit. but feel free to think what you want
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this guy has never been right
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btw when i started this thread, i said crypto would crash on midterm election day and i started this thread 2 days before midterm election day.

it crashed 28% starting exactly on midterm election day over a 3 day span.

But yeah you're right, i've never been right
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But yeah you're right, i've never been right
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Your track record seems impressive to me.

What are YOU doing with YOUR money?

I'm not directly asking for advice but am just curious given your penchant for hitting your targets.
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Just read a couple of pages of this thread.
It is all just speculative bullshit to me,
if others want to play it, that is fine.

But, I am going to post this link with the
Covid New Cases chart, because it kinda supports
OPs claim of a lock down in January.
Scroll down the page, should be the first chart.
Notice the high peak of cases in January of this year.
As it gets colder and lots of Christmas travelers and gatherings, you can make the case for another peak in the
next 45 to 60 days.

[link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]
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Something kind of cool for you Nemo. This is going to be something i look at before entering any trade ever again, i truly feel it is that powerful.

So this chart? It's complicated. It's a dual chart. Technically it is the VIX chart, with a comparison to bitcoin on coinbase (in a new pane). I drag the bitcoin pane to the top and minimize the VIX size. Blue line at the bottom is the vix and i dont really need the vix. I only want to compare bitcoin on coinbase to the VIX's macd. The only indicator i have on the screen is the logarithmic MACD. The circles are made on the logarithmic macd.

So check this picture out.

https://imgur.com/a/NLXSxND


7 circles on the screen since bitcoin topped at 69k. Each circle gets a verticle line and a number. Each circle is made right when the macd goes positive. VIX macd going positive is 100% correlated to bitcoin crashing. Every single time so far, 6 times in a row the vix MACD going positive made it crash.

Well it just went positive for the 7th time.

Think it will crash again? I sure do. I did before this, but after looking at this... yeah... crash is incoming. And soon.

(to explain this, VIX = stock market volatility. High volatility = crashing asset prices. So high volatility is captured by the macd going positive. VIX going up = bitcoin going down)
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Howdy Cheese,

Lots to consider, thanks for all the posts! I like this new chart of yours a lot too and will certainly have to study it.

https://imgur.com/a/somGTcf


Still of the mind that we haven't reached full capitulation or the price bottom yet. Still the considering the $9500 zone to be the signal we have reached the bottom. Although brief dips lower than that wouldn't surprise me, the accumulated volume in that zone will likely be very solid and difficult to break through, unlike the near absence of accumulated volume support where the price is presently sitting.


https://imgur.com/a/d8Bs0vw


The BTC+ETH market dominance is still being supported and remains trending down. I was surprised at the coincidence when I examined the date of when the trend line and support level intersected. I guess we'll see what happens by then!

https://imgur.com/a/Dk8MHVe


This is an update to the chart I've shown many times before - I'm tracking USDT and USDC to gauge how much "cash" is sitting out of or flowing into the market. It clearly shows that we've been in a "bear" Crypto market since about this time last year in 2021 and mostly folks seem to not be re-entering the market just yet, just leaving their funds in stablecoins. What is different in this update is a pattern I'm looking at (red lines + green box). The green box is the zone the Stablecoins have been in and the red lines are the upper and lower trends. Looking at what dates this trend may break out, a date of sometime between the beginning of February and the middle of August is shown. If this is a "pennant" type pattern, the continuation trend after consolidation indicates a break up, with greater market cap of Stablecoins. I would interpret this to indicate more movement into Stablecoins and out of other Crypto such as BTC and ETH, leading to lower Crypto prices.

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bump thanks OP/Nemo, keep us posted these are helpful for my analysis as well and much appreciated!
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Glad you have been finding it helpful!

If you have any analysis or commentary of your own, please post it as well.

It's always good to see what others are thinking and get constructive feedback.
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I did some playing around with bitcoin now that I have a friday the 13th 2023 date due to XMR(monero) and I looked for ways to make it make sense for a bitcoin target...

6,500$. That's what I think we will bottom at. I think this is a repeat of the march 2020 covid crash that is happening on January 13th, 2023. I think it's going to be rather violent of a crash.

I've said it before but i think we'll lockdown because we locked down the last time bitcoin bottomed. I base my lockdown-theory entirely on us locking down the last time bitcoin bottomed.

6,500$ HERE WE COME?!

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]

Double 1.618 fib extension, a horizontal 1.618 and a downsloping 1.618. TWO 1.618's at the same time and happening exactly on January 13th, 2023. Do you realize how unbelievable it is that I found two of those on friday the 13th? The fact that they intersect on that day is absolutely remarkable. I can't say how remarkable.

If we do see 6,500$ on jan 13th, then that is fairly probably the bottom in my opinion. I'll take a chance and buy at that price. It truly is a coinflip so you are gambling if you buy... but I will take a wild gamble on 6,500$ and just let the chips fall as they may. Not encouraging you all to do that... just telling you what I will do if I see 6,500$ on that day.
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But yeah you're right, i've never been right
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Your track record seems impressive to me.

What are YOU doing with YOUR money?

I'm not directly asking for advice but am just curious given your penchant for hitting your targets.
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i'm out of the market right now waiting for january 13th, 2023 where i will buy crypto if bitcoin is at 6,500$. I think that is the bottom currently.

I think we will have another bullrun. I think bitcoin will go to 100k area in end of 2024. Maybe just a tad over 100k because exactly 100k as a top is just too easy.

I think that bullrun will probably start january 13th, 2023 and run all the way until 9/11/2024. I'll sell crypto on 9/11/2024 and wait for the next bear market to finish.

If you can't tell... I am big on using special dates as when I buy and sell assets. Dates are very important to me, despite not technically being real technical analysis. 9/11 is a very important date for me so i think that's when the next bull market ends.
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One last thing nemo. A very very basic trendline on the logarithmic scale. The circle is friday the 13th at 6500$. I superimposed the covid crash on top of price in blue, you can just barely see it on the screen. An interesting thing is that on the logarithmic chart? The exact crash % of the covid crash would bring us exactly from current price to exactly 6500$.

So intersection of two 1.618 fib extensions and also this downsloping trendline. All on friday the 13th. And it's the exact same percentage drop down to 6500 as the covid crash was from 10.5k down to 4k or whatever.

Definitely still speculation but this is what i think is happening. Time will tell if i'm wrong or not, i reckon.

hmm

scheming

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(Inserting the proof we bottom on friday the 13th, january 2023 on the top of the first post of this thread)

In my opinion, crypto bottoms on friday january 13th. This is when we lockdown. This is it.

March 13th, 2020 was the covid lockdown.
March 13th, 2020 was friday the 13th.

January 13, 2023 is friday the 13th.

I can tell we bottom this day because of XMR. Sweet sweet monero.

Signed sealed and delivered. This is when EVERYTHING happens. You all think i'm crazy. I'm not fucking crazy. Well I am. But not over this. I know this is coming and I will be A FUCKING LEGEND FOREVER when I call this motherfucking crypto bottom on the EXACT DAY it bottoms and the fucking lockdown that I know is coming.
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Last thing. I guess it could bottom as early as january 5th due to two different ways you can do the downsloping channel. So my bottom date range is anywhere from january 5th to january 13th time frame. I just lean towards the 13th due to the friday the 13th "holiday" and also bitcoin likes to bottom around mid month.

December 2018 it bottomed on the 15th and march 2020 it bottomed on the 13th. Mid month is good for market bottoms.
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(Inserting the proof we bottom on friday the 13th, january 2023 on the top of the first post of this thread)

In my opinion, crypto bottoms on friday january 13th. This is when we lockdown. This is it.

March 13th, 2020 was the covid lockdown.
March 13th, 2020 was friday the 13th.

January 13, 2023 is friday the 13th.

I can tell we bottom this day because of XMR. Sweet sweet monero.

Signed sealed and delivered. This is when EVERYTHING happens. You all think i'm crazy. I'm not fucking crazy. Well I am. But not over this. I know this is coming and I will be A FUCKING LEGEND FOREVER when I call this motherfucking crypto bottom on the EXACT DAY it bottoms and the fucking lockdown that I know is coming.
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The FAIL is strong
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You realize they are pushing a triple-demic right now... right? You realize they are setting the stage for this... right?
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(Inserting the proof we bottom on friday the 13th, january 2023 on the top of the first post of this thread)

In my opinion, crypto bottoms on friday january 13th. This is when we lockdown. This is it.

March 13th, 2020 was the covid lockdown.
March 13th, 2020 was friday the 13th.

January 13, 2023 is friday the 13th.

I can tell we bottom this day because of XMR. Sweet sweet monero.

Signed sealed and delivered. This is when EVERYTHING happens. You all think i'm crazy. I'm not fucking crazy. Well I am. But not over this. I know this is coming and I will be A FUCKING LEGEND FOREVER when I call this motherfucking crypto bottom on the EXACT DAY it bottoms and the fucking lockdown that I know is coming.
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The FAIL is strong
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You realize they are pushing a triple-demic right now... right? You realize they are setting the stage for this... right?
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If i am right, they will start "OMG PEOPLE IZ DYING" stuff all over the media over the coming weeks. Exactly like they did in the month leading up to March 13th, 2020. States will begin mask mandates. Shitty states like michigan and oregon will lock down first. Then new york. Then california. Then all the idiot states will follow suit. Then we'll get the big plandemic 2.0 declaration by the WHO around january 13th.

In my opinion, we will repeat all of that nonsense.

Maybe even some bullshit hysteria out of china of them picking up dead bodies again. Maybe planes shut down. Maybe borders closed. Maybe transportation lockdowns.

But again... i'm a conspiracy theorist.
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One last thing nemo. A very very basic trendline on the logarithmic scale. The circle is friday the 13th at 6500$. I superimposed the covid crash on top of price in blue, you can just barely see it on the screen. An interesting thing is that on the logarithmic chart? The exact crash % of the covid crash would bring us exactly from current price to exactly 6500$.

So intersection of two 1.618 fib extensions and also this downsloping trendline. All on friday the 13th. And it's the exact same percentage drop down to 6500 as the covid crash was from 10.5k down to 4k or whatever.

Definitely still speculation but this is what i think is happening. Time will tell if i'm wrong or not, i reckon.

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https://imgur.com/a/hLVUeMj


That's interesting ...

My pros and cons on the $6500 idea are:

Pro - the price has tested that level many times before, so it would be a natural floor.

Con - The volume in between the $9500 zone and the $6500 floor is huge and solid all the way down. That would be a lot of resistance to overcome.

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Fundamentally, BTC is backed by the cost of energy to secure the network. So if there were an advance in technology to reduce the cost of energy, the price of BTC should have an offsetting decrease at some point, I would think.



It is only a rumor at this point, and if true certainly not something immediately going to be commercialized, but I wonder what sort of impact the knowledge of future availability of fusion energy will have on BTC price in the short term?

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how long does it stay at 7k?
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Fundamentally, BTC is backed by the cost of energy to secure the network. So if there were an advance in technology to reduce the cost of energy, the price of BTC should have an offsetting decrease at some point, I would think.



It is only a rumor at this point, and if true certainly not something immediately going to be commercialized, but I wonder what sort of impact the knowledge of future availability of fusion energy will have on BTC price in the short term?
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there's no relationship of price to energy cost, that
should be obvious as miners have been losing money
for eight months now.

they just started to drop out en mass in November.

Confirmation time should rise as capacity falls, Im
fairly sure it has but the daily variation is too
high to be sure yet. Any extended drop to 6500
puts the miners out of business, many must be
desperate right now.

There should be asymmetric network traffic as high
cost countries drop out, creating congestion and
higher cross traffic. systemic failures dont give
you much warning.
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Fundamentally, BTC is backed by the cost of energy to secure the network. So if there were an advance in technology to reduce the cost of energy, the price of BTC should have an offsetting decrease at some point, I would think.



It is only a rumor at this point, and if true certainly not something immediately going to be commercialized, but I wonder what sort of impact the knowledge of future availability of fusion energy will have on BTC price in the short term?
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there's no relationship of price to energy cost, that
should be obvious as miners have been losing money
for eight months now.

they just started to drop out en mass in November.

Confirmation time should rise as capacity falls, Im
fairly sure it has but the daily variation is too
high to be sure yet. Any extended drop to 6500
puts the miners out of business, many must be
desperate right now.

There should be asymmetric network traffic as high
cost countries drop out, creating congestion and
higher cross traffic. systemic failures dont give
you much warning.
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a lot of bitcoin performance issues were patched
through "bundling schemes". their effectiveness
is dependent on colocation sites, which shorten
the distance of packet travel. as miners drop out,
the colocations disappear and the performance effect
reverses. packets must travel further, which creates
more network traffic instead of less.
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7500 is when to start to DCA all the way down to 3,500
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7500 is when to start to DCA all the way down to 3,500
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Fundamentally, BTC is backed by the cost of energy to secure the network. So if there were an advance in technology to reduce the cost of energy, the price of BTC should have an offsetting decrease at some point, I would think.



It is only a rumor at this point, and if true certainly not something immediately going to be commercialized, but I wonder what sort of impact the knowledge of future availability of fusion energy will have on BTC price in the short term?
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there's no relationship of price to energy cost, that
should be obvious as miners have been losing money
for eight months now.

they just started to drop out en mass in November.

Confirmation time should rise as capacity falls, Im
fairly sure it has but the daily variation is too
high to be sure yet. Any extended drop to 6500
puts the miners out of business, many must be
desperate right now.

There should be asymmetric network traffic as high
cost countries drop out, creating congestion and
higher cross traffic. systemic failures dont give
you much warning.
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Thanks for your thoughts!

I'm willing to be educated otherwise, but logically, there must be some influence of the cost of electricity on the price of BTC as energy costs are a major input cost to the process of mining.

I thought this article did well in explaining the various factors in balance:

[link to www.nasdaq.com (secure)]

The amount of time miners can afford to hold the BTC they mine is indeed surely limited, and I can see how confirmation times as being a good proxy for the number of miners participating in the network.

Thanks for pointing that out!
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how long does it stay at 7k?
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I'm actually back on 8500$ being the bottom. Sorry that i keep slightly adjusting my target but i'm not adjusting it by much.

Still 100% locked in on january 13th 2023.

I think it will be 8500$ for 4 days from jan 13th to jan 16th or so.

I expect a pop upwards up to 11k by end of january and then trickle back down to 9k by first week of march...

After mid march, i believe the bullrun starts.

So basically I think you will have two months in the 8500-11k range.

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I need to see a falling wedge to confirm that january 13th at 8500 is the bottom. If you see me going on and on about a falling wedge? It's almost definitely bottoming.
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Re: Crypto bottoms when we have our next "world event" similar to covid pandemic
One last thing nemo. A very very basic trendline on the logarithmic scale. The circle is friday the 13th at 6500$. I superimposed the covid crash on top of price in blue, you can just barely see it on the screen. An interesting thing is that on the logarithmic chart? The exact crash % of the covid crash would bring us exactly from current price to exactly 6500$.

So intersection of two 1.618 fib extensions and also this downsloping trendline. All on friday the 13th. And it's the exact same percentage drop down to 6500 as the covid crash was from 10.5k down to 4k or whatever.

Definitely still speculation but this is what i think is happening. Time will tell if i'm wrong or not, i reckon.

 Quoting: Mr Cheese


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That's interesting ...

My pros and cons on the $6500 idea are:

Pro - the price has tested that level many times before, so it would be a natural floor.

Con - The volume in between the $9500 zone and the $6500 floor is huge and solid all the way down. That would be a lot of resistance to overcome.
 Quoting: nemo_solus


Yeah, i'm back on 8500, nemo. As nice as 6500 is... i just don't see it going below 8500. I'm glad that you and I are both interested in the same area as a bottom. Either way, it's all speculation right now.

The falling wedge that we NEED to make, will be made wherever it gets made and i'll adjust my target for the falling wedge. Anything I'm saying right now is honestly a best guess based on several dozen ideas all jammed together.

Still incredibly sure on jan 13th as the time it happens.

Reason I'm back on 8500 is that just a regular downsloping channel (on log scale) on the 4 hour line chart shows 8500 on jan 13th.
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By the way. 14k happens this week.

By the way again. Next monday, 14k fails and finally begin the real final crash.





GLP