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Grognak the Ballbareian
(OP) User ID: 81558040 United States 11/04/2022 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For sniper? Yes. After years of study I'm convinced the CIA and or Democrats control this platform and what's aloud to remain posted Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83991173 I wanna "reach out" in the woods near my house. I guess 5.56 can do this too but want to make sure im making a good decision Last Edited by Grognak the Ballbareian on 11/04/2022 09:32 PM |
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1776 2.0
User ID: 78344427 United States 11/04/2022 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for home defense, 223/556 or 12g slug with a side of 9mm of course. I like my 308's for hunting over 100-200 yards with a scope instead of my holosun red dot I have on my AR which is loaded with 556 for home defense an my 9mm PPQ Last Edited by 1776 2.0 on 11/04/2022 09:34 PM SovereignProtector |
Grognak the Ballbareian
(OP) User ID: 81558040 United States 11/04/2022 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This It's what you need for shtf See a family in your way a mile plus out you can easily take then all out at distance So in the scenario with a few hungry neighbors with guns I should get this? What about to take out a vehicle engine block? I only have maybe 8 druggy neighbors to contend with Last Edited by Grognak the Ballbareian on 11/04/2022 09:36 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15127697 United States 11/04/2022 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well im really asking for SHTF. Not concerned too much about collateral damage. Quoting: Grognak the Ballbareian Ive been having more SHTF dreams as of late. Well im really asking for SHTF. Not concerned too much about collateral damage. Quoting: Grognak the Ballbareian Ive been having more SHTF dreams as of late. First, it was home defense... now it's SHTF? By most people's reckoning those are very different missions. Dealing with one or two intruders in your darkened hallway at 2 am is very different than taking on roving gangs of scavengers you encounter on your endless trek across the post-apocalyptic wasteland. Maybe if you could clarify the sort of situation or role you envision for the gun, more helpful advice can be offered. Many guns can serve multiple roles but there will always be trade-offs. |
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Grognak the Ballbareian
(OP) User ID: 81558040 United States 11/04/2022 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well im really asking for SHTF. Not concerned too much about collateral damage. Quoting: Grognak the Ballbareian Ive been having more SHTF dreams as of late. Well im really asking for SHTF. Not concerned too much about collateral damage. Quoting: Grognak the Ballbareian Ive been having more SHTF dreams as of late. First, it was home defense... now it's SHTF? By most people's reckoning those are very different missions. Dealing with one or two intruders in your darkened hallway at 2 am is very different than taking on roving gangs of scavengers you encounter on your endless trek across the post-apocalyptic wasteland. Maybe if you could clarify the sort of situation or role you envision for the gun, more helpful advice can be offered. Many guns can serve multiple roles but there will always be trade-offs. Im asking both, whats your take? |
GatorMclosky
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Ron W User ID: 75014720 United States 11/04/2022 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking about buying a .308 rifle. Is it prefered over 5.56 for home defense and in general? Quoting: Grognak the Ballbareian Home defence is a close quarters 12 guage shotgun, if you don't want to kill your damn neighbors by accident while defending your home. A hand gun using hollow points is next in line, but even those can go through walls and hit innocent bystanders, good old OO buck shot is the safest option when compared to the rest, and why this isn't taught as home defense 101 boggles the mind. #4 shot is probably best for inside defense. It’s devastating at close range, but won’t penetrate walls like 00 buck. |
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BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 11/04/2022 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My choice is the 6.5 Grendel cartridge, right between the 5.56 and 308 diameter and power, 25 rounds fit in an AR-15 30 round mag, and if you're not into AR's, there's a few bolt action rifles to choose from. Quoting: George Carlin A bolt action for home defense? NO Get a revolver, no checking safety, or to see if a round is in the tube, no jamming, just point and pull the trigger. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Grognak the Ballbareian
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Ol' Scratch User ID: 84647095 Serbia 11/04/2022 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A rifle round is not advisable to use in a situation indoors. .308, 5.56 aand.223 are all excellent and flat shooting calibers, but they are going to go through multiple walls and into the neighbors walls and possibly through those as well. For in home defense, a revolver or shotgun would be best. most revolver calibers are powerful enough to knock down a bad guy indoors (leave out .22 unless you have no other choice) you can for sure kill someobdy with one, but you may have to shoot them several times to do it quickly and reliably. I have always thought a .357 revolver in the bedstand is a reliable go to if somebody is trying to break in. a rifle or shotgun take 2 hands and more space around corners, and offer a barrel which can be grabbed in short quarters by a bad guy. A revolver doesn't. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3110042 Canada 11/04/2022 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As someone who owns and hunts with a .308, If you want to touch something with finality at 300 yards. Good choice every day of the week. But if you are looking at anything under 50 lbs, and under 50 yards a .22 will do you fine. If you want to buy the hype a .223 is perfectly fine for coyote and whatnot. Your .308 is a high power cartridge for medium to large game. Ultimately whatever you choose to use and whatever you want to do with it, is up to you and what you are comfortable with. But just saying .308 means not much. Ar10? Savage bargain rifle? Tikka? M14? But if you are talking home defense, well, as a Canadian I can suggest what turdy wants us to think we can have, a rape whistle and a toll free victim support number, that probably won't get answered. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84460797 United States 11/04/2022 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | High powered rifles are not really good for home defense. Both a 5.56 and .308 will go through many many walls before stopping. For home defense, a 12 gauge shotgun is the best option. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84616873 That being said, as a rifle round, you really cannot go wrong with a .308. Is there more recoil? Slightly more in an AR10 configuration. High powered rifles are not really good for home defense. Both a 5.56 and .308 will go through many many walls before stopping. For home defense, a 12 gauge shotgun is the best option. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84616873 That being said, as a rifle round, you really cannot go wrong with a .308. Is there more recoil? Slightly more in an AR10 configuration. This is pure shite. All police dept went to SBR 5.56 in place of shotguns and sub guns precisely because 5.56 is terrible against obsticals. It will to overpenetrate even flimsy interior walls because of its small poorly constructed bullets and high velocity. It will tear itaelf apart and loose all energy even hittinf a 2 x 4. 12 guage slugs or buckshot will easily penetrate an exterior wall. Or shoot all the way thru a car. Same ith any decent pitol round. .308 and most high powered rifle are the same due to bulley weight. But 55 gr 556@ 2900fps will not over penetrate barriers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84460797 United States 11/04/2022 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any high quality semi auto with hight sites and a tactical light are good for home defence. Use a lighter faster bullet if your concerned about over penetration. Dont use the light unless you have to. As for sights I prefer Trijicon HD PRO green rear orange front and have them on all my guns. I use Winchester pdx 125gr in all my 9mms. 155 grain bonded Noslers in all my 10mms. 325gr Hornady in 45Lc and 454 cas. The last 3 are for camping. Not home defense. I run 110 controlled chaos in 300 BLK pistols and I doubt they would overpenetrate on a hit. But a miss would go through an jnterior wall for sure. |
Super Straight Splinterhead
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80551238 United States 11/04/2022 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking about buying a .308 rifle. Is it prefered over 5.56 for home defense and in general? Quoting: Grognak the Ballbareian No home defense, the blast without ear protection will just destroy your ears, the round will go through at least 5 houses, killing everything that touches. Jesus do a deep research on firearms before you purchase anything. |
BRIEF
User ID: 79662918 United States 11/06/2022 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking about buying a .308 rifle. Is it prefered over 5.56 for home defense and in general? Quoting: Grognak the Ballbareian No home defense, the blast without ear protection will just destroy your ears, the round will go through at least 5 houses, killing everything that touches. Jesus do a deep research on firearms before you purchase anything. The 5.56 x 45 will not make it through three reams of paper, and the 7.62 x 54 stops at 4... The stack of three and four are not much to see, I had to dissect it to find the bullets... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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mccloud286
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73265861 United States 11/06/2022 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking about buying a .308 rifle. Is it prefered over 5.56 for home defense and in general? Quoting: Grognak the Ballbareian Why not buy ar15 with a setup that can fire both 223 and 556? There are many long range gun enthusiasts who argue over 300 win mag VS 308 mag reliability and performance but as someone who has shot a lot of both from close and long range 100byards out to 4850feet, it's negligible on both sides of the argument as both have their strengths and weaknesses that pretty much level the playing field. 308 does have a high decibel range than 223/556 and even 300 but only by a small margin. No matter the task in my humble opinion, you really can't go wrong with an AR15 be it chambered in 223 or 556. As long as you don't skimp on gas system/receiver/barrel/sights you got a solid reliable weapon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79321299 United States 11/06/2022 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking about buying a .308 rifle. Is it prefered over 5.56 for home defense and in general? Quoting: Grognak the Ballbareian Hunting rifle. Much too powerful, and unwieldy for home defence. Last thing you need is trying to maneuver around your house in the dark with the barrel showing up around corners two feet before you do, or going through your walls, and your neighbors and hitting some innocent. Now, if you want to pop it out a window to clear a field that is something else. IF you can find buckshot a 12 gauge or an AR is good home defence, plus a good pistol. Face it OP, you need a couple of firearms. |