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Idaho murders: Sources tell Judge Jeanine Pirro 'genealogical DNA' helped nab suspect

 
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Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes.

Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc.

I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it.
 Quoting: themessengernevermatters


Your not the sharpest tool in the shed. Are you?

Totalitarian regimes wouldn't even need to fuck around with DNA, you would just disappear one day. No your shitting your pants for some reason. Did you leave so DNA somewhere you shouldn't have?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76389541


Sharper than you. The fact is the most totalitarian government on the face of the planet at this time; China, is developing and using all these systems; face and gait tracking cameras, buying and building a massive DNA database, social credit systems and QR codes. Of course they want those systems, it makes their tyranny more efficient and secure from revolution.

As far as it never being abused like a lot of you morans keep claiming, there has been many examples and scandals over the past years with state crime labs falsifying and planting evidence. The systems are only as reliable and secure as the leaders of the government and they have all become criminal and corrupt globalist lackeys.

Of course you think the system will never be used against you, until it is. But that is because you are all short sighted naïve Pollyannaish morans.
 Quoting: themessengernevermatters



Noone said tools and methods couldnt be abused you fucking moran. Ballastics can prove if a gun fired a bullet. But that gun could be planted on someone. so, we dont use ballistics anymore? Witnesses can ID a perp, but Witnesses could lie. Do we not take Witness testimony anymore? Guns and Knives can be be used for protection, security, ect, but the also can be abused and used for bad purposes. Do we outlaw the all.

Whats your actual fucking point?
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Point is that using dna from a database that anyone could input anything is bullshit.
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Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes.

Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc.

I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it.
 Quoting: themessengernevermatters


Your not the sharpest tool in the shed. Are you?

Totalitarian regimes wouldn't even need to fuck around with DNA, you would just disappear one day. No your shitting your pants for some reason. Did you leave so DNA somewhere you shouldn't have?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76389541


Sharper than you. The fact is the most totalitarian government on the face of the planet at this time; China, is developing and using all these systems; face and gait tracking cameras, buying and building a massive DNA database, social credit systems and QR codes. Of course they want those systems, it makes their tyranny more efficient and secure from revolution.

As far as it never being abused like a lot of you morans keep claiming, there has been many examples and scandals over the past years with state crime labs falsifying and planting evidence. The systems are only as reliable and secure as the leaders of the government and they have all become criminal and corrupt globalist lackeys.

Of course you think the system will never be used against you, until it is. But that is because you are all short sighted naïve Pollyannaish morans.
 Quoting: themessengernevermatters


Exactly right. These idiots that are promoting send your dna to China are bots trying to get people to think that is a good idea. They come out and say it solves crimes when in fact it does not, if dna is at a crime scene they still have go prove how it got there. But idiots think that because dna was there the crime is solved. Again, they still have to prove how your dna got there, just because it is there doesn't mean it wasn't planted there.
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No dumb Cocksuckers like yourself who have reading comprehension problems only think thats what we are saying. Video of a car driving from a crime scene by itself wont convict someone of committing that crime. But can give police a lead on who to look at and match with other evidence.

Its possible for anything to be planted at a crime scene. but there is great pains and documentation that takes place to make sure its not easy. theres no reason even trying to start telling as you clearly have no mental capacity.
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Your not the sharpest tool in the shed. Are you?

Totalitarian regimes wouldn't even need to fuck around with DNA, you would just disappear one day. No your shitting your pants for some reason. Did you leave so DNA somewhere you shouldn't have?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76389541


Sharper than you. The fact is the most totalitarian government on the face of the planet at this time; China, is developing and using all these systems; face and gait tracking cameras, buying and building a massive DNA database, social credit systems and QR codes. Of course they want those systems, it makes their tyranny more efficient and secure from revolution.

As far as it never being abused like a lot of you morans keep claiming, there has been many examples and scandals over the past years with state crime labs falsifying and planting evidence. The systems are only as reliable and secure as the leaders of the government and they have all become criminal and corrupt globalist lackeys.

Of course you think the system will never be used against you, until it is. But that is because you are all short sighted naïve Pollyannaish morans.
 Quoting: themessengernevermatters


Exactly right. These idiots that are promoting send your dna to China are bots trying to get people to think that is a good idea. They come out and say it solves crimes when in fact it does not, if dna is at a crime scene they still have go prove how it got there. But idiots think that because dna was there the crime is solved. Again, they still have to prove how your dna got there, just because it is there doesn't mean it wasn't planted there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82030106


No dumb Cocksuckers like yourself who have reading comprehension problems only think thats what we are saying. Video of a car driving from a crime scene by itself wont convict someone of committing that crime. But can give police a lead on who to look at and match with other evidence.

Its possible for anything to be planted at a crime scene. but there is great pains and documentation that takes place to make sure its not easy. theres no reason even trying to start telling as you clearly have no mental capacity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76389541


Look I see you are triggered, a firm believer in what the fake news programs you to believe. You, yourself are mow admitting the system is flawed and the dna is worthless. At least you have now figured it out and that is a win for you, celebrate and spread the real news.
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Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes.

Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc.

I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it.
 Quoting: themessengernevermatters


And what will these tyrans use to come get me with? Guns. What could i use to defend myself with? Guns. Your solution is not to use DNA evidence in crime is not to use it because it could be abused. Well guns can be abused, should we outlaw that too. There is tons of things that can be abused. Even information. Does that mean you support recent censorship based on what some people called disinformation? Who decides. You saying no tools can be used because the can be abused is beyond stupid stupid.

I've never heard once that dna convicted anyone falsely. It's the other way around and it also frees alot of people falsely imprisoned.
 Quoting: NDFarm


Exactly. Its also Identfied remains of victims who couldn't be identified through the usual methods. Take 911 as example. people were destroyed beyond being able to use dental record or finger prints. The used DNA to at least give the family some remains to bury and confirm their loved ones death.


The fact this poster is getting so upset is highly suspect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76389541


Yeah suspect me all you want moran. The reason I am speaking out about it is because the tyranny they are building will be sold as safety and security.

The fact is it would be a real safe world if everyone was locked down in their cubicles and only let out to work at the state factory and if every activity down to taking a shower were watched by big brother. You could be a safe little rat in your safe little cage. Well right up until one of the corrupt cats running the system decides they don't like you. They of course will miraculously escape the all the surveillance, because they run it, they own it and they control it.

Enjoy what freedom you all have left geniuses. It's going to all end soon. They are building out the global surveillance grid right now everyday and you are helping them build it. One brick at a time.
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Sharper than you. The fact is the most totalitarian government on the face of the planet at this time; China, is developing and using all these systems; face and gait tracking cameras, buying and building a massive DNA database, social credit systems and QR codes. Of course they want those systems, it makes their tyranny more efficient and secure from revolution.

As far as it never being abused like a lot of you morans keep claiming, there has been many examples and scandals over the past years with state crime labs falsifying and planting evidence. The systems are only as reliable and secure as the leaders of the government and they have all become criminal and corrupt globalist lackeys.

Of course you think the system will never be used against you, until it is. But that is because you are all short sighted naïve Pollyannaish morans.
 Quoting: themessengernevermatters


Exactly right. These idiots that are promoting send your dna to China are bots trying to get people to think that is a good idea. They come out and say it solves crimes when in fact it does not, if dna is at a crime scene they still have go prove how it got there. But idiots think that because dna was there the crime is solved. Again, they still have to prove how your dna got there, just because it is there doesn't mean it wasn't planted there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82030106


No dumb Cocksuckers like yourself who have reading comprehension problems only think thats what we are saying. Video of a car driving from a crime scene by itself wont convict someone of committing that crime. But can give police a lead on who to look at and match with other evidence.

Its possible for anything to be planted at a crime scene. but there is great pains and documentation that takes place to make sure its not easy. theres no reason even trying to start telling as you clearly have no mental capacity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76389541


Look I see you are triggered, a firm believer in what the fake news programs you to believe. You, yourself are mow admitting the system is flawed and the dna is worthless. At least you have now figured it out and that is a win for you, celebrate and spread the real news.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82030106



Im triggered because im talking to a retard. GPS can be abuse as much as anything that exist. Your suggestion that any tools should never be used because they could be abused is beyond stupid. You would litterally have to ban almost everything.

again i dont think your wour worried about abuse, your worried about your past.
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Exactly right. These idiots that are promoting send your dna to China are bots trying to get people to think that is a good idea. They come out and say it solves crimes when in fact it does not, if dna is at a crime scene they still have go prove how it got there. But idiots think that because dna was there the crime is solved. Again, they still have to prove how your dna got there, just because it is there doesn't mean it wasn't planted there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82030106


No dumb Cocksuckers like yourself who have reading comprehension problems only think thats what we are saying. Video of a car driving from a crime scene by itself wont convict someone of committing that crime. But can give police a lead on who to look at and match with other evidence.

Its possible for anything to be planted at a crime scene. but there is great pains and documentation that takes place to make sure its not easy. theres no reason even trying to start telling as you clearly have no mental capacity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76389541


Look I see you are triggered, a firm believer in what the fake news programs you to believe. You, yourself are mow admitting the system is flawed and the dna is worthless. At least you have now figured it out and that is a win for you, celebrate and spread the real news.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82030106



Im triggered because im talking to a retard. GPS can be abuse as much as anything that exist. Your suggestion that any tools should never be used because they could be abused is beyond stupid. You would litterally have to ban almost everything.

again i dont think your wour worried about abuse, your worried about your past.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76389541


If the resources they are using aren't flawed then use them. If a system can be broken, then it is flawed and is an untruthful method. I think you are worried that people see through the flawed bullshit that is used to frame Pasty's. And honestly I do not care what your concern is, it has been established this method is not truthful and if you can't stand in the truth, then you stand for nothing.
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Re: Idaho murders: Sources tell Judge Jeanine Pirro 'genealogical DNA' helped nab suspect
Sounds like bullshit since these kits are nothing but what the purchaser chooses to use as their name when they send it in.

You can literally swab someone then put someone else's name on the paperwork that they enter into their Chinese database. This is why these kits aren't used in courts, but the police can use it to get a warrant. Sounds shady af.
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Most people use their name even though they might have a nickname for purposes of the maps and whatnot. But the thing is, I did Ancestry.Com years ago. I have hundreds of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th cousins who have also done that. So if they have DNA from a crime, they can zero in on the branch the DNA came from given all the data they have on file for people.
 Quoting: GA Girl


Dna at a crime scene doesn't prove anything other than dna is at a crime scene.

They still have to prove how the dna got there. If not, everyone could be framed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82030106


While that might be true, the DNA gives a starting place to look. And even if the DNA is planted, it still puts the police within close contact to the actual killer.
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Re: Idaho murders: Sources tell Judge Jeanine Pirro 'genealogical DNA' helped nab suspect
so instead of sniffing dogs they use a research lab to imprison people
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Re: Idaho murders: Sources tell Judge Jeanine Pirro 'genealogical DNA' helped nab suspect
Apparently they put DNA through an Ancestry database, like the ones you buy to send to China, and that's how they found the match.

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The suspect arrested in connection to the murders of four Idaho college students was nabbed at least in part thanks to "genealogical DNA" evidence, sources told Fox News' Judge Jeanine Pirro.

"[M]y sources are telling me that there is genealogical DNA that was established in this case that led the police to this particular suspect," Pirro said

"So when you try a murder case, you understand that you are still investigating until your closing statement. And I've done it many times now as it relates to genealogical evidence – they literally can get evidence back to the 1800s."

"So CODIS can give us that 30% solving of cases. But this genealogical DNA can give us a 90% chance of solving these cases. '

[link to www.foxnews.com (secure)]
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more reason to believe it's a ff.
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Re: Idaho murders: Sources tell Judge Jeanine Pirro 'genealogical DNA' helped nab suspect
The way this works is that people in your family have sent these kits in, and it doesn't have to be the suspect. It could be his sister, Mom, cousin, whoever.

The DNA ancestry companies OWN whatever DNA is sent in, and sell it to law enforcement who now have all the DNA ever sent in within their acquired DNA database.

So a victim scratches a perp who is wearing gloves and scratches his skin which is now under the victim's fingernails. That DNA is put through the DNA database created from the Chinese companies (CCP) who owns it that sold it to FBI and it may match a family member who has your same geneology.

Once the DNA is narrowed down through ancestry accounts they just find out who owns a white hyundia, then surveil them.

So, even if he didn't send his DNA to China, someone in his family sent theirs and that's all it takes for a close match. The rest is just parallel investigation.

BTW, the suspect now claims he is innocent (through his lawyer), and asked "who else did they arrest?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77800850


Again. Flawed system because anyone can send in dna and write down..let's just say your aunts name, commit crime then they pull up your aunt and get a warrant against your aunt. Easy to frame someone using this, and if that is a possibly. Which it is, then it should not be used. Now your aunt sits in jail with no bail until they figure this shit out. Should be illegal to use that to charge someone or get a warrant on someone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84884639


The point isn't that it's "proof," the point is that it narrows down who the SUSPECT might be.

Once you know that, you can take his ACTUAL DNA and compare with what's at the scene for a match.
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Re: Idaho murders: Sources tell Judge Jeanine Pirro 'genealogical DNA' helped nab suspect
The way this works is that people in your family have sent these kits in, and it doesn't have to be the suspect. It could be his sister, Mom, cousin, whoever.

The DNA ancestry companies OWN whatever DNA is sent in, and sell it to law enforcement who now have all the DNA ever sent in within their acquired DNA database.

So a victim scratches a perp who is wearing gloves and scratches his skin which is now under the victim's fingernails. That DNA is put through the DNA database created from the Chinese companies (CCP) who owns it that sold it to FBI and it may match a family member who has your same geneology.

Once the DNA is narrowed down through ancestry accounts they just find out who owns a white hyundia, then surveil them.

So, even if he didn't send his DNA to China, someone in his family sent theirs and that's all it takes for a close match. The rest is just parallel investigation.

BTW, the suspect now claims he is innocent (through his lawyer), and asked "who else did they arrest?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77800850


Again. Flawed system because anyone can send in dna and write down..let's just say your aunts name, commit crime then they pull up your aunt and get a warrant against your aunt. Easy to frame someone using this, and if that is a possibly. Which it is, then it should not be used. Now your aunt sits in jail with no bail until they figure this shit out. Should be illegal to use that to charge someone or get a warrant on someone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84884639


The point isn't that it's "proof," the point is that it narrows down who the SUSPECT might be.

Once you know that, you can take his ACTUAL DNA and compare with what's at the scene for a match.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84337672


Again, the data can easily manipulated to frame the suspect. It should be illegal to use a method as such when they are knowingly using it as a resource for investigative methods and to obtain warrants. They know this method is not 100% fail proof, yet the accused will sit in jail with no bond until a court approved DNA test result comes back in 5 to 6 weeks to prove innocence. You are innocent until PROVEN guilty and they know that this method proves nothing, as it can't even be used in courts for paternity.





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