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Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric

 
St Tidbits the Odd

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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
Actually pretty sure Electric Harleys would be welcomed and appreciated in Europe.
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Thread: Norwegian Ferry Company BANS Electric Vehicles for FIRE Danger

Um, ya, unless you plan on flying them to a destination that is better reached by a ferry.
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
Of course they will install modules that go - Brrrrrm Brrrrrrm !!!
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
They got the Flu Fighters and Green New Deal Day playing their 125th anniversary show.
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It aint over just yet


Wille Nelson plays Hells Angels concert.


Not until Wille says it is over and as he just turned 89, so not long now
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
Why do these bankers and ceos following the new world order all have funny last names?
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
Tell you what though: electric dirt bikes are fucking RAD.





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No resale value for the 2nd purchaser who wants to buy used only to learn they need a new battery which is over the cost of the vehicles worth

A struggling college student and her family scraped 15k for her first car. They chose electric. She drove 2 months only for it to die. She learned it needed a new 20k battery.
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
A few American remains will be found in the future - with bludgeoned skulls and signs of being cannibalized.

Others will be found in caves - like Lovelock Cave - the remains of 'the evil ones' the locals say were chased in, then burned alive.

The lessons for these 'we rule the world' beasts are stringent, exacting...
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The killer meteor is on our way in 2031, NASA is tracking it. Theres been articles on it.
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Why do these bankers and ceos following the new world order all have funny last names?
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Jochen Zeitz, like Klaus Schwartz are NOT German...FYI haha.
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Why do these bankers and ceos following the new world order all have funny last names?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83999784


Jochen Zeitz, like Klaus Schwartz are NOT German...FYI haha.
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'Ye Goode Olde name snatchers'.
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
Back to AMF Harley.
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Unbelievable!
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Of course they will install modules that go - Brrrrrm Brrrrrrm !!!
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It will come with heavy duty flaps you attach to the spokes for that realistic sound!
Just like when you were a kid.
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
A silent Harley-Davidson???? I'm sure that will go over real well. cruise
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
never been a fan of Harleys then they bought a competitor (Buell) just to shut down the line so they wouldn't have competition. Disgusting corporate piracy which has ruined society outside of their loud ugly motorcycles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83770599


Competition?

Buell was a travesty.
Half an engine, no attempt to balance the rotating mass, NOTHING will stay in adjustment, and stuff loosens up all over the bike.

Bad copies should be bought out and shut down to preserve value.

HD licensed a lot of their tech to Buell, but the product was shlocky AF.

Last Edited by Lost Pottawatomi on 01/22/2023 09:35 PM
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
A few years ago I would have laughed at this, but about a year ago I built an electric dirt bike that has totally changed my mind. Were I to be in the market for a motorcycle, it would without a doubt be electric. With the one exception of a touring motorcycle, but that's a teeny tiny market share, that I believe is pretty much dominated by Honda.

I think the battery tech is to the point where cars are kind of borderline, but an ICE motorcycle these days is quite frankly just asinine.

If HD can do it well, I have no doubt this will be a huge success. They absolutely have to try, though, or other companies will absolutely push them out of the market. The advantages and savings of an electric motorcycle are such that ICE motorcycles will be hated within a few years. For one thing, the performance of electric is off the charts. Even small electric motors can outperform all but the most powerful ICE equivalents in terms of cost and weight. Actually, the electric dirt bike I built can probably beat most HDs off the line, even though the top speed is less due to gearing. Then there's the ease of maintenance. Not much to go wrong if they're well built, no oil changes, and even brakes last almost forever because of regen braking. About the only maintenance is tires.
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Regen braking is a death-wish.
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
I can’t think of a worse example of a corporate CEO misreading his customer base than this via the Robb Report (Hat tip: Ed Driscoll, Instapundit)

“At some point in time, Harley Davidson will be all-electric,” the executive [Harley-Davidson CEO Jochen Zeitz] recently told Dezeen. “But that’s a long-term transition that needs to happen. It’s not something you do overnight.”

Zeitz’s pronouncement seems guaranteed to make a not-insignificant portion of the manufacturer’s customer base cringe. For many enthusiasts, the thing that really sets a Harley apart from other motorcycles—American-made or otherwise—is a thunderously loud internal combustion engine. But the company knows that no matter how important those large-displacement mills might be change is on the horizon.

Maybe by “long term” he means several generations from now. If not, this is a surefire recipe for disaster.

Less than 50%

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 Quoting: StellaBlue


Im an American and love Japanese bikes.

Harley will lead the way now to end the gasoline motor?
And Harley riders were all about buy American or your like anti American.
And now look at them, following the lead of the WEF!

Fuck Harley Davidson !skull_fing
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Corporate death wish

Bonehead move
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80876760
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The electric movement is going to be its own downfall.

A failing electric grid, rare-earth metals, even having enough copper for the wires … it will all be reversed soon enough.

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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
I thought AMC was bad, and now EV? Might as well call them a "Harvey" instead of Harley when it happens.
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Corporate death wish

Bonehead move
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80876760
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The electric movement is going to be its own downfall.

A failing electric grid, rare-earth metals, even having enough copper for the wires … it will all be reversed soon enough.

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 Quoting: Joe Camel


Its like all the flat earthers" forcing us all to change our lives and join them, because its the smartest thing to do.chuckle Their losing dimension by default.
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doublefacepalm

the old founders gonna be rolling in their graves

thestupid
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wtf.... give me a Panhead!!

That's it! Life is over..




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This thread is filled,, with poofer fucking losers,,, butthurt,,, because they can't afford an Electra glide,, on a Wal mart paycheck..


Just so ya'll know,,, I probably banged most of your women, after taken em for spin... oh,, wait you p7ssies got no bike and no women...
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
Any large bike manufacturer making this decision is gonna go bust fast...
That said, the days are numbered for them all imo. The world is heading towards all electric and at some point driverless and motorcycles will ultimately be banned sadly, just a matter of time....
I hate that thought btw...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57594442


It's impossible to go all electric.

It's impossible to go 50% electric.

The grid can't handle it. At 0.41% electric vehicles in California it is causing them to ration power.

The charging infrastructure isn't there.

The amount of cobalt and other rare earth minerals aren't available.

It's a pipe dream.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84885833


Of course it can't. The goal isn't to have us all owning EV; the goal is to have less people owning cars.

I'm hoping to fight off owning an EV as long as possible, but everyone is signing up with this arbitrary 2035 goal. Ghouls will push mass transit and/or community EV share.
I don’t care about your pronouns.
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
What's the difference between a vaccum cleaner and a Harley Davidson motorcycle?

You can only fit 1 dirtbag on a vaccum cleaner.
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
I have had the privilege of trying the HD Live Wire EV! It was brilliant. Sure it’s heavy, the range isn’t great and some of the UI choices baffle the mind, yet it was great. For those in a city, it’s amazing, however, I would add that HD need to upgrade the springs. It’s very heavy.

Yet, look beyond that. Imagine a little Honda GROM with an EV motor! Sounds fun and economically sound for those into climate change! I thought the bike was great! Again, for city use and short excursions outside the city. I’m excited for where the EV bike is going. Hell, even the Tesla is a good car. With that said, cars and bikes don’t equal the same experience. I drove a Tesla and loved it, for about 1k miles. It became boring and lifeless(hurts the environment more), yet EV bikes appeal to me!
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
I can’t think of a worse example of a corporate CEO misreading his customer base than this via the Robb Report (Hat tip: Ed Driscoll, Instapundit)

“At some point in time, Harley Davidson will be all-electric,” the executive [Harley-Davidson CEO Jochen Zeitz] recently told Dezeen. “But that’s a long-term transition that needs to happen. It’s not something you do overnight.”

Zeitz’s pronouncement seems guaranteed to make a not-insignificant portion of the manufacturer’s customer base cringe. For many enthusiasts, the thing that really sets a Harley apart from other motorcycles—American-made or otherwise—is a thunderously loud internal combustion engine. But the company knows that no matter how important those large-displacement mills might be change is on the horizon.

Maybe by “long term” he means several generations from now. If not, this is a surefire recipe for disaster.

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 Quoting: StellaBlue


clappa
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:doublefacepalm:

the old founders gonna be rolling in their graves

:thestupid:
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wtf.... give me a Panhead!!

That's it! Life is over..




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 Quoting: Room222


Pan Heads, Shovel Heads, even finally built a respectable crotch rocket! But nah, lets throw our American Heritage out with the bath water because larger voices calling??

I mean its not like hey we want to go along and get along and try out a few electric models and see what Americans think?
Nope all of those millions of dollars of motorcycles that we just sold you over the past 100 years, we wont be working on those outdated piece of shit relics. Were done with loserville, we're all about electric now! Just dont get them wet, or park them inside the garage attached to your house or we may all burn together?

Without even rebranding. Just say goodbye to what we knew and did, none of that even matters now cuz we are no longer able to accomodate logical thinking or anything a little more rational...now is the time!! We must act now!eyebatunicorn-1fingr
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Corporate death wish

Bonehead move
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80876760


No, not bonehead, all carefully planned.

Do you think that these executive really have a say in how their companies are run? No, that comes from a place far above their boardrooms.

See how literally EVERYTHING is changing at once? That is the handiwork of those in the shadows, not the supposed “heads” of corporations.
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That's why it will never work.
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
The joke used to be... Whats the diff between a Harley and a Hoover? (Where you mount the dirtbag).

Now the joke is... Whats the diff between a Harley and a Hoover? (They both suck!)
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
Corporate death wish

Bonehead move
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80876760


No, not bonehead, all carefully planned.

Do you think that these executive really have a say in how their companies are run? No, that comes from a place far above their boardrooms.

See how literally EVERYTHING is changing at once? That is the handiwork of those in the shadows, not the supposed “heads” of corporations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85131455


“But Hitler Crushed the Trade Unions!”

TIKhistory on utube

also goes into how the DAF dictated policy to the corporations.
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Re: Corporate suicide watch: Harley-Davidson plans to go all-electric
Why do these bankers and ceos following the new world order all have funny last names?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83999784


Jochen Zeitz, like Klaus Schwartz are NOT German...FYI haha.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85142038


Oh come on man!!
Lets all say it together now, you know its true!
BUt lets say in the voice of henry kissassenger or Clous swab.

Harley davidson has a rich history in american engine innovations, and will now lead the world in a global innitiative to give us leaders the power we deserve! We must end the ignorant error of gasoline carbon emitting earth destroying motors. And build a future we can all beleive in!
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