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Clear Shot Of Chinese Airship, weird payload

 
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here's the deal about this balloon...

It's almost assuredly not an issue. There's probably nothing on it but listening and environmental equipment.

That's not the issue.

The issue is China now knows they can get balloons halfway across the country with impunity.

Could China send EMP balloons all across the US? Looks like they've proven they can and the US has proven we'll let it happen.

Basically if the Chinese wanted to shut us down, they can... and we'd let it happen through our indecisiveness and lack of will.
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Unless we actually shoot the next one down that tries to cross our border.
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Not to worry
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here's the deal about this balloon...

It's almost assuredly not an issue. There's probably nothing on it but listening and environmental equipment.

That's not the issue.

The issue is China now knows they can get balloons halfway across the country with impunity.

Could China send EMP balloons all across the US? Looks like they've proven they can and the US has proven we'll let it happen.

Basically if the Chinese wanted to shut us down, they can... and we'd let it happen through our indecisiveness and lack of will.
 Quoting: The Årtist


I disagree.

If anything, this will compel the United States to pour resources into developing a counter response to a future similar balloon scenario.

It also puts this type of attack scenario on the US radar so to speak in order to monitor future occurrences.

China isn’t that stupid.

Only way this is any sort of trial run is if there’s an imminent threat from China within a very short period of time where US doesn’t have enough time to counter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79108163


While technically you are correct, the fact remains that the US has never been proactive. The population nor the government ever act in proactive ways. We have to wait for a mass shooting before putting in metal detectors, we have to lose a spouse to second hand smoke before we really quit smoking.

Americans do not change until there's a traumatic emotional event. We are emotionally reactive to everything and almost never logically responsive. This is why you see kids trotted out after every shooting, to illicit the emotional reaction. This is why we got the Kuwait babies in incubator story before Desert Storm in the 90s.

You personally might look at something like this and think of the proper and logical things to do. Our government doesn't think like you. Our government wants you dependent on them... our government likes reasons you may need them. Solving issues and threats before they happen doesn't give them more power and control over you. Any issue that can be leveraged for votes, money, or more power and control will never be solved.

This attack scenario has been well known since Operation Fishbowl. Yet here we are with a balloon going all the way across the country.

That being said, there is also reason to think we figured out, long before this balloon crossed into the country, what was on it and deemed it a non threat. You and I both damn well know they knew exactly what was on this thing long before it entered our airspace.

And it could also be a way of our government letting China THINK it has this new capability. It's not a bad strategy to allow your enemy to believe they have an advantage when they do not.
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here's the deal about this balloon...

It's almost assuredly not an issue. There's probably nothing on it but listening and environmental equipment.

That's not the issue.

The issue is China now knows they can get balloons halfway across the country with impunity.

Could China send EMP balloons all across the US? Looks like they've proven they can and the US has proven we'll let it happen.

Basically if the Chinese wanted to shut us down, they can... and we'd let it happen through our indecisiveness and lack of will.
 Quoting: The Årtist


You overlook the BIG issue: China scored a political coup here over the “ detente” idiots ….like Blinken heading over there to lecture them against supporting Russia and threatening them with sanctions. Even if his trip is rescheduled, US-China dynamics have now shifted to the benefit of US hardliners prepping for the threat from China, now a dominant topic. Which also boosts Chinese hardliners responding to the US rhetoric and military exercises and base expansions.

Furthermore this incident comes while the ponderous asshole SecDef Austin is out of the USA, touring Asia to drum up support for an eventual US war with China. Sure makes US defense promises look strong, eh?

If there is anything positive, maybe it will accelerate US moves to extricate diplomatically from war to the death in Ukraine and escalation with Russia..to a settlement….realizing it’s going to take time and resources to get ready for war with China.



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I know if i worked at that base,i would be putting in my retirement papers or quitting if i could to get the hell out of there now....since i now know i have been doxxed by china...

Knowing my family is clear danger now...
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China already has all their info because either the people who work there are on tiktok or their kids are.
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I know if i worked at that base,i would be putting in my retirement papers or quitting if i could to get the hell out of there now....since i now know i have been doxxed by china...

Knowing my family is clear danger now...
 Quoting: ChugALugging


China already has all their info because either the people who work there are on tiktok or their kids are.
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Don't forget all those so called "Chinese restaurants" in every town and corner of the U.S. 1dunno1
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Why haven't our Military Commanders arrested Biden for Treason, aiding and abetting the enemy, High Crimes?

WHY?? This is clearly an open act of treason.
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


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It looks like an antenna array like a satellite used for navigation and/or information gathering. This is why this one is a test apparatus and not the actual EMP payload that will be coming soon.
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Rep. Lauren Boebert

That balloon would never have made it over US soil if Trump was President.

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Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

#Kids2
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Why haven't our Military Commanders arrested Biden for Treason, aiding and abetting the enemy, High Crimes?

WHY?? This is clearly an open act of treason.
 Quoting: Loup Garou


They continue to pretend that Biden is in charge. First of all, Biden couldn't tell you what house he is in at any given moment, and two the DoD is covering up for the Biden Crime Family which makes them part of the treason.

You can read every page from the Biden Laptop in Hunter's own words. You don't need ABC News to tell you what is there.

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Where is Astromut when you need him?
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Left behind? I think not..
Hercules to the rescue..

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Fine. I’ll get the balloon.

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Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

#Kids2
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here's the deal about this balloon...

It's almost assuredly not an issue. There's probably nothing on it but listening and environmental equipment.

That's not the issue.

The issue is China now knows they can get balloons halfway across the country with impunity.

Could China send EMP balloons all across the US? Looks like they've proven they can and the US has proven we'll let it happen.

Basically if the Chinese wanted to shut us down, they can... and we'd let it happen through our indecisiveness and lack of will.
 Quoting: The Årtist


I disagree.

If anything, this will compel the United States to pour resources into developing a counter response to a future similar balloon scenario.

It also puts this type of attack scenario on the US radar so to speak in order to monitor future occurrences.

China isn’t that stupid.

Only way this is any sort of trial run is if there’s an imminent threat from China within a very short period of time where US doesn’t have enough time to counter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79108163


While technically you are correct, the fact remains that the US has never been proactive. The population nor the government ever act in proactive ways. We have to wait for a mass shooting before putting in metal detectors, we have to lose a spouse to second hand smoke before we really quit smoking.

Americans do not change until there's a traumatic emotional event. We are emotionally reactive to everything and almost never logically responsive. This is why you see kids trotted out after every shooting, to illicit the emotional reaction. This is why we got the Kuwait babies in incubator story before Desert Storm in the 90s.

You personally might look at something like this and think of the proper and logical things to do. Our government doesn't think like you. Our government wants you dependent on them... our government likes reasons you may need them. Solving issues and threats before they happen doesn't give them more power and control over you. Any issue that can be leveraged for votes, money, or more power and control will never be solved.

This attack scenario has been well known since Operation Fishbowl. Yet here we are with a balloon going all the way across the country.

That being said, there is also reason to think we figured out, long before this balloon crossed into the country, what was on it and deemed it a non threat. You and I both damn well know they knew exactly what was on this thing long before it entered our airspace.

And it could also be a way of our government letting China THINK it has this new capability. It's not a bad strategy to allow your enemy to believe they have an advantage when they do not.
 Quoting: The Årtist


You’re totally correct, but only IF such an attack fits the narrative and timing.

I don’t necessarily agree with your assessment that the government doesn’t behave proactively. There’s much that you or I will never know about because the government did in fact respond proactively and it never happened.

But when the timing fits the narrative, all bets are off.
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ScooterMcGavin Replying to @ksorbs:

I’m waiting for some anon to take his private plan fly up there and shoot it down with their AR-15 while “fortunate son” plays in the background

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Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

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NASA communication satelite, thats all we have all others are fake hoxes pushed by astrotards and alike, earth is not flat, but we didn't do anywhere.
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here's the deal about this balloon...

It's almost assuredly not an issue. There's probably nothing on it but listening and environmental equipment.

That's not the issue.

The issue is China now knows they can get balloons halfway across the country with impunity.

Could China send EMP balloons all across the US? Looks like they've proven they can and the US has proven we'll let it happen.

Basically if the Chinese wanted to shut us down, they can... and we'd let it happen through our indecisiveness and lack of will.
 Quoting: The Årtist


I disagree.

If anything, this will compel the United States to pour resources into developing a counter response to a future similar balloon scenario.

It also puts this type of attack scenario on the US radar so to speak in order to monitor future occurrences.

China isn’t that stupid.

Only way this is any sort of trial run is if there’s an imminent threat from China within a very short period of time where US doesn’t have enough time to counter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79108163


While technically you are correct, the fact remains that the US has never been proactive. The population nor the government ever act in proactive ways. We have to wait for a mass shooting before putting in metal detectors, we have to lose a spouse to second hand smoke before we really quit smoking.

Americans do not change until there's a traumatic emotional event. We are emotionally reactive to everything and almost never logically responsive. This is why you see kids trotted out after every shooting, to illicit the emotional reaction. This is why we got the Kuwait babies in incubator story before Desert Storm in the 90s.

You personally might look at something like this and think of the proper and logical things to do. Our government doesn't think like you. Our government wants you dependent on them... our government likes reasons you may need them. Solving issues and threats before they happen doesn't give them more power and control over you. Any issue that can be leveraged for votes, money, or more power and control will never be solved.

This attack scenario has been well known since Operation Fishbowl. Yet here we are with a balloon going all the way across the country.

That being said, there is also reason to think we figured out, long before this balloon crossed into the country, what was on it and deemed it a non threat. You and I both damn well know they knew exactly what was on this thing long before it entered our airspace.

And it could also be a way of our government letting China THINK it has this new capability. It's not a bad strategy to allow your enemy to believe they have an advantage when they do not.
 Quoting: The Årtist


here's the deal about this balloon...

It's almost assuredly not an issue. There's probably nothing on it but listening and environmental equipment.

That's not the issue.

The issue is China now knows they can get balloons halfway across the country with impunity.

Could China send EMP balloons all across the US? Looks like they've proven they can and the US has proven we'll let it happen.

Basically if the Chinese wanted to shut us down, they can... and we'd let it happen through our indecisiveness and lack of will.
 Quoting: The Årtist


I disagree.

If anything, this will compel the United States to pour resources into developing a counter response to a future similar balloon scenario.

It also puts this type of attack scenario on the US radar so to speak in order to monitor future occurrences.

China isn’t that stupid.

Only way this is any sort of trial run is if there’s an imminent threat from China within a very short period of time where US doesn’t have enough time to counter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79108163


While technically you are correct, the fact remains that the US has never been proactive. The population nor the government ever act in proactive ways. We have to wait for a mass shooting before putting in metal detectors, we have to lose a spouse to second hand smoke before we really quit smoking.

Americans do not change until there's a traumatic emotional event. We are emotionally reactive to everything and almost never logically responsive. This is why you see kids trotted out after every shooting, to illicit the emotional reaction. This is why we got the Kuwait babies in incubator story before Desert Storm in the 90s.

You personally might look at something like this and think of the proper and logical things to do. Our government doesn't think like you. Our government wants you dependent on them... our government likes reasons you may need them. Solving issues and threats before they happen doesn't give them more power and control over you. Any issue that can be leveraged for votes, money, or more power and control will never be solved.

This attack scenario has been well known since Operation Fishbowl. Yet here we are with a balloon going all the way across the country.

That being said, there is also reason to think we figured out, long before this balloon crossed into the country, what was on it and deemed it a non threat. You and I both damn well know they knew exactly what was on this thing long before it entered our airspace.

And it could also be a way of our government letting China THINK it has this new capability. It's not a bad strategy to allow your enemy to believe they have an advantage when they do not.
 Quoting: The Årtist


They are going to shoot down the balloon, like always, after the damage (either psychological or data driven) is already done. If the USA wanted to shoot down the balloon they could have done it already with the F-22 (65,000 ft elevation) or with a lazer from the TR3b Black Manta (that can fly at any elevation). But since we we are not supposed to know about the TR3b just like we were not supposed to know about the stealth bomber 35 years ago, they won't use the TR3b. They have to use the F-22 for their optics show. The only sensible conclusion is that it is a test apparatus to be replaced by an EMP device later on. Either way you are not talking the Hunter Biden Laptop story now are you?

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You scared pussies? Of a weather balloon? 10% Brandon will print 100 Billion dollars to fight the balloons. Follow the money, never let a crisis go to waste.

Do other countries shit the bed when a NASA balloon floats over? LOL -
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Why haven't our Military Commanders arrested Biden for Treason, aiding and abetting the enemy, High Crimes?

WHY?? This is clearly an open act of treason.
 Quoting: Loup Garou


They continue to pretend that Biden is in charge. First of all, Biden couldn't tell you what house he is in at any given moment, and two the DoD is covering up for the Biden Crime Family which makes them part of the treason.

You can read every page from the Biden Laptop in Hunter's own words. You don't need ABC News to tell you what is there.

[link to www.marcopolousa.org (secure)]
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wow, it is all there, right there if you dare to look.
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

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Pentagon has confirmed there are two balloons over the US [link to twitter.com (secure)]

Last Edited by Music muse on 02/04/2023 12:40 PM
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Impressive.
Now kill it.
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From what this guy says they may be scanning what's happening underground in the bases and the areas we know have underground bunkers.


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The squares are not solar panels but 8 solid state meta materials phase array antennas. Most likely a ground penetrating radar system. For some applications the satellites are too far and such system is offering better resolution. They are scanning our underground facilities.
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Left behind? I think not..
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Fine. I’ll get the balloon.

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Now that’s a proactive hero and a good role model for the youth.
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Solar panels
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Yep solar panels on the bottom so they are shaded from the sun by the shadow of the balloon.

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It looks like an antenna array like a satellite used for navigation and/or information gathering. This is why this one is a test apparatus and not the actual EMP payload that will be coming soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82475422


I agree that this could be a test run...

Yet, they do make nukes rather small. They can fit into cruise missiles. Who's to say there isn't one behind the antenna array...

All you need is a 10 Kt nuke detonated at 30 km to have an EMP pulse that could effect a 600 km radius...

These weather balloons have a 1.1 ton lift capacity or more. Well within the limits of carrying a small nuke...

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Pentagon has confirmed there are two balloons over the US [link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Music muse


Where's the second one...

There were rumors that one was around Alaska while the other was over Montana...

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Don't point your butt at these:


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looks exactly like the iss
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Not even close.

Just weather monitoring instruments with solar panels to provide power.
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Solar panels on the bottom of this thing and in the shadow of it.

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It’s an EMP delivery platform.

Satellites are used to spy not balloons.

Last Edited by Mason Firefly on 02/04/2023 01:46 PM
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Are you guys spying on the spy balloon?
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It’s an EMP delivery platform.

Satellites are used to spy not balloons.
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