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CAN THEY GET ANY LOWER??? US GOVT ARGUES IN COURT OF LAW THAT GOVT HAS RIGHT TO LIE UNDER OATH

 
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CAN THEY GET ANY LOWER??? US GOVT ARGUES IN COURT OF LAW THAT GOVT HAS RIGHT TO LIE UNDER OATH
Read specifically page 2 and 3 of this court order authored by a Utah Judge who had an employee of the Federal Govt LIE under OATH in his courtroom, then the Fed Atty's argue that agents of the Federal Govt have the freedom to lie under oath in court:

[link to wikispooks.com]

And people still believe this entire system is 'free' and aboveboard and have faith in their govt.
'When Plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men,
they create for themselves, in the course of time,
a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.'
Frederic Bastiat, 'The Law'
1850

++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
JohnSwinton, 1830-1901, Former chief-of-staff New York Times
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"The bold effort the present bank has made to control the Government, the distress it has wantonly produced ... are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American People should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution (The Bank of the United States), or the establishment of another like it." Andrew Jackson (December 2, 1834)
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Wow. Just fucking wow.
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Wow. Just fucking wow.
 Quoting: Bigbayou87


My thoughts exactly.

I've never begged for a pin but really, this should be pinned for the next month.

For anyone too lazy to click the link, here is a portion of the relevant info, verbatim:
"The Court found the Govt, and Mr. Hardy specifically (Hardy Har Har is a CIA Agent) to have PROVIDED FALSE AND MISLEADING statements to the Court through SWORN STATEMENTS. When the DECEPTION WAS REVEALED, THE GOVT ARGUED THAT IT HAD AUTHORITY TO MISLEAD THE COURT..."
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Why yes yes THEY can!
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Why yes yes THEY can!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351570


Those of us with any intelligence know these cocksuckers will lie, cheat and steal at every turn.

What is utterly amazing about this is it is now out in the open for all to see.

I wonder (facetiously) if this is set for the front page (or any page) of the NY Times or WAPost? Was it on CNN tonight? Fox? MSNBC? Rush Limbo???
'When Plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men,
they create for themselves, in the course of time,
a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.'
Frederic Bastiat, 'The Law'
1850

++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
JohnSwinton, 1830-1901, Former chief-of-staff New York Times
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"The bold effort the present bank has made to control the Government, the distress it has wantonly produced ... are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American People should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution (The Bank of the United States), or the establishment of another like it." Andrew Jackson (December 2, 1834)
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Why yes yes THEY can!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351570


Those of us with any intelligence know these cocksuckers will lie, cheat and steal at every turn.

What is utterly amazing about this is it is now out in the open for all to see.

I wonder (facetiously) if this is set for the front page (or any page) of the NY Times or WAPost? Was it on CNN tonight? Fox? MSNBC? Rush Limbo???
 Quoting: Seamus


yep and the news is bunk too so are the courts and everything inbetween

what we need is to get armed and take back our world from these pigs.
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Why yes yes THEY can!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351570


Those of us with any intelligence know these cocksuckers will lie, cheat and steal at every turn.

What is utterly amazing about this is it is now out in the open for all to see.

I wonder (facetiously) if this is set for the front page (or any page) of the NY Times or WAPost? Was it on CNN tonight? Fox? MSNBC? Rush Limbo???
 Quoting: Seamus


yep and the news is bunk too so are the courts and everything inbetween

what we need is to get armed and take back our world from these pigs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1387753


Yep. Anything 'establishment' has been taken over and is now in place to control/confuse/or condemn the masses.
'When Plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men,
they create for themselves, in the course of time,
a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.'
Frederic Bastiat, 'The Law'
1850

++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
JohnSwinton, 1830-1901, Former chief-of-staff New York Times
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"The bold effort the present bank has made to control the Government, the distress it has wantonly produced ... are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American People should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution (The Bank of the United States), or the establishment of another like it." Andrew Jackson (December 2, 1834)
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Wow. Just fucking wow.
 Quoting: Bigbayou87


Wow. Just fucking wow. if thats legal then justice is out .crims will be next ,judge argues crims have the right to lie when sworn in. whats the point
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Why yes yes THEY can!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1351570


Those of us with any intelligence know these cocksuckers will lie, cheat and steal at every turn.

What is utterly amazing about this is it is now out in the open for all to see.

I wonder (facetiously) if this is set for the front page (or any page) of the NY Times or WAPost? Was it on CNN tonight? Fox? MSNBC? Rush Limbo???
 Quoting: Seamus


satanic anyone ,,the whole of the law will be do what ya fuckin desire. albert roach
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Wow. Just fucking wow.
 Quoting: Bigbayou87


Wow. Just fucking wow. if thats legal then justice is out .crims will be next ,judge argues crims have the right to lie when sworn in. whats the point
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1325079


Except it will be: an argument that COPS have the right (maybe even DUTY) to lie when testifying.

Remember last week a judge Steven David of the Indiana Supreme Ct ruled police in that state have a right now to enter your house without cause!

4th Amendment ? Gone
Magna Carta (1000 year old rule of law)? Gone

And now we have this... the govt explaining there's no need for its agents to be honest when they are attempting to lock you up for the next 100 years.
'When Plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men,
they create for themselves, in the course of time,
a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.'
Frederic Bastiat, 'The Law'
1850

++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
JohnSwinton, 1830-1901, Former chief-of-staff New York Times
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"The bold effort the present bank has made to control the Government, the distress it has wantonly produced ... are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American People should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution (The Bank of the United States), or the establishment of another like it." Andrew Jackson (December 2, 1834)
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Read specifically page 2 and 3 of this court order authored by a Utah Judge who had an employee of the Federal Govt LIE under OATH in his courtroom, then the Fed Atty's argue that agents of the Federal Govt have the freedom to lie under oath in court:

[link to wikispooks.com]

And people still believe this entire system is 'free' and aboveboard and have faith in their govt.
 Quoting: Seamus


send it to alex he'll go off.
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Welcome to the Soviet States of America!

Your papers, citizen...NOW!
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BUMP

and please bump this post today.... it needs to be shared with people.
'When Plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men,
they create for themselves, in the course of time,
a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.'
Frederic Bastiat, 'The Law'
1850

++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
JohnSwinton, 1830-1901, Former chief-of-staff New York Times
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"The bold effort the present bank has made to control the Government, the distress it has wantonly produced ... are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American People should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution (The Bank of the United States), or the establishment of another like it." Andrew Jackson (December 2, 1834)
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Won't be pinned, since it was lying about abuses toward Muslims.
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As long as the majority of people continue to believe that the best idea is to create a ruling class who are exempt from the rules they create for the rest of society, these are the types of results one should expect.

When anyone wants to gain at the expense of others, all one has to do is go to the ruling class who are already exempt from the rules and gain their favors.

This is the 'hole in the boat', 'the weakest link in the chain' through which the corruption flows.

Once you establish a group of people who are exempt from the rules, you've already created the corruption - the source of imminent failure.

This is the root problem shared by state-capitalism, state-socialism, and state-communism and why the aforementioned will continue to fail no matter how many times (and in how many different forms) they are attempted.

"Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it."
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"If there is one thing we've learned from history it's that we haven't learned from history."
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You must understand this:

A. The first justice system belongs to the gubberment.

B. The second justice system belongs to coporations.

C. The third justice system belongs to the rich

D. The fourth justice system belongs to homo's.

E. And you, my friend are stuck with the LAST and MOST EXTREME form of justice, the fifth rung of HELL where you WILL be found guilty and packed away to prison to esentually be a frigging SLAVE working for .20 an hour and getting porked in the poop chute.
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Well, geez. Lying on purpose from the government. Who'd a thunk.

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'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.'

(sapp vs tallahassee)
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Read specifically page 2 and 3 of this court order authored by a Utah Judge who had an employee of the Federal Govt LIE under OATH in his courtroom, then the Fed Atty's argue that agents of the Federal Govt have the freedom to lie under oath in court:

[link to wikispooks.com]

And people still believe this entire system is 'free' and aboveboard and have faith in their govt.
 Quoting: Seamus


Do we need any more proof that America is turning into Animal Farm??

"Four legs good, two legs better!"
sheepsheepsheepsheepsheepsheep
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Read specifically page 2 and 3 of this court order authored by a Utah Judge who had an employee of the Federal Govt LIE under OATH in his courtroom, then the Fed Atty's argue that agents of the Federal Govt have the freedom to lie under oath in court:

[link to wikispooks.com]

And people still believe this entire system is 'free' and aboveboard and have faith in their govt.
 Quoting: Seamus


Do we need any more proof that America is turning into Animal Farm??

"Four legs good, two legs better!"
sheepsheepsheepsheepsheepsheep

 Quoting: cdevidal


Orwell was right (again).

These legal docs though prove America HAS TURNED into AF.
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bump and REQUEST PIN
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Read specifically page 2 and 3 of this court order authored by a Utah Judge who had an employee of the Federal Govt LIE under OATH in his courtroom, then the Fed Atty's argue that agents of the Federal Govt have the freedom to lie under oath in court:

[link to wikispooks.com]

And people still believe this entire system is 'free' and aboveboard and have faith in their govt.
 Quoting: Seamus


Do we need any more proof that America is turning into Animal Farm??

"Four legs good, two legs better!"
sheepsheepsheepsheepsheepsheep

 Quoting: cdevidal


Orwell was right (again).

These legal docs though prove America HAS TURNED into AF.
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My mistake, you are definitely correct.
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bump and pin request and five stars
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Read specifically page 2 and 3 of this court order authored by a Utah Judge who had an employee of the Federal Govt LIE under OATH in his courtroom, then the Fed Atty's argue that agents of the Federal Govt have the freedom to lie under oath in court:

[link to wikispooks.com]

And people still believe this entire system is 'free' and aboveboard and have faith in their govt.
 Quoting: Seamus


it's all done...game over...the whole thing is collapsing from within on the stench of the corruption and lies.
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Can I lie in Court?
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Utah?
Look for paul Pantone, whom they put in the nuthouse to rot away, as he invented an engine which uses hardly any gas.
They have some law that allows them to put in jail someone without a reason.
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Was it Hanson?
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Wow. Just fucking wow.
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5aonly in americaIdol1
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