Ice Melts in Greenland July 8-12: 97% IN FOUR DAYS. read it and weep. | |
Gregor Samsa
User ID: 20013815 Turkey 07/24/2012 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Researchers see this as a cause for alarm, rather than proof that it's simply part of a natural cycle and not driven by humans [link to www.iceagenow.com] A (partial) list of the specific glaciers that are growing in recent years [link to www.iceagenow.com] To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9031896 United States 07/24/2012 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just to add to the chaos... Effects of Rising Eustatic Sea Level on Earthquake Frequency along Shelf Areas of Pakistan [link to www.eurojournals.com] They concluded that... "Pakistan’s continental shelf shows an increasing trend in earthquake frequency which can be correlated to rising sea levels in same duration caused by extensive glacier melting as a result of global warming. The increase in earthquake frequency probably lies in the magnitude 3-3.9 and in depth range from 0 to 40 km." What would a global rise of sea level at a dramatic rate cause? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18836223 United States 07/24/2012 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You realize that GREENLAND and ICELAND were named like they are because early Viking explorers didn't want others to follow to their new available lands so they named the nice green areas where it would be nice to live ICELAND and the frozen over piece of crap GREENLAND. This was early Viking propaganda... ;) |
samanthasunflower
User ID: 14930415 United States 07/24/2012 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 97% of the ice did not melt. They claim to have proof that 97% of all the glaciers have some melting. So if a glacier that is 100 meters thick looses 1/2 inch during the summer, and then gains 2 inches in winter, should I freak out? We are going through a natural cycle. Sadly, this will be painful to many people as the weather changes from what people are used to. We will adapt just like people in the past have. Just don't go grabbing virgins to throw into the volcanoes just because you see a little water, on to of the ice, in the summer. |
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Anne O'Mally
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Anne O'Mally
(OP) User ID: 20453322 United States 07/24/2012 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 97% of the ice did not melt. They claim to have proof that 97% of all the glaciers have some melting. So if a glacier that is 100 meters thick looses 1/2 inch during the summer, and then gains 2 inches in winter, should I freak out? Quoting: samanthasunflower We are going through a natural cycle. Sadly, this will be painful to many people as the weather changes from what people are used to. We will adapt just like people in the past have. Just don't go grabbing virgins to throw into the volcanoes just because you see a little water, on to of the ice, in the summer. no, it is very clear, 97% of GREENLANDS ice sheet. the article is about GREENLAND. we haven't even explored iceland or the antarctic yet. shall we go there? worth my weight in squirrels. |
Nine's
User ID: 12109328 United States 07/24/2012 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greenland Ice Sheet Melt Nearing Critical ‘Tipping Point’ The new findings show that the reflectivity of the Greenland ice sheet, particularly the high-elevation areas where snow typically accumulates year-round, have reached a record low since records began in 2000. This indicates that the ice sheet is absorbing more energy than normal, potentially leading to another record melt year — just two years after the 2010 record melt season. “In this condition, the ice sheet will continue to absorb more solar energy in a self-reinforcing feedback loop that amplifies the effect of warming,” wrote Ohio State polar researcher Jason Box on the meltfactor.org blog. Greenland is the world's largest island, and it holds 680,000 cubic miles of ice. If all of this ice were to melt — which, luckily won't happen anytime soon — the oceans would rise by more than 20 feet. [link to www.climatecentral.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12420269 Australia 07/24/2012 10:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 97% of the ice did not melt. They claim to have proof that 97% of all the glaciers have some melting. So if a glacier that is 100 meters thick looses 1/2 inch during the summer, and then gains 2 inches in winter, should I freak out? Quoting: samanthasunflower We are going through a natural cycle. Sadly, this will be painful to many people as the weather changes from what people are used to. We will adapt just like people in the past have. Just don't go grabbing virgins to throw into the volcanoes just because you see a little water, on to of the ice, in the summer. no, it is very clear, 97% of GREENLANDS ice sheet. the article is about GREENLAND. we haven't even explored iceland or the antarctic yet. shall we go there? [link to www.nasa.gov] Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. OP Comprehension fail. For several days this month, Greenland's surface ice cover melted over a larger area than at any time in more than 30 years of satellite observations. Nearly the entire ice cover of Greenland, from its thin, low-lying coastal edges to its two-mile-thick center, experienced some degree of melting at its surface, according to measurements from three independent satellites analyzed by NASA and university scientists. On average in the summer, about half of the surface of Greenland's ice sheet naturally melts. At high elevations, most of that melt water quickly refreezes in place. Near the coast, some of the melt water is retained by the ice sheet and the rest is lost to the ocean. But this year the extent of ice melting at or near the surface jumped dramatically. According to satellite data, an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface thawed at some point in mid-July. op yes we shall go there.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20456065 United States 07/24/2012 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It means, that unless drastic action is taken, and by that, I mean relocation of a viable breeding colony to Antarctica in the Southern hemisphere, in two or three years, our friends the polar bear will be no more. nah they will just start eating your fellow royal subjects,the canadians |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1533618 United States 07/24/2012 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a point of clarification... where are the actual satelite photos of melted ice? All i.see are red .and white 8th grade drawings. Ehem.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1533618 look at the articles, ding dong. it's all there. No.... just some cheap gif images. Where are the actual satellite images? |
Anne O'Mally
(OP) User ID: 20453322 United States 07/24/2012 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 97% of the ice did not melt. They claim to have proof that 97% of all the glaciers have some melting. So if a glacier that is 100 meters thick looses 1/2 inch during the summer, and then gains 2 inches in winter, should I freak out? Quoting: samanthasunflower We are going through a natural cycle. Sadly, this will be painful to many people as the weather changes from what people are used to. We will adapt just like people in the past have. Just don't go grabbing virgins to throw into the volcanoes just because you see a little water, on to of the ice, in the summer. no, it is very clear, 97% of GREENLANDS ice sheet. the article is about GREENLAND. we haven't even explored iceland or the antarctic yet. shall we go there? [link to www.nasa.gov] Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. OP Comprehension fail. For several days this month, Greenland's surface ice cover melted over a larger area than at any time in more than 30 years of satellite observations. Nearly the entire ice cover of Greenland, from its thin, low-lying coastal edges to its two-mile-thick center, experienced some degree of melting at its surface, according to measurements from three independent satellites analyzed by NASA and university scientists. On average in the summer, about half of the surface of Greenland's ice sheet naturally melts. At high elevations, most of that melt water quickly refreezes in place. Near the coast, some of the melt water is retained by the ice sheet and the rest is lost to the ocean. But this year the extent of ice melting at or near the surface jumped dramatically. According to satellite data, an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface thawed at some point in mid-July. op yes we shall go there.... Extent of surface melt over Greenland’s ice sheet on July 8 (left) and July 12 (right). Measurements from three satellites showed that on July 8, about 40 percent of the ice sheet had undergone thawing at or near the surface. In just a few days, the melting had dramatically accelerated and an estimated 97 percent of the ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12. In the image, the areas classified as “probable melt” (light pink) correspond to those sites where at least one satellite detected surface melting. The areas classified as “melt” (dark pink) correspond to sites where two or three satellites detected surface melting. The satellites are measuring different physical properties at different scales and are passing over Greenland at different times. As a whole, they provide a picture of an extreme melt event about which scientists are very confident. Credit: Nicolo E. DiGirolamo, SSAI/NASA GSFC, and Jesse Allen, NASA Earth Observatory Quoting: Anne O'Mally [link to www.nasa.gov] nah. btw aussie anon cow, how is that la nina doing for ya? do i think we have done this dance before? you interpreted from a different article from the one via nasa i originally posted. Last Edited by Anne O'Mally on 07/24/2012 10:47 PM worth my weight in squirrels. |
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Canis Lupus
User ID: 1733274 Poland 07/24/2012 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | meh - just join the 'Fuck for Forest' team - we can still save the bees and few snails! meaning of life? neverending search for it and progress what would life be with all answers given? would there be any meaning left? the question is the answer |
Anne O'Mally
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20468447 Sweden 07/24/2012 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you had asked the locals instead of your UCLA commie professors you would have known that this happens in cycles of 40 years. Sometimes it all melts and then when the temperature cycle changes you get all the ice back. It's fascinating but you don't know that because you ask some commieprofessor in California with an agenda that has never even been up there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14422899 United States 07/24/2012 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you had asked the locals instead of your UCLA commie professors you would have known that this happens in cycles of 40 years. Sometimes it all melts and then when the temperature cycle changes you get all the ice back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20468447 It's fascinating but you don't know that because you ask some commieprofessor in California with an agenda that has never even been up there. |
SilverPatriot
User ID: 18456813 United States 07/24/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | El Niño and La Niña are probably the culprits and we are now entering an El Niño weather stage. NOAA's El Niño Page [link to www.elnino.noaa.gov] NOAA La Niña Page [link to www.elnino.noaa.gov] |
Anne O'Mally
(OP) User ID: 20453322 United States 07/24/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you had asked the locals instead of your UCLA commie professors you would have known that this happens in cycles of 40 years. Sometimes it all melts and then when the temperature cycle changes you get all the ice back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20468447 It's fascinating but you don't know that because you ask some commieprofessor in California with an agenda that has never even been up there. ...and you are posting from sweden? so how's those sea levels? [link to www.smhi.se] Increase of 3 mm/year since 1980 Since 1886, sea level around the Swedish coast has risen by almost 20 cm - equivalent to an annual rise of 1.5 mm. "Over the last 30 years, we have seen the rate of increase accelerate. Regression analysis shows the annual rise in sea level over the last 30 years to be 3 mm/year (1980-2009). This new rate is double the rate observed over the period 1886-2009" says oceanographer Thomas Hammarklint. worth my weight in squirrels. |
monsterrun
User ID: 20429476 Canada 07/24/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We've screwed up everything. The air we breathe, the land we live on and share with those we've allowed to survive, the water we drink and use to grow our crops, the waters that at one time were clean and healthy for many species of marine life. Oceans, ecosystems, plants, animals. Our children. We've screwed it all up. Quoting: Nine's Some will skim and either say or think, "it's just polar bears." Sadly, if it were baby seals that could be clubbed to death for money, there might be more reaction. Read it and weep. Indeed. hi nine's...:) YES. and they attribute the deaths of all the pelicans and 500 penguins in brazil to 'natural causes,' but do not explain what 'naturally caused' it. the consequential sequences. always with the double speak. It'S not the fault of humans as if they did it all and now they have to harvest what we seeded! it's the fault of good people Not tacking action when they should have, to prevent greedy coorporations to destroy our world! By letting them do what they do and telling ourselves we can't do shit about it! Well, yes it become our fault, because we knew and did not bother to act! To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth! The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be... Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together! your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you! The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love! The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself! There is no love in truth but there is truth in love! Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you! |
Canis Lupus
User ID: 1733274 Poland 07/24/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Sweedish friend - in XVII century there was a period when we could travel Baltic Sea on Horse between our countries. ;) Before there was a warm era when there were trees on Iceland and its a fact that Greenland was much warmer and more friendly. Another fact for the ecos is that before the GREENland period was another cold period which started the fall of Rome and mass movement of all tribes in Europe. Cycles. The cycles can get off sometimes but its also seen in history. Nothing new here. We have few more years but probably it will completely melt in about XXII-XXIII century. Thats also nothing new in earths history. meaning of life? neverending search for it and progress what would life be with all answers given? would there be any meaning left? the question is the answer |
samanthasunflower
User ID: 14930415 United States 07/24/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to weather.unisys.com] The above link shows global temperature. Notice the red color around greenland, that's why there is some melting of the glaciers. Also notice the blue on the West Coast of the US and Europe, that's why we've had such a cold summer. |
Anne O'Mally
(OP) User ID: 20453322 United States 07/24/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ncdc.noaa.gov] i have no idea why you all are attacking me personally over crap everyone is experiencing all over the world. seriously. get a grip. things are mixing up. worth my weight in squirrels. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20478824 Australia 07/24/2012 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you had asked the locals instead of your UCLA commie professors you would have known that this happens in cycles of 40 years. Sometimes it all melts and then when the temperature cycle changes you get all the ice back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20468447 It's fascinating but you don't know that because you ask some commieprofessor in California with an agenda that has never even been up there. ...and you are posting from sweden? so how's those sea levels? [link to www.smhi.se] Increase of 3 mm/year since 1980 Since 1886, sea level around the Swedish coast has risen by almost 20 cm - equivalent to an annual rise of 1.5 mm. "Over the last 30 years, we have seen the rate of increase accelerate. Regression analysis shows the annual rise in sea level over the last 30 years to be 3 mm/year (1980-2009). This new rate is double the rate observed over the period 1886-2009" says oceanographer Thomas Hammarklint. surely you can understand that the sea levels always go up and down. it's not like the planet was completely stable up until 1886 and then SUDDENLY THE SEA STARTED RISING!!! EEEEK!!! |
Anne O'Mally
(OP) User ID: 20453322 United States 07/24/2012 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We've screwed up everything. The air we breathe, the land we live on and share with those we've allowed to survive, the water we drink and use to grow our crops, the waters that at one time were clean and healthy for many species of marine life. Oceans, ecosystems, plants, animals. Our children. We've screwed it all up. Quoting: Nine's Some will skim and either say or think, "it's just polar bears." Sadly, if it were baby seals that could be clubbed to death for money, there might be more reaction. Read it and weep. Indeed. hi nine's...:) YES. and they attribute the deaths of all the pelicans and 500 penguins in brazil to 'natural causes,' but do not explain what 'naturally caused' it. the consequential sequences. always with the double speak. It'S not the fault of humans as if they did it all and now they have to harvest what we seeded! it's the fault of good people Not tacking action when they should have, to prevent greedy coorporations to destroy our world! By letting them do what they do and telling ourselves we can't do shit about it! Well, yes it become our fault, because we knew and did not bother to act! not all of us. i have lived awareness all my life, and done everything i could to promote it. which is why i am here. i have no idea what the heck these other jokers are up to!!!! :P worth my weight in squirrels. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16185941 United States 07/24/2012 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YEAH, THEY ONLY SAY WHERE ICE MELTS AND NEVER WHERE IT BUILDS UP OR WHERE TEMPS ARE HOT AND NOT WHERE COOL, IT IS OBVIIOUSLY a UN scam to anyone with a brain...oh excluding monkies are we devolving???quick quick.. UN finds we are devolving because the sun is the wrong color....we must paint our faces green to reflect the right color Do I have concensus here fellow "scientists"? |
Anne O'Mally
(OP) User ID: 20453322 United States 07/24/2012 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you had asked the locals instead of your UCLA commie professors you would have known that this happens in cycles of 40 years. Sometimes it all melts and then when the temperature cycle changes you get all the ice back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20468447 It's fascinating but you don't know that because you ask some commieprofessor in California with an agenda that has never even been up there. ...and you are posting from sweden? so how's those sea levels? [link to www.smhi.se] Increase of 3 mm/year since 1980 Since 1886, sea level around the Swedish coast has risen by almost 20 cm - equivalent to an annual rise of 1.5 mm. "Over the last 30 years, we have seen the rate of increase accelerate. Regression analysis shows the annual rise in sea level over the last 30 years to be 3 mm/year (1980-2009). This new rate is double the rate observed over the period 1886-2009" says oceanographer Thomas Hammarklint. surely you can understand that the sea levels always go up and down. it's not like the planet was completely stable up until 1886 and then SUDDENLY THE SEA STARTED RISING!!! EEEEK!!! really, australia? [link to www.abc.net.au] Tasmanian scientists say melting polar ice is now the main cause of rising sea levels. Ten years of peer-reviewed research has been compiled by scientists at the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Co-operative Research Centre in Hobart. The report says melting polar ice is now contributing twice as much to rising sea levels as thermal expansion caused by ocean warming. One of the authors, oceanographer John Hunter, says some impact is irreversible and the report provides more impetus for action on climate change. "The sea level rise that we're going to get over the next 50 years, you can't really do anything about at all," he said. JULY 4 2012. worth my weight in squirrels. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8055979 United States 07/24/2012 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You realize that GREENLAND and ICELAND were named like they are because early Viking explorers didn't want others to follow to their new available lands so they named the nice green areas where it would be nice to live ICELAND and the frozen over piece of crap GREENLAND. This was early Viking propaganda... ;) I am noting that I would like to post YT vid of TechnoViking here, but am not, so as not to disturb thread. TechnoViking rocks! |