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(OP) User ID: 39160120  United States07/15/2013 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States07/15/2013 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get why people wanting to convict Zimmerman are so hung up on who started the fight? First of all, are we in elementary school? And secondly, that argument never worked with my parents but it seems to be all that matters to those of a certain political persuasion , I've noticed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35693444 Anyway, so what if George Zimmerman got out of his truck? So what if he DID follow TM? Following someone is not illegal, it's not even immoral. So how can people get all bent out of shape bc Zimmerman "followed" and yet think it was perfectly reasonable and acceptable that TM punched and tried to beat Zimmerman? There is just no logic to these arguments. The logical extension of the "he shouldn't have followed" argument is that there should no neighborhood watch at all, and that people should just cower in their homes... Any responsible human being knows that carrying a firearm under the protection of a ccw should avoid confrontation. Following is the job of law enforcement. Security guards and citizens observe and report. This man imo is guilty. I think walking around at night is not a crime. all of you saying that Trayvon Martin was in the wrong, or those of you who are insensitive and soulless that love to hear about how another "buck" was disposed of get pleasure from stories like this, what if this was your son? This could have been your son. I cannot believe that there are people out there condoning the killing of a boy. I think zimmerman followed martin, martin gave him hell for following him, zimmerman didnt like it(hes a cop wannabe), zimmerman started the fight, probably got his ass kicked by martin, and zimmerman got butt hurt and shot him. the evidence does not lie. have any of you actually watched any of the court room footage? Zimmermans mind was filled with hatred that evening. He was playing the role of a vigilante. the system has failed one of our citizens. the responding police officer did not even conduct a sobriety test of Mr. Zimmerman. Martin had no dna on his hands indicating that he punched zimmerman, there was grass on the front of zimmerman's boots! indicating he was on top! I dont like the race card one bit, it makes me very very uncomfortable. I believe we all know that we are human beings and equal on all levels.but some choose to believe that we are not and hate other colors of skin. My stepfather is of another color and i absolutely despise racial hatred, bias, bigotry and the like. George, Karma will find you. I think you see through emotion and not logic. There is no evidence there was hate in his heart, that he was being a vigilante, etc. These are your emotions. There is no evidence for anything you're saying here at all. Speculation based on feeling.... The evidence says otherwise. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States07/15/2013 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Molon Labe 2013 The logical extension of the "he shouldn't have followed" argument is that there should no neighborhood watch at all, and that people should just cower in their homes... Any responsible human being knows that carrying a firearm under the protection of a ccw should avoid confrontation. Following is the job of law enforcement. Security guards and citizens observe and report. This man imo is guilty. I think walking around at night is not a crime. all of you saying that Trayvon Martin was in the wrong, or those of you who are insensitive and soulless that love to hear about how another "buck" was disposed of get pleasure from stories like this, what if this was your son? This could have been your son. I cannot believe that there are people out there condoning the killing of a boy. I think zimmerman followed martin, martin gave him hell for following him, zimmerman didnt like it(hes a cop wannabe), zimmerman started the fight, probably got his ass kicked by martin, and zimmerman got butt hurt and shot him. the evidence does not lie. have any of you actually watched any of the court room footage? Zimmermans mind was filled with hatred that evening. He was playing the role of a vigilante. the system has failed one of our citizens. the responding police officer did not even conduct a sobriety test of Mr. Zimmerman. Martin had no dna on his hands indicating that he punched zimmerman, there was grass on the front of zimmerman's boots! indicating he was on top! I dont like the race card one bit, it makes me very very uncomfortable. I believe we all know that we are human beings and equal on all levels.but some choose to believe that we are not and hate other colors of skin. My stepfather is of another color and i absolutely despise racial hatred, bias, bigotry and the like. George, Karma will find you. :tgfp2: So it was ok for Trayvon to assault a bus driver, and homeless people.. Confrontation? I bet George got jumped just as he said.. No, assaulting innocent people is never acceptable. That is why Trayvon is dead. This has nothing to do with anything about a bus driver or homeless people. Hopefully Mr. Zimmerman knew nothing about Mr.Martin vice versa. I would like to just stick to facts about that evening only. as the courts did. Yes of course we can have a discussion about Trayvon's fb page, and George being a cop wannabe. but that's besides the point. A grown man (Armed, and mindset was hatred, NEN # "Fucking punks" "They always come out at night") followed an innocent (Until proven guilty, as far as I know he was not proven to have committed any crime February 26 2012) 17 year old BOY, now the boy is dead. I completely understand wanting to look out for your neighbors, absolutely i would do the same, i have a wife and son. and i am a security going into corrections hopefully next week. I was taught in my ccw training you do not provoke any confrontation period. This could have been your son, my son, your brother, cousin, nephew. There just was not enough evidence. there was a loophole, George knew what to say to justify his actions. Because he was a cop wannabe. People that think like this just can't be reasoned with. I find that so alarming. |
| H0NEYBEE
(OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/15/2013 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get why people wanting to convict Zimmerman are so hung up on who started the fight? First of all, are we in elementary school? And secondly, that argument never worked with my parents but it seems to be all that matters to those of a certain political persuasion , I've noticed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35693444 Anyway, so what if George Zimmerman got out of his truck? So what if he DID follow TM? Following someone is not illegal, it's not even immoral. So how can people get all bent out of shape bc Zimmerman "followed" and yet think it was perfectly reasonable and acceptable that TM punched and tried to beat Zimmerman? There is just no logic to these arguments. The logical extension of the "he shouldn't have followed" argument is that there should no neighborhood watch at all, and that people should just cower in their homes... Any responsible human being knows that carrying a firearm under the protection of a ccw should avoid confrontation. Following is the job of law enforcement. Security guards and citizens observe and report. This man imo is guilty. I think walking around at night is not a crime. all of you saying that Trayvon Martin was in the wrong, or those of you who are insensitive and soulless that love to hear about how another "buck" was disposed of get pleasure from stories like this, what if this was your son? This could have been your son. I cannot believe that there are people out there condoning the killing of a boy. I think zimmerman followed martin, martin gave him hell for following him, zimmerman didnt like it(hes a cop wannabe), zimmerman started the fight, probably got his ass kicked by martin, and zimmerman got butt hurt and shot him. the evidence does not lie. have any of you actually watched any of the court room footage? Zimmermans mind was filled with hatred that evening. He was playing the role of a vigilante. the system has failed one of our citizens. the responding police officer did not even conduct a sobriety test of Mr. Zimmerman. Martin had no dna on his hands indicating that he punched zimmerman, there was grass on the front of zimmerman's boots! indicating he was on top! I dont like the race card one bit, it makes me very very uncomfortable. I believe we all know that we are human beings and equal on all levels.but some choose to believe that we are not and hate other colors of skin. My stepfather is of another color and i absolutely despise racial hatred, bias, bigotry and the like. George, Karma will find you. I think you see through emotion and not logic. There is no evidence there was hate in his heart, that he was being a vigilante, etc. These are your emotions. There is no evidence for anything you're saying here at all. Speculation based on feeling.... The evidence says otherwise.  "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States07/15/2013 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Molon Labe 2013 The logical extension of the "he shouldn't have followed" argument is that there should no neighborhood watch at all, and that people should just cower in their homes... Any responsible human being knows that carrying a firearm under the protection of a ccw should avoid confrontation. Following is the job of law enforcement. Security guards and citizens observe and report. This man imo is guilty. I think walking around at night is not a crime. all of you saying that Trayvon Martin was in the wrong, or those of you who are insensitive and soulless that love to hear about how another "buck" was disposed of get pleasure from stories like this, what if this was your son? This could have been your son. I cannot believe that there are people out there condoning the killing of a boy. I think zimmerman followed martin, martin gave him hell for following him, zimmerman didnt like it(hes a cop wannabe), zimmerman started the fight, probably got his ass kicked by martin, and zimmerman got butt hurt and shot him. the evidence does not lie. have any of you actually watched any of the court room footage? Zimmermans mind was filled with hatred that evening. He was playing the role of a vigilante. the system has failed one of our citizens. the responding police officer did not even conduct a sobriety test of Mr. Zimmerman. Martin had no dna on his hands indicating that he punched zimmerman, there was grass on the front of zimmerman's boots! indicating he was on top! I dont like the race card one bit, it makes me very very uncomfortable. I believe we all know that we are human beings and equal on all levels.but some choose to believe that we are not and hate other colors of skin. My stepfather is of another color and i absolutely despise racial hatred, bias, bigotry and the like. George, Karma will find you. :tgfp2: So it was ok for Trayvon to assault a bus driver, and homeless people.. Confrontation? I bet George got jumped just as he said.. Why do you believe he got jumped? he only had a bloody nose, and two small cuts on his head, no bruises or swelling either. If someone was following me i would be a little pissed off. Black or white. He should not have been following, nen# said "we do not need you to do that, we have an officer on the way". At which point he was returning to his car. You know TM was found with jewelry stolen from the neighborhood right? The whole reason they had formed this neighborhood watch. And the night in question he was high. If I see a kid in the rain, that I've never seen before, acting weird after a bunch of thefts in the neighborhood, I'm going to call 911 also..and I'm going to try to keep sight of the perp. If they say we don't need you to do that, I'd do what George did and turn towards my car. If I'm then ambushed and attacked and I have a gun, I'm going to use it. That's the way our laws work. If you assault someone, they can defend themselves....which TM well knew as he was in the process of acquiring a gun - illegally. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States07/15/2013 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zimmerman could have been your son also. Quoting: Tangy So you think George should have let himself be beat just a bit more before firing his weapon? Absolutely to both of your comments. I would also tell my son to not follow anyone if he has a gun. We would not have this situation had George not followed this "fucking punk". What I dont understand is why George called him a "fucking punk" he had no contact with Martin prior to. He WAS a punk!!!! Hello! That argument would be a great one if he he hadn't turned out to be a thief who was high on drugs, kicked out of school, suspended for fighting.... He only fired because TM found the gun and they were wrestling for it. Come on, at least do some research at this point before going on the same tired stuff that's been hashed and rehashed and PROVEN in court. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23534110 United States07/15/2013 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Molon Labe 2013 The logical extension of the "he shouldn't have followed" argument is that there should no neighborhood watch at all, and that people should just cower in their homes... Any responsible human being knows that carrying a firearm under the protection of a ccw should avoid confrontation. Following is the job of law enforcement. Security guards and citizens observe and report. This man imo is guilty. I think walking around at night is not a crime. all of you saying that Trayvon Martin was in the wrong, or those of you who are insensitive and soulless that love to hear about how another "buck" was disposed of get pleasure from stories like this, what if this was your son? This could have been your son. I cannot believe that there are people out there condoning the killing of a boy. I think zimmerman followed martin, martin gave him hell for following him, zimmerman didnt like it(hes a cop wannabe), zimmerman started the fight, probably got his ass kicked by martin, and zimmerman got butt hurt and shot him. the evidence does not lie. have any of you actually watched any of the court room footage? Zimmermans mind was filled with hatred that evening. He was playing the role of a vigilante. the system has failed one of our citizens. the responding police officer did not even conduct a sobriety test of Mr. Zimmerman. Martin had no dna on his hands indicating that he punched zimmerman, there was grass on the front of zimmerman's boots! indicating he was on top! I dont like the race card one bit, it makes me very very uncomfortable. I believe we all know that we are human beings and equal on all levels.but some choose to believe that we are not and hate other colors of skin. My stepfather is of another color and i absolutely despise racial hatred, bias, bigotry and the like. George, Karma will find you. I think you see through emotion and not logic. There is no evidence there was hate in his heart, that he was being a vigilante, etc. These are your emotions. There is no evidence for anything you're saying here at all. Speculation based on feeling.... The evidence says otherwise.  |
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| Sir Phydeau
User ID: 22271457 United States07/15/2013 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting....O'Reilly is reporting that 5 of the 6 jurors believed that it was Zimmerman yelling for help on the 911 tape...only one juror was uncertain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5923331 A Juror is being interviewed on CNN by that anderson cooper dude. She said the same, also said that when they first went into deliberations that 3 were for not guilty, 2 for manslaughter and 1 for 2nd degree. Talking about what changed their minds now. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| Tangy
User ID: 33861925 United States07/15/2013 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting....O'Reilly is reporting that 5 of the 6 jurors believed that it was Zimmerman yelling for help on the 911 tape...only one juror was uncertain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5923331 A Juror is being interviewed on CNN by that anderson cooper dude. She said the same, also said that when they first went into deliberations that 3 were for not guilty, 2 for manslaughter and 1 for 2nd degree. Talking about what changed their minds now. Can you post a youtube of it later, Sir? I'm tv free since 2001.  |
| Tangy
User ID: 33861925 United States07/15/2013 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jeantel is on now. [link to weplaylive.tv] **edit** wow that link sucks.. lag lag lag Last Edited by Tangy on 07/15/2013 09:18 PM |
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| H0NEYBEE
(OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/15/2013 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting....O'Reilly is reporting that 5 of the 6 jurors believed that it was Zimmerman yelling for help on the 911 tape...only one juror was uncertain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5923331 A Juror is being interviewed on CNN by that anderson cooper dude. She said the same, also said that when they first went into deliberations that 3 were for not guilty, 2 for manslaughter and 1 for 2nd degree. Talking about what changed their minds now. Can you post a youtube of it later, Sir? I'm tv free since 2001. I missed it also. And I've pretty much been tv free since 2010.  "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| Sir Phydeau
User ID: 22271457 United States07/15/2013 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting....O'Reilly is reporting that 5 of the 6 jurors believed that it was Zimmerman yelling for help on the 911 tape...only one juror was uncertain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5923331 A Juror is being interviewed on CNN by that anderson cooper dude. She said the same, also said that when they first went into deliberations that 3 were for not guilty, 2 for manslaughter and 1 for 2nd degree. Talking about what changed their minds now. Can you post a youtube of it later, Sir? I'm tv free since 2001. [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| Sir Phydeau
User ID: 22271457 United States07/15/2013 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| Sir Phydeau
User ID: 22271457 United States07/15/2013 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting....O'Reilly is reporting that 5 of the 6 jurors believed that it was Zimmerman yelling for help on the 911 tape...only one juror was uncertain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5923331 A Juror is being interviewed on CNN by that anderson cooper dude. She said the same, also said that when they first went into deliberations that 3 were for not guilty, 2 for manslaughter and 1 for 2nd degree. Talking about what changed their minds now. Can you post a youtube of it later, Sir? I'm tv free since 2001. I missed it also. And I've pretty much been tv free since 2010. I posted them up, baby. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| H0NEYBEE
(OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/15/2013 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |   "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| H0NEYBEE
(OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/15/2013 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sir Phydeau A Juror is being interviewed on CNN by that anderson cooper dude. She said the same, also said that when they first went into deliberations that 3 were for not guilty, 2 for manslaughter and 1 for 2nd degree. Talking about what changed their minds now. Can you post a youtube of it later, Sir? I'm tv free since 2001. I missed it also. And I've pretty much been tv free since 2010. I posted them up, baby. Oh, thanks sweetheart! "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| Tangy
User ID: 33861925 United States07/15/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting....O'Reilly is reporting that 5 of the 6 jurors believed that it was Zimmerman yelling for help on the 911 tape...only one juror was uncertain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5923331 A Juror is being interviewed on CNN by that anderson cooper dude. She said the same, also said that when they first went into deliberations that 3 were for not guilty, 2 for manslaughter and 1 for 2nd degree. Talking about what changed their minds now. Can you post a youtube of it later, Sir? I'm tv free since 2001. [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Thanks! Listening now. Thank you for the Jeantel link also. I missed half of it due to stream lag. |
| Tangy
User ID: 33861925 United States07/15/2013 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting....O'Reilly is reporting that 5 of the 6 jurors believed that it was Zimmerman yelling for help on the 911 tape...only one juror was uncertain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5923331 A Juror is being interviewed on CNN by that anderson cooper dude. She said the same, also said that when they first went into deliberations that 3 were for not guilty, 2 for manslaughter and 1 for 2nd degree. Talking about what changed their minds now. Can you post a youtube of it later, Sir? I'm tv free since 2001. I missed it also. And I've pretty much been tv free since 2010.  |
| H0NEYBEE
(OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/15/2013 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Sir Phydeau Piers Morgan said "she's a star now"....Seriously? Ugh!  "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| H0NEYBEE
(OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/15/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After interviewing nearly three dozen people in the George Zimmerman murder case, the FBI found no evidence that racial bias was a motivating factor in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, records released Thursday show. Even the lead detective in the case, Sanford Det. Chris Serino, told agents that he thought Zimmerman profiled Trayvon because of his attire and the circumstances but not his race. Serino saw Zimmerman as having little hero complex, but not as a racist. Read more here: [link to www.mcclatchydc.com] "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| Kiwi25
User ID: 43393767  New Zealand07/15/2013 11:23 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just caught this "live" in NZ thanks to your alert. At first I thought ...what the hell is she speaking for??? But during the interview and at the end.. I thought WOW!.. what a great job and what a revealing interview. I thought CNN ( panel members ) got handed their ass ( arse in NZ..:-) ). I completely agree with the verdict.. and I was very interested to learn that at first it was a very split jury but they worked hard and came to the correct decision based on the evidence and the law. |
| Sir Phydeau
User ID: 22271457 United States07/15/2013 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just caught this "live" in NZ thanks to your alert. At first I thought ...what the hell is she speaking for??? Quoting: Kiwi25 But during the interview and at the end.. I thought WOW!.. what a great job and what a revealing interview. I thought CNN ( panel members ) got handed their ass ( arse in NZ..:-) ). I completely agree with the verdict.. and I was very interested to learn that at first it was a very split jury but they worked hard and came to the correct decision based on the evidence and the law. Lol ... my roommate came in right as I was watching it and says, "Dude, isn't it about time to let this go?" "Man, this is a juror being interviewed, I couldn't pass this up. I get a chance to see what went on behind those closed doors." "Yeah, I guess you have a point." "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
| Kiwi25
User ID: 43393767 New Zealand07/16/2013 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Sir P, I have followed the trial via your threads on GLP and these are my first comments. I feel I have been watching history. My wife is sick of me too... :-)... However the "news" coverage here is AP and Reutiers and is superficial and biased. Still showing the Trayvon at 12 yrs old photo.. as I see also in the USA. ( a kind of lie). After the verdict the news here on TV gave the impression that it was a shock "not guilty" and everyone disagreed. We actually sent in a complaint to our main TV channel for biased reporting. The polls show 2:1 support of verdict. Thus the Jurors report and opinions were so refreshing. This may be a pivotal moment in USA race relations ( an opposite of OJ ). My wife was a teacher in the USA and says that if she had called any of her 17 yr old black or hispanic students "children" she would have gotten an instant reaction of outrage. WE are Adults!!! ( some of them fathers or mothers at this age). This idea that a child was shot.. is BS....spin...lies. |
| H0NEYBEE
(OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/16/2013 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King,Jr. |
| H0NEYBEE
(OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/16/2013 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just caught this "live" in NZ thanks to your alert. At first I thought ...what the hell is she speaking for??? Quoting: Kiwi25 But during the interview and at the end.. I thought WOW!.. what a great job and what a revealing interview. I thought CNN ( panel members ) got handed their ass ( arse in NZ..:-) ). I completely agree with the verdict.. and I was very interested to learn that at first it was a very split jury but they worked hard and came to the correct decision based on the evidence and the law. Lol ... my roommate came in right as I was watching it and says, "Dude, isn't it about time to let this go?" "Man, this is a juror being interviewed, I couldn't pass this up. I get a chance to see what went on behind those closed doors." "Yeah, I guess you have a point." Thing is, the USDOJ is not going to let it go and all the groups wanting Zimmerman to be retried again. They don't like the outcome so they want to continue until they get the verdict they want. Sad world we are in. We can't have faith in the justice system at all, when we have people running rampant all over it.  "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King,Jr. |
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User ID: 30692843 United States07/16/2013 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zimmerman could have been your son also. Quoting: Tangy So you think George should have let himself be beat just a bit more before firing his weapon? Absolutely to both of your comments. I would also tell my son to not follow anyone if he has a gun. We would not have this situation had George not followed this "fucking punk". What I dont understand is why George called him a "fucking punk" he had no contact with Martin prior to. Animals in nature develop defense mechanisms. Why do you think GOD did that? Or if you do not believe in GOD, why do you think nature works that way? Self defense is natural. Sad that a young person died, but I am sad when a child dies of cancer too. 7 Billion people on the planet! That's a BIG number! And I am one. |
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(OP) User ID: 39160120 United States07/16/2013 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And we thought it would be over after the verdict. It seems like it's still just beginning. This is about an agenda to repeal our "stand your ground" law, here in Florida. The USDOJ doesn't care about these families. They care about what they are trying to accomplish. These families are just merely pawns in the game. "I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples." Mother Teresa America-We represent 5% of the world, yet we represent 25% of the incarcerated world. We are no longer the "land of the free" we are now the "largest prison nation in the world." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King,Jr. |
