ZimmermanTrial - The Verdict - (?)

If she's at the feeding trough we'll have to wait a while.

100000000% AGREE; what an idiot; probably a token job for him

that's not true, they can find him Not Guilty of 2nd Degree Murder but still Guilty of Manslaughter. how? Because if they don't believe his Self Defense BS (who could blame them if they don't?), they can still find him Not Guilty of 2nd Degree Murder due to not having the 'Depraved mind' bit:


SECOND DEGREE MURDER To prove the crime of Second Degree Murder, the State must prove the following threeelements beyond a reasonable doubt:
1. Trayvon Martin is dead.
2. The death was caused by the criminal act of George Zimmerman.
3. There was an unlawful killing of Trayvon Martin by an act imminently dangerousto another and demonstrating a depraved mind without regard for human life.




Then they will have to review the Manslaughter charge. Already having not believed his BS Self Defense, they would likely find him Guilty as there is no 'Depraved mind' bit:


MANSLAUGHTERTo prove the crime of Manslaughter, the State must prove the following two elementsbeyond a reasonable doubt:
1. Trayvon Martin is dead.
2. George Zimmerman intentionally committed an act or acts that caused thedeath of Trayvon Martin.

LMAO! Y'all are really making me laugh this morning!!

Yes, that's correct and I believe that this judge in particular would be harsh handing out her sentence.

I know it's hard for you to believe that 6 will see it for Manslaughter but keep in mind that these are 6 women. They all want to get along, they want to be friends, they like to cooperate. They see all the protesters outside, they all probably were at least aware of the racial overtones of this case before they were called to be jurors. They are mostly white women...some, no doubt, harboring a great sense of "white guilt" but also, not wanting anyone to track THEM down and accuse THEM of being racist. Now , if I was on the jury, I wouldn't give a damn. We could sit there for days, weeks, whatever before I would convict. But that's just me.

Yoda, I have nothing against you, but you're REALLY are making yourself look stupid or uninformed. Sorry.

Not a very good sign that the jury is taking so long. Someone in that room doubts Zimmerman's self defense claim.

I did, there are twinkie wrappers and milk cartons everywhere!

it's neighborhood watch not neighborhood follow

and if you want to talk more about following, ZImmerman should've followed neighborhood watch protocol, but he did not. ZImmerman should've followed the 311/911 operator's instruction/suggestion/whatever, but he did not.

No, women think things through to the nth degree.

My cell doesn't work in the elevator :(......All I could think was that I would be stuck in there for hours, miss the verdict and have a howling mob surrounding me when I was finally freed.

how so? That is 100% true look at the charges and requirements to find him guilty. I copy/pasted that straight from the Jury's instructions!

The bullet hit an unopened watermelon ice tea and drained out.

I think probably just about every major city has an MLK Blvd.

Harlem has MKL Boulevard and Malcolm X Boulevard. They both intersect. On any given day there you can hear the N-word about 5,000 times, see hundreds of young men with their pants falling off their butts, and thousands of people who have EBT cards in their pockets.

You enjoy baiting people and I refuse to participate over rehashed crap over and over. I am done.

Seriously? I mean seriously? Quoting Omara....

Ugh, Yoda, if the jury believes Z was in the right regarding Self Defense, neither charge can be applied.

I was just putting it into perspective for you.

Once the jury determines he is innocent of 2nd degree, there is NO legal provision to charge for manslaughter.

How 125th street has changed! LOL

I'm not baiting shit, I'm just correctly pointing out it's possible (and IMHO quite likely) that he can be found innocent of Murder 2 but Guilty on Manslaughter. Jury throws out self defense claim, checks the requirements for Murder 2, ZImmerman meets the first 2 conditions but fails to meet the 3rd in their eyes due to the 'depraved mind' bit, so they have to move on to the next charge Manslaughter, in this example the jury already threw out self defense claim so they review the 2 conditions for Manslaughter and he meets both then whammo ZImmerman straight to the slammer

Yet I saw a photo of him and his "free masons," and they're showing gang signs with their hands.

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Last Edited by nutmeg on 07/13/2013 10:25 AM

The only way you could know this if Z told you himself. And the civilian on the police line did not instruct him of anything.

Yoda, you're fucking stupid! Seriously, I had to say. Really? There is NO law that restricts a person travel on public property with out a Judge ordering one. Did Zimmerman have a court order to stay away from Trayvon? Hell no and never needed one either.

I KNOW you know Zimmerman had the right to go anywhere in that area. He had EVERY LEGAL right to walk up to Zimmerman.

In fact, he was legally allowed to chase him all the way home and stand outside all day waiting.


Dude, it is NOT a crime to follow someone. If you are trying to point towards following like an X does with a restraining order.....THEY HAVE A RESTRAINING ORDER!!!!

Other wise, why even have restraining orders at all!

Like Father, Like Son

ok fine in your example where they believe he acted in Self Defense then yes I agree that there is no way he can be convicted of Manslaughter.


HOWEVER, in my example the Jury does NOT believe he acted in Self Defense and then it is very possible and likely that he would be convicted of Manslaughter as they don't have to decide that he had a 'depraved mind/mindset' blah blah blah the 3rd criteria for Murder 2

I hope he gets acquitted. Watching the twitter feeds...it is amazingly sad as to see the nation we live in...our education and social system at its best. This nation is fubarred!

Some tweets from twitter search on "Zimmerman riot" with the identity of the tweeters taken out:

"Zimmerman get away my potna in jail said they havin a riot"

"My sister bringing a knife with her to the theme park cus that Zimmerman riot shit is in Florida. Lmfaooooo"

"People gonna start a riot if Zimmerman walk away free!!!"

"Early waiting on the verdict!! If George Zimmerman gets off, I'm starting a mf-ing riot!No JK,but I will have to beat the f*** outta someone"

"just in case any of you feel the need to loot and riot if Zimmerman is found not guilty.. ya boy wear a size 13 shoe..XL Polo..38-40Pants"

"If he is not found guilty there will be a riot. No justice.. No peace.."

How do you think the state proved it's case?

Yeah but you left out the self-defense part, how convenient.. But you're just trolling between the lines as usual. Until you get banned from the thread and makes you feel like you won something.

did I say anywhere it was a crime to follow?!?

The depraved mind, ill will, etc......it all gets tossed out because he had the right to self defense.

If self defense isn't determined by the jury, it's 2nd degree. Manslaughter is a silly attempt that won't fly.

I think it's going to be a hung jury.

Some liberal media outlet was saying the jury wasn't very balanced because 5 of them are white and 1 is latino. That leaves 3 AAs by my count. Those AAs will hold out for 2nd-degree, and at least one white will hold out for not-guilty. Putting it all together we get hang.