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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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Merry Christmas, fatally flawed dam!
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dont chu be dissin' da dam yo!
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Merry Christmas, fatally flawed dam!
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dont chu be dissin' da dam yo!
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Orotards are the worst tards, they really are. Most of them are ignorant lazy white Ssi recipients living in trailer parks 1000 miles away trying to boost youtube chwnnel views to somehow make easymoney on top they welfare checks. Pathetic.

The dam is fine

On time

Under budget
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Unfinished. Over budget.

Kiewit made out like a bandit.

Substantial ongoing issues with the main spillway gate structure that can only be resolved by replacing it.

Ongoing seepage issues within the dam itself that have been ignored for decades.

Give it a rest, Juan.
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Orotards are the worst tards, they really are. Most of them are ignorant lazy white Ssi recipients living in trailer parks 1000 miles away trying to boost youtube chwnnel views to somehow make easymoney on top they welfare checks. Pathetic.

The dam is fine

On time

Under budget
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Unfinished. Over budget.

Kiewit made out like a bandit.

Substantial ongoing issues with the main spillway gate structure that can only be resolved by replacing it.

Ongoing seepage issues within the dam itself that have been ignored for decades.

Give it a rest, Juan.
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and improper construction.
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Orotards are the worst tards, they really are. Most of them are ignorant lazy white Ssi recipients living in trailer parks 1000 miles away trying to boost youtube chwnnel views to somehow make easymoney on top they welfare checks. Pathetic.

The dam is fine

On time

Under budget
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Lol. One more time:

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THIS SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF ME AND IT IS FROM THE END OF JULY OF 2017!.....
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It should.

There are interesting articles out there about the Mosul dam in Iraq. Never should have been built but Saddam insisted. It is build on permeable easily eroded rock (limestone or sandstones, I forget) and they walk it every day, inside and out, and grout the ever appearing leaks constantly. There is state of the art grouting equipment these days....its like a mouth full of rotting teeth getting fillings all the time, you just have to stay on top of it.

Scott Cahill said they could fix the Oroville leaks-probably- with a six month intensive grouting program. That does not fix the gates...he wanted to see a whole new gate structure built where the new spillway is...but at least it would fix the leaky hillside and the leaky dam. I don't know if they could try to prop up the sagging gate structure or not, or what to do about the broken anchor tendons. Doing nothing is not the answer though.

CA has done nothing. It is not ignorance about dams. DWR knows all this. It is deliberate.

The only conclusion is that they want the dam to fail. The wilderness agenda? Destruction of the food supply? Just plain old sociopathy? Does it matter? They want Oroville dam to fail. All the talk about hydropower clean energy and they won't fix the dam.

What's the forecast Crunch, you heard anything about the la Nina el Nino potentials? A dry winter or a string of pineapple expresses? Hope you get a dry one and the collapse of central valley holds off a little longer.

Happy New Year Orotards : )
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Scott Cahill said they could fix the Oroville leaks-probably- with a six month intensive grouting program. That does not fix the gates...he wanted to see a whole new gate structure built where the new spillway is...but at least it would fix the leaky hillside and the leaky dam. I don't know if they could try to prop up the sagging gate structure or not, or what to do about the broken anchor tendons. Doing nothing is not the answer though.

CA has done nothing. It is not ignorance about dams. DWR knows all this. It is deliberate.

The only conclusion is that they want the dam to fail. The wilderness agenda? Destruction of the food supply? Just plain old sociopathy? Does it matter? They want Oroville dam to fail. All the talk about hydropower clean energy and they won't fix the dam.

What's the forecast Crunch, you heard anything about the la Nina el Nino potentials? A dry winter or a string of pineapple expresses? Hope you get a dry one and the collapse of central valley holds off a little longer.

Happy New Year Orotards : )
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Back at ya!

The Oroville Dam main spillway gate structure is laterally racked. Out of square. Likely due to subsistence of the underlying soil/rock at the east end. This the same end of the structure where we saw the 'road gap', and the same side of the spillway where we see the recurring water permeation. This is why the gates leak and don't seal properly. Juan Blancornholio
has told everyone that the gates leak because the seals are 'metal on metal'. This is total BS. Each gate has rubber seals on all four edges. They were designed to seal, not leak.

DWR and contractors were able to square up the gate structure with used I-beams as temporary supports just prior to DWR's video of the first run of the new spillway. The gates that had been leaking for months were completely dry at the beginning of that video. @weiryone's excellent photos proved the temporary supports had been installed, and evidenced the severity of the bowing of the supports due to the tremendous stress being placed on them.

Later, when those supports were being removed, the gate structure reverted to it's skewed geometry resulting in the 'unintended' release of water from the gates WHILE WORKERS WERE IN THE SPILLWAY CHUTE. Twice in one day. Completely irresponsible by DWR, yet they try to deny it and cover it up. California Government deception in high gear.

Yes, it is deliberate deception of the public by CA DWR and those 'journalists' such as Juan Cornholio. Blacked out, redacted information in the dam reports, as they are crowing, 'the dam is fine' repeatedly.

The dam is not fine. the spillway gate structure is not fine. The gates are headed for a failure as we saw at Folsom Dam years ago. Same gate design. Same failing anchor tendons.

I have not heard about any future weather tendencies this season. It has been very dry so far, but Feb. - Mar. are the usual rainmakers.
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698.13

IT GOT AS LOW AS 697.98...

CAME BACK A TAD!
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Where is it all going? hiding
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Through the turbines to make green hydropower electricity that isn't from burning fossil fuels. Exactly what CA claims to want, but it is doing nothing at all to take care of the dam.

No grouting leaks, no fixing gates, no nothing. The dam is doomed.

Hope you get a dry winter guys. On the other hand, you could get a deluge come spring.
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YOU ARE TALKIN' DUDE!...THEY WILL HOLD EVERY DROP THAT THEY CAN IN THOSE 4 LAKES AND DAMS ABOVE IT! THAT IS KEY...IF THEY DUMP OR LET WATER OUT THEN, THEY ARE EITHER LET ONE OF THEM RUPTURE AND THEN THEY ALL CASCADE FAIL DOWN INTO ORO.
WHICH 'THEN' FAILS...SO....ANY WAY THEY WANT AND....EITHER WAY IT IS A 'TELL'..UH.
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Orotards are the worst tards, they really are. Most of them are ignorant lazy white Ssi recipients living in trailer parks 1000 miles away trying to boost youtube chwnnel views to somehow make easymoney on top they welfare checks. Pathetic.

The dam is fine

On time

Under budget
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Lol. One more time:

[link to alumni.berkeley.edu (secure)]
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THIS SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF ME AND IT IS FROM THE END OF JULY OF 2017!.....
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the scenario is just 'there' OOPZ..EITHER LET IT GET LOW AND HIT WITH A SUDDEN WEATHER CREATED FLOOD AND OR SNOW AND MELT AND RAIN OR...A BURST FROM ABOVE OR ..NOT..OR MULTI BURSTS?...FUCKIN DOMINOS JUST WAITIN ON ANY OF A NUMB-UH OF FACTORS AND OR CATALYSTS....SHIT. UH. SHIT. UH
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Exactly what I have been saying - they ain't that right up there.

Places like that, people are on some sort of welfare, or they work for the county. Anyone with brains and ambition gets the fuck out.
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698.11 dropping again..dhoom. uh. OOPZ CAPZZZZZ..!
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Really interesting post Crunch, thanks. I didn't know that about the temporary supports to make it look better for the cameras.

One of the creepiest things is the way Weiryone just disappeared. Such important, great photography. I wonder if they threatened him or his family. Maybe he "committed suicide". What a loss to the truth.
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697.72 DHOOM. GOING DOWN AGAIN!
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35% FULL

AND

57% OF HISTORICAL AVERAGE!

LOWER THAN ALL OF THEM BUT PINE FLAT ON THE BIG CHART!

DHOOM!...
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Really interesting post Crunch, thanks. I didn't know that about the temporary supports to make it look better for the cameras.

One of the creepiest things is the way Weiryone just disappeared. Such important, great photography. I wonder if they threatened him or his family. Maybe he "committed suicide". What a loss to the truth.
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Maybe not a complete loss.

Some people may have saved some of that stuff.


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697.57!
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Yeah, outflow is running 1500-1600 CFS. That's one turbine from the power plant. Remember, all of the power produced by the Hyatt power plant is used for the California Water Project operations. None of it is available for household use.

Rainfall is only about 5" for the season so far. Normally, we would be at 12-15" by now.

The next three months will tell us if CA DWR is going to be shitting their pants.
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697.57!
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Yeah, outflow is running 1500-1600 CFS. That's one turbine from the power plant. Remember, all of the power produced by the Hyatt power plant is used for the California Water Project operations. None of it is available for household use.

Rainfall is only about 5" for the season so far. Normally, we would be at 12-15" by now.

The next three months will tell us if CA DWR is going to be shitting their pants.
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NO WATER....MEANS...NO WATER...RIGHT? UH.
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NO WATER....MEANS...NO WATER...RIGHT? UH.
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Damned straight.

That's what keeps the DWR peeps from sleeping at night.

They need to sell that water downstream to So Cal. No Water = No Money. We have lots of water here in Nor Cal. The So Cal lefties like water, and will stop at nothing to get it.

Meanwhile, we live in the shadow of this fucking monstrosity.
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Hey where dam sensor data?

Oh no, Gavins. YOu too secret.

We get some good INSAR this month to see if backside slips. Not LGBY Gavin - for DAM! I work on, so maybe see name on paper.

Secret reveal: Look stable plenty good. Built like large Chinese woman. Hope no earthquake or rapid fill y empty and will stay same.

Please crazy Trump do not blow up TGD with nucle3ar footballs. Many family there. Farm already gone. Happy Chinese New Year to US.



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695.98!

35 % FULL..

55% OF HISTORICAL AVERAGE!

WAY LOWER THAN ALL OF THEM EXCEPT FOR PINE FLAT RES.!
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OTHER RES R LOW TOO..AND SOME ARE DELIB. BEING KEPT HIGH....THEY MAY KNOW THAT THERE IS NO MO H20 UH-COMIN'?!...
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695.97...WILL THIS HORROR NEV-UH END?...UH
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DHOOM..UH
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DHOOM..UH
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