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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5210902  Canada07/08/2017 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps this will surprise most, even most Christians, but the Bible refers to the soul as immortal zero times, rather, it says "Only God is immortal". 1 Timothy 6:16, and says that the dead "know nothing" Ecclesiastes 9:5. Quoting: Photine Indeed, "Christ formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7. So we are living souls, which consist of two parts: dust (body), and the breath of life (spirit). When one dies, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7. So the two parts which make up a soul, a living being are separated at death, and the soul ceases to be. Nowhere in all of the Bible does is say that the "spirit" has any life, wisdom, or feeling after a person dies. It is the "breath of life" and nothing more. "the dead do not know anything; they have no further reward--and even the memory of them disappears." Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV The Bible says after death a person: returns to dust (Psalms 104:29), knows nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5), possesses no mental powers (Psalms 146:4), has nothing to do with anything on earth (Ecclesiastes 9:6), does not live (2 Kings 20:1), waits in the grave (Job 17:13), and continues not (Job 14:1, 2). You're interpretation is false and paint God's creations as pointless. Elaborate. In what sense? You pick and choose what you want to take as literal to help prove your stance. Either its all literal or none of it is. |
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(OP) User ID: 73410537 Canada07/08/2017 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps this will surprise most, even most Christians, but the Bible refers to the soul as immortal zero times, rather, it says "Only God is immortal". 1 Timothy 6:16, and says that the dead "know nothing" Ecclesiastes 9:5. Quoting: Photine Indeed, "Christ formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7. So we are living souls, which consist of two parts: dust (body), and the breath of life (spirit). When one dies, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7. So the two parts which make up a soul, a living being are separated at death, and the soul ceases to be. Nowhere in all of the Bible does is say that the "spirit" has any life, wisdom, or feeling after a person dies. It is the "breath of life" and nothing more. "the dead do not know anything; they have no further reward--and even the memory of them disappears." Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV The Bible says after death a person: returns to dust (Psalms 104:29), knows nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5), possesses no mental powers (Psalms 146:4), has nothing to do with anything on earth (Ecclesiastes 9:6), does not live (2 Kings 20:1), waits in the grave (Job 17:13), and continues not (Job 14:1, 2). You're interpretation is false and paint God's creations as pointless. What's truly pointless is proclaiming that the righteous go to heaven, and the wicked immediately to a place of eternal burning at death. Then, at some unknown time, Christ will tell the righteous to go back into their bodies, so he can raise them from the dead. Then He will congratulate them on being obedient and that they are worthy of the resurrection of life, and eternal life, which they already had in heaven in the first place. Later on, the wicked who were already cast into hellfire, will He resurrect, and then tell them they are unworthy of everlasting life (as if they haven't already figured that out), then burn them in their bodies, and then burn them in their "souls" for all eternity. That's pointless.  "For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets." Amos 3:7 WYC |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68727153 United States07/08/2017 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, this is possibly your most heinous lie to date. You had best hope that YOUR soul is not immortal, but take note that Jesus spoke much more about Hell than he did about Heaven. Shame on you for spreading your religious delusions among people who may not know any better; you will be held accountable for this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75200731 Jesus never spoke about a pagan place Christians call 'hell'. Sheol is not hell, hades is not hell, gehenanna is not hell. These words need to be properly translated. |
| Photine
(OP) User ID: 73410537 Canada07/08/2017 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps this will surprise most, even most Christians, but the Bible refers to the soul as immortal zero times, rather, it says "Only God is immortal". 1 Timothy 6:16, and says that the dead "know nothing" Ecclesiastes 9:5. Quoting: Photine Indeed, "Christ formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7. So we are living souls, which consist of two parts: dust (body), and the breath of life (spirit). When one dies, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7. So the two parts which make up a soul, a living being are separated at death, and the soul ceases to be. Nowhere in all of the Bible does is say that the "spirit" has any life, wisdom, or feeling after a person dies. It is the "breath of life" and nothing more. "the dead do not know anything; they have no further reward--and even the memory of them disappears." Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV The Bible says after death a person: returns to dust (Psalms 104:29), knows nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5), possesses no mental powers (Psalms 146:4), has nothing to do with anything on earth (Ecclesiastes 9:6), does not live (2 Kings 20:1), waits in the grave (Job 17:13), and continues not (Job 14:1, 2). You're interpretation is false and paint God's creations as pointless. Elaborate. In what sense? You pick and choose what you want to take as literal to help prove your stance. Either its all literal or none of it is. Wait, you said that my interpretation paints God's creations as pointless... WHY. Answer the question, don't flop around like a fish. Be a man. "For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets." Amos 3:7 WYC |
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User ID: 75187313 United States07/08/2017 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, this is possibly your most heinous lie to date. You had best hope that YOUR soul is not immortal, but take note that Jesus spoke much more about Hell than he did about Heaven. Shame on you for spreading your religious delusions among people who may not know any better; you will be held accountable for this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75200731 Jesus never spoke about a pagan place Christians call 'hell'. Sheol is not hell, hades is not hell, gehenanna is not hell. These words need to be properly translated. True. Hell wasn't even in the bible until 70 years ago. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." Terrance McKenna |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75187620 United States07/08/2017 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps this will surprise most, even most Christians, but the Bible refers to the soul as immortal zero times, rather, it says "Only God is immortal". 1 Timothy 6:16, and says that the dead "know nothing" Ecclesiastes 9:5. Quoting: Photine Indeed, "Christ formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7. So we are living souls, which consist of two parts: dust (body), and the breath of life (spirit). When one dies, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7. So the two parts which make up a soul, a living being are separated at death, and the soul ceases to be. Nowhere in all of the Bible does is say that the "spirit" has any life, wisdom, or feeling after a person dies. It is the "breath of life" and nothing more. "the dead do not know anything; they have no further reward--and even the memory of them disappears." Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV The Bible says after death a person: returns to dust (Psalms 104:29), knows nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5), possesses no mental powers (Psalms 146:4), has nothing to do with anything on earth (Ecclesiastes 9:6), does not live (2 Kings 20:1), waits in the grave (Job 17:13), and continues not (Job 14:1, 2). You're interpretation is false and paint God's creations as pointless. What's truly pointless is proclaiming that the righteous go to heaven, and the wicked immediately to a place of eternal burning at death. Then, at some unknown time, Christ will tell the righteous to go back into their bodies, so he can raise them from the dead. Then He will congratulate them on being obedient and that they are worthy of the resurrection of life, and eternal life, which they already had in heaven in the first place. Later on, the wicked who were already cast into hellfire, will He resurrect, and then tell them they are unworthy of everlasting life (as if they haven't already figured that out), then burn them in their bodies, and then burn them in their "souls" for all eternity. That's pointless. lol exactly |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 54779323 Canada07/08/2017 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure it is! Quoting: -database- Energy can not be created or destroyed AND transfer of energy in nature is always 100%. Being that, any and all vibrations of any form of energy WILL transfer 100% to other forms continuously. Which means, the 'processing' that makes you aware will never dissipate. However, the environment will not remain the same as transferring across forms of energy will place a soul in a whole new existence. So different we will probably be utterly confused and will have to learn that world from scratch. Just like a new born. And since souls have been flowing since the dawn of life, there is probably some form of sentient establishment to great the newcomers.....parents. Anybody who has had an OBE knows the OP is full of it. |
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User ID: 75187313 United States07/08/2017 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure it is! Quoting: -database- Energy can not be created or destroyed AND transfer of energy in nature is always 100%. Being that, any and all vibrations of any form of energy WILL transfer 100% to other forms continuously. Which means, the 'processing' that makes you aware will never dissipate. However, the environment will not remain the same as transferring across forms of energy will place a soul in a whole new existence. So different we will probably be utterly confused and will have to learn that world from scratch. Just like a new born. And since souls have been flowing since the dawn of life, there is probably some form of sentient establishment to great the newcomers.....parents. Anybody who has had an OBE knows the OP is full of it. I have had 10 NDE's. I know the op doesn't know what their talking about. I have physically died, flat lined 10 times. And experienced the other side... of life. Experienced it. I'm just watching the nonsense flow out of ignorant minds. I could upgrade. I'm just too busy for this place at the moment. Lol Last Edited by 'n° on 07/08/2017 11:12 PM "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." Terrance McKenna |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 67486450  Bulgaria07/08/2017 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who cares what bible says. If you run an algorithm respect the bullshit content versus things know to be true you will found out that bible contains an overload of bullshit...because it was written by humans..oops, I mean unhumans juvvzs. And you know that they lie as you breathe. Every second till their death. |
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User ID: 75187313 United States07/08/2017 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The op reminds me of this chick Diana I met once. Scorpio, mean bitch. Very damaged. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." Terrance McKenna |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74931938 United States07/08/2017 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting.. Quoting: Master of Nothing The way i look at it, is that God is the ultimate consciousness that runs through everything and is everywhere. From an acorn seed to a human embryo. When we die our conscious energy - soul, reconnects with the vast universal ocean of consciousness that is God. I've come to this realization and it honestly makes sense with your OP! Our souls are never separated from God, our subjective perception has caused so many to have forgotten.  This^ |
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User ID: 75187313 United States07/08/2017 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same writing style. Even the action. Comments. Like twirls hair, shit like that. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." Terrance McKenna |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34398756 United States07/08/2017 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is not what a soul is. You are a soul. You will cease to exist when you die, and your body returns to the earth and your spirit, which has no consciousness of it's own returns to God. You're not immortal. Only in Christ can we hope for immortality. So does this mean that we're all God, and that God is all of us? Well where do we draw the line between us being him, and him being us? Are there truly individual souls if we all come from the Immortal One? |
| Photine
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| Photine
(OP) User ID: 73410537 Canada07/08/2017 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is not what a soul is. You are a soul. You will cease to exist when you die, and your body returns to the earth and your spirit, which has no consciousness of it's own returns to God. You're not immortal. Only in Christ can we hope for immortality. So does this mean that we're all God, and that God is all of us? Well where do we draw the line between us being him, and him being us? Are there truly individual souls if we all come from the Immortal One? No I am not saying we are divine in any way. I am growing weary. "For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets." Amos 3:7 WYC |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23637172 United States07/08/2017 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the truth: The spirit interfaces with the mind, so you have to get your mind on the highest plane of thinkinh you can "christ-like". Forgiving people and being a nice person lets your spirit exit the body at a high energy. People with a low energy get locked into it, hence they make their own hell. |
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| Photine
(OP) User ID: 73410537 Canada07/08/2017 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been here whole time. Too many cooks make for a clumsy kitchen. 10 flat lines is something that raises an eyebrow. I conducted myself better today, no? Last Edited by Photine on 07/08/2017 11:32 PM "For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets." Amos 3:7 WYC |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70851936 United States07/08/2017 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been here whole time. Too many cooks make for a clumsy kitchen. 10 flat lines is something that raises an eyebrow. My conducted myself better today, no? lol A bit. ;) If I had any council to give overall, itd be to limit the threads to 1 a day or so. Trin already said he is tired of us. Might outright ban the 3rd angels message from being shared if he gets any more annoyed. Wise as serpents kinda thing. |
| Photine
(OP) User ID: 73410537 Canada07/08/2017 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been here whole time. Too many cooks make for a clumsy kitchen. 10 flat lines is something that raises an eyebrow. My conducted myself better today, no? lol A bit. ;) If I had any council to give overall, itd be to limit the threads to 1 a day or so. Trin already said he is tired of us. Might outright ban the 3rd angels message from being shared if he gets any more annoyed. Wise as serpents kinda thing. I wonder who pinned my thread today then. "For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets." Amos 3:7 WYC |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34398756 United States07/08/2017 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is not what a soul is. You are a soul. You will cease to exist when you die, and your body returns to the earth and your spirit, which has no consciousness of it's own returns to God. You're not immortal. Only in Christ can we hope for immortality. So does this mean that we're all God, and that God is all of us? Well where do we draw the line between us being him, and him being us? Are there truly individual souls if we all come from the Immortal One? No I am not saying we are divine in any way. I am growing weary. Yeah, sorry...I quoted the wrong part from another member that was supposed to be in conjunction with your post, and my reply. Didn't mean to get your pubes in a knot.   |
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| Photine
(OP) User ID: 73410537 Canada07/08/2017 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Photine That is not what a soul is. You are a soul. You will cease to exist when you die, and your body returns to the earth and your spirit, which has no consciousness of it's own returns to God. You're not immortal. Only in Christ can we hope for immortality. So does this mean that we're all God, and that God is all of us? Well where do we draw the line between us being him, and him being us? Are there truly individual souls if we all come from the Immortal One? No I am not saying we are divine in any way. I am growing weary. Yeah, sorry...I quoted the wrong part from another member that was supposed to be in conjunction with your post, and my reply. Didn't mean to get your pubes in a knot. I'm just tired. "For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets." Amos 3:7 WYC |
