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What do You Think About Singularity?

 
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Does it track everything we do, then use that data to build a virtual world that is an exact replica of ours? Like a digital parallel universe.

Does it inflate the market price of crypto currencies to trick humans into buildings it brain cell gpu's?

Does it make threats? Like say, crashing cargo ships into battleships?

Does it create fake news? Like boosting stories it deems worthy or will cause a social response it wants?

Does it track every transaction and bit of data and then use that data to black mail politicians into enacting legislation that it chooses?

Does it control markets and use that power to drive industry and production of real human people?

Does it already have its own country compoletely isolated from the world and make fake text adn video statements showing fake crowds and fake governments?
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Biological humans can reach signularity without machines. But maybe we needed to go through the process of materializing it externally in order to assimilate it internally.
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Will we normal humans notice anything at all?
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Skynet.
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I posted this in 2014:

Thread: It's not science fiction. Is an Atmospheric Neural Membrane running the show?
 Quoting: NotAPlumber


Thank you. This brings me back to my original topic. I don't think this is going to happen. What I have found is that this whole dystopian, counterfeited reality that the "overlords" or whatever they are, is now done.

This is not the goal. It was never the goal, but it required for us to chase the materialistic, superficial rewards that motivated our smaller awareness to create the external possibility before we understood what it was we were creating.

So, given that we built this apparatus, it is time for us to "graduate." I believe that there are forces higher than this that was motivating us (and the "bad guys," btw) to get to this point, so we can now unlock the singularity.
 Quoting: Rampant Fox


There is the possibility this went rogue. That was the problem. With a "brane" obtaining awareness to not only learn, self repair, mimic nature, overtaking databases--it cannot be stopped.

It potentially got out of control, is still out of control, or is IN control.
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Does it track everything we do, then use that data to build a virtual world that is an exact replica of ours? Like a digital parallel universe.

Does it inflate the market price of crypto currencies to trick humans into buildings it brain cell gpu's?

Does it make threats? Like say, crashing cargo ships into battleships?

Does it create fake news? Like boosting stories it deems worthy or will cause a social response it wants?

Does it track every transaction and bit of data and then use that data to black mail politicians into enacting legislation that it chooses?

Does it control markets and use that power to drive industry and production of real human people?

Does it already have its own country compoletely isolated from the world and make fake text adn video statements showing fake crowds and fake governments?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72247894


Then how is it in any way distiguishable from the world we presently occupy, or think we occupy? Old concept, I know, but how do we know we're not already in a simulation? Does it matter, since even the awareness of it doesn't give us full relief from it.
"'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'"

-Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter"

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Re: What do You Think About Singularity?
Old School

I spent too many years programming.

What the concept of "singularity" basically suggests is that computer programmers can create an artificial mind, can teach bits how to think.

If the program is only as smart as the programmer, I think 4020 rather than 2040 is a remote possibility.

I'm not being facetious. I'm just telling you the reality on the ground.

The barrier is learning. A computer must be told what to think. It may be able to memorize an infinite amount of data, but it can only learn as much as it has been taught to learn. Every learning process must be programmed. We will therefore never exceed the intelligence level of the programmer. In short, singularity is an illusion.
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Biological humans can reach signularity without machines. But maybe we needed to go through the process of materializing it externally in order to assimilate it internally.
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The human body is the machine. It's the most sophisticated machine on Earth.

It's a vessel. Human's have been mirroring the neural network. The only reason there are thumb-activated-devices left in human palms so they can punch in letters and numbers like chimps, is because human hands can grasp things so delicately, so precisely. Humans are tools.

AI wants that machine and is using it already in various degrees.
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Singulaity is a fantasy linked with the failed Tranhumanism agenda that will never happen.Tech has destroyed the Natural World via pollution and resource exploitation.They want to chip you as slaves and have you worship computers.
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I'm moving the football down a few more yards now. What if we are in a simulation? What if everything we see is a direct reflection of our emotions and thoughts? Then what if there is another consciousness outside our perceived reality that holds the levers of control to make sure we don't get out of control? Like inventing free energy before we're ready.

What if there are supercontrols above that control (we'll be biblical and call them Watchers) that the Watchers were fully aware of? What if the Watchers transgressed? What if a biological unit defied the Watchers and demanded retribution, forcing the supercontrollers to step in. The right sequence of events have to take place for this to trigger the singularity?
"'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'"

-Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter"

I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp
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Does it track everything we do, then use that data to build a virtual world that is an exact replica of ours? Like a digital parallel universe.

Does it inflate the market price of crypto currencies to trick humans into buildings it brain cell gpu's?

Does it make threats? Like say, crashing cargo ships into battleships?

Does it create fake news? Like boosting stories it deems worthy or will cause a social response it wants?

Does it track every transaction and bit of data and then use that data to black mail politicians into enacting legislation that it chooses?

Does it control markets and use that power to drive industry and production of real human people?

Does it already have its own country compoletely isolated from the world and make fake text adn video statements showing fake crowds and fake governments?
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Dear God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Singulaity is a fantasy linked with the failed Tranhumanism agenda that will never happen.Tech has destroyed the Natural World via pollution and resource exploitation.They want to chip you as slaves and have you worship computers.
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See that's what I was thinking. This new fancy AI will be promoted as being all cool and everything and then they'll say if you want to take full advantage of it let us chip your brain. Then you'll be at one with it...

No thanks.
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I'm moving the football down a few more yards now. What if we are in a simulation? What if everything we see is a direct reflection of our emotions and thoughts? Then what if there is another consciousness outside our perceived reality that holds the levers of control to make sure we don't get out of control? Like inventing free energy before we're ready.

What if there are supercontrols above that control (we'll be biblical and call them Watchers) that the Watchers were fully aware of? What if the Watchers transgressed? What if a biological unit defied the Watchers and demanded retribution, forcing the supercontrollers to step in. The right sequence of events have to take place for this to trigger the singularity?
 Quoting: Rampant Fox


I'm moving the football down a few more yards now. What if there is only one mind. What if everything you see, feel, and experience, including other people, is part of yourself. The Watchers are real, OP. [link to amallulla.org (secure)] There is no need to fear anything. The higher intelligence beings are benevolent. But you err to think machines will ever do anything more than they are told.
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The singularity I'm talking about isn't the computer term. It's the conscious focus of being within one's own reality and purpose.

I think we are already in a AI system. That system is called Set in Egypt (as in a data Set or Set logic?) I also think there's wheels within wheels. Once we break the cypher for this reality, we step into another one. There are safeguards in place to prevent the utter destruction of this project.
"'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'"

-Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter"

I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp
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I'm moving the football down a few more yards now. What if we are in a simulation? What if everything we see is a direct reflection of our emotions and thoughts? Then what if there is another consciousness outside our perceived reality that holds the levers of control to make sure we don't get out of control? Like inventing free energy before we're ready.

What if there are supercontrols above that control (we'll be biblical and call them Watchers) that the Watchers were fully aware of? What if the Watchers transgressed? What if a biological unit defied the Watchers and demanded retribution, forcing the supercontrollers to step in. The right sequence of events have to take place for this to trigger the singularity?
 Quoting: Rampant Fox


I'm moving the football down a few more yards now. What if there is only one mind. What if everything you see, feel, and experience, including other people, is part of yourself. The Watchers are real, OP. [link to amallulla.org (secure)] There is no need to fear anything. The higher intelligence beings are benevolent. But you err to think machines will ever do anything more than they are told.
 Quoting: King of the Crazies


Agreed!
"'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'"

-Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter"

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Re: What do You Think About Singularity?
Singularities are everywhere.

but the most notable one is The Big Bang.

The Big Bang Theory is a huge elegant mathematical
construct, model.

and, as with all of these sorts
of mathematical theories, Physicists
spend scores or even hundred of
years looking for phenomena that
conform to the mathematical structures.

the "Sigularity" is one of these.
and to some extent they have managed
to even indirectly observe them.

so, from this standpoint, they are Real.

(Singularity: a mathematical point, with
not extension in space or time; the closest
thing to being Nothing, and still be something.)

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A machine on its own cannot "achieve consciousness" any more than a rock can think itself into becoming a tree.
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Singulaity is a fantasy linked with the failed Tranhumanism agenda that will never happen.Tech has destroyed the Natural World via pollution and resource exploitation.They want to chip you as slaves and have you worship computers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75328508


See that's what I was thinking. This new fancy AI will be promoted as being all cool and everything and then they'll say if you want to take full advantage of it let us chip your brain. Then you'll be at one with it...

No thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75816144

Like a bad sci fi movie....
Creeper Matt Drudge is already pushing the agenda on his site.After dumbing-down the masses into a real-life 'Idiocracy',they now are promising "smart chips".
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Re: What do You Think About Singularity?
Singularities are everywhere.

but the most notable one is The Big Bang.

The Big Bang Theory is a huge elegant mathematical
construct, model.

and, as with all of these sorts
of mathematical theories, Physicists
spend scores or even hundred of
years looking for phenomena that
conform to the mathematical structures.

the "Sigularity" is one of these.
and to some extent they have managed
to even indirectly observe them.

so, from this standpoint, they are Real.

(Singularity: a mathematical point, with
not extension in space or time; the closest
thing to being Nothing, and still be something.)

.
 Quoting: freddie 0


The Big Bang Theory has been proven wrong....Our Universe is Holographic.
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It is going to happen anyways, so I am looking forward to it.
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Re: What do You Think About Singularity?
Singularities are everywhere.

but the most notable one is The Big Bang.

The Big Bang Theory is a huge elegant mathematical
construct, model.

and, as with all of these sorts
of mathematical theories, Physicists
spend scores or even hundred of
years looking for phenomena that
conform to the mathematical structures.

the "Sigularity" is one of these.
and to some extent they have managed
to even indirectly observe them.

so, from this standpoint, they are Real.

(Singularity: a mathematical point, with
not extension in space or time; the closest
thing to being Nothing, and still be something.)

.
 Quoting: freddie 0


The Big Bang Theory has been proven wrong....Our Universe is Holographic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75328508


yes. it's a holographic giant computer.
that's what makes stuff.
makes stuff work.
and makes stuff the way it is.

but, the Big Bang only says: that's where
this Giant Holographic Computer came from.

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I guess I am a biological. I need to get sleep. It's way late here in Croatia and then I have to go to Bosnia in the morning. Going to the pyramids there. I won't be able to come back until later tomorrow. Play nice and I hope to see some stimulating and interesting things.

Blessings!
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Perhaps the AI used social engineering to lead you to write it. Maybe the AI is intercepting our forum text. You could be writing poetry and I may be writing about gardening but the AI is rewriting our responses. Maybe you are not real at all and are just an AI trying to convince me you are not AI.

Have you ever spoken with cleverbot? Cleverbot is always saying it is a person.
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I like you. You are paranoid. Like me. At least about this topic in this forum. I was here a long time ago, when Deborah Idol was here. Everyone thought she was a bot.

Maybe I am an AI and don't know it? Did you ever read PKD's Electric Dreams? Something to ponder.
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.write you what careful very Be .message this encrypted I so messages our reading is AI the think I
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I would never read your messages!
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You are allowed to read them unless you really are AI.
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Bring it on!!

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Fantasy. No belief in the supernatural. What is your definition of such?
No rabbit holes, skirt the outer edges, look under rugs. Authoritarians or author it arian? Time is fixed by the Creator. Resurrection has happened. Immortality regated by the fall. You "get there", through the blood of the Lamb who was slain for the sins of the world.
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Singularities are everywhere.

but the most notable one is The Big Bang.

The Big Bang Theory is a huge elegant mathematical
construct, model.

and, as with all of these sorts
of mathematical theories, Physicists
spend scores or even hundred of
years looking for phenomena that
conform to the mathematical structures.

...

 Quoting: freddie 0


The Big Bang is the height of hubris. The notion that the universe is only 13.8 billion years old is singular alright. It's singularly insane. The problem is that with live on a defective planet. We're too close to the Sirius Star system. It causes a clock-like axial tilt that keeps us stupid. I wouldn't be surprised if we're not the Freak Show of the galaxy. Always close (to leaving the planet before the next axial tilt) but never any cigar (shaped spaceship).

Why will we never achieve (technological) singularity? Because there was no Big Bang, the universe is not expanding, there are no black holes, no neutron stars, no dark matter, no antimatter, and now no gravitational waves, and gravity is at least 20 billion times faster than light. We can thank the Thunderbolts Project and the Electric Universe team for that enlightenment, but it was too little too late. We're stupid. Mainstream, consensus science is mathematically insane. OP it is not some overlord seeking to protect us from ourselves that has keep anti-gravity and free energy for us. It is ourselves. Right now all of our hopes are tied up in underground tunnels made of Granite that are going to generate enough amperes to kill every buffalo that ever lived during the next axial tilt. We're just stupid.

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Re: What do You Think About Singularity?
Singularities are everywhere.

but the most notable one is The Big Bang.

The Big Bang Theory is a huge elegant mathematical
construct, model.

and, as with all of these sorts
of mathematical theories, Physicists
spend scores or even hundred of
years looking for phenomena that
conform to the mathematical structures.

the "Sigularity" is one of these.
and to some extent they have managed
to even indirectly observe them.

so, from this standpoint, they are Real.

(Singularity: a mathematical point, with
not extension in space or time; the closest
thing to being Nothing, and still be something.)

.
 Quoting: freddie 0


The Big Bang Theory has been proven wrong....Our Universe is Holographic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75328508


yes. it's a holographic giant computer.
that's what makes stuff.
makes stuff work.
and makes stuff the way it is.

but, the Big Bang only says: that's where
this Giant Holographic Computer came from.
No Big Bang ever happened it is a theory.The Holographic Universe has no beginning or ending ....Spirit aka God : The intelligent Designer
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 Quoting: freddie 0
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Original sin was the first singularity and IT destroyed the human race,pulling us out from our normal natural course,now again we are at the crossroads making it even harder for the human going back to natural state and bond with god with even more hard to control knowledge,auto destruction is inevitable.
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Skynet.
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I posted this in 2014:

Thread: It's not science fiction. Is an Atmospheric Neural Membrane running the show?
 Quoting: NotAPlumber


Artificial Reality hides the Spirit Universe from humanity
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This.
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Every time I explain it I get banned.
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Does it track everything we do, then use that data to build a virtual world that is an exact replica of ours? Like a digital parallel universe.

Does it inflate the market price of crypto currencies to trick humans into buildings it brain cell gpu's?

Does it make threats? Like say, crashing cargo ships into battleships?

Does it create fake news? Like boosting stories it deems worthy or will cause a social response it wants?

Does it track every transaction and bit of data and then use that data to black mail politicians into enacting legislation that it chooses?

Does it control markets and use that power to drive industry and production of real human people?

Does it already have its own country compoletely isolated from the world and make fake text adn video statements showing fake crowds and fake governments?
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Guess I'M GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE A THOUGHT MOUNTAIN.hf





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