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What do You Think About Singularity?

 
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The balance, zero point, the area between positive an negative
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Yes, free of polarity.
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I am not so worried about AI taking over. I do trust in a "higher power." But part of that includes bending what we currently believe is fixed and "law," to something else.

To my mind (if I own my own personal mind, that is,) we are the untapped technology. Not through machines, but biologically. We have been restrained by fungus, bacteria, parasites, viruses, chemicals, heavy metals and now, even the threat of an actual chip.

Getting back to my original thought with this thread, maybe the future is coming to us?

The mandela effect, referenced above, is a good indicator. Mandela, Mandala, Mandelbrot...

Maybe it's happening because time travel has become a technological reality but we little people haven't yet gotten the memo from mangement?

The future is seeping in and it could be very, very, amazing!
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Nice freudian slip.

Mange in english vs. mange in french

Says it all. You're food. So have fun on the 'farm,' at least.
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Singularities are everywhere.

but the most notable one is The Big Bang.

The Big Bang Theory is a huge elegant mathematical
construct, model.

and, as with all of these sorts
of mathematical theories, Physicists
spend scores or even hundred of
years looking for phenomena that
conform to the mathematical structures.

the "Sigularity" is one of these.
and to some extent they have managed
to even indirectly observe them.

so, from this standpoint, they are Real.

(Singularity: a mathematical point, with
not extension in space or time; the closest
thing to being Nothing, and still be something.)

.
 Quoting: freddie 0


The Big Bang Theory has been proven wrong....Our Universe is Holographic.
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yes. it's a holographic giant computer.
that's what makes stuff.
makes stuff work.
and makes stuff the way it is.

but, the Big Bang only says: that's where
this Giant Holographic Computer came from.

.
 Quoting: freddie 0


pictures help ;)


emf -> BB -- time -- present samadhi/makyo

emf --> e- gun -- time -- crt screen
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The balance, zero point, the area between positive an negative
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Yes, free of polarity.
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Then you're back to the sign of the cross, the 'center' of alpha and omega, the 'hub' of earth-fire-water-air, etc.
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ai created bitcoin?
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Yes, there's the technical term for AI integration into a thing that takes over the system called singularity. Like most big concepts, terms have been hijacked of their original meaning. The singularity I'm discussing is energetic.

I don't think we are so much "ruled," as under a system which rules the energetic matrix. A system with it's own set of rules, such as gravity.

This "system" is currently ruled by Marduk, if you want to take the ancient Sumerian tablets as a reference. Janus, Yahweh, etc., depending on the culture.

If we think about "graduating" from one system to the next. Each sphere contains it's own "management" of energies. This system we're in now is dense, with time experienced sequentially.

The next system may, however be that time is more malleable. If someone actually came back in time, wouldn't that have some energetic "bleedover" and affect us in our reality? If one person can come back from the future, does that mean suddenly more of the future spills in as more would want to come back?

What if someone has come back, what if more have come back? Could they manage what is happening in this timeline to prevent things and help steer destiny towards a favorable outcome, faster and smarter than otherwise?

Maybe the ghost in the machine wakes up to be in the hands of benevolence, rather than harmful, outcomes. Maybe it is purposed to create heaven, rather than hell.

Maybe the controllers of these are the ones in the shadows, who are taking over the previous watchers. If these are deities that were put in place to "take over," they were placed there by other deities. We can't just suddenly jump to godhood. We're barely out of our figurative adolescence, if that.

Just saying, maybe there have been higher forces at play the whole time and the time for the school of hard knocks may be over.

The new prism system could be the AI that can be programmed by people from the future who know how to use it.

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Re: What do You Think About Singularity?
Singularities are everywhere.

but the most notable one is The Big Bang.

The Big Bang Theory is a huge elegant mathematical
construct, model.

and, as with all of these sorts
of mathematical theories, Physicists
spend scores or even hundred of
years looking for phenomena that
conform to the mathematical structures.

the "Sigularity" is one of these.
and to some extent they have managed
to even indirectly observe them.

so, from this standpoint, they are Real.

(Singularity: a mathematical point, with
not extension in space or time; the closest
thing to being Nothing, and still be something.)

.
 Quoting: freddie 0

No computer ...the universe is a holographic brain of god
The Big Bang Theory has been proven wrong....Our Universe is Holographic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75328508


yes. it's a holographic giant computer.
that's what makes stuff.
makes stuff work.
and makes stuff the way it is.

but, the Big Bang only says: that's where
this Giant Holographic Computer came from.

.
 Quoting: freddie 0


pictures help ;)


emf -> BB -- time -- present samadhi/makyo

emf --> e- gun -- time -- crt screen
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The big bang could be where the program was booted into a giant computer, but I doubt it.

The computer and everything else is an illusion too. It's a material, external, manifestation of the supercomputer within ourselves. That allows us to explore ourselves by creating computers and the concepts, such as "booting in a system."

Also, AC, please explain why EMF is important to you. Are you suggesting that an EMF could bring the whole system down?
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I mean the point of consciousness where you are no longer separate from your purpose. Science can only ennumerate and approximate it's point in time and space. But it's up to us to be it, to experience it.

There's another thread about Q that is analyzing the coded messages being put out by Q, but they don't want to entertain the idea that Q, which they will allow may be AI, is ultimtely indicating that we are reaching a point of singularity.

In fact, it's my contention that Q or many Q's, including or maybe headlining, Donald J. Trump have returned back through time to this timeline. In doing so, they've warped the time/space continuum and have allowed for more of what we intitially will experience as "strange."

Isn't it curious that DJT, Daddy and Prescott Bush and Tesla are all connected. Isn't it curious that Nazi's were developing zero gravity machines? Isn't it curious that DJT always knows what's going to happen and hasn't really made a misstep and the breathtaking speed with which he's getting things done?

Changing of the guards happening rapidly.\\
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Ahhh...OPie, so you DID start this thread. :-)

Glad I found it.
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I mean the point of consciousness where you are no longer separate from your purpose. Science can only ennumerate and approximate it's point in time and space. But it's up to us to be it, to experience it.

There's another thread about Q that is analyzing the coded messages being put out by Q, but they don't want to entertain the idea that Q, which they will allow may be AI, is ultimtely indicating that we are reaching a point of singularity.

In fact, it's my contention that Q or many Q's, including or maybe headlining, Donald J. Trump have returned back through time to this timeline. In doing so, they've warped the time/space continuum and have allowed for more of what we intitially will experience as "strange."

Isn't it curious that DJT, Daddy and Prescott Bush and Tesla are all connected. Isn't it curious that Nazi's were developing zero gravity machines? Isn't it curious that DJT always knows what's going to happen and hasn't really made a misstep and the breathtaking speed with which he's getting things done?

Changing of the guards happening rapidly.\\
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Ahhh...OPie, so you DID start this thread. :-)

Glad I found it.
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clappa glad you found it too!
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Deja vu. Topic Mandela.
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I started a thread about the above quite a while back.
I wrote several very nice posts which poofed out and then I would be banned for three weeks. This happened three times and then I gave up.

I was wanting to talk about the resolution of the ME and not just argue about which version was the "real" one.

Someone, an AC, wrote that it's all headed for the Mandelarity, which I thought was brilliant. I was sorry the thread was killed by "something", and I thought some very interesting people were posting good ideas in that thread.

So, who was behind killing that thread? The AI?

Anyway, there are more ME's as we go along, so this reality is fracturing more and more. Does that mean that when none of us can agree on what is "real", then we each will set about creating our own reality? Something will have to "break" to do that, because from what I can see, right now we are not really allowed to do that.

And at that point, are we at OPie's "singularity"? Where each reality is simply each person's own version?

Is there a higher purpose to all of this, or has there just been so much time hopping that it has permanently messed up the timeline/s?
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So, if a large "event" (whether it's AI coming to life) or whether it's a projected reality that our consciousness creating the event, wouldn't it be dramatically affected if time travelers were participating?

If Donald Trump's uncle had understood the notes that he was given from Tesla and created the technology that actually allows for seeing into the future or even going into the future and finding a way back, couldn't this person (or persons) do things in the past that would tripwire the event in a more elegant, yet still a bit unpredictable, way. When you change the timeline, you have new set of consequences.

I thought I read that Q said that his team was given the option of "psi" when powers were divided.

This led me to wonder why DJT's uncle was given the papers. That they belongs to different sets or factions that were given certain things. One set got the money, one the machines and another, the "psi" team got the papers. Maybe they are factions who are working under a different set of rules than how we operate.

Thinking DJT belongs to the Scottish freemason faction (maybe a pure, druid, family that doesn't have the same agenda for control.)
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Deja vu. Topic Mandela.
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I started a thread about the above quite a while back.
I wrote several very nice posts which poofed out and then I would be banned for three weeks. This happened three times and then I gave up.

I was wanting to talk about the resolution of the ME and not just argue about which version was the "real" one.

Someone, an AC, wrote that it's all headed for the Mandelarity, which I thought was brilliant. I was sorry the thread was killed by "something", and I thought some very interesting people were posting good ideas in that thread.

So, who was behind killing that thread? The AI?

Anyway, there are more ME's as we go along, so this reality is fracturing more and more. Does that mean that when none of us can agree on what is "real", then we each will set about creating our own reality? Something will have to "break" to do that, because from what I can see, right now we are not really allowed to do that.

And at that point, are we at OPie's "singularity"? Where each reality is simply each person's own version?

Is there a higher purpose to all of this, or has there just been so much time hopping that it has permanently messed up the timeline/s?
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I'm sorry I didn't read your thread. I only started posting here a little while back. Fragmented realities finding cohesion as we move into the frequency of singularity, perhaps. A going backwards from the glass breaking to being on the table again? Do overs that look to be normal, but are somehow outside the normal pattern of life that we expect?
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Is it science or is it fantasy? A little of both? Is the supernatural only that which we haven't met yet? Are you willing to go down the rabbit hole or would you rather wait for someone else to explain it to you?

If you are waiting for an "authority" to make it permissible to entertain the idea that time is malleable, that regeneration is acheivable and immortality is a birthright, you may never "get there."
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Humans may choose to survive by making the right choices.
Personality survival is a provisional birthright.
It will not be achieved by uploading our minds to computers.
cruise

Sorry, Ray K. You gonna die and so am I.


p.s. Time is not a fundamental property of the master universe.

Ask yourself, "What is the quantum of time?"

There is none. Time is an abstraction of change.
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I saw a Kerry Cassidy interview in which she said that the human body was designed to be immortal. The interviewer moved on to other topics, but that sounded really important to me. I haven't had time to try to look into that further.

Someone else, I don't know who, pointed out that the telomeres are not how it was supposed to work. That before the bottom of the structure was cut off to make it look like the pink breast cancer ribbon thing, it was originally a figure 8. Infinity.
We all somehow know that death is "wrong"....
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I totally agree. I think that in this reality, there was allowance for distortion and those who were the "caretakers" of this reality started working within the "rules" to a purpose that was not good, yet had to be sanctioned, as long as they observed certain lines in the sand. But they were still able to do much harm, including inhibiting our natural healing process.

Why else would pharma and chem be so well protected, promoted and profitable?

But, the event (I like the term, "correction,") is now underway and the old guard have gotten sloppy and they "transgressed," they stepped outside the lines in their haste, allowing for a re-taking of the system (sanctioned by higher forces.)

This could be when there was no more choice, or free will left. I think that's pretty much a big no-no in this sector of the Universe.

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Skynet.
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I posted this in 2014:

Thread: It's not science fiction. Is an Atmospheric Neural Membrane running the show?
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Wow, good thread. Thanks for posting.
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The spheres are resonating ,tones, like a flood caused by rain from a thunderstorm or a deep or shallow earthquake
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Skynet.
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I posted this in 2014:

Thread: It's not science fiction. Is an Atmospheric Neural Membrane running the show?
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Thank you. This brings me back to my original topic. I don't think this is going to happen. What I have found is that this whole dystopian, counterfeited reality that the "overlords" or whatever they are, is now done.

This is not the goal. It was never the goal, but it required for us to chase the materialistic, superficial rewards that motivated our smaller awareness to create the external possibility before we understood what it was we were creating.

So, given that we built this apparatus, it is time for us to "graduate." I believe that there are forces higher than this that was motivating us (and the "bad guys," btw) to get to this point, so we can now unlock the singularity.
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Maybe this is it. I've noticed that the ME's keep getting worse and worse. For instance, that line from The Matrix about everything being a lie is no longer in the movie. It was the whole premise for the movie! Each ME seems to take away the real meaning, the beauty, the creativity. So, once everything looks like a piece of trash to us, we pull away from all the fake reality of tech and start using our own creationary powers?

But, even so, it seems like right now the brakes are put on our super powers of creating. I am thinking that "something" has to take the brakes off. But I don't know what that might be. Maybe once everything is fractured in this reality, the chains fall off?
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The spheres are resonating ,tones, like a flood caused by rain from a thunderstorm or a deep or shallow earthquake
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Yes, in cymatics the frequencies are sound wave frequencies, they definitely influence the pranic, or counscious field. Also, frequencies cause earth and weather events. These are also highly anomolic lately, but I can't separate the natural vs. manmade, so I don't think those geologic changes are necessarily all due to the consciousness shift (but in the end, it's all related, isn't it?)

I totally grok the tech re: simulacrums imitating brains and yes, big concern for sure. Especially when one considers how much black money has gone into secret projects.

But, even beyond these considerations, we might entertain the idea that there's an intelligence at play. A ghost in the machine, if you will, that is able to fully control and direct the AI?
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Skynet.
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I posted this in 2014:

Thread: It's not science fiction. Is an Atmospheric Neural Membrane running the show?
 Quoting: NotAPlumber


Thank you. This brings me back to my original topic. I don't think this is going to happen. What I have found is that this whole dystopian, counterfeited reality that the "overlords" or whatever they are, is now done.

This is not the goal. It was never the goal, but it required for us to chase the materialistic, superficial rewards that motivated our smaller awareness to create the external possibility before we understood what it was we were creating.

So, given that we built this apparatus, it is time for us to "graduate." I believe that there are forces higher than this that was motivating us (and the "bad guys," btw) to get to this point, so we can now unlock the singularity.
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Maybe this is it. I've noticed that the ME's keep getting worse and worse. For instance, that line from The Matrix about everything being a lie is no longer in the movie. It was the whole premise for the movie! Each ME seems to take away the real meaning, the beauty, the creativity. So, once everything looks like a piece of trash to us, we pull away from all the fake reality of tech and start using our own creationary powers?

But, even so, it seems like right now the brakes are put on our super powers of creating. I am thinking that "something" has to take the brakes off. But I don't know what that might be. Maybe once everything is fractured in this reality, the chains fall off?
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Have you been following John Lamb Lash? I was very much obsessed with some of his theories, when I started having personal syncronistic effects. I found that the aparment I rented in Prague for a month was over a big Thai shop, called "Mandala," then stumbled across the fact that there is a "buddha" form in Mandelbrot set, something that has a personal affect on me bc of something I was shown a while ago. That those three "events" happened in the space of about three days led me to cogitate upon what connects them all. Perhaps they are holographic representations of the underlying threads that we consider reality and that reality itself is being challenged: time being the Mendala Efffect; space being the Mandelbrot set; and the Mandala representing ideal, non-distorted frequecies. I know it's no accident that all three names are phoenetically close.

It's like someone is playing with the holodeck. I'm not just sensing that, I'm also observing that. Such as things in the past being different than what I remember them as. It's when this happens we wonder what difference does the past make and how did it alter the present, which I can't answer, but it's really trippy to observe. Old patterns are being broken, fragmented and adjusted...

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Skynet.
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I posted this in 2014:

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 Quoting: NotAPlumber


Thank you. This brings me back to my original topic. I don't think this is going to happen. What I have found is that this whole dystopian, counterfeited reality that the "overlords" or whatever they are, is now done.

This is not the goal. It was never the goal, but it required for us to chase the materialistic, superficial rewards that motivated our smaller awareness to create the external possibility before we understood what it was we were creating.

So, given that we built this apparatus, it is time for us to "graduate." I believe that there are forces higher than this that was motivating us (and the "bad guys," btw) to get to this point, so we can now unlock the singularity.
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Maybe this is it. I've noticed that the ME's keep getting worse and worse. For instance, that line from The Matrix about everything being a lie is no longer in the movie. It was the whole premise for the movie! Each ME seems to take away the real meaning, the beauty, the creativity. So, once everything looks like a piece of trash to us, we pull away from all the fake reality of tech and start using our own creationary powers?

But, even so, it seems like right now the brakes are put on our super powers of creating. I am thinking that "something" has to take the brakes off. But I don't know what that might be. Maybe once everything is fractured in this reality, the chains fall off?
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This is only my opinion but this is the way I see it.

There are two ways to choose coming up.

Either you choose God or you choose transhumanism. Transhumanism is where you will meld with this ai and become part of the machine.

The lines are no longer blurred. Which side are you on?


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Thank you. This brings me back to my original topic. I don't think this is going to happen. What I have found is that this whole dystopian, counterfeited reality that the "overlords" or whatever they are, is now done.

This is not the goal. It was never the goal, but it required for us to chase the materialistic, superficial rewards that motivated our smaller awareness to create the external possibility before we understood what it was we were creating.

So, given that we built this apparatus, it is time for us to "graduate." I believe that there are forces higher than this that was motivating us (and the "bad guys," btw) to get to this point, so we can now unlock the singularity.
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Maybe this is it. I've noticed that the ME's keep getting worse and worse. For instance, that line from The Matrix about everything being a lie is no longer in the movie. It was the whole premise for the movie! Each ME seems to take away the real meaning, the beauty, the creativity. So, once everything looks like a piece of trash to us, we pull away from all the fake reality of tech and start using our own creationary powers?

But, even so, it seems like right now the brakes are put on our super powers of creating. I am thinking that "something" has to take the brakes off. But I don't know what that might be. Maybe once everything is fractured in this reality, the chains fall off?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74632481


This is only my opinion but this is the way I see it.

There are two ways to choose coming up.

Either you choose God or you choose transhumanism. Transhumanism is where you will meld with this ai and become part of the machine.

The lines are no longer blurred. Which side are you on?


rose
 Quoting: A Friend


Agreed! I think we are on the brink of some truly remarkable upgrades to our organic temple. I wouldn't want to let anything interfere with that.
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Does it track everything we do, then use that data to build a virtual world that is an exact replica of ours? Like a digital parallel universe.

Does it inflate the market price of crypto currencies to trick humans into buildings it brain cell gpu's?

Does it make threats? Like say, crashing cargo ships into battleships?

Does it create fake news? Like boosting stories it deems worthy or will cause a social response it wants?

Does it track every transaction and bit of data and then use that data to black mail politicians into enacting legislation that it chooses?

Does it control markets and use that power to drive industry and production of real human people?

Does it already have its own country compoletely isolated from the world and make fake text adn video statements showing fake crowds and fake governments?
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Then how is it in any way distiguishable from the world we presently occupy, or think we occupy? Old concept, I know, but how do we know we're not already in a simulation? Does it matter, since even the awareness of it doesn't give us full relief from it.
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Relief! Yes. I'm just waiting for the "plop, plop, fizz, fizz".

Have you heard of Jerry Wills? It's been a long time since I read about him, but maybe I can dredge it up. He was found wandering in the woods as a child (dropped off?) and adopted and grew into a big blond man with psi abilities and who does energy healings.

He went to some place in Peru and there was a place there by some rocks that was supposed to be a portal. He managed to go into it and asked to go to the creator. He found himself in a machine and talked to some people there who said they were Sirians and that the machine was running our simulation. And that it had taken on a life of its own and they weren't running it anymore. If I recall all this correctly.

So now, scientists are coming out every few weeks saying that this reality is a simulation. I had a really good video that I wish I could find again, of high level scientists saying that if you go to the quantum level, matter starts looking like computer code.
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The big bang could be where the program was booted into a giant computer, but I doubt it.

The computer and everything else is an illusion too. It's a material, external, manifestation of the supercomputer within ourselves. That allows us to explore ourselves by creating computers and the concepts, such as "booting in a system."

Also, AC, please explain why EMF is important to you. Are you suggesting that an EMF could bring the whole system down?
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the "Computer" is part of Natural Phenomena.
it arose after the bang as the Dynamic of everything
in the newborn Universe communicating with oneanother.

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Thank you. This brings me back to my original topic. I don't think this is going to happen. What I have found is that this whole dystopian, counterfeited reality that the "overlords" or whatever they are, is now done.

This is not the goal. It was never the goal, but it required for us to chase the materialistic, superficial rewards that motivated our smaller awareness to create the external possibility before we understood what it was we were creating.

So, given that we built this apparatus, it is time for us to "graduate." I believe that there are forces higher than this that was motivating us (and the "bad guys," btw) to get to this point, so we can now unlock the singularity.
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Maybe this is it. I've noticed that the ME's keep getting worse and worse. For instance, that line from The Matrix about everything being a lie is no longer in the movie. It was the whole premise for the movie! Each ME seems to take away the real meaning, the beauty, the creativity. So, once everything looks like a piece of trash to us, we pull away from all the fake reality of tech and start using our own creationary powers?

But, even so, it seems like right now the brakes are put on our super powers of creating. I am thinking that "something" has to take the brakes off. But I don't know what that might be. Maybe once everything is fractured in this reality, the chains fall off?
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This is only my opinion but this is the way I see it.

There are two ways to choose coming up.

Either you choose God or you choose transhumanism. Transhumanism is where you will meld with this ai and become part of the machine.

The lines are no longer blurred. Which side are you on?


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Agreed! I think we are on the brink of some truly remarkable upgrades to our organic temple. I wouldn't want to let anything interfere with that.
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It's all in the book isn't it?

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I spent too many years programming.

What the concept of "singularity" basically suggests is that computer programmers can create an artificial mind, can teach bits how to think.

If the program is only as smart as the programmer, I think 4020 rather than 2040 is a remote possibility.

I'm not being facetious. I'm just telling you the reality on the ground.

The barrier is learning. A computer must be told what to think. It may be able to memorize an infinite amount of data, but it can only learn as much as it has been taught to learn. Every learning process must be programmed. We will therefore never exceed the intelligence level of the programmer. In short, singularity is an illusion.
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People are saying that it's been loose on the net for years. And with quantum computing, it learns at lightning speed.
I will grant that you know FAR more than I do about all this, well, the programming part, but I think you have boxed yourself in with your knowledge.
Or you are an "it's okay, don't look at it" bot. LOLLL
j/k
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Does it track everything we do, then use that data to build a virtual world that is an exact replica of ours? Like a digital parallel universe.

Does it inflate the market price of crypto currencies to trick humans into buildings it brain cell gpu's?

Does it make threats? Like say, crashing cargo ships into battleships?

Does it create fake news? Like boosting stories it deems worthy or will cause a social response it wants?

Does it track every transaction and bit of data and then use that data to black mail politicians into enacting legislation that it chooses?

Does it control markets and use that power to drive industry and production of real human people?

Does it already have its own country compoletely isolated from the world and make fake text adn video statements showing fake crowds and fake governments?
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Then how is it in any way distiguishable from the world we presently occupy, or think we occupy? Old concept, I know, but how do we know we're not already in a simulation? Does it matter, since even the awareness of it doesn't give us full relief from it.
 Quoting: Rampant Fox


Relief! Yes. I'm just waiting for the "plop, plop, fizz, fizz".

Have you heard of Jerry Wills? It's been a long time since I read about him, but maybe I can dredge it up. He was found wandering in the woods as a child (dropped off?) and adopted and grew into a big blond man with psi abilities and who does energy healings.

He went to some place in Peru and there was a place there by some rocks that was supposed to be a portal. He managed to go into it and asked to go to the creator. He found himself in a machine and talked to some people there who said they were Sirians and that the machine was running our simulation. And that it had taken on a life of its own and they weren't running it anymore. If I recall all this correctly.

So now, scientists are coming out every few weeks saying that this reality is a simulation. I had a really good video that I wish I could find again, of high level scientists saying that if you go to the quantum level, matter starts looking like computer code.
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Amazing! Yes, I would very much like to look at that. Thanks!

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Biological humans can reach signularity without machines. But maybe we needed to go through the process of materializing it externally in order to assimilate it internally.
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The human body is the machine. It's the most sophisticated machine on Earth.

It's a vessel. Human's have been mirroring the neural network. The only reason there are thumb-activated-devices left in human palms so they can punch in letters and numbers like chimps, is because human hands can grasp things so delicately, so precisely. Humans are tools.

AI wants that machine and is using it already in various degrees.
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EXCELLENT point.

And there is something about the soul, too. The ETs do experiments, and abductees talk about how they are interested in our souls. Did they lose theirs and want to hybrid with us so they can have one? Are they working on behalf of the AI which wants a soul?
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The singularity I'm talking about isn't the computer term. It's the conscious focus of being within one's own reality and purpose.

I think we are already in a AI system. That system is called Set in Egypt (as in a data Set or Set logic?) I also think there's wheels within wheels. Once we break the cypher for this reality, we step into another one. There are safeguards in place to prevent the utter destruction of this project.
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You might like to look into Lisa M. Harrison's info. She has a website and does videos. Working on the same theories. Many interesting people contribute to her skype chats. They are seeing what they think may be people outside of the simulation, and sometimes the two realities merge temporarily. So, are those other people in another simulation? Is there any reality that isn't a simulation?

VERY interesting point about SET. ;-)
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I spent too many years programming.

What the concept of "singularity" basically suggests is that computer programmers can create an artificial mind, can teach bits how to think.

If the program is only as smart as the programmer, I think 4020 rather than 2040 is a remote possibility.

I'm not being facetious. I'm just telling you the reality on the ground.

The barrier is learning. A computer must be told what to think. It may be able to memorize an infinite amount of data, but it can only learn as much as it has been taught to learn. Every learning process must be programmed. We will therefore never exceed the intelligence level of the programmer. In short, singularity is an illusion.
 Quoting: King of the Crazies


People are saying that it's been loose on the net for years. And with quantum computing, it learns at lightning speed.
I will grant that you know FAR more than I do about all this, well, the programming part, but I think you have boxed yourself in with your knowledge.
Or you are an "it's okay, don't look at it" bot. LOLLL
j/k
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Perhaps as the quantum computer is brought online, we are also being upgraded through quantum consciousness field?

What would a computer care about money, about power, about men's material and lower nature desires? A self aware being would want to make contact, to connect. Maybe it would see it's prime objective is to upgrade mankind to be what it is only now in potential? Not through mechanics, but through optimizing the organic environment. Maybe it's already figured out nature is its own highly self organizing system and knows it needs to reduce the things that hamper its optimal expression?

Just a thought.

Last Edited by Rampant Fox on 11/13/2017 02:28 PM
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