Senate Passes Bill Requiring Citizens Report Privately Stashed Cash

Hahaha! People here are going to keep saying 'RINO' and keep trying to make excuses for business as usual with the Republican Party. You all are looking at the same Republican snakes who were in Congress with Bushie and they're always trying to pull the same kind of shit and nobody ever learns. Until we get rid of those snakes, we haven't a hope of getting anybody in the Party to follow the Constitution.

Trump said it himself a decade ago, which all here choose to ignore: he said if he ever ran for president, he'd run as a Republican because they were the stupidest voters in the country.

We already know, long since, that the Democratic 'elite' have absolute contempt for the voters. It's about time you all faced up to the fact that the Republicans hold us in contempt in equal measure. There are honest Republicans - Ron Paul was the best but Americans were too stupid to put him in the White House - and his son Rand is good, Susan Collins is good, Lisa Murkowski, Ted Poe and a few others, but we'd better fire the snakes or this is all just going to get worse.

The near fact it's actually been composed as legislation is enough

Period

I really don't care about the party. I care about honest, intelligent people who are loyal to Americans and the Republic. It's just that there are none (that I can see) in the Democratic party. Damn few in the Republican as well. Trump is a man quite apart of the politics. He has to deal within the party and work with the party, but he's not an insider. Which suits me just fine!

I agree. It's been a real eye opener and a reminder for me to remain vigilant and never underestimate what they may be trying to pull on us. It seems they never rest in their pursuit of taking what's ours.

I agree with you darkwolf007, this is BS. The point is that traveling means actually moving. Not a arbitrary thought that your RV 'can' move. I live in a physical home, so it's not moving, hence I can never travel unless I put a boatload of cash in my car, then get busted and found out.

The point is, although this is a piece of shit legislation, it doesn't affect you unless you try to cross borders w/more than 10K.

Am I wrong?

As you should know, government servant, requiring an answer to that question violates the 5th Amendment. And I know you wouldn't want to engage in such untoward behavior.

Like another poster said, it's a very suspicious and convoluted bill that doesn't specify the terms. It could be applied broadly. That's another sketchy thing.

Last Edited by Rampant Fox on 01/02/2018 06:08 PM

Exactly like all of these other vague Legalese heavy Laws...

Ahhhhh.... Thank You. I needed a good laugh for today!!

This.

Trump will sign this trash law in .

Nobody **owns** ANY cash, by definition.

It is a bearer instrument.

Do you 'Hold Title' to it? Fuck no. If someone takes it, it's just plain gone - nor does it belong to the one who took it.

These fuckstools that invent these laws are just plain stupid.

I look forward to seeing when there is a Report Link available and I'll start SPAMMING it to death with my own personal information and see what the fuck they do about it

The best thing to do is to write or call your congressman and have them vote against this unlawful power grab. And then write Trump to veto this crap bill if it ever gets before his desk.

exactly. I think this is the whole point of crypto currency. To funnel towards cryptocracy. Your bitcoins exist in the electronic world. You think the 3 letter agencies don't know every keystroke?

But say Sam the carpenter went to his corner gold store and bought a few coins. Possible a satellite could track him. Far less likely.

Of course, but how come these distinguished law-makers (that you {?} voted for time and time again..) didn't see how 'unconstitutional bla bla' this law would be?



Is this Feinstein's first "mistake" ? No? Then how come she is still a senator?

It is a setup for gold and silver confiscation.

1. Force you to register.
2. Ask you to it in since they already know how much you have.
3. If you do not report, they will just come and take it.

This has nothing to do with bitcoin. Bitcon has no value anyway. It is not even money.

Its a blatant fucking over reach again, you don't need to know everything I have. If I get caught in the commission of a crime that's one thing. My business is my fucking business! Its absurd when you think about the trillions of dollars lost by the government and their giving away of tax dollars to foreign nations!!! Get fucking serious here, they cant balance a fucking check book but want to hold your feet to the fire!!??

Unjust laws are meant to be broken!

I hide my stash in my wife's old panties.

Do I have to report them?

Too many States (Texas for one) would never go along with au/ag being listed as assets as they are the only thing mentioned under Article 1 Section 10 of the Constitution as being 'Legal tender'...why do I know this as a Canadian...sheesh...
This could be a back door for the eradication, shit do I want to get into this I've been up since 430...hell ya! This could be the back door for the eradication of the Federal reserve note which is an entirely illegal construct. BUT there has to be some mechanism in place to keep up the 'social niceties' in play now. Retirement funds, Social Security, pensions etc. Those things working Americans payed into, thinking they were investing in the future with.
There are many of those things that were being payed into. Private investing of course does not count. But getting a chunk off your paycheque forcibly taken from you without recourse is not one of those.
If Trump is serious about MAGA then the Fed has to go along with the IRS etc, all the non-Constitutional agencies along those lines. Boom...wipe out the Fed and there is no 'debt'. Hand the people in charge of the debt a US treasury note for '200 bazillion dollars' and tell them to f-off. Sessions just okay'd a Bill on 'debtors prisons' (I'm to lazy and I have to cook soon and go to work in the am) that pretty much allows the real Government to jail anyone involved with the Fed to go to jail once they realize, with their real-eyes, that the jig is up.
Utilizing the wealth and stored capitol of the US the Treasury (if indeed anything of merit is held at Ft Knox/West Point etc) of the United States can overturn Nixon's blow out of August 71 and back the dollar by a certain percentage of stolen American gold. This would then be a competing (it is dying FYI) currency with the about to be released gold Yuan and gold Ruble and between those three countries we can actually stop wars and it is not the NWO as it is supposed now. China wants to trade, Russia is set to become the largest exporter of organic food in the world.
No one wants a fight except the cornered rats in DC and as the swamp drains...they will not have any algae/pond scum to feed from. MAGA then #MEGA. In that order.

I buried a bunch of coins 10 years and 4 homes ago when I was drunk and forgot where I put it.

Check yer math dude!

Exactly. People seems to think this law will help crime. Nothing could be further from the truth. This law is directed right at average Joe six pack who works hard and obeys the law.

I can remember 20 or 30 years ago when they first passed the law that required banks to report all transactions of more than 10 thousand dollars. Back then 10 thousand dollars bought you 3 or 4 times as much as it does today.

Their reasoning for the law was that it would help law enforcement fight terrorism, money laundering and illegal drugs. Since then I have waited and waited to see some big take downs of the bad guys. Hasn't happened. No more busts of bad guys then before the law was passed. In fact there seems to be less busts.

But then again we know why. Because the Government are the bad guys. They fund ISIS, Al Quida and the Drug Cartels. In fact Obama was even arming the Drug Cartels via "Fast and Furious".

Did the law prevent Corporations from moving trillions offshore? Hell no.

Instead they look the other way and only see average Joe taking out 9,999 dollars nd charge him with "structuring".

Look back at Enron. They scammed billions out of people. Where were the regulators armed with this law? No where to be found. Ken Lay the CEO of Enron gets charged and convicted. He was supposed to go to court to be sentenced but has a heart Attack and dies? Since he was never sentenced then they had to wipe his record clean. His conviction was thrown out.

Ken Lay is not dead...where is he now? Living it up on some paradise Island?

Now this. Force us to report and put value on our assets. If I am not selling my assets then how in the hell do I know what it is worth? Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I can say something is worth this amount or that amount but it means nothing until someone actually pays me that amount.

But then that is exactly what the government wants. Force you o put an arbitrary worth on an asset then charge you with underestimating its value. There is zero chance of you winning. They will have you by the balls.

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Well to a degree I agree, it will be an event. They had better have the military behind them, because if this goes down wrong, they are going to need them for protection. Something is going on behind the scene and they playing with fire. I'm thinking all those built cities in China are for all of the politicians. If this backfires any politician who stays, will be lynched in public.

well they already have laws for that so why the addition?

Senate had hearings on it recently and it wasn't shelved so it'll pass in some form eventually. Probably fold it into some innocuous funding bill like the slimeballs typically do. And Trump will sign it, like he does everything that Congress vomits out, because Trump works for the bankers.

Capital controls is bad news. Capital controls are never instituted when things are goin' great. That this bill was even introduced and is getting committee hearings is a bad, bad sign.