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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.

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Re: Alcoholic brother
Feel for ya, kiddo.

Alcoholic/addict family members are toxic for your heart.
The sooner you distance and allow them to "reach their
bottom" (as they say in A.A.)...the sooner they can find
their way to self preservation.

Go to your local Alanon before you demand he exit, as you
will have some skill-set to be able to cut through the
chaos and maybe even do an "intervention" for him. If you
care about this person I really believe this will help you
do what you need to do for your own sanity--as well as be
guilt-free for demanding personal borders.

Good luck to you.

cheers
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
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you should kick d50 out
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Feel for ya, kiddo.

Alcoholic/addict family members are toxic for your heart.
The sooner you distance and allow them to "reach their
bottom" (as they say in A.A.)...the sooner they can find
their way to self preservation.

Go to your local Alanon before you demand he exit, as you
will have some skill-set to be able to cut through the
chaos and maybe even do an "intervention" for him. If you
care about this person I really believe this will help you
do what you need to do for your own sanity--as well as be
guilt-free for demanding personal borders.

Good luck to you.

cheers
O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie


Thanks. My main concern is that if I kick him out he will move in with My parents, who cannot deal with his issues or afford him.

He had a crap hand at life but over the past two years I've realized he was more responsible for that than I previously thought.
"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth."
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
 Quoting: Spc__


you should kick d50 out
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
 Quoting: Spc__


Agreed.

And tell that woman you agree something needs to change, & briefly explain the real situation.
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Your poor kids. You are teaching them that is normal.
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
 Quoting: Spc__


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For the sake of your children, show your brother The door.

What's more important to you ? Your children's healthy and safe upbringing or continuing to enable your brother

He has to hit rock bottom before he changes.

Do it now while he has someone else in his life that can take th burden.

Your kids and relationship with your husband are your number one priority.

If you don't , then you will be taking advantage of your brother .

My younger brother was exactly the same but only a few years younger.

He finally got his shit together in life at age 43, after my parents kicked him out
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Kick his ass out! Really, I speak from the experience of having an alcoholic family member. They will devour your emotions, use you as a resouce and when they have gotten everything you have to give --they will find another person to sponge upon. When you've been consumed, broken and torn apart they will never give you a second thought.
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Where is he getting the money to buy alcohol and cigarettes every night?

If he can afford those, he can afford to contribute to the household bills.

And I agree with the other poster that you should set the 'misled' woman straight about what's actually going on. It sounds like your brother is living in a fantasy land, and I'm sorry, but you're enabling him.

Good luck OP!
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Where is he getting the money to buy alcohol and cigarettes every night?

If he can afford those, he can afford to contribute to the household bills.

And I agree with the other poster that you should set the 'misled' woman straight about what's actually going on. It sounds like your brother is living in a fantasy land, and I'm sorry, but you're enabling him.

Good luck OP!
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He gets them from the women he talks to, after my husband and I have settled into our area of the house for the night. He lives on our back porch so he has his own door. I can't figure out what woman wouldn't be able to put two and two together...if he's asking them for money for stuff, it seems it would be obvious he has no money.
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Where is he getting the money to buy alcohol and cigarettes every night?

If he can afford those, he can afford to contribute to the household bills.

And I agree with the other poster that you should set the 'misled' woman straight about what's actually going on. It sounds like your brother is living in a fantasy land, and I'm sorry, but you're enabling him.

Good luck OP!
 Quoting: Alivenz


He gets them from the women he talks to, after my husband and I have settled into our area of the house for the night. He lives on our back porch so he has his own door. I can't figure out what woman wouldn't be able to put two and two together...if he's asking them for money for stuff, it seems it would be obvious he has no money.
 Quoting: Spc__


well you believed his shit for years, so why shouldn,t she?

as far as she knows you are the sponge/leech
its all about what he tells her.

you should kick him out, and talk to your parents about it.
that you can,t live like this,and they can,t either.
let them read the messages she send you as proof.

your not responsible for other peoples lives if it ruins your own and your husbands and children.

the reason he doesn,t need a job is because you take care of his every needs.
no job no responsibilites no need for a job so spend his time drinking and doing what he wants.
and your an idiot for letting him get away with that(bluntly speaking).

kick him out, either het gets his act together and sobers up or someday you get a message that he has drunk himself into an early grave.

you are responsible for your family,s life not his.
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How does he get the alcohol if he has no job?
When the one great scorer comes to write against your name, he writes not that you won or lost but how you played the game.

The stance and stare of a wolf you find yourself alone with will tell you that he is prepared to treat you as you would treat him. Whether that comforts or frightens you, he has told you all you need know about both.
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Learn all you can about tough love now. You are letting him stay an alcoholic bum. Kick his sorry ass out to the curb. If your parents are dumb enough to take him in, then it's not your problem anymore. You should care about your husband and children FIRST!
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Tell the woman that's he has been talking to , to come get him and his things. Do NOT let him go live with your parents.
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You need to get him out before he gets diagnosed with cirrhosis or liver disease. If that happens? He will be too sick to even leave.
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You have a heart of gold . Alcoholism is so destructive to healthy relationships .
You tried to help and he is not getting better .
The advice from Oracle to go to Al Anon is excellent . You need support for the tough love that is required .
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
 Quoting: Spc__


He's exhibiting sociopath traits. My 2nd eldest brother is a full blown sociopath. Keep far far away.

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Miss Z ?
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Rehab or throw is drunk ass out. I have had the same problem in the past. Son wouldn't do rehab so out the door. He's now in prison for a few years.
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You poor thing. Message the woman back, tell her the truth about him and tell her to come get him and move him in with her.
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Hes got to hit rock bottom and want to get help, otherwise he is sadly a lost cause at the moment. He wil lie and manipulate anyone he can to rationalise what he is doing. I know from experience, i personally hit rock bottom over christmas, have ended up in hospotal twice since and have seen how my selfish actions are destroying my loved ones. I have been to see my local alcohol support group today, and will hopefully be starting an in patient detox within the month. Not because i have too, but because ive finally realised i WANT too. Not just for myself but for those who mean a lot to me as well. I wish you and your brother all the best and i hope he realises before he leaves it as late as i did and nearly winds up dead.
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How the fuck does he support his habits if he doesn't work?
The world just might end with me
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I know you wrote a bunch of sad words, but I can't stop looking at the OP's avatar.

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How the fuck does he support his habits if he doesn't work?
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Real dumb sluts are giving this alcoholic bum money to buy his alcohol.
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My 50 year old brother is a raving alcoholic and (mostly)ex junkie.
He now longer has the comprehension he used to have and gets into huge arguments over silly things.
He lives with his GF who is a bigger alcoholic and is violent towards him
While I have a spare room and a caravan, he is not welcome to use them for more than a weekend and even a weekend would be too much.
He cannot live with our Mother cos we wont let him.

He has to sort his own life out, its not up to us.

He was such great fun as a kid...we did everything together.

But that was a lifetime ago and I dont want to be a part of what is happening to him now.
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
 Quoting: Spc__


Agreed.

And tell that woman you agree something needs to change, & briefly explain the real situation.
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Cock block the poor drunk? You sir are a real piece of shit!

Talk your brother up, maybe she will let him move in.
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
 Quoting: Spc__


you should kick d50 out
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Rehab or throw is drunk ass out. I have had the same problem in the past. Son wouldn't do rehab so out the door. He's now in prison for a few years.
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did the same with my stepson. tried to help him get on his feet for years but he would do nothing to help himself. called the cops one night when he went too far and he's been on his own since. lived in the woods for a while and now he's in jail.

kicking them to the curb is all a family member can do anymore because you can't have them committed for treatment unless they go voluntarily. even then they can walk out anytime after a few days. even the courts can't make them stay if they have committed no crime.

it's not illegal to be an alcoholic or crazy, unfortunately.





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