Ready for the Real Hunger Games? 19 Million Acres Will Not Be Planted This Year

As it turns out, we might be flooded with ethanol. If this wet weather continues until harvest we might have a larger fraction contaminated with aflatoxin and have no choice but to send it to the distillery. This does mean a smaller fraction for food and feed purposes and the cost will be higher because farmers have to artificially dry it before sending to market.

Edit: and the export market becomes much smaller since most countries have a much lower limit of aflatoxin than the US. In a buying frenzy our premium grains will be much more valuable than what the domestic market is used to paying.

Last Edited by Lowkey Cyberpunk on 07/05/2019 09:33 PM

Excellent analysis.

Well worth the attention, despite some advertising.

A must-watch.

Agreed I have the YT attention span of a three year old and watched the whole thing plus gave commentary on another thread. Not often I do that.

how much food in usa or europe is thrown away in a year?...
how much energy is spent to produce that amount of food that is thrown away?...

Last Edited by PsihoLog on 07/07/2019 06:50 PM

This is a disingenuous argument, the vegetables that are thrown away have only a fraction of the calories of grains which is what is being discussed here. You don't see feedlot operations on green peppers or lettuce or brussel sprouts. Grains are the foundation of high calorie food services.

Now vegetables are fine for a balanced diet and I plan on growing them but for my own personal survival, I have taken steps to grow grains. Then starches, like potatoes.

But to focus on tomatoes being thrown away as some kind of crisis? I'm not all impressed at this point. Bring a more developed argument.

Edit: to focus on tomatoes being thrown away as if they would solve the hunger problems that we already have is a trailing edge solution to a problem that has evolved.

Last Edited by Lowkey Cyberpunk on 07/07/2019 07:29 PM

Another must see video.

SO does that mean were are going to STOP turning corn into car fuel???

how much energy is spent to produce that amount of food that is thrown away?...
how much energy is spent to transfer that amount of food?...
how much energy is spent to make meals of that food?...
how much energy is spent to store that amount of food...
watch it in terms of mathematics...

you have heard about math, right?...
and then, that numbers place in this terms...
what impact that have on nature?....

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You haven't answered my questions but I shall endeavor to answer yours. Modern agriculture spends so many calories to plant a field, to care for it, to harvest it. And then it goes to market. How many calories are we getting per vegetable? How many per grain? To put the onus on people who are throwing out vegetables is to show an incomplete view of crops in this country. You might focus on vegetables and lose perspective on the wider view. We won't survive on vegetables.

when i said food, i did not said only vegetables....
all food combined...

considering that meat and corn , it is poison...
same as it is here...

and nature do not like poison...

with less on table, more appreciation and care that will take/give...
maybe even some other things come along...

This is a start, thank you.

The largest part of wasted food is vegetables which is why I needed you to say that you weren't concerned with that fraction. It would be a fruitless endeavor otherwise.

Meat and grain, that's the part that we should be concerned with. After all, the greatest energy of our food chain goes into that part. Well, dairy and eggs would be part of that. I've never given a second thought to proteins on sale even though I know the implications. After a while you accept what is offered and hope that you aren't permanently damaged when you are able to shift to a better form of production. In light of what is coming, we (at least I) can't be choosy with what we can get.

It isn't my view that I'm always correct, I often have faulty reasoning. I welcome challenges to my thinking as long as they have strong reasoning behind them. Expect my challenges when I challenge you!

Last Edited by Lowkey Cyberpunk on 07/07/2019 08:46 PM

Hey, people - come either learn or help - lots of us will eat beans and rice to stretch our better food longer - see what you think here and add your ideas, please.

Thread: What will make beans & rice taste good? What are you stocking that you don't like? Tell us about it.

I hear that these superpail stored beans get really hard after years of storage, enough that a day soak in water doesn't work.

I hope people who have stored beans long term will post their experience here - that sounds very unpleasant! May we ask where you heard this?

I believe it was survivalblog.

Finally made it to Walmart today, and the potato product shelf is similar to others we have seen - not quite as bad, but definitely with blank spots. What I call the "good" brand of instant mashed potatoes, Idahoan, had several missing flavors, though I found most of my favorites. No "loaded baked" variety.

I didn't check the canned food aisle, but soup aisle seemed well-stocked.

This is western Washington out on the coast.

The discount grocery I usually shop has been having sales on chicken parts. Yesterday I purchased chicken drumsticks for .99 per pound - cannot beat that! Need to go back for another family-sized package.

I hope people are reading and thinking and realizing the need for purchasing your foods now, while they are available and not 50-100% more than today!

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What happens when the food runs out?

So basically 1% of what we throw away in the united States every season.