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A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...

 
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
As expected: bullshit video #51

Distance = 123 miles
Observer height = 63 meters (Point Dume, Malibu)
Target height = 3302 meters (Mt. San Jacinto)

Applying standard refraction 1880 meters of Mt. San Jacinto is hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

The buildings visible in the foreground are from the Marina del Rey at a distance of 31 km. Given the observers height, less then 10 cm are hidden of the buildings.
[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Why do these flat-earth-distance-fuckwits never take atmospheric refraction into account? Is it on purpose, to deliberately deceive the watchers, or is it stupidity?
 Quoting: Hydra

The mountains should not be visible, if the curve were true (your having a functional disconnect here).

But they are, which means, there is no curve. Refraction or not, it would not cause the entire mountain range that would be behind a curve to magically appear over the horizon. Refraction/mirages do not work that way at all.

The only thing visible at that camera altitude if we were on a globe, would be a section of the top of the mountains - but instead we can clearly see it way more than just the peak, ...
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

I gave you the link to a correct calculator for calculating what part of an object is hidden and what is visible: [link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Only if atmospheric refraction is not taken into account, only a small part of the mountain should be visible.

Unfortunately, for the flattards, atmospheric refraction is real - and applying standard refraction, from the 3302 meter high mountain 1880 meters are hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

And, isn't it funny, that it fits with the numbers (in feet) given in the video at 5:00. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] (I hope you can convert meters into feet.)


... some of it hidden obviously because of distance and where the sky meets the land horizon line, but at that distance its called convergence and the image gets so tiny it gets compressed visually but nothing drastic like a mirage, and it certainly would not magically lift a mountain over the horizon because were using infared.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Does that gibberish make any sense? No.


I don't get why so many refuse to see that, the end result is better anyway and more logical, God is real. Would you rather God not be real and us a random speck like they want to sell you, because the price ain't worth it.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

So your god can only create a pizza earth?

My God can create a complete universe from a single, tiny point. A universe that develops itself into galaxies, stars, planets, ....
You should feel intense shame that you diminish God by claiming, he can only create a pizza-earth.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
As expected: bullshit video #51

Distance = 123 miles
Observer height = 63 meters (Point Dume, Malibu)
Target height = 3302 meters (Mt. San Jacinto)

Applying standard refraction 1880 meters of Mt. San Jacinto is hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

The buildings visible in the foreground are from the Marina del Rey at a distance of 31 km. Given the observers height, less then 10 cm are hidden of the buildings.
[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Why do these flat-earth-distance-fuckwits never take atmospheric refraction into account? Is it on purpose, to deliberately deceive the watchers, or is it stupidity?
 Quoting: Hydra

The mountains should not be visible, if the curve were true (your having a functional disconnect here).

But they are, which means, there is no curve. Refraction or not, it would not cause the entire mountain range that would be behind a curve to magically appear over the horizon. Refraction/mirages do not work that way at all.

The only thing visible at that camera altitude if we were on a globe, would be a section of the top of the mountains - but instead we can clearly see it way more than just the peak, ...
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

I gave you the link to a correct calculator for calculating what part of an object is hidden and what is visible: [link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Only if atmospheric refraction is not taken into account, only a small part of the mountain should be visible.

Unfortunately, for the flattards, atmospheric refraction is real - and applying standard refraction, from the 3302 meter high mountain 1880 meters are hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

And, isn't it funny, that it fits with the numbers (in feet) given in the video at 5:00. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] (I hope you can convert meters into feet.)


... some of it hidden obviously because of distance and where the sky meets the land horizon line, but at that distance its called convergence and the image gets so tiny it gets compressed visually but nothing drastic like a mirage, and it certainly would not magically lift a mountain over the horizon because were using infared.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Does that gibberish make any sense? No.


I don't get why so many refuse to see that, the end result is better anyway and more logical, God is real. Would you rather God not be real and us a random speck like they want to sell you, because the price ain't worth it.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

So your god can only create a pizza earth?

My God can create a complete universe from a single, tiny point. A universe that develops itself into galaxies, stars, planets, ....
You should feel intense shame that you diminish God by claiming, he can only create a pizza-earth.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


Your mocking shit you don't understand at all. "a pizza earth" Guess what, that "pizza earth" is providing everything right now, its your existence, so you can mock all you want. Your god is nothing but CGI and AI, and the elite controlling pawns like you. If fine dude, believe the earth is round, because they tell you, ignore reality.
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
As expected: bullshit video #51

Distance = 123 miles
Observer height = 63 meters (Point Dume, Malibu)
Target height = 3302 meters (Mt. San Jacinto)

Applying standard refraction 1880 meters of Mt. San Jacinto is hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

The buildings visible in the foreground are from the Marina del Rey at a distance of 31 km. Given the observers height, less then 10 cm are hidden of the buildings.
[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Why do these flat-earth-distance-fuckwits never take atmospheric refraction into account? Is it on purpose, to deliberately deceive the watchers, or is it stupidity?
 Quoting: Hydra

The mountains should not be visible, if the curve were true (your having a functional disconnect here).

But they are, which means, there is no curve. Refraction or not, it would not cause the entire mountain range that would be behind a curve to magically appear over the horizon. Refraction/mirages do not work that way at all.

The only thing visible at that camera altitude if we were on a globe, would be a section of the top of the mountains - but instead we can clearly see it way more than just the peak, ...
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

I gave you the link to a correct calculator for calculating what part of an object is hidden and what is visible: [link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Only if atmospheric refraction is not taken into account, only a small part of the mountain should be visible.

Unfortunately, for the flattards, atmospheric refraction is real - and applying standard refraction, from the 3302 meter high mountain 1880 meters are hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

And, isn't it funny, that it fits with the numbers (in feet) given in the video at 5:00. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] (I hope you can convert meters into feet.)


... some of it hidden obviously because of distance and where the sky meets the land horizon line, but at that distance its called convergence and the image gets so tiny it gets compressed visually but nothing drastic like a mirage, and it certainly would not magically lift a mountain over the horizon because were using infared.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Does that gibberish make any sense? No.


I don't get why so many refuse to see that, the end result is better anyway and more logical, God is real. Would you rather God not be real and us a random speck like they want to sell you, because the price ain't worth it.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

So your god can only create a pizza earth?

My God can create a complete universe from a single, tiny point. A universe that develops itself into galaxies, stars, planets, ....
You should feel intense shame that you diminish God by claiming, he can only create a pizza-earth.
 Quoting: Hydra

Your mocking shit you don't understand at all. "a pizza earth" Guess what, that "pizza earth" is providing everything right now, its your existence, so you can mock all you want.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

butthurt

No comment on the calculation of the visible part of the mountain?
Yep, I blew up your funny video. Bullshit flat earth video #51, bullshit like all the other 50 bullshit videos.


If fine dude, believe the earth is round, because they tell you, ignore reality.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Reality shows me that a German equatorial telescope mount works fine on a globe earth - care to explain how it works on a flat earth.
Reality shows me that the linear scale on the Samrat Yantra in Jaipur works fine on a globe earth - care to explain how it works on a flat earth.
Reality shows me that the height of Polaris above the north pole works fine on a globe earth - care to explain how it works on a flat earth.

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Last Edited by Hydra on 08/07/2019 09:16 PM
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
You cant walk off the edge. Its protected by the dome. Plus..no one can reach unlessntheybwant toning a body bag. Earth is flat if you believe the bible and history. JS
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The bible does NOT say tye earth is flat.

But you satanic illuminati stooges want to make any and all christians a laughing stock by repeating this lie.

And as jo one ever really reads the bible lots of them beleive the lie.

For lack of knowledge.

What you dont know CAN hurt you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50641699

""And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day."
(Genesis 1:6-8 KJV)

A Firmament, is flat.

Anything other lie you wnat to spew, shitbag?
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

And once again: The Bible is not a scientific book, God didn't write the Bible, it was written by men that were not even on the scientific level of that time (otherwise they would have known, that rabbits don't chew the cud, that insects don't have four legs but six and the pi isn't = 3)

Bullshit
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Lacking
Evidence

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 Quoting: Hydra


Rabbits: [link to www.google.com (secure)]

Insects: [link to www.google.com (secure)]

Does Pi equal 3: [link to www.google.com (secure)]
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
As expected: bullshit video #51

Distance = 123 miles
Observer height = 63 meters (Point Dume, Malibu)
Target height = 3302 meters (Mt. San Jacinto)

Applying standard refraction 1880 meters of Mt. San Jacinto is hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

The buildings visible in the foreground are from the Marina del Rey at a distance of 31 km. Given the observers height, less then 10 cm are hidden of the buildings.
[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Why do these flat-earth-distance-fuckwits never take atmospheric refraction into account? Is it on purpose, to deliberately deceive the watchers, or is it stupidity?
 Quoting: Hydra

The mountains should not be visible, if the curve were true (your having a functional disconnect here).

But they are, which means, there is no curve. Refraction or not, it would not cause the entire mountain range that would be behind a curve to magically appear over the horizon. Refraction/mirages do not work that way at all.

The only thing visible at that camera altitude if we were on a globe, would be a section of the top of the mountains - but instead we can clearly see it way more than just the peak, ...
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

I gave you the link to a correct calculator for calculating what part of an object is hidden and what is visible: [link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Only if atmospheric refraction is not taken into account, only a small part of the mountain should be visible.

Unfortunately, for the flattards, atmospheric refraction is real - and applying standard refraction, from the 3302 meter high mountain 1880 meters are hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

And, isn't it funny, that it fits with the numbers (in feet) given in the video at 5:00. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] (I hope you can convert meters into feet.)


... some of it hidden obviously because of distance and where the sky meets the land horizon line, but at that distance its called convergence and the image gets so tiny it gets compressed visually but nothing drastic like a mirage, and it certainly would not magically lift a mountain over the horizon because were using infared.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Does that gibberish make any sense? No.


I don't get why so many refuse to see that, the end result is better anyway and more logical, God is real. Would you rather God not be real and us a random speck like they want to sell you, because the price ain't worth it.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

So your god can only create a pizza earth?

My God can create a complete universe from a single, tiny point. A universe that develops itself into galaxies, stars, planets, ....
You should feel intense shame that you diminish God by claiming, he can only create a pizza-earth.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


Your mocking shit you don't understand at all. "a pizza earth" Guess what, that "pizza earth" is providing everything right now, its your existence, so you can mock all you want. Your god is nothing but CGI and AI, and the elite controlling pawns like you. If fine dude, believe the earth is round, because they tell you, ignore reality.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan


and this part, I was just typing too fast and annoyed by ignorant cunts like yourself, I deal with oblivious people all the time you're no different.

"... some of it hidden obviously because of distance and where the sky meets the land horizon line, but at that distance its called convergence and the image gets so tiny it gets compressed visually but nothing drastic like a mirage, and it certainly would not magically lift a mountain over the horizon because were using infared."
 Quoting: Hydra


what I was wanting to write was , ...some of it is hidden obviously because of distance (more distance, the more the visual drop of an object behind the horizon/over the curve), also right above the buildings where the buildings and mountains meet at the horizon level, theres a small section thats cut off visually because its too far to visually render the base of the mountain where it meets the top of the buildings at the horizon level.

In a mirage, you can clearly see the horizon line by the mirroring effect, which is literally non existant in the infrared video. Aside from very small compression - which won't "lift" the mountain's into view. Sorry, that is not logical at all. Refraction means nothing in the infrared video which is the point i was trying to make. Changing optics won't make the mountains magically appear, using any of your words, just because. It would only show a small portion/peak right over the buildings, but you don't understand that.

The only way for the mountain to be in view like it was in the video, if we were on a Globe, the camera altitude would have had to been few thousand feet up. But the Camera is at ground level, and we see the mountain... (this is where your common sense should kick in) especially since theres no/minimal refraction/optical illusions to hide behind.

Again, going back to, we see too far.
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Wow, yet another thread where Satan worshipping Hydra is getting beat down. How does this guy still have a job?
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
I bet my buddy Jimmy Hoffa $50 he couldnt walk off the edge either, back in 1975...havent seen the fukr since, or my fiddy.

Itz gotta be flat bruh. He gone. Jimmy wouldnt let fiddy slip by, no way.
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Nothing to ad, it is pointless, really. It won't matter what others think, it is only one way. Maybe they will fall off since that is there belief? History shows us, people were told the earth is flat and they will fall off so the slaves would not leave the kingdoms. pht
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
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I never claimed the earth was flat fuckwit.

You highlight a quote I made

" I do, however, know how water behaves - it always displays a flat surface despite what is underneath it, it can't bend, it can't display convexity of a shape on the surface. This is the experience of every single person alive or indeed everyone whom has ever lived. This common knowledge of how water behaves denies a globular earth. Of course you are freely open to challenge but you must display evidence of said claim. The claim of a globe Earth deny this practical reality."

You deny this?
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

You: I've made no claims
Also you: I do, however, know how water behaves - it always displays a flat surface despite what is underneath it, it can't bend, it can't display convexity of a shape on the surface. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

You claim: Water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Three claims - why do you lie?

Btw.: Prove that Water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.
Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.
 Quoting: Hydra

Taken out of context...
 Quoting: BTBIC 11911557

Taken out of context?
You wrote: I've made no claims - You didn't write: I've made no claims that earth is flat.

You in general said: I've made no claims thus it isn't out of context.


I'll make a claim :- water can't display convexity of a shape upon its surface.........ever. Prove this wrong we'll go from there, prove how intellectually honest you are.
 Quoting: BTBIC 11911557

Thank you for admitting that you made the above claim. You know the rules: I don't have to prove anything - the burden of proof is at the claimant.

Prove that water always displays a flat surface, that water can't bend and that water can't display convexity.
Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


I was talking to someone who asked me to prove the earth was flat when I said I made no claims. Now the person I was responding too didn't include posts made elsewhere. That's you manipulating the conversation.....of course I made that claim. Separately. Completely unrelated to the post I responded too.

It's all dancing in circles with you to avoid the statements you hand wave away and the questions you can't answer.

Buh bye Charlatan, I can see right through you.
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Excellent well thought out response.

Still, the proof bit...........nope, still nothing.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082


The proof is so simple any half wit can run the experiment:

All you need is a camera with a sun filter.

1) Take a picture of the sun every hour from sunrise to sunset using the sun filter

2) compare the relative size of the sun on every picture.

You will notice to your amazement that the sun's relative size does not change throughout the day

Consequences:

The relative distance between your camera and the sun throughout the day is always the same.

This means:

->The sun does not move relative to the earth.
->The sun is very far away from the earth
->the earth cannot be a flat pancake
->Only possible shape the earth can be is a rotating globe.

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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
I have a couple of questions for all the brain dead flat Earth folks.

What is on the other side of the flat Earth? What is holding it up?

If you say it is a giant God called Atlas, you are definitely a medium grade moron.

Also, what happens to stuff that falls off the edge?

Where does the sun go when it sets?

Why do days get shorter or longer by season?

Have you ever done math with a base of Pi?
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Ever since I flew from Australia to New York and had to stop in friggin Japan.. to GET TO NEW YORK as in East Coast of USA not West Coast

I looked it up later and it's a straight shot on a flat surface... I don't know man

I just don't know for sure anymore
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
And once again: The Bible is not a scientific book, God didn't write the Bible, it was written by men that were not even on the scientific level of that time (otherwise they would have known, that rabbits don't chew the cud, that insects don't have four legs but six and the pi isn't = 3)

Bullshit
In
Bookform
Lacking
Evidence
 Quoting: Hydra

Rabbits: [link to www.google.com (secure)]

Insects: [link to www.google.com (secure)]

Does Pi equal 3: [link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7941847

So animals that occasionally eat their own shit are ruminants? Then my dog is a ruminant, too.
And insects have four walking legs and two hindlegs for hopping? I guess kangaroos are bipeds then. Have you ever watched an insect walking?
And pi = 3 is just a rounding error (I have seen more intelligent excuses for this than yours).

You bible tards are real funny. - What about talking animals? Will you tell me that animals could talk 3500 years ago?

tard

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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As expected: bullshit video #51

Distance = 123 miles
Observer height = 63 meters (Point Dume, Malibu)
Target height = 3302 meters (Mt. San Jacinto)

Applying standard refraction 1880 meters of Mt. San Jacinto is hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

The buildings visible in the foreground are from the Marina del Rey at a distance of 31 km. Given the observers height, less then 10 cm are hidden of the buildings.
[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Why do these flat-earth-distance-fuckwits never take atmospheric refraction into account? Is it on purpose, to deliberately deceive the watchers, or is it stupidity?
 Quoting: Hydra

I gave you the link to a correct calculator for calculating what part of an object is hidden and what is visible: [link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Only if atmospheric refraction is not taken into account, only a small part of the mountain should be visible.

Unfortunately, for the flattards, atmospheric refraction is real - and applying standard refraction, from the 3302 meter high mountain 1880 meters are hidden and 1422 meters are visible.

And, isn't it funny, that it fits with the numbers (in feet) given in the video at 5:00. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] (I hope you can convert meters into feet.)
... some of it hidden obviously because of distance and where the sky meets the land horizon line, but at that distance its called convergence and the image gets so tiny it gets compressed visually but nothing drastic like a mirage, and it certainly would not magically lift a mountain over the horizon because were using infared.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Does that gibberish make any sense? No.
 Quoting: Hydra


and this part, I was just typing too fast and annoyed by ignorant cunts like yourself, I deal with oblivious people all the time you're no different.

"... some of it hidden obviously because of distance and where the sky meets the land horizon line, but at that distance its called convergence and the image gets so tiny it gets compressed visually but nothing drastic like a mirage, and it certainly would not magically lift a mountain over the horizon because were using infared."
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

what I was wanting to write was , ...some of it is hidden obviously because of distance (more distance, the more the visual drop of an object behind the horizon/over the curve), also right above the buildings where the buildings and mountains meet at the horizon level, theres a small section thats cut off visually because its too far to visually render the base of the mountain where it meets the top of the buildings at the horizon level.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

So the base of the mointain isn't visible because it is to far but the more distant peak of the mountain is well visible? Did you think that up yourelf or is the gibberish a lesson from the University of YouTube?


In a mirage, you can clearly see the horizon line by the mirroring effect, which is literally non existant in the infrared video. Aside from very small compression - which won't "lift" the mountain's into view. Sorry, that is not logical at all. Refraction means nothing in the infrared video which is the point i was trying to make. Changing optics won't make the mountains magically appear, using any of your words, just because. It would only show a small portion/peak right over the buildings, but you don't understand that.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

How do you come to the conclusion that refraction means nothing in the near infrared between 800 nm and 1000 nm? Another gibberish lesson from the UoY?

The drop in the refraction index in the visible range of light is just 0.01 per mille: 1.000299 at 400 nm and 1.000291 at 800 nm. [link to aty.sdsu.edu (secure)]
If you claim that the drop is significant heigher in the near infrared range, you have to provide evidence for your claim.


The only way for the mountain to be in view like it was in the video, if we were on a Globe, the camera altitude would have had to been few thousand feet up. But the Camera is at ground level, and we see the mountain... (this is where your common sense should kick in) especially since theres no/minimal refraction/optical illusions to hide behind.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

You didn't have a look at the calculator I linked too, did you? [link to www.metabunk.org (secure)] No, you didn't since it would burst you flat bubble.

Btw.: The camera was not at ground level but at 60 meters (197 feet), a big difference in what you see and what you don't see.

And again: If you claim that refraction does not apply in the near infrared range, you have to provide evidence for your claim.


Again, going back to, we see too far.
 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan

Wrong. We see exactly what we should see given the distance, the observer height and the target height, regardless of visible light or near infrared.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Ever since I flew from Australia to New York and had to stop in friggin Japan.. to GET TO NEW YORK as in East Coast of USA not West Coast

I looked it up later and it's a straight shot on a flat surface... I don't know man

I just don't know for sure anymore
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Take a flight from Sydney to Santiago de Chile (or from Sydney to Johannesburg, QF63).

fesydscl

Then ask yourself why you don't fly above North and Middle America.
Ask yourself, if the 747 in use for these flights, is a supersonic aircraft (more than 30,000km in about 15 hours).
And ask yourself why you see so much ice during the flight. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
It's very easy to prove flat, Simply hold a straight edge up to the horizon, if it's flat, level, straight = earth flat. See ANY curve, = globe.. She flat folks...
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
You: I've made no claims
Also you: I do, however, know how water behaves - it always displays a flat surface despite what is underneath it, it can't bend, it can't display convexity of a shape on the surface. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

You claim: Water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Three claims - why do you lie?

Btw.: Prove that Water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.
Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.
 Quoting: Hydra

Taken out of context...
 Quoting: BTBIC 11911557

Taken out of context?
You wrote: I've made no claims - You didn't write: I've made no claims that earth is flat.

You in general said: I've made no claims thus it isn't out of context.


I'll make a claim :- water can't display convexity of a shape upon its surface.........ever. Prove this wrong we'll go from there, prove how intellectually honest you are.
 Quoting: BTBIC 11911557

Thank you for admitting that you made the above claim. You know the rules: I don't have to prove anything - the burden of proof is at the claimant.

Prove that water always displays a flat surface, that water can't bend and that water can't display convexity.
Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.
 Quoting: Hydra

I was talking to someone who asked me to prove the earth was flat when I said I made no claims. Now the person I was responding too didn't include posts made elsewhere. That's you manipulating the conversation.....of course I made that claim. Separately. Completely unrelated to the post I responded too.

It's all dancing in circles with you to avoid the statements you hand wave away and the questions you can't answer.

Buh bye Charlatan, I can see right through you.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

Again, henhouse dweller: You wrote: I've made no claims - You didn't write: I've made no claims that earth is flat. How about being specific the next time.

And since you admitted that you made three claims in another thread - water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity - we are waiting for your proof.

Prove that water always displays a flat surface, that water can't bend and that water can't display convexity.
Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.

Buh bye henhouse dweller, I can see right through your lame try to distract from your failure to prove your claims.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
I declare OP to be the funniest OP in all the land...

(gestures widely)
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
It's very easy to prove flat, Simply hold a straight edge up to the horizon, if it's flat, level, straight = earth flat. See ANY curve, = globe.. She flat folks...
 Quoting: blue leaf 11852964

straight edge: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

I grabbed one of the guys and tried to hold him up to the horizon. He was furious fighting me and at the end I gave up and released him.

Do you have any other prove for a flat earth? Even if you get a small guy, it's difficult to hold them up to the horizon, they just won't stay level.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
It's very easy to prove flat, Simply hold a straight edge up to the horizon, if it's flat, level, straight = earth flat. See ANY curve, = globe.. She flat folks...
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straight edge: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

I grabbed one of the guys and tried to hold him up to the horizon. He was furious fighting me and at the end I gave up and released him.

Do you have any other prove for a flat earth? Even if you get a small guy, it's difficult to hold them up to the horizon, they just won't stay level.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


Notice no counter argument from u.. There is none... BOOM
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
It's very easy to prove flat, Simply hold a straight edge up to the horizon, if it's flat, level, straight = earth flat. See ANY curve, = globe.. She flat folks...
 Quoting: blue leaf 11852964

straight edge: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

I grabbed one of the guys and tried to hold him up to the horizon. He was furious fighting me and at the end I gave up and released him.

Do you have any other prove for a flat earth? Even if you get a small guy, it's difficult to hold them up to the horizon, they just won't stay level.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


Notice no counter argument from u.. There is none... BOOM
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It’s funny isn’t it. They expect you to believe a ship starts to go over the horizon/curve at about 3 to 4 mi out
Yet, I can set a rule out to the horizon, and 10-15 miles of horizon 4 to 5 miles out there is not curve.

Seriously strange ball we live on???

Jk, it’s not a ball

Also, if water curved 8” in a mile i should be able to measure a curve in my swimming pool or fish tank, albeit very small. Should still be measurable
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
...

You: I've made no claims
Also you: I do, however, know how water behaves - it always displays a flat surface despite what is underneath it, it can't bend, it can't display convexity of a shape on the surface. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

You claim: Water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Three claims - why do you lie?

Btw.: Prove that Water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.
Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.
 Quoting: Hydra

Taken out of context...
 Quoting: Dell the Daft Cunt 11911557

Taken out of context?
You wrote: I've made no claims - You didn't write: I've made no claims that earth is flat.

You in general said: I've made no claims thus it isn't out of context.


I'll make a claim :- water can't display convexity of a shape upon its surface.........ever. Prove this wrong we'll go from there, prove how intellectually honest you are.
 Quoting: Dell the Daft Cunt 11911557

Thank you for admitting that you made the above claim. You know the rules: I don't have to prove anything - the burden of proof is at the claimant.

Prove that water always displays a flat surface, that water can't bend and that water can't display convexity.
Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


I was talking to someone who asked me to prove the earth was flat when I said I made no claims. Now the person I was responding too didn't include posts made elsewhere. That's you manipulating the conversation.....of course I made that claim. Separately. Completely unrelated to the post I responded too.

It's all dancing in circles with you to avoid the statements you hand wave away and the questions you can't answer.

Buh bye Charlatan, I can see right through you.
 Quoting: Dell the Daft Cunt


Careful there Dell. You might stroke out roid raging in your mom's shed like that.

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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
It's very easy to prove flat, Simply hold a straight edge up to the horizon, if it's flat, level, straight = earth flat. See ANY curve, = globe.. She flat folks...
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hesright
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
I bet my buddy Jimmy Hoffa $50 he couldnt walk off the edge either, back in 1975...havent seen the fukr since, or my munny.

Itz gotta be flat bruh. He gone.

Jimmy wouldnt let fiddy slip by, no way.
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08/08/2019 08:31 AM
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
I have a couple of questions for all the brain dead flat Earth folks.

What is on the other side of the flat Earth? What is holding it up?

If you say it is a giant God called Atlas, you are definitely a medium grade moron.

Also, what happens to stuff that falls off the edge?

Where does the sun go when it sets?

Why do days get shorter or longer by season?

Have you ever done math with a base of Pi?
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Fuk your white supremacy azz.
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
I have a couple of questions for all the brain dead flat Earth folks.

What is on the other side of the flat Earth? What is holding it up?

If you say it is a giant God called Atlas, you are definitely a medium grade moron.

Also, what happens to stuff that falls off the edge?

Where does the sun go when it sets?

Why do days get shorter or longer by season?

Have you ever done math with a base of Pi?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73158164


Fuk your white supremacy azz.
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clappa
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08/08/2019 08:33 AM
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
You cant walk off the edge. Its protected by the dome. Plus..no one can reach unlessntheybwant toning a body bag. Earth is flat if you believe the bible and history. JS
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Yep. Old military operations seem to hint at this as well...Operation Highjump and Fishbowl.
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
It's very easy to prove flat, Simply hold a straight edge up to the horizon, if it's flat, level, straight = earth flat. See ANY curve, = globe.. She flat folks...
 Quoting: blue leaf 11852964

straight edge: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

I grabbed one of the guys and tried to hold him up to the horizon. He was furious fighting me and at the end I gave up and released him.

Do you have any other prove for a flat earth? Even if you get a small guy, it's difficult to hold them up to the horizon, they just won't stay level.
 Quoting: Hydra

Notice no counter argument from u.. There is none... BOOM
 Quoting: blue leaf 11852964

How long is a "straightedge" (yes, sometimes orthography matters)? 30 centimetres? May be 50 centimetres?

Now tell me:
What is the angular size of a straightedge, held at arm length, at the horizon?
How many kilometres or what part of the circumference of earth does that represent at the horizon?
What's the height of the resulting circular segment?
Should you be able to see it?

I hope you can do some simple trigonometry (but I guess "no" - otherwise you wouldn't be a flattard).

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Why would a person hang around and use complex maths to argue with people it considers “retards”?

That is really one way to find out who is a disinformation shill

Nobody with any sense argues with retards

That makes that person an idiot

Hydra doesn’t think you’re a retard. It’s a tool of propaganda. Hydra is trying to keep stupid people stupid by refuting thinking people using rhetoric and confusing maths mixed with moving goal posts asking for impossible proofs to any laymen


You’re welcome.

You’re better off not responding to it
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Why would a person hang around and use complex maths to argue with people it considers “retards”?

That is really one way to find out who is a disinformation shill

Nobody with any sense argues with retards

That makes that person an idiot

Hydra doesn’t think you’re a retard. It’s a tool of propaganda. Hydra is trying to keep stupid people stupid by refuting thinking people using rhetoric and confusing maths mixed with moving goal posts asking for impossible proofs to any laymen


You’re welcome.

You’re better off not responding to it
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Ad hominem noted. Any real arguments? No? Thought so.

Oh, and the shill gambit. Yep that's for losers - you lost, flattie.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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