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A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...

 
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Charlatan,

I will not allow you to equate 2-Spheres with 3-Balls (i.e. 2 dimension geometry of surface and 3D geometry of solid bodies) just because you have been conditioned with globes and bought into the incessant lies about "Outer Space"
2-Spheres and 3-Balls geometry share certain equations and theorems making discernment difficult and confusing (using maths).
Surfaces and volumes are very different things and should never be equated in mathematical reasoning or compared to each other.

A 2-Sphere cannot contain any water, being itself only a surface. Apparently the 3-Ball has large bodies of water taking the shape of its exterior (held together by nonsensical fictional forces).
All this is contrary to repeatable, observable, constant and uniform laws of nature. Water always takes the shape of its container. This is an obvious fact and for you to refute this is absurd to common reasoning. Prove this isn't happening.



Gas Pressure:- do you know what pressure is? Genuine question; because your logic when faced with the obvious statement that gas pressure must have a container you seem to invoke all kinds of illogical assumptions and weird notions to back up an idea you have no demonstrable backing for.

Fuck you
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Charlatan,

I will not allow you to equate 2-Spheres with 3-Balls (i.e. 2 dimension geometry of surface and 3D geometry of solid bodies) just because you have been conditioned with globes and bought into the incessant lies about "Outer Space"
2-Spheres and 3-Balls geometry share certain equations and theorems making discernment difficult and confusing (using maths).
Surfaces and volumes are very different things and should never be equated in mathematical reasoning or compared to each other.

A 2-Sphere cannot contain any water, being itself only a surface. Apparently the 3-Ball has large bodies of water taking the shape of its exterior (held together by nonsensical fictional forces).
All this is contrary to repeatable, observable, constant and uniform laws of nature.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

Henhouse dweller,

spouting a lot of nonsensical pseudo-scientific bla-bla doesn't let you look intelligent - quite the opposite.


Water always takes the shape of its container. This is an obvious fact and for you to refute this is absurd to common reasoning.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

Because you say so?
Sorry, but I don't believe a psychotic henhouse dweller who can't prove any of his claims.


Prove this isn't happening.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

I don't have to prove anything.

It was you who claimed that water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Prove it. Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


Gas Pressure:- do you know what pressure is? Genuine question; because your logic when faced with the obvious statement that gas pressure must have a container you seem to invoke all kinds of illogical assumptions and weird notions to back up an idea you have no demonstrable backing for.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

And what's your point (besides the repeat of your claim that there is a container around Earth)?

Still no poof of your claim that there is a container around earth.
Again. prove it. Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
There's an easy way to definitely put an end to this debate.

An experiment must be done with a telescope during a perfectly clear day, starting when the sun rises on the eastern side of America.

A fairly big ship would travel in a straight line from the eastern most point in Canada, towards Europe.

The telescope would stand from a decent height, say 150 feet above see level.

If the telescope can't catch a glimpse of the ship went it reaches around 500 miles out, then the flat earth enthusiasts will have to concede.

On the other hand if a visual is possible as far out as 500 miles, then the planet being regarded as a globe would make no sense anymore.
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Charlatan,

I will not allow you to equate 2-Spheres with 3-Balls (i.e. 2 dimension geometry of surface and 3D geometry of solid bodies) just because you have been conditioned with globes and bought into the incessant lies about "Outer Space"
2-Spheres and 3-Balls geometry share certain equations and theorems making discernment difficult and confusing (using maths).
Surfaces and volumes are very different things and should never be equated in mathematical reasoning or compared to each other.

A 2-Sphere cannot contain any water, being itself only a surface. Apparently the 3-Ball has large bodies of water taking the shape of its exterior (held together by nonsensical fictional forces).
All this is contrary to repeatable, observable, constant and uniform laws of nature.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

Henhouse dweller,

spouting a lot of nonsensical pseudo-scientific bla-bla doesn't let you look intelligent - quite the opposite.


Water always takes the shape of its container. This is an obvious fact and for you to refute this is absurd to common reasoning.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

Because you say so?
Sorry, but I don't believe a psychotic henhouse dweller who can't prove any of his claims.


Prove this isn't happening.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

I don't have to prove anything.

It was you who claimed that water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Prove it. Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


Gas Pressure:- do you know what pressure is? Genuine question; because your logic when faced with the obvious statement that gas pressure must have a container you seem to invoke all kinds of illogical assumptions and weird notions to back up an idea you have no demonstrable backing for.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

And what's your point (besides the repeat of your claim that there is a container around Earth)?

Still no poof of your claim that there is a container around earth.
Again. prove it. Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


What are you trying to sell?

If you think water does not take the shape of the container then you are free to think that. I know it does. Nothing pseudo-scientific about that. I'm not selling an idea or concept to anyone. No preconceived notions need to be backed up with gobbledygook.

Simple question can you describe and define pressure?
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Charlatan,

I will not allow you to equate 2-Spheres with 3-Balls (i.e. 2 dimension geometry of surface and 3D geometry of solid bodies) just because you have been conditioned with globes and bought into the incessant lies about "Outer Space"
2-Spheres and 3-Balls geometry share certain equations and theorems making discernment difficult and confusing (using maths).
Surfaces and volumes are very different things and should never be equated in mathematical reasoning or compared to each other.

A 2-Sphere cannot contain any water, being itself only a surface. Apparently the 3-Ball has large bodies of water taking the shape of its exterior (held together by nonsensical fictional forces).
All this is contrary to repeatable, observable, constant and uniform laws of nature.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

Henhouse dweller,

spouting a lot of nonsensical pseudo-scientific bla-bla doesn't let you look intelligent - quite the opposite.


Water always takes the shape of its container. This is an obvious fact and for you to refute this is absurd to common reasoning.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

Because you say so?
Sorry, but I don't believe a psychotic henhouse dweller who can't prove any of his claims.


Prove this isn't happening.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

I don't have to prove anything.

It was you who claimed that water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Prove it. Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


Gas Pressure:- do you know what pressure is? Genuine question; because your logic when faced with the obvious statement that gas pressure must have a container you seem to invoke all kinds of illogical assumptions and weird notions to back up an idea you have no demonstrable backing for.
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

And what's your point (besides the repeat of your claim that there is a container around Earth)?

Still no poof of your claim that there is a container around earth.
Again. prove it. Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.
 Quoting: Hydra

What are you trying to sell?

If you think water does not take the shape of the container then you are free to think that. I know it does. Nothing pseudo-scientific about that. I'm not selling an idea or concept to anyone. No preconceived notions need to be backed up with gobbledygook.

Simple question can you describe and define pressure?
 Quoting: BTBIC 6660082

weaselout

Still no practical demonstration of your claims that water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Still no practical demonstration of your claims that there is a container around earth.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Very good Charlatan.

I make no claims to know the shape of the earth. You are trying desperately to channel this to me proving the earth is flat. I'm questioning the validity of the claim I live on a ball. The claim is absurd and ridiculous. It, literally, holds no water.

The most common defence of the claim is to try to attach something to attack, that in itself is rather telling.
You do not know you live on a ball you just think you do. Most don't subscribe to your paid to post propaganda anymore. Your ignorance and cult behavior is more than obvious. You are a clown.

You cant even give your definition of pressure.
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Very good Charlatan.

I make no claims to know the shape of the earth. You are trying desperately to channel this to me proving the earth is flat.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Lame try to divert from your inability to prove your claims, henhouse dweller.

You make the claims that water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Up to now you didn't provide any evidence for your claims, the only thing you do is repeating your claims like a mantra.

And as I said before: I don't believe the words of a psychotic weirdo, living in a henhouse.
I want prove, practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


I'm questioning the validity of the claim I live on a ball. The claim is absurd and ridiculous. It, literally, holds no water.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

And I'm questioning the validity of the claim, you are a sane person. The claim is absurd and ridiculous. It, literally, holds no water.


Most don't subscribe to your paid to post propaganda anymore.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Another claim, I am sure, you won't provide any evidence for.

Aaaand the shill gambit. Yep, the shill gambit is for pathetic losers - you lost, henhouse dweller.


You cant even give your definition of pressure.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Why should I? - I never mentioned the word "pressure".

But you made the claim that "You cannot have gas pressure without a container.....ever." and you constantly refuse to provide evidence for your claim.

Prove it, practical demonstration of the claim made. Simple. No pseudo science.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
you really don't need any practical demonstration.

There are never a high pressure/low pressure system next to each other harmoniously without a barrier. Gas particles seek equilibrium. One becomes the other. Happens everywhere except in the "ball earth" paradox where we are to believe we're surrounded by a near perfect vacuum void.
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Very good Charlatan.

I make no claims to know the shape of the earth. You are trying desperately to channel this to me proving the earth is flat.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Lame try to divert from your inability to prove your claims, henhouse dweller.

You make the claims that water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Up to now you didn't provide any evidence for your claims, the only thing you do is repeating your claims like a mantra.

And as I said before: I don't believe the words of a psychotic weirdo, living in a henhouse.
I want prove, practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


I'm questioning the validity of the claim I live on a ball. The claim is absurd and ridiculous. It, literally, holds no water.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

And I'm questioning the validity of the claim, you are a sane person. The claim is absurd and ridiculous. It, literally, holds no water.


Most don't subscribe to your paid to post propaganda anymore.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Another claim, I am sure, you won't provide any evidence for.

Aaaand the shill gambit. Yep, the shill gambit is for pathetic losers - you lost, henhouse dweller.


You cant even give your definition of pressure.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Why should I? - I never mentioned the word "pressure".

But you made the claim that "You cannot have gas pressure without a container.....ever." and you constantly refuse to provide evidence for your claim.

Prove it, practical demonstration of the claim made. Simple. No pseudo science.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


Proof of everything I wrote, well done at least you are consistent.
There is nothing i have to prove. That it is the experience of every person alive with regards to water. I do not need verification for this - it simply is. Now if I was to suggest against these well known properties of water then I would be duty bound to practically demonstrate that, I do not suggest elasticity, conformation to shape or convexity. That would be absurd.

"The shill gambit" is there for all to see. You class someone as a "psychotic weirdo" and "insane" yet you try arguing with them? it's very clear to see you are pushing a world view with cut and paste retorts and ignorance of practical demonstration. Why? Why why why?

Stalker, cut the copy n paste garb. Come speak too me, or are afraid to talk to me? You would be shown up for the intellectual dishonest little shit you are in about 2 minutes and you know it.....shitebag

Fuck you
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
It is comical, isn't it? These same folks call us that challenge the heliocentric worldview as "insane", "dumb", "ignorant", etc..

However, on every forum there are always a few of them that pounce on every challenge, spewing the same shit.

Nowhere, does anyone with any sanity, sit and argue with people they view as idiots or mentally challenged.

That's fucking absurd. I don't go around to unicorn forums and fight with the believers. Who cares?

That is why they are shills. And everyone can see them for who they are. Full of anger and lies. What a sad life
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
I don't go around to unicorn forums and fight with the believers.
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You're a liar. You came here and accused me of stealing my software from the air force.
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You initiated that, not me. And you did it while on your employer's internet. Maybe I should tell them that one of their employees is using their internet to engage in defamation against my software? It would be a shame if they had to let you go for the potential liability.
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
There are never a high pressure/low pressure system next to each other harmoniously without a barrier. Gas particles seek equilibrium.
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Indeed, which is why there's a gradient of pressure.

You want to accuse me of stealing this software as well, you fuckhead piece of shit?
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
I don't go around to unicorn forums and fight with the believers.
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You're a liar. You came here and accused me of stealing my software from the air force.
Thread: Is Dr. Asstroll's tracking software he claims he made
You initiated that, not me. And you did it while on your employer's internet. Maybe I should tell them that one of their employees is using their internet to engage in defamation against my software? It would be a shame if they had to let you go for the potential liability.
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You're a liar, you stole your software from the air force:
[link to kiwifarms.net (secure)]
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No, I didn't. I wrote the code myself you fucktard. It's on GitHub, I successfully defended against the FALSE copyright complaints it received.
[link to github.com (secure)]
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Very good Charlatan.

I make no claims to know the shape of the earth. You are trying desperately to channel this to me proving the earth is flat.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Lame try to divert from your inability to prove your claims, henhouse dweller.

You make the claims that water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Up to now you didn't provide any evidence for your claims, the only thing you do is repeating your claims like a mantra.

And as I said before: I don't believe the words of a psychotic weirdo, living in a henhouse.
I want prove, practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


I'm questioning the validity of the claim I live on a ball. The claim is absurd and ridiculous. It, literally, holds no water.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

And I'm questioning the validity of the claim, you are a sane person. The claim is absurd and ridiculous. It, literally, holds no water.


Most don't subscribe to your paid to post propaganda anymore.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Another claim, I am sure, you won't provide any evidence for.

Aaaand the shill gambit. Yep, the shill gambit is for pathetic losers - you lost, henhouse dweller.


You cant even give your definition of pressure.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Why should I? - I never mentioned the word "pressure".

But you made the claim that "You cannot have gas pressure without a container.....ever." and you constantly refuse to provide evidence for your claim.

Prove it, practical demonstration of the claim made. Simple. No pseudo science.
 Quoting: Hydra

Proof of everything I wrote, well done at least you are consistent.
There is nothing i have to prove. That it is the experience of every person alive with regards to water. I do not need verification for this - it simply is. Now if I was to suggest against these well known properties of water then I would be duty bound to practically demonstrate that, I do not suggest elasticity, conformation to shape or convexity. That would be absurd.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

And once again for the umpteenth time, and I will repeat it until you get it into your pighead: I don't believe the words of a weirdo, living in a henhouse - I want proof of your claims.

I want proof of your claims that water always displays a flat surface, that water can't bend, that water can't display convexity and that Earth is covered by a dome.
I want a practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


"The shill gambit" is there for all to see.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Yep, the shill gambit is there for all to see: I wasn't the one who called you a shill, it was you who called me a shill.

Shill gambit = loser - you lost, henhouse dweller.


Stalker, cut the copy n paste garb. Come speak too me, or are afraid to talk to me? You would be shown up for the intellectual dishonest little shit you are in about 2 minutes and you know it.....shitebag
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

I'm not here to debate you, I'm here to expose your hypocrisy: While you demand proof (Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.) from everybody who makes a claim regarding a spherical earth, you yourself don't provide any evidence for your claims - mantra like repeating your claims is not proof.

And what would be the benefit for me (and others who refuse to believe in your shit) if I talk to you instead of exposing your hypocrisy in this forum? Would you provide proof for the claims you made?

I have reason to doubt it. Start proving your claims here first.


Fuck you
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

In lieu of arguments this is the best you can come up with? You are getting boring, henhouse dweller.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
You decide.

An actual picture I took of a lunar eclipse. Notice the round, slightly fuzzy shadow.

MyPartLunarEclip


What Flat Earth(ers) think a lunar eclipse looks like.

FELunarEclipse22

Which is more likely to be true?
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Well once again, the flatards get triggered and give me negative karma.



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That's not spiteful? is it?

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He eventually came around
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how bout we prove my boot will fit up yer ass
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
You decide.

An actual picture I took of a lunar eclipse. Notice the round, slightly fuzzy shadow.

:MyPartLunarEclip:


What Flat Earth(ers) think a lunar eclipse looks like.

:FELunarEclipse22:

Which is more likely to be true?
 Quoting: Remedial_Rebel


Nothing in the sky can confirm the shape of the earth you utter utter lunatic
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
Very good Charlatan.

I make no claims to know the shape of the earth. You are trying desperately to channel this to me proving the earth is flat.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Lame try to divert from your inability to prove your claims, henhouse dweller.

You make the claims that water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Up to now you didn't provide any evidence for your claims, the only thing you do is repeating your claims like a mantra.

And as I said before: I don't believe the words of a psychotic weirdo, living in a henhouse.
I want prove, practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


I'm questioning the validity of the claim I live on a ball. The claim is absurd and ridiculous. It, literally, holds no water.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

And I'm questioning the validity of the claim, you are a sane person. The claim is absurd and ridiculous. It, literally, holds no water.


Most don't subscribe to your paid to post propaganda anymore.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Another claim, I am sure, you won't provide any evidence for.

Aaaand the shill gambit. Yep, the shill gambit is for pathetic losers - you lost, henhouse dweller.


You cant even give your definition of pressure.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Why should I? - I never mentioned the word "pressure".

But you made the claim that "You cannot have gas pressure without a container.....ever." and you constantly refuse to provide evidence for your claim.

Prove it, practical demonstration of the claim made. Simple. No pseudo science.
 Quoting: Hydra

Proof of everything I wrote, well done at least you are consistent.
There is nothing i have to prove. That it is the experience of every person alive with regards to water. I do not need verification for this - it simply is. Now if I was to suggest against these well known properties of water then I would be duty bound to practically demonstrate that, I do not suggest elasticity, conformation to shape or convexity. That would be absurd.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

And once again for the umpteenth time, and I will repeat it until you get it into your pighead: I don't believe the words of a weirdo, living in a henhouse - I want proof of your claims.

I want proof of your claims that water always displays a flat surface, that water can't bend, that water can't display convexity and that Earth is covered by a dome.
I want a practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


"The shill gambit" is there for all to see.
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

Yep, the shill gambit is there for all to see: I wasn't the one who called you a shill, it was you who called me a shill.

Shill gambit = loser - you lost, henhouse dweller.


Stalker, cut the copy n paste garb. Come speak too me, or are afraid to talk to me? You would be shown up for the intellectual dishonest little shit you are in about 2 minutes and you know it.....shitebag
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

I'm not here to debate you, I'm here to expose your hypocrisy: While you demand proof (Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.) from everybody who makes a claim regarding a spherical earth, you yourself don't provide any evidence for your claims - mantra like repeating your claims is not proof.

And what would be the benefit for me (and others who refuse to believe in your shit) if I talk to you instead of exposing your hypocrisy in this forum? Would you provide proof for the claims you made?

I have reason to doubt it. Start proving your claims here first.


Fuck you
 Quoting: BTBIC 77929005

In lieu of arguments this is the best you can come up with? You are getting boring, henhouse dweller.

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 Quoting: Hydra


Debate?? You are a clown. Debate objective reality?? There is no debate. It has no duality....it is what it is.

Why do I need to prove water does anything. I'm telling you people who think they know they live on a ball only do so out sheer ignorance or deliberate mind controlling. It can't be proven. Why do I need to argue against an unverified claim?
Your cut n paste bullshit doesn't do it either.

Stop selling your beliefs as knowledge Charlatan you should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
This is not a triggered response or an argument it's a quite sincere FUCK YOU.
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Re: A friend of mine believes that the Earth is flat. I challenged him to prove it by walking off the edge...
You decide.

An actual picture I took of a lunar eclipse. Notice the round, slightly fuzzy shadow.

MyPartLunarEclip


What Flat Earth(ers) think a lunar eclipse looks like.

FELunarEclipse22

Which is more likely to be true?
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Nothing in the sky can confirm the shape of the earth you utter utter lunatic
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Actually you can perform geodesy by monitoring the orbits of satellites. In fact it was one of the first things done using artificial satellites.
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Lame try to divert from your inability to prove your claims, henhouse dweller.

You make the claims that water always displays a flat surface and water can't bend and water can't display convexity.

Up to now you didn't provide any evidence for your claims, the only thing you do is repeating your claims like a mantra.

And as I said before: I don't believe the words of a psychotic weirdo, living in a henhouse.
I want prove, practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


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And I'm questioning the validity of the claim, you are a sane person. The claim is absurd and ridiculous. It, literally, holds no water.


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Another claim, I am sure, you won't provide any evidence for.

Aaaand the shill gambit. Yep, the shill gambit is for pathetic losers - you lost, henhouse dweller.


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Why should I? - I never mentioned the word "pressure".

But you made the claim that "You cannot have gas pressure without a container.....ever." and you constantly refuse to provide evidence for your claim.

Prove it, practical demonstration of the claim made. Simple. No pseudo science.
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Proof of everything I wrote, well done at least you are consistent.
There is nothing i have to prove. That it is the experience of every person alive with regards to water. I do not need verification for this - it simply is. Now if I was to suggest against these well known properties of water then I would be duty bound to practically demonstrate that, I do not suggest elasticity, conformation to shape or convexity. That would be absurd.
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And once again for the umpteenth time, and I will repeat it until you get it into your pighead: I don't believe the words of a weirdo, living in a henhouse - I want proof of your claims.

I want proof of your claims that water always displays a flat surface, that water can't bend, that water can't display convexity and that Earth is covered by a dome.
I want a practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.


"The shill gambit" is there for all to see.
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Yep, the shill gambit is there for all to see: I wasn't the one who called you a shill, it was you who called me a shill.

Shill gambit = loser - you lost, henhouse dweller.


Stalker, cut the copy n paste garb. Come speak too me, or are afraid to talk to me? You would be shown up for the intellectual dishonest little shit you are in about 2 minutes and you know it.....shitebag
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I'm not here to debate you, I'm here to expose your hypocrisy: While you demand proof (Practical demonstration of the claims made. Simple. No pseudo science.) from everybody who makes a claim regarding a spherical earth, you yourself don't provide any evidence for your claims - mantra like repeating your claims is not proof.

And what would be the benefit for me (and others who refuse to believe in your shit) if I talk to you instead of exposing your hypocrisy in this forum? Would you provide proof for the claims you made?

I have reason to doubt it. Start proving your claims here first.


Fuck you
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In lieu of arguments this is the best you can come up with? You are getting boring, henhouse dweller.

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Debate?? You are a clown. Debate objective reality?? There is no debate. It has no duality....it is what it is.

Why do I need to prove water does anything. I'm telling you people who think they know they live on a ball only do so out sheer ignorance or deliberate mind controlling. It can't be proven. Why do I need to argue against an unverified claim?
Your cut n paste bullshit doesn't do it either.

Stop selling your beliefs as knowledge Charlatan you should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
This is not a triggered response or an argument it's a quite sincere FUCK YOU.
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Eventually the walls of that shed are going to fall down from all that rage. You've made claims about water that are contrary to reality and established evidence, it's up to you to support those claims.
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Here's a demonstration of what happens to a depressurized tanker at ordinary sea level pressure. What would happen on the space station in a total vacuum?
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Actually the Mythbusters had a fair bit of trouble re-creating that... They had to first cause a bit of structural damage to the tanker car to get it to fail and implode when they pulled a vacuum on it.

Furthermore, the pressure vessels of ISS are not tanker cars, they are designed to withstand the pressure difference.
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I work with industrial vacuum dehydrators. I once hooked up to a 550 gallon solid steel tank filled with oil. I forgot to open the vent on the top of the tank before I established a deep vacuum (27 torr). I walked away for a few minutes. When I returned the tank was crushed. Vacuum is a very powerful force. I don't know what would happen if I tried to recreate this at a very high altitude but I don't believe that our atmosphere can exist in the vacuum of outer space. I'm not taking a position on FE.
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you really don't need any practical demonstration.

There are never a high pressure/low pressure system next to each other harmoniously without a barrier. Gas particles seek equilibrium. One becomes the other. Happens everywhere except in the "ball earth" paradox where we are to believe we're surrounded by a near perfect vacuum void.
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This is true. This is absolutely true.
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Here's a demonstration of what happens to a depressurized tanker at ordinary sea level pressure. What would happen on the space station in a total vacuum?
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Actually the Mythbusters had a fair bit of trouble re-creating that... They had to first cause a bit of structural damage to the tanker car to get it to fail and implode when they pulled a vacuum on it.

Furthermore, the pressure vessels of ISS are not tanker cars, they are designed to withstand the pressure difference.
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I work with industrial vacuum dehydrators. I once hooked up to a 550 gallon solid steel tank filled with oil. I forgot to open the vent on the top of the tank before I established a deep vacuum (27 torr). I walked away for a few minutes. When I returned the tank was crushed. Vacuum is a very powerful force.
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Incorrect. Vacuum is not a force. Ambient air pressure can exert a force. ISS is also pressurized from the inside, the vacuum outside exerts no force. ISS is engineered to withstand those forces on its internal pressure vessel. A generic steel tank is not necessarily designed to withstand that. What I said stands.
I don't believe that our atmosphere can exist in the vacuum of outer space.
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Doesn't matter what you believe. You're wrong. Your beliefs are irrelevant.

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you really don't need any practical demonstration.

There are never a high pressure/low pressure system next to each other harmoniously without a barrier. Gas particles seek equilibrium. One becomes the other. Happens everywhere except in the "ball earth" paradox where we are to believe we're surrounded by a near perfect vacuum void.
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This is true. This is absolutely true.
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The atmosphere forms a pressure gradient. It is not a binary situation.

Suck on it:
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Here's a demonstration of what happens to a depressurized tanker at ordinary sea level pressure. What would happen on the space station in a total vacuum?
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Actually the Mythbusters had a fair bit of trouble re-creating that... They had to first cause a bit of structural damage to the tanker car to get it to fail and implode when they pulled a vacuum on it.

Furthermore, the pressure vessels of ISS are not tanker cars, they are designed to withstand the pressure difference.
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I work with industrial vacuum dehydrators. I once hooked up to a 550 gallon solid steel tank filled with oil. I forgot to open the vent on the top of the tank before I established a deep vacuum (27 torr). I walked away for a few minutes. When I returned the tank was crushed. Vacuum is a very powerful force.
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Incorrect. Vacuum is not a force. Ambient air pressure can exert a force. ISS is also pressurized from the inside, the vacuum outside exerts no force. ISS is engineered to withstand those forces on its internal pressure vessel. A generic steel tank is not necessarily designed to withstand that. What I said stands.
I don't believe that our atmosphere can exist in the vacuum of outer space.
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Doesn't matter what you believe. You're wrong. Your beliefs are irrelevant.

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You're right, I should not have used the word force. Is it powerful? What I witness was powerful.
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you really don't need any practical demonstration.

There are never a high pressure/low pressure system next to each other harmoniously without a barrier. Gas particles seek equilibrium. One becomes the other. Happens everywhere except in the "ball earth" paradox where we are to believe we're surrounded by a near perfect vacuum void.
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This is true. This is absolutely true.
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The atmosphere forms a pressure gradient. It is not a binary situation.

Suck on it:
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Why do I need to "suck on it"? What's the point of you saying that? Have you have eliminated any and all of the mystery that surrounds us? Do you believe that a vacuum can exist if it is not contained? I'm talking to you, I don't have other people in my life that I can discuss these questions with. I'm learning every day.
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Actually the Mythbusters had a fair bit of trouble re-creating that... They had to first cause a bit of structural damage to the tanker car to get it to fail and implode when they pulled a vacuum on it.

Furthermore, the pressure vessels of ISS are not tanker cars, they are designed to withstand the pressure difference.
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I work with industrial vacuum dehydrators. I once hooked up to a 550 gallon solid steel tank filled with oil. I forgot to open the vent on the top of the tank before I established a deep vacuum (27 torr). I walked away for a few minutes. When I returned the tank was crushed. Vacuum is a very powerful force.
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Incorrect. Vacuum is not a force. Ambient air pressure can exert a force. ISS is also pressurized from the inside, the vacuum outside exerts no force. ISS is engineered to withstand those forces on its internal pressure vessel. A generic steel tank is not necessarily designed to withstand that. What I said stands.
I don't believe that our atmosphere can exist in the vacuum of outer space.
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Doesn't matter what you believe. You're wrong. Your beliefs are irrelevant.

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You're right, I should not have used the word force. Is it powerful? What I witness was powerful.
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Yes, 1 atm pressuring on a non-reinforced steel container around every square inch of its external surface does exert quite a lot of force if there's nothing inside. ISS was not designed with a pressure vessel that is just a regular can of steel. If you've never seen what a spaceship pressure vessel looks like then go take a look at the KSC visitor center on the right side of the Imax theater. They have an unused pressure vessel for Starliner on display.
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you really don't need any practical demonstration.

There are never a high pressure/low pressure system next to each other harmoniously without a barrier. Gas particles seek equilibrium. One becomes the other. Happens everywhere except in the "ball earth" paradox where we are to believe we're surrounded by a near perfect vacuum void.
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This is true. This is absolutely true.
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The atmosphere forms a pressure gradient. It is not a binary situation.

Suck on it:
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Why do I need to "suck on it"? What's the point of you saying that? Have you have eliminated any and all of the mystery that surrounds us?
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Did I say I solved every mystery in the universe? No. Presence of mystery does not mean everything is a mystery. I don't need to know everything to know that a planet's atmosphere can exist even though space is effectively a vacuum.
Do you believe that a vacuum can exist if it is not contained?
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Clearly it can. Look at the source code, there are no containers in my simulation, the particles will gladly keep going in whatever direction they want. The sides of the window are not barriers.
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This is true. This is absolutely true.
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The atmosphere forms a pressure gradient. It is not a binary situation.

Suck on it:
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Why do I need to "suck on it"? What's the point of you saying that? Have you have eliminated any and all of the mystery that surrounds us?
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Did I say I solved every mystery in the universe? No. Presence of mystery does not mean everything is a mystery. I don't need to know everything to know that a planet's atmosphere can exist even though space is effectively a vacuum.
Do you believe that a vacuum can exist if it is not contained?
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Clearly it can. Look at the source code, there are no containers in my simulation, the particles will gladly keep going in whatever direction they want. The sides of the window are not barriers.
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Thanks but you have to admit that this subject can bend the mind. It's a learning process, wish me luck. Which one of nature's mysteries baffles you the most?





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