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How would you change gun laws if you thought it would really change anything

 
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Why would a law prevent actions by law breakers?

Law breakers dont obey laws.

Isnt it illegal to shoot people now?
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Just like it's illegal to run people over. Which is why we have proficiency exams and training.

No one is saying that making laws stricter cuts down the number of gun deaths, it does allow for professional scrutiny of how a person acts around weapons. And adding insurance can help defray the cost of gun violence has on heath care, law enforcement and society.

I find it VERY suspicious when someone is against someone evaluating their behavior when it comes to dangerous weapons.

If people have money for multiple weapons, they have money to put in the fund!
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Not being a turd.
I'm asking an honest question that hopefully gets honest answers.
My thought is I don't think you can
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Ban democrats from guns. Mandatory death penalty for possession.

Ban below 80 IQ from guns. Mandatory death penalty for possession.

Violent crimes would drop 90%.
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With those rules, no cops could carry guns.
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Require every 21 year old to be trained then carry a firearm. When everyone is armed violent crime will drop to near zero.
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Make American Gun Abundant
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Re: How would you change gun laws if you thought it would really change anything
No law will change a person's behavior, so you can't legislate civility and non-violence.

However, we can use some common sense.

Two things I'd like to see.

When a background check is done, it only looks at whether the person has a felony conviction, restraining order, etc., but doesn't check if the applicant has a history of mental illness because that "violates" their medical privacy rights.

We need to change that, and have certain types of mental health treatment be categorized so that some people can't buy guns. They can still acquire them illegally, so this isn't a "solution" but it will make it harder for the mentally ill to easily acquire guns.


The other thing we need to change is the way we sentence violent criminals. We need to stop with the indexing B.S.

This crime = this many years incarceration

and instead start categorizing people as uncivil and violent.

Currently, when a person fully intends to murder someone and attempts to do so, but fails in some way, such as missing their target, or only hitting the target but not lethally, they are sentenced far more leniently than one who succeeds in killing.

This is ridiculous. The two criminals are the same. But we reward the less competent, and they are sometimes released on probation.

In most cases of violent murder, the offender has a long rap sheet that clearly identified them as a danger to society long before they committed their first murder.

Violent people need to be identified and isolated. They should not be released, anymore than a person with a lethal infectious disease would not be released. This is simple common sense.

I seriously propose the return of penal colonies.

Once a person has made it abundantly clear that they intend to operate outside the bounds of civil society, they should lose their rights to live among the rest of us.

Currently, we take a person who rapes, stabs, shoots, attempts to murder, etc., and we basically put them on a time-out. After they've "paid their debt" (which is a ridiculous concept and wrong approach) they are released into the population where they can and will harm again.

We need to stop saying, "You owe society five years incarceration, and then you can be trusted to be free again" and instead say, "You've been identified as a lethal threat to your fellow humans and will thus be excluded from living among decent people."
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Not being a turd.
I'm asking an honest question that hopefully gets honest answers.
My thought is I don't think you can
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I would not change any Gun laws on the books, just enforce them. Second, any federal and state mandated Gun laws should first be tried in Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, LA and DC as a trial run first. Any shootings within 6 months in any of those cities and the Feds and States can screw them self's. I will not conform or participate.
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I'd have all citizens of the world armed and trained by age 12 in specialized citizen ops training, so they would all be capable of serving and protecting life AND LIBERTY, world wide.
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Gun laws are not the problem. The USA used to have guns everywhere and nobody shot anyone.

Its the erosion of morals of the left that is driving gun violence. Turn back to a sound moral code and the gun violence goes away.

We all know that this is true but too many people will do anything to keep their favorite sin even if it means other people will die. We see this in almost ALL of the political positions of the Left.
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A free toy unicorn to every liberal that in their guns.

Release all non-violent drug offenders from prison. We're going to need some room.

Any person committing a gun crime will be tried as an adult.

Any gun crime will carry a 25 year mandatory minimum.

If a life is lost committing a gun crime then the mandatory minimum is 50 years.

Let's start with that. As horrific as these "mass shootings" are the lives lost are a drop in the bucket compared to the massacres that happen in our inner cities every night.

One more thing. People that use medical marijuana cannot legally purchase/own a firearm. Let's extend that to include people on psychotropic prescriptions too.
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Exposing publicly those manipulating the shootings to happen is the best way to stop the shootings.

hf
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start teaching Gods law in schools like we did back in the 1950's you know when there was no shootings
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Teach kids about God
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Not being a turd.
I'm asking an honest question that hopefully gets honest answers.
My thought is I don't think you can
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I would change it so everyone who was a law abiding citizen can open carry.

Problem solved.
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I would re-open all the mental institutions and lock up every democtaye in the nation , forever.
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I'm for 'mandatory' service after high school, and I didn't even serve.
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Make every U.S. citizen 18-65 who isn't a felon carry a gun. If you don't want to, we'll put you in a walled-off, adult day care center and make you wear a stupid hat. There might be some violent spats at first but then people will get real polite to one another.
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Re: How would you change gun laws if you thought it would really change anything
A free toy unicorn to every liberal that in their guns.

Release all non-violent drug offenders from prison. We're going to need some room.

Any person committing a gun crime will be tried as an adult.

Any gun crime will carry a 25 year mandatory minimum.

If a life is lost committing a gun crime then the mandatory minimum is 50 years.

Let's start with that. As horrific as these "mass shootings" are the lives lost are a drop in the bucket compared to the massacres that happen in our inner cities every night.

One more thing. People that use medical marijuana cannot legally purchase/own a firearm. Let's extend that to include people on psychotropic prescriptions too.
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Indict the parents of school shooters, as well.
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Re: How would you change gun laws if you thought it would really change anything
Make every U.S. citizen 18-65 who isn't a felon carry a gun. If you don't want to, we'll put you in a walled-off, adult day care center and make you wear a stupid hat. There might be some violent spats at first but then people will get real polite to one another.
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Wall off San Francisco and send all the leftists there.
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I would make it illegal for a felon to possess a firearm, and make it illegal for urban gangs to possess and use firearms.
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Outlaw SSRI drugs

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Re: How would you change gun laws if you thought it would really change anything
Not being a turd.
I'm asking an honest question that hopefully gets honest answers.
My thought is I don't think you can
 Quoting: Honch


Ban democrats from guns. Mandatory death penalty for possession.

Ban below 80 IQ from guns. Mandatory death penalty for possession.

Violent crimes would drop 90%.
 Quoting: Vicious Deplorable dollop


Add to that a national registry of anyone taking SSRIs and psychotropic drugs.. no bangsticks for you.

Add a piss test as well.. anyone using illegal drugs, you don't pass go and you don't get a gun.

If you use a gun in a crime, you automatically get 20 years in PRISON.

Kill an innocent victim and its life.. or death.

this shit would end in a hot second.

Caught with crack and a gun.. 20 years

caught with a gun as a violent felon... 20 years.

just do it.
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Re: How would you change gun laws if you thought it would really change anything
Prohibit guns that shoot many bullets quickly to reduce the number of mass shooting victims.
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Not being a turd.
I'm asking an honest question that hopefully gets honest answers.
My thought is I don't think you can
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Constitutional Carry.

Every free peaceable citizen SHOULD carry his sidearm with him, every day, every where he goes. Law which forbid this facilitate mass murder.
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MAKE GUN OWNERSHIP MANDATORY LIKE IT IS IN SWITZERLAND.
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That country is 99.9% WHITE..

That works in places where you dont have feral humanoid subhuman species walking around in altered states.
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Paint all the black guns white and they'd stop shooting people.
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start teaching Gods law in schools like we did back in the 1950's you know when there was no shootings
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GOD & I, the returned Christ, are going to abolish guns in the US like we did slavery in a previous life. We're going to amend The Constitution/Bill of Rights. Are you with Us?
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Not being a turd.
I'm asking an honest question that hopefully gets honest answers.
My thought is I don't think you can
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insurance or taxes.

Gun owners must pay for having dangerous weapons and be responsible for the carnage they produce.
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We should make you carry 30 million dollars of liability coverage in case you reproduce.. asshole.
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Looks like the main thing most of us agree on is psyche evals and mandatory gun safety/training of some sort
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Re: How would you change gun laws if you thought it would really change anything
Start with harsh penalties for having any military grade weapon that isn’t registered. Harsh penalties for possession of a military grade weapon OUTSIDE YOUR OWN HOME.
Anyone with a history of violence would be unable to legally own firearms, and they would be subject to search if they create any noise.
Since Big Brother is everywhere, and most people spill their guts online anyway, whatever bullshit a person spews online about guns would be fair game to search them for unregistered weapons. And if you break those laws, you’re branded dangerous, like a sex offender.
Still freedom, but penalties for being an asshole.
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But I want to have my M-249 and M-60 in my truck.

Would that mean my MK-19 would not be allowed at the restaurant with me?


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