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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 9738904 United States 10/07/2019 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. It's not a Left/Right paradigm movie, it's a "The Elite are fucking us over, so lets go kill them and do what the fuck we want" movie. The Ultimate nightmare scenario is that the underdogs of both the Right and the Left come together, and use their respective skills to just trash everything in a unified manner. This is a serious situation, and one that the Government better start looking at very closely. Of course, you're in so much chaos yourselves, that I don't know if you have much time to look at much of anything anymore. The underclasses of the Right Wing and the Left Wing are eventually going to figure out that they're really not so different, and have been purposely divided for political reasons. It's at this point that they'll come together, and then the Government has a serious situation on their hands. The division is purposeful, it's a necessity for them to keep these two groups DIVIDED, but it's not going to last much longer. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73995166 United States 10/07/2019 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. It's Satan (Batman) vs Michael (Joker). Think of like the movie 'Carrie' where everyone is hating on Carrie, then that fire hose (GOD) destroys everyone with fire. Keep following Batman and that is where you are headed. You've been warned. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 9738904 United States 10/07/2019 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. Oh shut the fuck up Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75322624 A deranged lunatic wouldn't go to the movie to watch it if he planned on doing crazy shit He would just do his crazy shit.. not watch a flick and relate to a character That's conjecture, and an assumption really. A mass shooter/killer knows that his odds of being a free man after he carries out the act are less than .1%. Because of this, and the underlying motivating emotions triggering such an individual to do something like that, certain things (Like this movie) can make them hold off, in order to more effectively carry out their initial intentions at a later date. I think that many of the mass shooter types who've gone to see 'Joker' just assume that they're in the presence of like minded individuals, since it's a film that deals heavily with mental illness and Governmental social programs as well as pharmaceuticals, before the radical shift into murder and mayhem begins. There's no reason to shoot people that you believe you have some kind of connection with, just sit there quietly and obtain ideas. Stephen Paddock is the ultimate real life iteration of the Joker. Luckily, most don't have the skills, arsenal, and stockpile of money that he did. Sadly though, many completely agree with what he did, and would do the same thing if they could. You're just not getting it, and I'm done with this thread. Go see the movie (If you already haven't) and then come back and see if you still hold that view. James Holmes didn't relate with Heath Ledger's idiotic iteration of "The Joker" at all, he didn't feel any need to watch a piece of shit movie, which is why he just opened fire. He also didn't feel like he was in the presence of like minded individuals that deserved to live. Mental Illness isn't something that that takes 10 minutes to understand, it takes a PHD and post doctoral work to even touch the surface of it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78062042 United States 10/07/2019 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. it's kind of a Bernie Getz movie. Bernie Getz was beaten up severely prior to his run in on the subway that left him handicapped. he then of course shot up those black people. in the movie of course, it's the evil rich white people no in real life it's not rich white people who abuse poor mentally ill whites. it's blacks, by a ration of one million to one. it's to make poor white males look pathetic and disgraceful and to make them think it's rich white people (their step dbrothers) who are their arch enemy. while the black female is his salvation. jesus black females are the WORSE most insidious racists, most of whites have no idea what acidic caustic racism of black females does to their lives. they use every bit of power they get at any job to ruin white men's lives, deny them opportunites, cause them trouble, it is fucking ridiculous, they have hijacked the entire social services meant to help us, that's why you see ZERO homeless blacks and hordes of homeless whites, because ONLY blacks get section 8 housing ,they hog everything whites gave to society and cost countless white people their LIVES with their ugly racism |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75322624 United States 10/07/2019 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. Oh shut the fuck up Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75322624 A deranged lunatic wouldn't go to the movie to watch it if he planned on doing crazy shit He would just do his crazy shit.. not watch a flick and relate to a character That's conjecture, and an assumption really. A mass shooter/killer knows that his odds of being a free man after he carries out the act are less than .1%. Because of this, and the underlying motivating emotions triggering such an individual to do something like that, certain things (Like this movie) can make them hold off, in order to more effectively carry out their initial intentions at a later date. I think that many of the mass shooter types who've gone to see 'Joker' just assume that they're in the presence of like minded individuals, since it's a film that deals heavily with mental illness and Governmental social programs as well as pharmaceuticals, before the radical shift into murder and mayhem begins. There's no reason to shoot people that you believe you have some kind of connection with, just sit there quietly and obtain ideas. Stephen Paddock is the ultimate real life iteration of the Joker. Luckily, most don't have the skills, arsenal, and stockpile of money that he did. Sadly though, many completely agree with what he did, and would do the same thing if they could. You're just not getting it, and I'm done with this thread. Go see the movie (If you already haven't) and then come back and see if you still hold that view. James Holmes didn't relate with Heath Ledger's idiotic iteration of "The Joker" at all, he didn't feel any need to watch a piece of shit movie, which is why he just opened fire. He also didn't feel like he was in the presence of like minded individuals that deserved to live. Mental Illness isn't something that that takes 10 minutes to understand, it takes a PHD and post doctoral work to even touch the surface of it. You're wrong. Nobody who is crazy enough to do that, has second guesses I deal with scumbags everyday , they don't have consciences Maybe you are confusing losers , with mass murderers, which is what it seems Because mass murderers don't give a shit about a film or other people , they want their 5 minutes in the spotlight |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69785662 United States 10/07/2019 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. Stephen Paddock is the ultimate real life iteration of the Joker. Luckily, most don't have the skills, arsenal, and stockpile of money that he did. Sadly though, many completely agree with what he did, and would do the same thing if they could. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9738904 Wow, for a self inflating elite fart sniffer chemist you have a pretty low iq view of Vegas conspiracy truth, and also you must be a sort of a psycho yourself, based on the above. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69785662 United States 10/07/2019 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. "many completely agree with what he did, and would do the same thing if they could." OP you are mentally ill if you think so Vegas shooting was contrived bullshit bullets were not shot from paddock's location they were from drones and helicopter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69785662 United States 10/07/2019 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. But yes OP you upper class idiot of the year WB is fucking with us all because they know their people were involved of the lie of sandy hook, and also you are probably some nonce paid by them, so |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 9738904 United States 10/07/2019 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. it's kind of a Bernie Getz movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78062042 Bernie Getz was beaten up severely prior to his run in on the subway that left him handicapped. he then of course shot up those black people. in the movie of course, it's the evil rich white people no in real life it's not rich white people who abuse poor mentally ill whites. it's blacks, by a ration of one million to one. it's to make poor white males look pathetic and disgraceful and to make them think it's rich white people (their step dbrothers) who are their arch enemy. while the black female is his salvation. jesus black females are the WORSE most insidious racists, most of whites have no idea what acidic caustic racism of black females does to their lives. they use every bit of power they get at any job to ruin white men's lives, deny them opportunites, cause them trouble, it is fucking ridiculous, they have hijacked the entire social services meant to help us, that's why you see ZERO homeless blacks and hordes of homeless whites, because ONLY blacks get section 8 housing ,they hog everything whites gave to society and cost countless white people their LIVES with their ugly racism The worst enemy of all races, is the enemy WITHIN. In reality, (If you actually saw the movie), he barely has anything to do with the black female. 3 scenes at most? and no, she's not his salvation. He finally scares her so much, that she begs him to leave her and her daughter alone, and just stay the hell away. (The trailers make it seem as though she plays this huge role in the movie, when in reality, she's completely insignificant, and just happens to live in the same piece of shit apartment building that Arthur and his Mother live in. Don't for one second try to spin this around into something other than what it is. When Mexicans get chopped up into little pieces with chainsaws, or have their houses caught on fire with their kids inside, and are forced to watch them burn to death, who's responsible for that? When 70 African Americans get shot over a weekend in Chicago, who's responsible for that? And last but not least, when Stephen Paddock shot nearly 1000 of his own White People, killing 58, and crippling the rest for life, who was responsible for that? The enemy is within, and the problem is intellectual or dare I even say SPIRITUAL, not racial. Look at China, look at North Korea, look at Russia, and look at what happens/has happened to the people of all three countries. Who's doing it to them? THEIR OWN RACE. Look at World War 2, who was responsible for that, and who were ruthlessly killing each other by the Millions? Exactly. Don't try the divide and conquer racial tactics again, because it doesn't mirror the true situation in the world. Most races stick with each other, and when homicides occur, it's typically another member of the same race who did it, according to FBI statistics. "Hey yeah, you look like me, so I'm just going to let you abuse and rape me and do anything you want to me, because we look the same" Yeah............. No. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75322624 United States 10/07/2019 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. it's kind of a Bernie Getz movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78062042 Bernie Getz was beaten up severely prior to his run in on the subway that left him handicapped. he then of course shot up those black people. in the movie of course, it's the evil rich white people no in real life it's not rich white people who abuse poor mentally ill whites. it's blacks, by a ration of one million to one. it's to make poor white males look pathetic and disgraceful and to make them think it's rich white people (their step dbrothers) who are their arch enemy. while the black female is his salvation. jesus black females are the WORSE most insidious racists, most of whites have no idea what acidic caustic racism of black females does to their lives. they use every bit of power they get at any job to ruin white men's lives, deny them opportunites, cause them trouble, it is fucking ridiculous, they have hijacked the entire social services meant to help us, that's why you see ZERO homeless blacks and hordes of homeless whites, because ONLY blacks get section 8 housing ,they hog everything whites gave to society and cost countless white people their LIVES with their ugly racism The worst enemy of all races, is the enemy WITHIN. In reality, (If you actually saw the movie), he barely has anything to do with the black female. 3 scenes at most? and no, she's not his salvation. He finally scares her so much, that she begs him to leave her and her daughter alone, and just stay the hell away. (The trailers make it seem as though she plays this huge role in the movie, when in reality, she's completely insignificant, and just happens to live in the same piece of shit apartment building that Arthur and his Mother live in. Don't for one second try to spin this around into something other than what it is. When Mexicans get chopped up into little pieces with chainsaws, or have their houses caught on fire with their kids inside, and are forced to watch them burn to death, who's responsible for that? When 70 African Americans get shot over a weekend in Chicago, who's responsible for that? And last but not least, when Stephen Paddock shot nearly 1000 of his own White People, killing 58, and crippling the rest for life, who was responsible for that? The enemy is within, and the problem is intellectual or dare I even say SPIRITUAL, not racial. Look at China, look at North Korea, look at Russia, and look at what happens/has happened to the people of all three countries. Who's doing it to them? THEIR OWN RACE. Look at World War 2, who was responsible for that, and who were ruthlessly killing each other by the Millions? Exactly. Don't try the divide and conquer racial tactics again, because it doesn't mirror the true situation in the world. Most races stick with each other, and when homicides occur, it's typically another member of the same race who did it, according to FBI statistics. "Hey yeah, you look like me, so I'm just going to let you abuse and rape me and do anything you want to me, because we look the same" Yeah............. No. You already said you were leaving OP |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76130010 United States 10/07/2019 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. The General idea, is essentially that the Government is so corrupt, that "Hell, we'll just do whatever the fuck we want" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9738904 "If they can do it, so can we." This isn't a movie that should have been made at this point in time, and you'll see why in the near future. Well, it didn't take this film, a film few of the rejects of society will ever see, as they cannot go to movies and live in boxes by highways or in prisons, to provoke such behaviors. We have homeless folks by the thousands in cities and towns all across America, openly doing whatever the fuck they want and behaving as animals, with less decorum than animals at times. It's not an if or when, we are in it, the film must just be the reflection, not the instigator. I will never see nor subject myself to their mindless evil brainwash, you do yourself a disservice feeding their coffers paying for a ticket. When the good of society refuse to support the rot, it will slink away. Stop feeding the machine, do some good for those who they have marginalized... |
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User ID: 22956638 United Kingdom 10/07/2019 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. Arms and surveillance technologies are the real reason for this. Imagine the Palestinians overthrowing Israel. Not going to happen without outside help. Rather, what the elite might choose to do is incite sufficient atrocities to enable them to contain and enslave the masses. Such a process would take about 10 years, at an estimate. It is not enough to win. One must win with style. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73647379 Netherlands 10/07/2019 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. OP = SPOT ON You seem to be a highly intelligent, spiritual person. Forget the "insults" from their "viewpoint" (=NLP for the masses). Insults equals agenda. Intellectuals controlling the masses ? They do sport a different mindset (=unvaccinated). Your heart seems to be in the right place OP. SEAL. Thanks for your insight as it resonates. Take care. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75322624 United States 10/07/2019 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. OP = SPOT ON Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73647379 You seem to be a highly intelligent, spiritual person. Forget the "insults" from their "viewpoint" (=NLP for the masses). Insults equals agenda. Intellectuals controlling the masses ? They do sport a different mindset (=unvaccinated). Your heart seems to be in the right place OP. SEAL. Thanks for your insight as it resonates. Take care. He has glorified murderers... He is retarded |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73647379 Netherlands 10/07/2019 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. OP = SPOT ON Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73647379 You seem to be a highly intelligent, spiritual person. Forget the "insults" from their "viewpoint" (=NLP for the masses). Insults equals agenda. Intellectuals controlling the masses ? They do sport a different mindset (=unvaccinated). Your heart seems to be in the right place OP. SEAL. Thanks for your insight as it resonates. Take care. He has glorified murderers... Hmmm. You sure about that ? I actually didn't pick up on that. Silly Me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77673772 United States 10/07/2019 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. agreed. a crazy deranged lunatic doesnt have money to watch a bland movie. they would just go out buy food to eat. and eat it u pushing too hard. just maybe i dunno do something or do nothing. im not your mother. |
tamarack User ID: 77484958 United States 10/07/2019 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. Once the movie starts getting well along its way, Arthur becomes only a Microcosm within a Macrocosmic movement that he accidentally started. His work and leadership are no longer needed by the end of the movie, as he shows the way for everyone else like him, and empowers them to lead themselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9738904 'The Mob' becomes just as essential to the climax of the movie, as his own actions, and without them, he'd never have made it as far as he did. It's not one guy, one shooter, one disgruntled individual that you need to be concerned about, it's the MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of them out there who are going to say "Fuck this" Also, Joker doesn't kill people in any special ways, nor does the movie really promote 'Gun Violence'. A knife, a screwdriver, a pair of scissors, your granddaddies' old revolver, anything that does the job of spilling the blood of people that disgruntled individuals view to be the enemy. The guy is not tooled up with an arsenal of weaponry and a stockpile of money. He's POOR, he goes to a mental health clinic (That ends up getting shut down by the Government because they didn't want to finance it anymore) He's on 7 different psychiatric 'medications', and had already been 5150'd in a Psyche Hospital by the time you begin to get to know him as a person. You're not going to feel the actual impacts of this movie for a while, it's the kind of thing that causes latent and protracted chaos, not immediate. That is missing the entire relevance of the joker/trickster archetype in our society. You're only describing unfortunates who go off the deep end out of despair. The trickster is the one who doesn't know he is psychotic and who most likely believes his own lies. It represents the lying murderous leaders who wear the false persona of 'caring' but actually identify with their 'shadow'. It represents the people who are 'clowns' in life. They live a lie, and don't reveal their true identities; maybe even work secretly for the government, but are living under false pretenses, with hidden agendas and false identities. Such tricksters lead the masses into shared psychoses. It's difficult for people to avoid coming under the influence of such monsters, since we all have a shadow side. The words of the demagogue resonate with unconscious wishes from the collective Pandora's box known as the id. This is why the archetype of the trickster is relevant. More and more people are becoming aware of the "clown" shadow-complex that our world is suffering from. |
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User ID: 78058223 United States 10/07/2019 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. the movie is worth seeing once, but I don't give it a second time....as for being dangerous, well, I guess crazy doesn't need a good reason to be crazy...but this movie isn't a cause for violent crime. It's a story about a sad moma's boy, going crazy in the big city, wanting to do comedy for a living...in the middle of a shitty economy and shitty people. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75211114 United States 10/07/2019 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about. The General idea, is essentially that the Government is so corrupt, that "Hell, we'll just do whatever the fuck we want" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9738904 "If they can do it, so can we." This isn't a movie that should have been made at this point in time, and you'll see why in the near future. Actually now is the perfect time. |
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