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If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.

 
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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
The General idea, is essentially that the Government is so corrupt, that "Hell, we'll just do whatever the fuck we want"

"If they can do it, so can we."

This isn't a movie that should have been made at this point in time, and you'll see why in the near future.
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It's a movie that is very much needed at this point in time.
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Once the movie starts getting well along its way, Arthur becomes only a Microcosm within a Macrocosmic movement that he accidentally started. His work and leadership are no longer needed by the end of the movie, as he shows the way for everyone else like him, and empowers them to lead themselves.

'The Mob' becomes just as essential to the climax of the movie, as his own actions, and without them, he'd never have made it as far as he did.

It's not one guy, one shooter, one disgruntled individual that you need to be concerned about, it's the MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of them out there who are going to say "Fuck this"

Also, Joker doesn't kill people in any special ways, nor does the movie really promote 'Gun Violence'. A knife, a screwdriver, a pair of scissors, your granddaddies' old revolver, anything that does the job of spilling the blood of people that disgruntled individuals view to be the enemy.

The guy is not tooled up with an arsenal of weaponry and a stockpile of money. He's POOR, he goes to a mental health clinic (That ends up getting shut down by the Government because they didn't want to finance it anymore) He's on 7 different psychiatric 'medications', and had already been 5150'd in a Psyche Hospital by the time you begin to get to know him as a person.

You're not going to feel the actual impacts of this movie for a while, it's the kind of thing that causes latent and protracted chaos, not immediate.
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Is it set during Thomas Wayne's time period?
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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
The General idea, is essentially that the Government is so corrupt, that "Hell, we'll just do whatever the fuck we want"

"If they can do it, so can we."

This isn't a movie that should have been made at this point in time, and you'll see why in the near future.
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It's a movie that is very much needed at this point in time.
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A society that needs to make a movie like that at any point in time, gets what it fucking deserves.
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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
The General idea, is essentially that the Government is so corrupt, that "Hell, we'll just do whatever the fuck we want"

"If they can do it, so can we."

This isn't a movie that should have been made at this point in time, and you'll see why in the near future.
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It's a movie that is very much needed at this point in time.
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A society that needs to make a movie like that at any point in time, gets what it fucking deserves.
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And it will. It's not like things are ever going to get any better.
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The movie sounds like a typical case of Hollywood hypocrisy.

They condemn violence, hatred, rape, bloodshed, and guns, but load their movies up with the crap for the money, and agendas, which the programming serves.

Sounds like Hollywood is a Joker.
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There are no dangerous movies, only stupid people.
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Oh believe me, this is a dangerous movie. One of the most dangerous ever made.
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bump
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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
The movie sounds like a typical case of Hollywood hypocrisy.

They condemn violence, hatred, rape, bloodshed, and guns, but load their movies up with the crap for the money, and agendas, which the programming serves.

Sounds like Hollywood is a Joker.
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This.

As far as I got it.Movie was made with intent to trigger all sorts of stuff.
In the end it triggered only good box office and made good money.
And it seems MSM people and SJW's are rather disappointed, that nothing really happened.And that it means nothing more but decent movie.That is probably well received because others are such shit these days.

Just look how they destroyed Star Wars franchise.

incredible.
What an mindset.
Completely delusional, incompetent and vile.
And they dare to call others dangerous?

amazing. :)
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No one liked or loved him. He found attention after killing while defending himself. He enjoyed that attention.
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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
First of all, 'Joker' in this specific iteration of who is he (Arthur Fleck in this case) is a metaphor for "The Anomaly" and how he/it really operates and got us here.

Even a disgruntled individual who may have planned to do a mass shooting in a theater, would have dropped that idea within the first 15 minutes of the movie, since they would end up relating to this guy.

Heath Ledger's depiction of "The Joker" was really, well, a joke in comparison to Joaquin Phoenix's depiction of the Joker. There's no big explosions, no elaborate operations, none of Heath Ledger's bullshit, just an organic reaction to a set of actions that required minimal effort besides the will to kill.

It's a gritty realistic film with ZERO CGI, a backdrop of a system that doesn't care about the poor and those who've fallen between the cracks of society, and gives inspiration to those who have to GO OUT INTO THE REAL WORLD, and get their piece of revenge.

Sure, Liberal Democrats, Center Democrats, Independents, Liberal Republicans, Center Republicans, Conservatives and Far Right Republicans all went to see the movie. There's something you need to know though.

There are no heros in Joker, nobody coming to save the day, only a mentally ill man who has been pushed to the brink, and eventually inadvertently starts a MOVEMENT based on actions that aligned with the ideals of others like himself in society.

It's this which makes it a dangerous movie.
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I'VE READ YOUR STUFF BELOW TOO..IT IS ALL ACCURATE...IT IS THE TIMING OF THE RELEASE....NO ACCIDENTE'....I SAW IT IN THE 1ST AND DID A THREAD THE NEXT DAY OR SO LATER..

I'LL RE SPIN IT NOW..
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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
No one liked or loved him. He found attention after killing while defending himself. He enjoyed that attention.
 Quoting: Deplorable Xeven


THIS TOO...!

HE DID HAVE LOVE FROM HIS MOTHER...BUT, AS YOU FIND OUT...SHE WAS 'NOT WELL' AND REALLY REALLY 'WRONGED' HIM IN 'SEVERAL' WAYS...SO, THAT LOVE WAS....EVENTUALLY...

...FULLY SUBTRACTED..AND 'WORTHLESS'! BEST I CAN COME UP WITH AT THE MOMENT.

I'VE SEEN IT 4 TIMES NOW...BUT SLEPT THRU MOST OF IT THE LAST TIME..
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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
No one liked or loved him. He found attention after killing while defending himself. He enjoyed that attention.
 Quoting: Deplorable Xeven


THIS TOO...!

HE DID HAVE LOVE FROM HIS MOTHER...BUT, AS YOU FIND OUT...SHE WAS 'NOT WELL' AND REALLY REALLY 'WRONGED' HIM IN 'SEVERAL' WAYS...SO, THAT LOVE WAS....EVENTUALLY...

...FULLY SUBTRACTED..AND 'WORTHLESS'! BEST I CAN COME UP WITH AT THE MOMENT.

I'VE SEEN IT 4 TIMES NOW...BUT SLEPT THRU MOST OF IT THE LAST TIME..
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It is interpretation of fictional character from a comic book Batman?

:)

Incredible..leaves one completely as scientists would say.
Mesmerised and baffled.

What is wrong with you people?

haha
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Only the weak will see this as an invitation. If they bring violence my way I'll show them how it's done. I seen the movie and wasn't impressed.
I lost my apathy.
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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
No one liked or loved him. He found attention after killing while defending himself. He enjoyed that attention.
 Quoting: Deplorable Xeven


THIS TOO...!

HE DID HAVE LOVE FROM HIS MOTHER...BUT, AS YOU FIND OUT...SHE WAS 'NOT WELL' AND REALLY REALLY 'WRONGED' HIM IN 'SEVERAL' WAYS...SO, THAT LOVE WAS....EVENTUALLY...

...FULLY SUBTRACTED..AND 'WORTHLESS'! BEST I CAN COME UP WITH AT THE MOMENT.

I'VE SEEN IT 4 TIMES NOW...BUT SLEPT THRU MOST OF IT THE LAST TIME..
 Quoting: UH 77610696


It is interpretation of fictional character from a comic book Batman?

:)

Incredible..leaves one completely as scientists would say.
Mesmerised and baffled.

What is wrong with you people?

haha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


..that's what COMIC BOOKS DO....ESP. THE 'ORIGIN' STORIES.

LIKE THIS ONE!
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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
No one liked or loved him. He found attention after killing while defending himself. He enjoyed that attention.
 Quoting: Deplorable Xeven


THIS TOO...!

HE DID HAVE LOVE FROM HIS MOTHER...BUT, AS YOU FIND OUT...SHE WAS 'NOT WELL' AND REALLY REALLY 'WRONGED' HIM IN 'SEVERAL' WAYS...SO, THAT LOVE WAS....EVENTUALLY...

...FULLY SUBTRACTED..AND 'WORTHLESS'! BEST I CAN COME UP WITH AT THE MOMENT.

I'VE SEEN IT 4 TIMES NOW...BUT SLEPT THRU MOST OF IT THE LAST TIME..
 Quoting: UH 77610696


It is interpretation of fictional character from a comic book Batman?

:)

Incredible..leaves one completely as scientists would say.
Mesmerised and baffled.

What is wrong with you people?

haha
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..that's what COMIC BOOKS DO....ESP. THE 'ORIGIN' STORIES.

LIKE THIS ONE!
 Quoting: UH 77610696


What comic books do?Yeah fairy tales do that too.
Do you identify as snowwhite or perhaps one those little ones?

haha
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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
So Fleck realized "climate change" is real and started putting on lots of sunblock...and this led to the Joker. Nice.
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His work and leadership are no longer needed by the end of the movie, as he shows the way for everyone else like him, and empowers them to lead themselves.
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rarely agree w/clyde, but I liked his review
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rarely agree w/clyde, but I liked his review
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I HEARD IT TO...HE WAS DEAD ON!
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THIS TOO...!

HE DID HAVE LOVE FROM HIS MOTHER...BUT, AS YOU FIND OUT...SHE WAS 'NOT WELL' AND REALLY REALLY 'WRONGED' HIM IN 'SEVERAL' WAYS...SO, THAT LOVE WAS....EVENTUALLY...

...FULLY SUBTRACTED..AND 'WORTHLESS'! BEST I CAN COME UP WITH AT THE MOMENT.

I'VE SEEN IT 4 TIMES NOW...BUT SLEPT THRU MOST OF IT THE LAST TIME..
 Quoting: UH 77610696


It is interpretation of fictional character from a comic book Batman?

:)

Incredible..leaves one completely as scientists would say.
Mesmerised and baffled.

What is wrong with you people?

haha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


..that's what COMIC BOOKS DO....ESP. THE 'ORIGIN' STORIES.

LIKE THIS ONE!
 Quoting: UH 77610696


What comic books do?Yeah fairy tales do that too.
Do you identify as snowwhite or perhaps one those little ones?

haha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


YEAH, IM THE 8TH DWARF...'RESENTFUL'...GOT CUT OUT OF THE MOVIES AND WAS NOT PAID...AXK ME HOW I FEEL?....
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There are no dangerous movies, only stupid people.
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Oh believe me, this is a dangerous movie. One of the most dangerous ever made.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9738904


BS.
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Its a celebration of the underdog and him having his vengeance on a worthless society.
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Nothing wrong with a good underdog gets his revenge movie.

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It is interpretation of fictional character from a comic book Batman?

:)

Incredible..leaves one completely as scientists would say.
Mesmerised and baffled.

What is wrong with you people?

haha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


..that's what COMIC BOOKS DO....ESP. THE 'ORIGIN' STORIES.

LIKE THIS ONE!
 Quoting: UH 77610696


What comic books do?Yeah fairy tales do that too.
Do you identify as snowwhite or perhaps one those little ones?

haha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


YEAH, IM THE 8TH DWARF...'RESENTFUL'...GOT CUT OUT OF THE MOVIES AND WAS NOT PAID...AXK ME HOW I FEEL?....
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cruise
5a

That's the spirit.

:) coool.
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The real joker can give batman a run for his money if they ever threw down
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..that's what COMIC BOOKS DO....ESP. THE 'ORIGIN' STORIES.

LIKE THIS ONE!
 Quoting: UH 77610696


What comic books do?Yeah fairy tales do that too.
Do you identify as snowwhite or perhaps one those little ones?

haha
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


YEAH, IM THE 8TH DWARF...'RESENTFUL'...GOT CUT OUT OF THE MOVIES AND WAS NOT PAID...AXK ME HOW I FEEL?....
 Quoting: cap man 77610696


cruise
5a

That's the spirit.

:) coool.
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I think Dave Chapelle movie is much much closer to the reality.
And it is real humour, real jokes.You know the ones with truth in it.



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Under that purple suit he's not just skin and bones
He's ripped
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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
I seen the movie and wasn't impressed.
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I saw.

pick
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If they bring violence my way I'll show them how it's done.
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uhoh

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Re: If you actually SAW "Joker" you'd know it's not someone shooting up a theater that anyone needs to be worried about.
Only the weak will see this as an invitation. If they bring violence my way I'll show them how it's done. I seen the movie and wasn't impressed.
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I saw it too. It wasn't that good. Didn't live up to the hype.





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