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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33132117 Australia 11/11/2019 05:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your friends, hate your enemies.’ 44 But now I tell you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may become the children of your Father in heaven. For he makes his sun to shine on bad and good people alike, and gives rain to those who do good and to those who do evil. 46 Why should God reward you if you love only the people who love you? Even the tax collectors do that! 47 And if you speak only to your friends, have you done anything out of the ordinary? Even the pagans do that! 48 You must be perfect—just as your Father in heaven is perfect. (Matthew 5:43-48) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4452677 United States 11/11/2019 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your friends, hate your enemies.’ 44 But now I tell you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may become the children of your Father in heaven. For he makes his sun to shine on bad and good people alike, and gives rain to those who do good and to those who do evil. 46 Why should God reward you if you love only the people who love you? Even the tax collectors do that! 47 And if you speak only to your friends, have you done anything out of the ordinary? Even the pagans do that! 48 You must be perfect—just as your Father in heaven is perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33132117 (Matthew 5:43-48) Your entire new testament is a literal curse to me and a prison. Never quote this garbage again. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49292890 United States 11/11/2019 05:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your friends, hate your enemies.’ 44 But now I tell you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may become the children of your Father in heaven. For he makes his sun to shine on bad and good people alike, and gives rain to those who do good and to those who do evil. 46 Why should God reward you if you love only the people who love you? Even the tax collectors do that! 47 And if you speak only to your friends, have you done anything out of the ordinary? Even the pagans do that! 48 You must be perfect—just as your Father in heaven is perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33132117 (Matthew 5:43-48) And here you have the OT denouncing Jesus' teaching as shameful & murderous!--> << 2 Samuel 19 >> 5 And Joab came into the house to the king, and said, Thou hast shamed this day the faces of all thy servants, which this day have saved thy life, and the lives of thy sons and of thy daughters, and the lives of thy wives, and the lives of thy concubines; 6 In that thou lovest thine enemies, and hatest thy friends. For thou hast declared this day, that thou regardest neither princes nor servants: for this day I perceive, that if Absalom had lived, and all we had died this day, then it had pleased thee well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4452677 United States 11/11/2019 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your friends, hate your enemies.’ 44 But now I tell you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may become the children of your Father in heaven. For he makes his sun to shine on bad and good people alike, and gives rain to those who do good and to those who do evil. 46 Why should God reward you if you love only the people who love you? Even the tax collectors do that! 47 And if you speak only to your friends, have you done anything out of the ordinary? Even the pagans do that! 48 You must be perfect—just as your Father in heaven is perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33132117 (Matthew 5:43-48) And here you have the OT denouncing Jesus' teaching as shameful & murderous!--> << 2 Samuel 19 >> 5 And Joab came into the house to the king, and said, Thou hast shamed this day the faces of all thy servants, which this day have saved thy life, and the lives of thy sons and of thy daughters, and the lives of thy wives, and the lives of thy concubines; 6 In that thou lovest thine enemies, and hatest thy friends. For thou hast declared this day, that thou regardest neither princes nor servants: for this day I perceive, that if Absalom had lived, and all we had died this day, then it had pleased thee well. David, did you write it before Bethlehem or after? And how much acid did you take? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49292890 United States 11/11/2019 05:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your friends, hate your enemies.’ 44 But now I tell you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may become the children of your Father in heaven. For he makes his sun to shine on bad and good people alike, and gives rain to those who do good and to those who do evil. 46 Why should God reward you if you love only the people who love you? Even the tax collectors do that! 47 And if you speak only to your friends, have you done anything out of the ordinary? Even the pagans do that! 48 You must be perfect—just as your Father in heaven is perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33132117 (Matthew 5:43-48) Your entire new testament is a literal curse to me and a prison. Never quote this garbage again. Yes, christinsanity is a mind-virus & a prison for your mind! What helped me free myself from its bondage was realizing how absurd & stupid the whole thing was. Namely, the 'unforgivable sin' b.s. - a sin so horrible nothing can help you - Jesus won't forgive you & you'll go straight to hell - for having a bad thought! You can rape & murder & Jesus will forgive that but not a thought crime! Horseshit! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76026796 Slovakia 11/11/2019 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why doesn't God love his enemies? Because that would be insane? Yet, that's what he wants us to do? Quoting: do as i say not as i do! 49292890 What is there to be loved about: But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." Revelation 21:8 |
SocialEnigma User ID: 77835141 Canada 11/11/2019 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YES He will punish them and whoever else swears enmity between them and him or His followers. But His mercy can extend to them, and with what I said before in mind; it does! What you're really asking is "Why doesn't He just let us do whatever we want and there's no recompense?". Because He is HOLY above all else; that's what He wanted the Israelites to uphold; for His sake and theirs. To witness to the rest of us His Testament. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77170338 United States 11/11/2019 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why doesn't God love his enemies? Because that would be insane? Yet, that's what he wants us to do? Quoting: do as i say not as i do! 49292890 James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. John 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76026796 Slovakia 11/11/2019 06:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If He didn't love them; He wouldn't let the sun shine on them, nor the rain to fall on them. Quoting: SocialEnigma 77835141 YES He will punish them and whoever else swears enmity between them and him or His followers. But His mercy can extend to them, and with what I said before in mind; it does! What you're really asking is "Why doesn't He just let us do whatever we want and there's no recompense?". Because He is HOLY above all else; that's what He wanted the Israelites to uphold; for His sake and theirs. To witness to the rest of us His Testament. God cares about the world They created: The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small-- and for destroying those who destroy the earth." Revelation 11:18 |
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User ID: 52542901 South Africa 11/11/2019 06:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD LOVES EVERYONE UNCONDITIONALLY. It's His enemies that don't love Him. The ignorant that deny Him, should be forgiven for it because in their denial they don't know what they're doing. His enemies...they should be pitied and prayed for. The misguided innocents should be guided by the wise but , in the end, no man, no book, no institution, are a better guide than God within...if only people knew where to look and listen. What you seek, you already have. In the final reckoning each can only help and save themself while through it all God always loves them. Last Edited by WhiteFly on 11/11/2019 06:10 AM Thread: Short, and some longer, Thoughts Thread: The True History of Africa and South Africa Experience is the best education. Some are just slow learners. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4452677 United States 11/11/2019 06:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why doesn't God love his enemies? Because that would be insane? Yet, that's what he wants us to do? Quoting: do as i say not as i do! 49292890 God wants you to love yourself enough to realize that you do not need a verbal admission of love from something that you could not exist in without being loved. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 49292890 United States 11/11/2019 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD LOVES EVERYONE UNCONDITIONALLY. It's His enemies that don't love Him. Quoting: WhiteFly The ignorant that deny Him, should be forgiven for it because in their denial they don't know what they're doing. His enemies...they should be pitied and prayed for. The misguided innocents should be guided by the wise but , in the end, no man, no book, no institution, are a better guide than God within...if only people knew where to look and listen. What you seek, you already have. In the final reckoning each can only help and save themself while through it all God always loves them. God will torment his 'enemies' (i.e. those who didn't believe in him or didn't kiss his ass hard enough) for all eternity! That's not love! Jesus tells us to forgive our trespassers yet he won't forgive those who 'deny' (or simply never heard of him!) - those he will send to eternal torment! No love, compassion, forgiveness after you die - just neverending pain & torment! This is 'love'? GTFOH! |
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User ID: 77872280 Canada 11/11/2019 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD LOVES EVERYONE UNCONDITIONALLY. It's His enemies that don't love Him. Quoting: WhiteFly The ignorant that deny Him, should be forgiven for it because in their denial they don't know what they're doing. His enemies...they should be pitied and prayed for. The misguided innocents should be guided by the wise but , in the end, no man, no book, no institution, are a better guide than God within...if only people knew where to look and listen. What you seek, you already have. In the final reckoning each can only help and save themself while through it all God always loves them. God will torment his 'enemies' (i.e. those who didn't believe in him or didn't kiss his ass hard enough) for all eternity! That's not love! Jesus tells us to forgive our trespassers yet he won't forgive those who 'deny' (or simply never heard of him!) - those he will send to eternal torment! No love, compassion, forgiveness after you die - just neverending pain & torment! This is 'love'? GTFOH! your question is valid.....it is your answer that is inaccurate. you ask a question AGAINST your present misunderstanding of God....then you answer based on what others teach/taught you concerning God....or from a position of misunderstanding FOR God. YOU ARE GOD.....one of The Elohim. You are your own enemy.......love yourself, much? Ignorance is NOT rewarded.....it is guided. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78150517 United States 11/11/2019 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who ever said God has to live by the same rules that He gives to us? Do human parents even have to live by the rules they give their own kids? Of course not. No one cares when children are required to be in bed by 8 at night, but the adults get to stay up as late as they want. That's not hypocritical of the parents, it's just good parenting. You might have a rule in the house that guns are completely off limits for children and touching one would bring instant punishment, but the adult in the house can touch their guns any time they want. How hypocritical they must be huh? How much more of a difference is there between humans and God? Its a pretty foolish argument to imply that God's words and expectations for us are meaningless just because He doesn't have to live by them as well. The reason He is able to do things we can not do is because it is almost impossible for humans to ever be truly just in what they do, so we are denied the right to do certain things in life and perform certain actions. God cares about motivations more than actions. He is the only one that can see the motivations behind what people do, so He is the only one that can rightfully judge it. |
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User ID: 76832232 United States 11/11/2019 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of the OT ‘Lord God’ stories are based on Baal and Baal worship, not the same God that led Moses and the Israelites out of Egypt. Ezra had to collect history from Egyptian and Babylonian archives, because nothing was left in Judah and Israel after being conquered and destroyed, and compiling them in a book. That’s also why there are different names for God in the OT. It’s like collecting a history of the US hundreds of years after its destruction using only the records kept by other countries like Russia, China, Europe. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75583697 United States 11/11/2019 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why doesn't God love his enemies? Because that would be insane? Yet, that's what he wants us to do? Quoting: do as i say not as i do! 49292890 Relax, there are no gods,just people hoping they can be immortal. Their is no other reason to throw out reason and logic. As they say you must have faith. This the reason for believing in god(s). Believe something absent good reason to believe. Using that standard you could believe anything and they do. Remember the loving God who will torture you for eternity if you do not worship it? I dated a few women like that but only once. |
SOL-EDiFiED SOURCE 717 User ID: 22001225 United States 11/11/2019 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why doesn't God love his enemies? Because that would be insane? Yet, that's what he wants us to do? Quoting: do as i say not as i do! 49292890 Relax, there are no gods,just people hoping they can be immortal. Their is no other reason to throw out reason and logic. As they say you must have faith. This the reason for believing in god(s). Believe something absent good reason to believe. Using that standard you could believe anything and they do. Remember the loving God who will torture you for eternity if you do not worship it? I dated a few women like that but only once. says the man living in a world that he did not create and do not know who did...lol |
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User ID: 37675160 South Africa 11/11/2019 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD LOVES EVERYONE UNCONDITIONALLY. It's His enemies that don't love Him. Quoting: WhiteFly The ignorant that deny Him, should be forgiven for it because in their denial they don't know what they're doing. His enemies...they should be pitied and prayed for. The misguided innocents should be guided by the wise but , in the end, no man, no book, no institution, are a better guide than God within...if only people knew where to look and listen. What you seek, you already have. In the final reckoning each can only help and save themself while through it all God always loves them. God will torment his 'enemies' (i.e. those who didn't believe in him or didn't kiss his ass hard enough) for all eternity! That's not love! Jesus tells us to forgive our trespassers yet he won't forgive those who 'deny' (or simply never heard of him!) - those he will send to eternal torment! No love, compassion, forgiveness after you die - just neverending pain & torment! This is 'love'? GTFOH! Do you believe in a hell? If you do then you believe in nothing because there's no such thing. God is love and mercy. He doesn't judge, he doesn't take sides and he certainly does not torment, punish or condemn. That's a myth concocted by so-called "spiritual leaders" in order to keep their followers in line with fear. God does not do fear. The saying "God-fearing" is blatantly wrong. Why would you fear God? Name me one plausible reason because as much as I've studied and contemplated thus far I haven't found one. No, the only torments are the ones inflicted by humans on other humans and on themselves. God's not responsible for anyone's pain because God doesn't make anyone do anything. He doesn't force. What we do, we do from free will choice. God only watches and guides from within when he is allowed to but otherwise He minds his own business...until you decide to make His business your business. When that happens you'll discover that the greatest torment of God is being without God and that it was entirely your fault. Thread: Short, and some longer, Thoughts Thread: The True History of Africa and South Africa Experience is the best education. Some are just slow learners. |
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User ID: 41024153 Canada 11/11/2019 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why doesn't God love his enemies? Because that would be insane? Yet, that's what he wants us to do? Quoting: do as i say not as i do! 49292890 maybe ya wanna look at John 3:16 and the surrounding context as well as John 15:13 and surrounding context ... . But God proves His love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. ... oh hai! |
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