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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78216637 France 01/25/2020 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Granted im not a virologist and my virology is very very rusty. I need to clear some stuff up thats been bugging, me though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344784 People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died, thats not how it works at all. 950+ of those cases still have to recover. If a virus infects 10 people and within a week 1 person dies, it doesnt mean the virus has a fatality rate of 10%, it just means currently 10% have died, the other 9 still have to fully recover. So in the next few weeks we will know if this is worse than what the State media is reporting? Also will N95 construction masks protect against this virus? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73848670 Canada 01/25/2020 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Granted im not a virologist and my virology is very very rusty. I need to clear some stuff up thats been bugging, me though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344784 People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died, thats not how it works at all. 950+ of those cases still have to recover. If a virus infects 10 people and within a week 1 person dies, it doesnt mean the virus has a fatality rate of 10%, it just means currently 10% have died, the other 9 still have to fully recover. Bringing some sanity to this discussion. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the reason there are flu shots, as influenza is generally easier to vaccinate for, coronona viruses involved in the common cold such as alphacorona virus 299 mutate pretty rapidly. so its difficult to vaccinate against. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not 100% no, but its tons better than nothing and your open airways, its already been covered by others in threads. the virus is much smaller in size than the filter can filter out but generally speaking virons will be attached to what are called fomites, which will be water droplets and such spreading by coughs sneezing, hands to door handles etc. practice of asceptic technique and covering your eyes, mouth and not touching your face will help massively especially if you dont shake hands, touch objects such as surfaces. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont know thats why im paying serious attention to whats going on, some epidemiologists are suggesting this has an r0 ( reproduction rate ) above 3.5 which is significant as thats above the common cold, how many people do you know who have had the common cold around you in the past few months? I has me concerned and worried, but im not freaking out too much right now, the next week weeks are interesting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65038713 United States 01/25/2020 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Granted im not a virologist and my virology is very very rusty. I need to clear some stuff up thats been bugging, me though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344784 People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died, thats not how it works at all. 950+ of those cases still have to recover. If a virus infects 10 people and within a week 1 person dies, it doesnt mean the virus has a fatality rate of 10%, it just means currently 10% have died, the other 9 still have to fully recover. prove you're not BS who engineered Escherichia coli O104:H4 ? |
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User ID: 76135017 United States 01/25/2020 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems there is word now that they are closing travel to Beijing. That would be a tipping point in my opinion. DOOM is here! Truth and Facts - The two words liberals hate most! Suffering is burning emotional energy on the uncontrollable! The architect of the universe did not build a stairway to nowhere! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You talking about the lateral gene transfer in that strain, yeah thats pretty creepy. I can understand why people would suspect that was engineered. That would be way above my pay grade tbh, i just had a functional technicians role as a bacteriologist, i did work briefly with bacteriophage viruses, but principally my work was with common harmless strains of bacteria used for testing. Bacteria do similar things by plasmid transfer it called Bacterial conjugation. I'm a decade out from even touching a virus at this point or reading a textbook. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems there is word now that they are closing travel to Beijing. That would be a tipping point in my opinion. Quoting: Always Looking DOOM is here! I'm watching the ports/airports, what are the biggest export/inport ports in china, shanghai, shenzen and quingdao? Are they closing the ports, that would hit the world economy hard, that would seem like the last ditch effort. |
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User ID: 77944041 United States 01/25/2020 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not 100% no, but its tons better than nothing and your open airways, its already been covered by others in threads. the virus is much smaller in size than the filter can filter out but generally speaking virons will be attached to what are called fomites, which will be water droplets and such spreading by coughs sneezing, hands to door handles etc. practice of asceptic technique and covering your eyes, mouth and not touching your face will help massively especially if you dont shake hands, touch objects such as surfaces. Someone better warn Zakk... |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Without going off on a tangent, i never bought the idea that HIV wasnt introduced into humans by way of using simian kidneys as growth medium for polio vaccine culture in the 50s in africa. It was said by reputable accademics that it was a conspiracy theory and disproven, but i 100% think big pharma fucked up and accidentally introduced simian immunodeficiency virus into humans, i cant prove that at all and it is speculation but i guess they'd be on the hook for billions in compensation, it would be worse than the tobacco companies liability. For anybody not familiar with what im talking about, there were research papers (that were later disproven) that suggested that HIV started because a vaccination program in africa in the 50s used monkey kidneys to culture polio vaccine, it was speculatin these monkey kidneys contained SIV the monkey version of hiv, and thats how HIV started in people. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57700421 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Without going off on a tangent, i never bought the idea that HIV wasnt introduced into humans by way of using simian kidneys as growth medium for polio vaccine culture in the 50s in africa. It was said by reputable accademics that it was a conspiracy theory and disproven, but i 100% think big pharma fucked up and accidentally introduced simian immunodeficiency virus into humans, i cant prove that at all and it is speculation but i guess they'd be on the hook for billions in compensation, it would be worse than the tobacco companies liability. For anybody not familiar with what im talking about, there were research papers (that were later disproven) that suggested that HIV started because a vaccination program in africa in the 50s used monkey kidneys to culture polio vaccine, it was speculatin these monkey kidneys contained SIV the monkey version of hiv, and thats how HIV started in people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78387625 Canada 01/25/2020 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344784 Should say /100 Well for a start, you are not a microbiologist because that is wrong. The basic reproduction number, R0, of an infection is the number of cases one case generates on average over the course of its infectious period, in an otherwise uninfected population. So if R0=3.8, then for each infected person, we can expect another 3.8 people to become infected. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78344784 United Kingdom 01/25/2020 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | prior to the ebola thing, id say a 5 or 6, but im being cautious now so id say 3-4 and remaining hopefull that like sars or ebola this might burn out, its looking like its pretty contagious though. Im mildly worried, but not extremely concerned, next few weeks will change that. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77611324 United States 01/25/2020 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Granted im not a virologist and my virology is very very rusty. I need to clear some stuff up thats been bugging, me though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344784 People keep stating that the fatality rate of this virus is for example 3.9% because 39/1000 cases have died, thats not how it works at all. 950+ of those cases still have to recover. If a virus infects 10 people and within a week 1 person dies, it doesnt mean the virus has a fatality rate of 10%, it just means currently 10% have died, the other 9 still have to fully recover. Isn't it true that colidol nano silver can kill any virus , bacteria fungus? |
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Metal-American User ID: 73836248 United States 01/25/2020 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why does grass grow in the fucking concrete on my driveway but I still have bare patches on my lawn? Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74432610 United States 01/25/2020 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | not 100% no, but its tons better than nothing and your open airways, its already been covered by others in threads. the virus is much smaller in size than the filter can filter out but generally speaking virons will be attached to what are called fomites, which will be water droplets and such spreading by coughs sneezing, hands to door handles etc. practice of asceptic technique and covering your eyes, mouth and not touching your face will help massively especially if you dont shake hands, touch objects such as surfaces. Maybe this is why face touching bothered Zakk so much. We all thought he was crazy. But he was trying to warn us. |