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Do you believe in demons?

 
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As an atheist I do not, although recently learned something intriguing to me. I am a direct descendant of Valentin Fleischmann. Also know as the fallen priest. Also, in the movie the exorcism of Emily Rose, which was based on the real exorcism of Anneliese Michele, he was one of the demons that had possessed her.

Even in my years as a theist I never believes demons to be real. Also I hate the argument that if it’s in the Bible it must be real. You cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible.

Does anyone have any experience, evidence of demons existing ? Feelings do not count as evidence, neither do dreams or visions for these can not be proven
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As an atheist I do.
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Does anyone have any experience, evidence of demons existing ? Feelings do not count as evidence, neither do dreams or visions for these can not be proven
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Does anyone have any experience, evidence of demons existing ? Feelings do not count as evidence, neither do dreams or visions for these can not be proven
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I had that happen to me when I was a child and it was a terrifying experience
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Problem here is that the word "demon" is used for a myriad of things. But if you mean beings that can take control of a person's physical body, well yes i believe in them.
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Yes right here, he signed a written affidavit before leaving.

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Of course not. chuckle

Any mortal act can be chalked up to human nature/mental illness and any picture or video CGI and any story a fabrication. I'd stop looking for proof of them if I were you, OP.
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i believe in The Great Gazoo
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Look up the Qliphoth. Demons are basically a primitive interpretation for the dissolutive, destructive and diseased aspects of reality, existence, the mind, death, etc.
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Yes.

I believe in the Creator God, but don't subscribe to any religion.

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Some demons are dyslexic... yep

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Angels and demons, 2 sides of the same thing.
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Problem here is that the word "demon" is used for a myriad of things. But if you mean beings that can take control of a person's physical body, well yes i believe in them.
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I believe humans use them as a convenient scapegoat
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Yes right here, he signed a written affidavit before leaving.

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Of course not. chuckle

Any mortal act can be chalked up to human nature/mental illness and any picture or video CGI and any story a fabrication. I'd stop looking for proof of them if I were you, OP.
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The physical effects are brought about by less physical causes. We can say the brainwaves suddenly started to behave abnormally in the case of a possessed person, but what caused it? Scientist can scan other physical causes for the anomaly, maybe even up to an atomic level, but there is a point where our physical instruments can no longer explain the cause and if they could, they would reveal a whole other level of intelligent existence.
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Re: Do you believe in demons?
Demons do exist

They are evil spiritual beings

Signs your home is haunted by a demon

You might experience one or more of the following:

Strange sounds: footsteps, doors opening and closing, whispers, faint screams or moaning, white noise, or electronic interference.

Strange sights: shadows in your peripheral vision, flickering lights and electronics, objects seeming to switch places/positions when your back is turned, figures in the dark, etc.

Strange feelings: a feeling of being watched, a feeling that something is "wrong", feeling like someone has been in your house or building, inexplicable wafts of cold air, goosebumps, and the feeling of being touched by an invisible hand.

Strange smells: perfume, food smells, sulfur, and bad odors.

As the demon gains energy and begins to manifest more easily, all of these signs will increase and intensify, and you might also begin to experience these things:

recurrent nightmares on a weekly or nightly basis, depending upon the severity

phantom-mania: a feeling of being held down in bed, and then upon waking, discovering unexplained bruises or scratches on one's body

a general feeling of discomfort or dread, not being able to fully settle down in one's own home or environment

negativity between family members or friends increases and lead to arguments, fights, and general discord

a spirit begins to show itself to a member of the home or environment. Often, these demons center their focus on one particular person and this can sometimes be a child. They will appear to a child often as a nice entity. If an otherwise normal child becomes withdrawn and has an "imaginary friend," this is a BIG sign

religious objects will be destroyed or inexplicably lost, e.g. crucifix, bible, rosaries, etc.
entire homes or rooms are ransacked, though nothing has been taken

you find writing on walls or other places in the building

Signs will differ depending on the severity of the haunting and he type of demon that has attached itself to the household or property. Keeping a log or journal of all of the experiences will possibly help in identifying the type of haunting you have.

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As an atheist I do not, although recently learned something intriguing to me. I am a direct descendant of Valentin Fleischmann. Also know as the fallen priest. Also, in the movie the exorcism of Emily Rose, which was based on the real exorcism of Anneliese Michele, he was one of the demons that had possessed her.

Even in my years as a theist I never believes demons to be real. Also I hate the argument that if it’s in the Bible it must be real. You cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible.

Does anyone have any experience, evidence of demons existing ? Feelings do not count as evidence, neither do dreams or visions for these can not be proven
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How can an atheist "believe" in anything? Good or evil.

Atheists are stuck in the material world. This realm.
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or you could engage in shit ass tribalism and gaslight the fuck out of some relatives in the hopes you could get them to sell their neighboring adjoining farmlands, you know declared incompetent. that's daemonic behavior, greed driven shite OP
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As an atheist I do not, although recently learned something intriguing to me. I am a direct descendant of Valentin Fleischmann. Also know as the fallen priest. Also, in the movie the exorcism of Emily Rose, which was based on the real exorcism of Anneliese Michele, he was one of the demons that had possessed her.

Even in my years as a theist I never believes demons to be real. Also I hate the argument that if it’s in the Bible it must be real. You cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible.

Does anyone have any experience, evidence of demons existing ? Feelings do not count as evidence, neither do dreams or visions for these can not be proven
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Demons are real. Proving demonics exist to a natural man (non-spiritual) is nearly impossible. However, nature leaves other means of reaching this truth to those who are merely natural. All layers in nature from the natural to the spiritual and onto the sublime parallel one another. And because of this, analogies help us understand all truths at the level we reside. Demons are psychotic behaviors humans exhibit. A man raping a baby is a demon based on the behavior. So I say this to you, atheist, look not beyond human behavior if you want to see demons.

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Even if they exist they can't compare to the evil a human being is capable of.
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I believe there is some kind of evil that can possess someone. Not everyone who does evil is possessed. Most of the time it's mental illness. It's on a case by case basis.
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...@ the internet...1..."DEMONS" ARE REAL AND THEY "POSSESS" HUMANS...THEY CAUSE HUMANS TO COMMIT CRIMES AND GO TO JAIL...2...EARLIER TONIGHT THOUSANDS OF HUMANS WERE "POSSESSED BY DEMONS"...AND...SOME WENT TO JAIL...@ youtube PROTESTERS JUMP TURNSTILES, TAG SUBWAYS ... hidingburnit
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As an atheist I do not, although recently learned something intriguing to me. I am a direct descendant of Valentin Fleischmann. Also know as the fallen priest. Also, in the movie the exorcism of Emily Rose, which was based on the real exorcism of Anneliese Michele, he was one of the demons that had possessed her.

Even in my years as a theist I never believes demons to be real. Also I hate the argument that if it’s in the Bible it must be real. You cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible.

Does anyone have any experience, evidence of demons existing ? Feelings do not count as evidence, neither do dreams or visions for these can not be proven
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How can an atheist "believe" in anything? Good or evil.

Atheists are stuck in the material world. This realm.
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There is always things we dont know.
To believe into something is not what Atheists do.
Instead that drawer is just empty, like the question if god exists or not.

Atheists dont know and here comes the point, Atheists feel selfresponsible about what is going on. With that, we can create our world and we can even create life.
This kind of selfresponsibility leads to something like, we are the gods we pray to.

Have a look at the casual prayer.
Give us this, give us that, make this, make that, do your job for us. Thats the message, a believer sends to his god day by day.

So believers seem to be very demanding and commanding their god, to do things for them. They beg instead of make him proud. They crawl in the dirt, his own creations go down into the dirt to pray all those demands.
Really, how can a big father, a creator be proud on such behavior ?!

From an atheist point of view, thats just bullshit.

The base message from the bible is, go out and be many.
Being many is reached, but the "go out" is a tricky part, as we need a new planet to expand ourselfs asap!

The other message is, calm down, relax, accept there is good and bad, hate and love. YOU are in charge, to decide on wich side you go.

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I will tell you right up front. There are more demons in Catholic priests than there are in the world. Their evil knows no bounds. I've watched them since a child. I have seen homos use them, pedophiles use them, and lots of other degenerates have regular relationships with them. I would not trust ONE priest.

Secondly, if you REALLY want to know about demons, I will do you a great favor if you wish. All demons and all evil spirits are UNDER THE CONTROL OF GOD. God can send evil spirits if it is in your favor to do so. I have done it before and I can do it again. I will pray the Father that He sends AN evil spirit to you to convince you of your ways. If that is somehow misconstrued by you (often happens), He will send you another, and another still to convince you of your foolhardy ways. Expect to see DEMONS. Of course, you do not believe so you will convince yourself that it is something else. Like Pharoah of old, God will finally CONVINCE YOU, but then you will realize your CONDITION. The rest will be up to you. Enjoy.
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...@ the internet...1..."DEMONS" ARE REAL AND THEY "POSSESS" HUMANS...THEY CAUSE HUMANS TO COMMIT CRIMES AND GO TO JAIL...2...EARLIER TONIGHT THOUSANDS OF HUMANS WERE "POSSESSED BY DEMONS"...AND...SOME WENT TO JAIL...@ youtube PROTESTERS JUMP TURNSTILES, TAG SUBWAYS ... hidingburnit
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Absolutely believe that demons are real. I pray 5 days a week for guidance and protection. Stop living by your mind and live by your heart.
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Does anyone have any experience, evidence of demons existing ? Feelings do not count as evidence, neither do dreams or visions for these can not be proven
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Sleep paralysis
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I had that happen to me when I was a child and it was a terrifying experience
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Former atheist here.

As someone who used to live with the pain, fear, anger, paranoia, depression, obsessive compulsion, lust, hatred, pride, violence, constant cursing, rebellion, and aversion to any mention of God and Jesus, I can tell you that these "feelings" (as you dismiss them) are actually very clear "evidence" of demonic oppression on a soul.

Sleep paralysis is also a form of evidence. May you never suffer it.



"I have been born again for 17 years. Prior to being born again, I suffered chronic episodes of sleep paralysis. Being an atheist, I had no idea at the time what caused them, but they terrified me and I dreaded them. Sometimes I was afraid even to go to sleep, fearing that I would have one of my 'spells'.

I wasn’t just an atheist; I was fascinated by all forms of witchcraft and devices like magic 8 balls and Ouija boards. I’d held and participated in séances since the age of 4, but I thought of them only as spooky games to play with my friends. I was drawn to darkness – horror comics, horror movies, horror novels – and so the darkness was drawn to me. I unwittingly invited it in.

When I was 17, I played the Wicked Witch of the West in my high school’s production of The Wizard of Oz. The girl who played Dorothy was born again, and at one point refused to go on the stage with me. As part of my costume, I’d painted 666 on my forehead and dyed my teeth and tongue green. She was terrified of the thing she saw working through me. Small children in the audience started screaming and howling when I came on the stage and had to be led out of the auditorium, crying. The adults thought it was funny and congratulated me on my talent to frighten people, but in hindsight I know it wasn’t me that was doing the frightening, and “Dorothy” and the small children knew it.

Those days are long behind me now, but reading forums like the one today about sleep paralysis reminded me of how naïve most people are about demonic manifestations. Their naiveté protects them to a certain extent (just as it once protected me, to a certain extent) but it still leaves them open and vulnerable to attacks."

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Yes. They kill people for free.
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Does God control the king of demons, king of the bottomless pit, Abaddon?



I will tell you right up front. There are more demons in Catholic priests than there are in the world. Their evil knows no bounds. I've watched them since a child. I have seen homos use them, pedophiles use them, and lots of other degenerates have regular relationships with them. I would not trust ONE priest.

Secondly, if you REALLY want to know about demons, I will do you a great favor if you wish. All demons and all evil spirits are UNDER THE CONTROL OF GOD. God can send evil spirits if it is in your favor to do so. I have done it before and I can do it again. I will pray the Father that He sends AN evil spirit to you to convince you of your ways. If that is somehow misconstrued by you (often happens), He will send you another, and another still to convince you of your foolhardy ways. Expect to see DEMONS. Of course, you do not believe so you will convince yourself that it is something else. Like Pharoah of old, God will finally CONVINCE YOU, but then you will realize your CONDITION. The rest will be up to you. Enjoy.
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As an atheist I do not, although recently learned something intriguing to me. I am a direct descendant of Valentin Fleischmann. Also know as the fallen priest. Also, in the movie the exorcism of Emily Rose, which was based on the real exorcism of Anneliese Michele, he was one of the demons that had possessed her.

Even in my years as a theist I never believes demons to be real. Also I hate the argument that if it’s in the Bible it must be real. You cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible.

Does anyone have any experience, evidence of demons existing ? Feelings do not count as evidence, neither do dreams or visions for these can not be proven
 Quoting: Pig Benis


Yes. i went to what is called an encounter. Nothing was going right in my life. I had major anxiety and depression Many people prayed over me there. My stomach was very upset and I thought I was going to have a bathroom issue. One of them held on to me and didn't let me move. i felt something in my intestine flutter but not like what you expect. It felt like a bird flapping its wings but it went up through my body like a butterfly feeling coming out of my mouth like a puff of air and it happened twice. You could hear the air. It happened twice. It was bizarre and I had no experience like this ever before.

That same weekend I was prayed over again and I started to cough and then gag but they kept praying. They put a garbage bag down on the floor beside me. I coughed and coughed, fainted and then vomited but they handled the bag to ensure there wasn't a mess on me or them. I rested on the floor, got up and cleaned myself up.

The heavy weight of depression and burden I had been carrying was lifted. Point being they were demons and they had attached themselves to me. I





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