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Without exposing 001 or myself, I can tell you that our current method for the biomarker testing is a yeast-based enzymatic assay for pyridoxal 5 phosphate (PLP), and requires 2.5 days (~60 hours) to grow.

This is different from what the CLIA labs which will start running testing will be using, as they are using a rRT-PCR assay.

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Thank you for your info as well! Its hard to discern info from disinfo, I wanted to ask one of the only creditable sources I have come across. I will continue to search online as you have mentioned. If you have any sites you would like to share, I would be happy to check them out!

GodBless
-R
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You can take these to the Bank!

[link to recombinomics.co]

[link to www.thelancet.com (secure)]

[link to www.nih.gov (secure)]

[link to www.niaid.nih.gov (secure)]

[link to www.ptcommunity.com (secure)]

[link to lab-a-porter.com (secure)]

[link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]

[link to www.medscape.com (secure)]

[link to www.jimmunol.org (secure)]

[link to ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu (secure)]

There are media content I am pretty sure I cant post on here, if you look for some of the names of the authors on the above and Twatter and other media sources for example you may find very quickly the very short interviews and video clips.

Some of the information posted in the above journals may be of a differant or conflicting clinical result, than what some information being posted around the world including GLP.

I personnally like data, that's open source and from reputable sources who are top of their field.

GodBless.
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CCR5 delta 32 based bioweapon
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Sorry if you have already answered this questions, but has AIDS medication been tested against this virus?

BTW, A HUGE thankyou for all of your info. You have no idea how many people lives you are helping! Please dont let the trolls get you down. You have more power than you realize!(And continue to update this tread as you acquire more info)
-R
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Remdesivir which is made by Gilead is currently under clinical trials in China, but there has not been sufficient evidence that it will be effective in the treatment. Instead it has shown to improve the standard of care in critically ill patients, but not provide treatment.

AbbVie also has a version of remdesivir called Aluvia which is being explored as an option to treatment, but the product is not readily available for supportive treatment options.

Another treatment option that has shown promise, and is being considered is taking a dose of lopinavir and ritonavir and then nebulizing alpha-interferon BID.

-002
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77309979


On another note, chloroquine (a long used malaria treatment) has shown to have good inhibitory effects on 19ncov at the cellular level.

Unfortunately, the drug requires high kidney functioning for drug clearance as it has a small therapeutic index, it is not safe in usage for anyone over 60 YO, and in larger doses produces many adverse effects (AEs). Many critically ill patients already have reduced kidney clearance, so the toxicity levels need to be monitored more carefully to ensure that AEs such as cardiac arrest, or sudden respiratory arrest do not occur, which make it a harder drug to consider even though it shows promise.

-002
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What is you opinion of Hydroxychloroquine? There are less side effects but not as strong.
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Hydroxychloroquine is an immunomodulator and not a drug of choice. It suppresses the immune system and thus cannot be used with any live vaccines, or when there is immune suppression.

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02/08/2020 12:33 AM
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Ground Control to Uncle-001
Ground Control to Uncle-001
Take your protein pills and put your helmet on
Ground Control to Uncle-001 (Ten, nine, eight, seven, six)
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02/08/2020 12:34 AM
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001.

If I am asking a question that you have answered before I apologize. Your responses added to this thread (which I am very grateful for) do not include the post you are responding too. Still I was able to get a lot of information from what was added here from the other thread.

My daughter and I both have auto-immune diseases. My husband has heart disease (diagnosed at 38 yrs. old now 45) and also has diabetes. I'm very concerned how to keep my family safe. My daughter just went back to school after being out for 3 months due to her auto-immune illness. She wears a mask to school to avoid further infections.

What advice, if any, do you have for those of us that have auto-immune conditions, when things get worse. I can understand the technical advice. I'm a QA director, in research; pharmaceutical for 8 years and OTC the last 11 years. Thank in advance.
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I did not expect this to grow as such.

I hope some of you watched the CDC briefing as thats as close to verification of what I said before it aired withiut risking myself.

Regarding treatments, my colleagues and I are looking at fda approved antivirals, experimental antivirals and past effective treatments on prominent viral outbreaks. If it hasnt been tested or proven, unfortunately we are not looking at it at this time in this specific facility.

Working with the government requires you to follow their rules unfortunately, and to admit a non-approved therapy has effects, is not in their interest.

Speaking on fever. Yes, typically a fever is actually beneficial and should be allowed as it instigates your immune system.

But with 19ncov, it may be aiding in causing a cytokine storm,
this is unproven without live data, but is a theory we are bouncing around between colleagues.

Again, this is 100% unproven without further testing, just a hypothesis from a fellow here.

-001
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This damn thing is all backwards. With a regular flu, we don't do fever reducers unless the temp gets over 103.5, and we treat it with elderberry syrup and we knock out flus in 72 hours. So, with this, your advice would be to suppress the immune response and not try to push it along?

Assuming you aren't able to find an effective treatment, could you recommend any available remedies? I've been planning, for instance, on following the 1000mg/hr Vitamin C regimen for 6-12 hours and then 3000mg per day afterwards after reading an NIH paper on flu from the 90s.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™



Hey OP, I participated in the other thread you started, which I thanked you for. And thanks again for starting this one.

I know quite a lot about Vitamin C and can tell you that the 1g-3g amounts you mentioned will barely dent something like nCoV2019.

If you suspect your symptoms are from nCoV2019, You would need 5-7grams of LivOn Liposomal Vitamin C, taken every 3 hours for several days. The liposomal form is absorbed in the stomach and does not irritate the gastrointestinal tract like the other forms. I don't know if it will help with nCoV2019, but if vitamin C is one of your planned therapies, this is the way to do it.

But there's an even better, more potent route of delivery for vitamin C.

Normally, I wouldn't share this knowledge publicly due to liability risks, but as an AC under these circumstances, I'll do it.

The most potent form of Vitamin C is Intravenous vitamin C, in an IV bag of either sterile water or lactate ringer. This is given in doses of usually between 30 grams to 60 grams PER SESSION. intravenous delivery at this dose gives vitamin C a pro-oxidant effect rather than antioxidant effect. Vitamin C scrubs the body of pathogens, bacteria and virii alike. Slow down the IV drip, and it reverts to an antioxidant to scrub toxins and relieve any herxhemier symptoms.

In my personal experience, this has been an extremely effective modality in eliminating fevers, body aches, and it actually saved me from a near death experience with my last terrible flare up from Lyme disease and several other chronic diseases.

IV C is also cited to help or resolve septiciemias, even full blown sepsis (if treated early enough), hemhorragic fevers, viral infections, and some indications of it helping with SARS. In another post, I can provide studies and citations on the effectiveness of IV Vitamin C for these diseases. It was also instrumental in pushing my mom's stage IV cancer into remission.

Now you might think, this is unfeasible. After all, very few people have access to doctors that provide this modality.

That's why my liability risk comment.

You see, I've been giving my family and myself Vitamin C IVs for a few months now. Successfully and safely. I use a modified protocol that a Doctor created for the entire process, from start to finish in his office.

In fact, I had tinkered with the idea of creating a video to share what I do (not medical advice or instructional (due to liabilities), but rather a detailed journaling of my personal "project".

Now I realize I sharing that knowledge here may be most appropriate.

I've spent a lot of money and time tinkering and learning how to do this as safely and sterile as possible. I've acquired the list of products necessary and the source. And I'm confident with my protocol.

I don't know how much of a dent it will make with nCoV2019, but it is the most hopeful tool in my arsenal.

What do you think?
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Thanks. Adding liposomal Vit C to the list.
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02/08/2020 12:41 AM
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This thread was started because the other one got out of hand with everyone arguing over his credibility.

Revbo started this thread for him to pass his information.

If you don’t believe him, then don’t post.

No more of this questioning and arguing over his credibility on this thread.

Don’t post.

I understand some of you don’t believe him.

Honestly, you should take everything here with a grain of S A L T.

I honestly don’t care if he is the Tooth Fairy masquerading as a Senior Virologist. This thread was created for him to give info and answer questions.

Use discernment to decide whether or not to believe it.
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Thanks, rf. I’ve been away for a while. Appreciate you cleaning things up.
 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™


I normally stay out of the snotstorm discussions, because, yanno, you will never win with an AC.

This, however, is completely different. And it is worth fighting for. Let the information come out. Decide for yourself what you believe or not . . . and (to borrow a phrase from my dear old dad) if I want your opinion, I will give it to you.

Back to lurk mode.

And have a lovely evening, glp.
I would prefer not to.
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02/08/2020 12:44 AM
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001.

If I am asking a question that you have answered before I apologize. Your responses added to this thread (which I am very grateful for) do not include the post you are responding too. Still I was able to get a lot of information from what was added here from the other thread.

My daughter and I both have auto-immune diseases. My husband has heart disease (diagnosed at 38 yrs. old now 45) and also has diabetes. I'm very concerned how to keep my family safe. My daughter just went back to school after being out for 3 months due to her auto-immune illness. She wears a mask to school to avoid further infections.

What advice, if any, do you have for those of us that have auto-immune conditions, when things get worse. I can understand the technical advice. I'm a QA director, in research; pharmaceutical for 8 years and OTC the last 11 years. Thank in advance.
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I don't know when 001 will be back, but I can take this one. Do not panic, and remain calm. The current impact in the US is still very low. Your child is more likely to get influenza B with the ongoing outbreaks we are having.

You have a 1 in 10 chance in getting influenza B and a 1 in 100000 chance of getting 19ncov. It only becomes 1 in 50 if you've been within less than 8 feet of an exposed 19ncov patient, or touched a contaminated surface.

-002
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02/08/2020 12:47 AM
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002, I may have missed it, but who are you?

Just want to know the context around your comments. thanks.
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Bats? Rather than flies?

Youve really managed to get this into a Fly,

Now if that is proven I will think and state everywhere in the world without a doubt this source is the most advanced virologist and expert in every field of medical, genetic, viral, genome, and hands on Scientsist te world has ever known.

Wow if you got that into a Fly and it was stable as in replicated and made the fly sick and as you said well...well

Leanardo Davinci would not be as far ahead of his time as your lab currently is.

I think the Link you have and advertsising to make money by affiliation as in your hide my ass vpn is not allowed on GLP?

Thank you for posting the information to the link I just provided to previous poster as being able to take it to the Bank.

I am intrigued by 002 seems to be interested in vitamin b and biomarking anything as its already done, and testing for this is being done in situ on live patiants sice a week or two afetr the outbreak, and bio marking looking for symptoms of the virus, so in your case in vitri say for example in plasma solution, would just need Biomarkers that are already available for many decades.

If though you are using it to map any mutated Rna on the Protien Heads that is differant from the published ones that makes sense.

GodBless.
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02/08/2020 12:50 AM
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Question regarding what I have gathered

symptom: bilateral ground-glass opacity is caused by pneumonia? (Assuming)

pneumonia causes inflammation in the air sacs in your lungs (alveoli)


Symptom: Organ failure to do cytokine storm?

CBD oil is known for its inflammatory properties... Would CBD oil ever be used as a type of treatment that could be studied against this virus in a lab setting?

-R
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You have a 1 in 10 chance in getting influenza B and a 1 in 100000 chance of getting 19ncov. It only becomes 1 in 50 if you've been within less than 8 feet of an exposed 19ncov patient, or touched a contaminated surface.

-002
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Where do you get your R0 number from as your lab working?

It seems much lower than even the conservative estimates of r2 and below in fact it is?

GodBless
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I would be interested in hearing more. I had mentioned it in the other thread but I will bring it up here as well. My twins were premies. One baby did better than the other. Baby B had chronic lung issues and was often in and out of the hospital through her first 4-5 years . When I changed pediatricians, the new Dr. prescribed her vitamin D and told me to give her vitamin C to bowel tolerance. I had to raise the dose by 500 mg everyday until she got diarrhea. Then took a day off and maintained the daily dose we were at before the diarrhea. This was a turning point I her health.
 Quoting: TwoPlusTwins



That's great to hear. I've experienced miraculous things myself with Vitamin C.

What was the bowel tolerance dose settled on? and how long did you give it to her?

I'm a bit spooked by another thread that said sharing any EFFECTIVE non-pharma cures can be life threatening. So I don't think I'll publish the info publicly. But I'll be happy to share it with you privately.

Maybe you can create a burner email address and post it. I'll email you my contact info.
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There will be updates soon to change the 14 day quarantine time to at least 20 days. It will start first by communication to already identified suspected cases and at ports on entry, and then communicated en masse to prevent any public outcry.

The 14-day quarantines were started because the doubling time in regular cases was 3.8-14.1 days, with the initial cluster based on the market in Wuhan. Whereas in current 19ncov clusters, we are currently seeing doubling days at 4.5-19.6.

001 can back this up as well from the exponential growth coalescent model.

-002
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Bats? Rather than flies?

Youve really managed to get this into a Fly,

Now if that is proven I will think and state everywhere in the world without a doubt this source is the most advanced virologist and expert in every field of medical, genetic, viral, genome, and hands on Scientsist te world has ever known.

Wow if you got that into a Fly and it was stable as in replicated and made the fly sick and as you said well...well

Leanardo Davinci would not be as far ahead of his time as your lab currently is.

I think the Link you have and advertsising to make money by affiliation as in your hide my ass vpn is not allowed on GLP?

Thank you for posting the information to the link I just provided to previous poster as being able to take it to the Bank.

I am intrigued by 002 seems to be interested in vitamin b and biomarking anything as its already done, and testing for this is being done in situ on live patiants sice a week or two afetr the outbreak, and bio marking looking for symptoms of the virus, so in your case in vitri say for example in plasma solution, would just need Biomarkers that are already available for many decades.

If though you are using it to map any mutated Rna on the Protien Heads that is differant from the published ones that makes sense.

GodBless.
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I'm very skeptical this was 001. Given the circumstances, I don't see him/her advertising a VPN product. Would be super bizarre.
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How long has it taken to compile 001's information?
He talks down a lot and in Boss's world that's a no no as well as Q's.
A lab built for profit purposes would want it to run, And I know for a fact containment spaces are an actuality.
Use major discernment here.
He's backtracked on a few things as well.
There are also live cases here in the states. So all data concerning the virus would be available to a designated lab.
Question: How would the chain of where it supposedly originated from be known?
It's a new virus
And where would the Indian bat part have come from, if the sequence of handling was an actual event.
Just asking for a friend....
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Any info about what Biotron Australia are doing with the coronavirus? This is an announcement that they sent out a few days ago:

The Directors of Biotron Limited (‘Biotron’ or ‘the Company’) are pleased to advise that it is in the process of evaluating several promising compounds for activity against coronavirus, including the new novel strain known as 2019-nCoV.

Within its proprietary small molecule compound library Biotron has over 30 compounds with good activity against a range of coronaviruses, including human coronaviruses that cause mild, cold-like symptoms as well as the SARS coronavirus that was responsible for the outbreak of that virus in 2003. These compounds can reduce the levels of coronavirus by 90 - 100% in infected cell cultures. Importantly, several compounds have broad-spectrum activity against multiple strains of coronaviruses.

In response to the recent coronavirus outbreak in China Biotron is now focused on testing a select set of these compounds against the new 2019-nCoV. This work will be done under contract in specialist laboratories that have access to this new virus, which has only been isolated and made available for such studies in recent days. Biotron’s priority will be testing its compounds that have shown broad-spectrum activity against different coronaviruses.

Biotron’s core expertise lies in the design and development of drugs that target virus-encoded proteins known as viroporins. The company’s scientists were the first to identify and publish data showing that the E protein of the coronavirus is viroporin and a good target for antiviral drugs. While Biotron’s focus has been on its lead clinical HIV-1 eradication and its promising preclinical Hepatitis B virus (HBV) programs, the company has continued to progress earlier stage research on development of drugs to target respiratory infections including coronaviruses.
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Bats? Rather than flies?

Youve really managed to get this into a Fly,

Now if that is proven I will think and state everywhere in the world without a doubt this source is the most advanced virologist and expert in every field of medical, genetic, viral, genome, and hands on Scientsist te world has ever known.

Wow if you got that into a Fly and it was stable as in replicated and made the fly sick and as you said well...well

Leanardo Davinci would not be as far ahead of his time as your lab currently is.

I think the Link you have and advertsising to make money by affiliation as in your hide my ass vpn is not allowed on GLP?

Thank you for posting the information to the link I just provided to previous poster as being able to take it to the Bank.

I am intrigued by 002 seems to be interested in vitamin b and biomarking anything as its already done, and testing for this is being done in situ on live patiants sice a week or two afetr the outbreak, and bio marking looking for symptoms of the virus, so in your case in vitri say for example in plasma solution, would just need Biomarkers that are already available for many decades.

If though you are using it to map any mutated Rna on the Protien Heads that is differant from the published ones that makes sense.

GodBless.
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Look into parasitology, you'll find:

A fly can pry open a ridge on the dorsal side of a wasp or a bee and place eggs.
A wasp 'drones' a bee by depositing a larva via a sting through the back without killing it. The bee keeps on going thereafter.

Fungi, bacteria, spores, pollens and bodily fluids accompany all these steps.

The avatar bee then becomes an infested biobot.

Then a bat eats the bee.

Then a snake eats the bat.

Then human eats snake.
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002, I may have missed it, but who are you?

Just want to know the context around your comments. thanks.
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A research pharmacologist.

-002
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fruit flies.
[...]
[link to www.hidemyass.com (secure)]

-001
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Bats? Rather than flies?

Youve really managed to get this into a Fly,

Now if that is proven I will think and state everywhere in the world without a doubt this source is the most advanced virologist and expert in every field
...
I think the Link you have and advertsising to make money by affiliation as in your hide my ass vpn is not allowed on GLP?
 Quoting: MostHolyFace


I'm very skeptical this was 001. Given the circumstances, I don't see him/her advertising a VPN product. Would be super bizarre.
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I was making a point to:

Even if you decide to try to be "them" and sign everything with 001, you still can't pull off more than three very small sentences.
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Go here:
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And paste in:
Regarding treatments for the virus, my colleagues and I are reviewing findings that

(leave the line incomplete)

It's an neural net designed to finish incomplete thoughts 'convincingly'
GLP scoffed at it, mainly because they didn't know how to use it properly...
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I did not expect this to grow as such.

I hope some of you watched the CDC briefing as thats as close to verification of what I said before it aired withiut risking myself.

Regarding treatments, my colleagues and I are looking at fda approved antivirals, experimental antivirals and past effective treatments on prominent viral outbreaks. If it hasnt been tested or proven, unfortunately we are not looking at it at this time in this specific facility.

Working with the government requires you to follow their rules unfortunately, and to admit a non-approved therapy has effects, is not in their interest.

Speaking on fever. Yes, typically a fever is actually beneficial and should be allowed as it instigates your immune system.

But with 19ncov, it may be aiding in causing a cytokine storm,
this is unproven without live data, but is a theory we are bouncing around between colleagues.

Again, this is 100% unproven without further testing, just a hypothesis from a fellow here.

-001
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78402365


This damn thing is all backwards. With a regular flu, we don't do fever reducers unless the temp gets over 103.5, and we treat it with elderberry syrup and we knock out flus in 72 hours. So, with this, your advice would be to suppress the immune response and not try to push it along?

Assuming you aren't able to find an effective treatment, could you recommend any available remedies? I've been planning, for instance, on following the 1000mg/hr Vitamin C regimen for 6-12 hours and then 3000mg per day afterwards after reading an NIH paper on flu from the 90s.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™



Hey OP, I participated in the other thread you started, which I thanked you for. And thanks again for starting this one.

I know quite a lot about Vitamin C and can tell you that the 1g-3g amounts you mentioned will barely dent something like nCoV2019.

If you suspect your symptoms are from nCoV2019, You would need 5-7grams of LivOn Liposomal Vitamin C, taken every 3 hours for several days. The liposomal form is absorbed in the stomach and does not irritate the gastrointestinal tract like the other forms. I don't know if it will help with nCoV2019, but if vitamin C is one of your planned therapies, this is the way to do it.

But there's an even better, more potent route of delivery for vitamin C.

Normally, I wouldn't share this knowledge publicly due to liability risks, but as an AC under these circumstances, I'll do it.

The most potent form of Vitamin C is Intravenous vitamin C, in an IV bag of either sterile water or lactate ringer. This is given in doses of usually between 30 grams to 60 grams PER SESSION. intravenous delivery at this dose gives vitamin C a pro-oxidant effect rather than antioxidant effect. Vitamin C scrubs the body of pathogens, bacteria and virii alike. Slow down the IV drip, and it reverts to an antioxidant to scrub toxins and relieve any herxhemier symptoms.

In my personal experience, this has been an extremely effective modality in eliminating fevers, body aches, and it actually saved me from a near death experience with my last terrible flare up from Lyme disease and several other chronic diseases.

IV C is also cited to help or resolve septiciemias, even full blown sepsis (if treated early enough), hemhorragic fevers, viral infections, and some indications of it helping with SARS. In another post, I can provide studies and citations on the effectiveness of IV Vitamin C for these diseases. It was also instrumental in pushing my mom's stage IV cancer into remission.

Now you might think, this is unfeasible. After all, very few people have access to doctors that provide this modality.

That's why my liability risk comment.

You see, I've been giving my family and myself Vitamin C IVs for a few months now. Successfully and safely. I use a modified protocol that a Doctor created for the entire process, from start to finish in his office.

In fact, I had tinkered with the idea of creating a video to share what I do (not medical advice or instructional (due to liabilities), but rather a detailed journaling of my personal "project".

Now I realize I sharing that knowledge here may be most appropriate.

I've spent a lot of money and time tinkering and learning how to do this as safely and sterile as possible. I've acquired the list of products necessary and the source. And I'm confident with my protocol.

I don't know how much of a dent it will make with nCoV2019, but it is the most hopeful tool in my arsenal.

What do you think?
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If there is a way for you to share more, without getting yourself into any mess, please share. I am thinking oregano oil may help, but I keep going back to vit.C. thank you for sharing your findings with us.
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This damn thing is all backwards. With a regular flu, we don't do fever reducers unless the temp gets over 103.5, and we treat it with elderberry syrup and we knock out flus in 72 hours. So, with this, your advice would be to suppress the immune response and not try to push it along?

Assuming you aren't able to find an effective treatment, could you recommend any available remedies? I've been planning, for instance, on following the 1000mg/hr Vitamin C regimen for 6-12 hours and then 3000mg per day afterwards after reading an NIH paper on flu from the 90s.

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He is referring to a cytokine storm. this happen in response to a low level of vitamin D3. if the cell doesnt get D3 it has no idea what to do or how to fight the pathogenic invader. D3 although called a "vitamin" is actually a hormone and it contains the information required to fight pathogens. If not enough free D3 is available in your blood stream your cells release loads of cytokines which is basically a signal saying "help i dont know what to do, so i am going to do the only thing i know how and release cytokines. Please send some D3". A severe lack of D3 will subsequent cause a cytokine storm because all o fthe cells will react this way.

There was a debate amongst MDs during the H1N1 outbreak pertaining to the same exact thing. Essentially this MDs are clueless. a cytokine storm is a direct result of viral load and lack of D3. if you have plentiful D3 and knock back the viral load with elderberry, and/or nano silver mixed in with some vit C this should do the trick. but dont try to reduce the fever. It has nothing to do with the cytokine storm, and will help to reduce the viral load by virtue of raising the core temp and making it harder for the virus to replicate.

If you arent currently taking D3 you need to mega dose for a while. It takes a while to build up in your bloodstream. I woudl take 10-15000 iu a day for about a week then cut back to 5000 iu a day after that for maintenance. If you feel something coming on take 50,000 iu for a couple of days. then scale back to 10,000. hope this helps

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Sounds certainly hopeful! Can you please provide the quote source? BTW, I'm not 001.
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fruit flies.
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-001
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Bats? Rather than flies?

Youve really managed to get this into a Fly,

Now if that is proven I will think and state everywhere in the world without a doubt this source is the most advanced virologist and expert in every field
...
I think the Link you have and advertsising to make money by affiliation as in your hide my ass vpn is not allowed on GLP?
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I'm very skeptical this was 001. Given the circumstances, I don't see him/her advertising a VPN product. Would be super bizarre.
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I was making a point to:

Even if you decide to try to be "them" and sign everything with 001, you still can't pull off more than three very small sentences.
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Go here:
[link to talktotransformer.com (secure)]

And paste in:
Regarding treatments for the virus, my colleagues and I are reviewing findings that

(leave the line incomplete)

It's an neural net designed to finish incomplete thoughts 'convincingly'
GLP scoffed at it, mainly because they didn't know how to use it properly...
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It's a good point you bring up.

I was referring to the people in this thread who decided to state very short things, not in his word pattern or character.

People have an energy when they write. Sometimes you can pick up on it.

I think he is caught up in a ban right now.
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Woah, awesome!!
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this is his fist post
[link to ibb.co (secure)]

I asked and he delivered
I am thankful for that, more insight and a lot of smart and cautious answers and advices 001 provided last night,
No sleep for mee yesterday and today

Thread: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 (Page 2161)

the start

001:
Also please dont think we in the US are not taking this serious.

We are under directive to halt all work except on 2019 NCOV. Atleast here where I work, hence my open admission of VPN use and lack of registration.

You need to understand the stance of a president. If he pays serious attention to this PUBLICLY, you may not panic, but what of the other 330m americans?
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I am certain your team and QEAO team that organizes you
does a great job, President is in a lot of things in front of us all.


What can you share for the in the know, with plausible deniability in place about :

* origins of the virus
* Ro spreading rate
* mortality rate
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001:

Virus came from Saudi, then Egypt, then Netherlands, then Canada, then Wuhan virus lab then fish and seafood market.
Somewhere in that chain, a bitof indian cavebat got added and some other ingredients from unknown origins.

Ro is somewhere between 4 and 6

mortality rate around 40%

but I'm just an AC...

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Surely not.

40%

FFS. Was this the 001 troll?
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I assumed that last comment about the Indian cave bat getting in there was someone making a joke.
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we cant know.
rO and mortality could be right because why would China shut down 500 milion people and prepare to shut 1 billion ?
I read mortaility rate for people above 50 is 50-60%
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this is his fist post
[link to ibb.co (secure)]

I asked and he delivered
I am thankful for that, more insight and a lot of smart and cautious answers and advices 001 provided last night,
No sleep for mee yesterday and today

Thread: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 (Page 2161)

the start

001:
Also please dont think we in the US are not taking this serious.

We are under directive to halt all work except on 2019 NCOV. Atleast here where I work, hence my open admission of VPN use and lack of registration.

You need to understand the stance of a president. If he pays serious attention to this PUBLICLY, you may not panic, but what of the other 330m americans?
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I am certain your team and QEAO team that organizes you
does a great job, President is in a lot of things in front of us all.


What can you share for the in the know, with plausible deniability in place about :

* origins of the virus
* Ro spreading rate
* mortality rate
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001:

Virus came from Saudi, then Egypt, then Netherlands, then Canada, then Wuhan virus lab then fish and seafood market.
Somewhere in that chain, a bitof indian cavebat got added and some other ingredients from unknown origins.

Ro is somewhere between 4 and 6

mortality rate around 40%

but I'm just an AC...

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Surely not.

40%

FFS. Was this the 001 troll?
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I assumed that last comment about the Indian cave bat getting in there was someone making a joke.
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we cant know.
rO and mortality could be right because why would China shut down 500 milion people and prepare to shut 1 billion ?
I read mortaility rate for people above 50 is 50-60%
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from other thread..Cheers!!

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001.

If I am asking a question that you have answered before I apologize. Your responses added to this thread (which I am very grateful for) do not include the post you are responding too. Still I was able to get a lot of information from what was added here from the other thread.

My daughter and I both have auto-immune diseases. My husband has heart disease (diagnosed at 38 yrs. old now 45) and also has diabetes. I'm very concerned how to keep my family safe. My daughter just went back to school after being out for 3 months due to her auto-immune illness. She wears a mask to school to avoid further infections.

What advice, if any, do you have for those of us that have auto-immune conditions, when things get worse. I can understand the technical advice. I'm a QA director, in research; pharmaceutical for 8 years and OTC the last 11 years. Thank in advance.
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I don't know when 001 will be back, but I can take this one. Do not panic, and remain calm. The current impact in the US is still very low. Your child is more likely to get influenza B with the ongoing outbreaks we are having.

You have a 1 in 10 chance in getting influenza B and a 1 in 100000 chance of getting 19ncov. It only becomes 1 in 50 if you've been within less than 8 feet of an exposed 19ncov patient, or touched a contaminated surface.

-002
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so what I understand from your situation : the best longterm protection for the next 2 years will be cabin in the woods on a mountain top with some seeds grain food stock and live hapily isolated like our ancestors did. Without thinking on job money or anything ...

002 and 001
What about this scenario for eliminating virus in the body :

UV light or Sun, spring is almost here
on the Finish sauna with a lot of warmth and humid air ?
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This thread was started because the other one got out of hand with everyone arguing over his credibility.

Revbo started this thread for him to pass his information.

If you don’t believe him, then don’t post.

No more of this questioning and arguing over his credibility on this thread.

Don’t post.

I understand some of you don’t believe him.

Honestly, you should take everything here with a grain of S A L T.

I honestly don’t care if he is the Tooth Fairy masquerading as a Senior Virologist. This thread was created for him to give info and answer questions.

Use discernment to decide whether or not to believe it.
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Just to add to the thread what I have already tried to say regarding government activity that you may or may not be perceiving:

To understand what is policy and what is not; as well as how everything should work during a ramp-up and or emergency. To better understand how things will work you need to look into the following terms:

J5 - which is Strategic Plans and Policy

COOP - Continuity of Operations Plan

Understand what those bring up are requirements across the board in the Federal Govt. If this kicks off it will be DHS and FEMA taking charge. They will have a COOP for every possible scenario and those are tested and updated. (All the exercises in the past that have been done with other organizations are just that)

I have written parts of COOPs for organizations in the past that cover three to four scenarios. What you need to understand is they will be phased; there are always phased. COOPs are designed and are implemented to run for at least 30 days.

The initial phase consists of basic infrastructure support. These people would be the first ones to come into a predetermined location and begin to set it up and make it functional. In general, this would be a small team that ensure all the essentials are in place and working. (Ex: Ensure power, set up communications, conduct any troubleshooting of issues identified onsite, etc.

They will also bring a portion of the next phases expendable items generally enough to last the incoming pax 3 - 7 days so they can operate once boots on the ground. That incoming group will come in and be significantly larger and will have a significant amount of supplies (at a min two weeks). That continues until the whole organization or function is fully operational. There will generally be 3 - 5 groups for this to happen.

I have read posts that people were seeing huge movements on roads etc. That is not how this works. Simply because you never put all your eggs in one basket. These are phased and you will have small groups that will take different routes be in different convoys and leave and arrive at different times.

The timeline of the groups are essentially based on two things: risk and significance of the function being performed. To put it simply it is what is the impact of this fucntion to stop working and how long can this fucntion go without running at 100% and still be effective.

So what I am trying to say these things are phased and not instant. The build up and are not massive actions. They tend to go under the radar unless you know what to look for.

The only time you see massive movements is during a real unplanned and unconrolled emergency.

Example: unknown massive event happens spontaneously... you have a group that is advon that can operate within 3 to 12 (E+3 to E=12) hours depending on function. You will generally see the next group movements at E+24 to E+36 and by E+72 all essential assets will be in place.

Notice that is a spontaneous event...

The point is during this stage you don't look at the number of people look at the supplies being set up... that is what is going to tell you how big things are anticipated and or expected to be.

I have tried to offer insight on the longer board and no one listens... Not a shill or a troll. Everything I said above, can pretty much be found in regulation and policy if you are willing to dig deep enough.
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Thank you for this insight
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