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Coronavirus Intel Clearinghouse

 
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001.

Serious question here for myself, that’s been on my mind and not sure you’ll even know.


I’m immunocompromised as I take a TNF blocker, Humira, to treat Psoriatic Arthritis (and I’m only 31 *sad*).

Am I totally fucking screwed if I get this ???
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yes my child.
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I literally haven’t taken it since early December cause I’m scared gaah
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I am on a government oversight committee that meets at the CDC several times each year. During the Ebola Crises in 2014 I was given a personal tour of the Emergency Operations Center and got to meet with the epidemiologists who were in the field in Africa.

The folks I usually work with at the CDC have all been detailed to the Emergency Operations Center to work on the coronavirus response.

What you are being told publicly is not what is being discussed privately, and the private discussions are much worse than you can imagine.
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-001 what do you thin about this?


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We maybe found the potential 🦠 orgin host of the #Coronavirus - the pangolin. A virus strain isolated from it has 99% March with 2019-nCOV. And it was found previously at the market.

[link to www.xinhuanet.com]

Do you think that now that they found the origin can make a cure or something good?
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-001 what do you thin about this?


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We maybe found the potential 🦠 orgin host of the #Coronavirus - the pangolin. A virus strain isolated from it has 99% March with 2019-nCOV. And it was found previously at the market.

[link to www.xinhuanet.com]

Do you think that now that they found the origin can make a cure or something good?
 Quoting: xBl4ckFir3x


1rof1

Holy hell, you must make someone very happy with that wide eyed innocence and not a brain cell to be had to mar it.

How are they going to make a vaccine for a rapidly mutating cold virus? Pixie dust?

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-001 what do you thin about this?


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We maybe found the potential 🦠 orgin host of the #Coronavirus - the pangolin. A virus strain isolated from it has 99% March with 2019-nCOV. And it was found previously at the market.

[link to www.xinhuanet.com]

Do you think that now that they found the origin can make a cure or something good?
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001, I asked in the other thread but it got lost...
How exactly are the tests done to confirm a case of nCoV? The case from London, Ontario is a woman who tested negative, went home and stayed there, then after retesting results were switched to a weak positive.
She never showed symptoms, and there's no indication that she went back to the hospital for repeat testing. All articles I've found just say "results retested he switched"... I don't understand the process but I find the language around this case odd. Sad you're not Canadian, was hoping you'd have more insight on the Canadian protocols but I value your insight regardless.
If they re-used the initial test/sample from this patient, for the negative result, how would it be turned in to a positive? Would this put other negative results at risk of being false negatives?
And if they had to call this patient back in for a new round of testing, can you speculate as to how this team became suspicious of this case after declaring it negative?

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I am on a government oversight committee that meets at the CDC several times each year. During the Ebola Crises in 2014 I was given a personal tour of the Emergency Operations Center and got to meet with the epidemiologists who were in the field in Africa.

The folks I usually work with at the CDC have all been detailed to the Emergency Operations Center to work on the coronavirus response.

What you are being told publicly is not what is being discussed privately, and the private discussions are much worse than you can imagine.
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Ok, so if you know that to be true, you must also know some specifics.
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Not that anyone particularly cares what I find interesting, but I've picked a few such quotes from the post on page 1 of this thread of 001's posts from the main nCoV thread.

Part 1

"If they reveal everything all at once, mass panic due to speculation and rumors will make ALL efforts of treatment and prevention absolutely meaningless."

"We do not assume in my industry. That does not bring a repeatable result."

"Manipulating a virus outside its natural routes reduces stability, resulting in unreliable results in the real world. You may end up having the barrel pointed at you instead of your target."

"All treatment in hospital will be SUPPORTIVE, not COMBATIVE."

"The stark reality of viruses, requires spread before true knowledge can be gained. In between spread and prevention is what my lab has been tasked with."

"If you need reasoning, educate yourself on available case studies by my colleagues at Lancet, showing ground glass opacity and other lung damage early in virus onset."

"Symptoms are what you have been warned to watch for, they will be subtle and minor based on what we have seen. But you will notice a shortness of breath VERY fast, that is not common. You WILL know if you have this."

"In my field of work, 'God' or nature, does not hide things. It works in absolutes. Man works in the way of hiding things."

"They [CCP] are simply attempting to keep WHO and CDC from pushing so hard to get in."

"The Presidency comes with many things, one of which being full control if needed. Only requires a single signature by his pen. Same signature that signed the directives our labs are following here in the US."

"The liberal mind will be the death of us. States will have to act accordingly."


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"An unfailing experience of mundane events in harmony with the changes occurring in the heavens has instructed and compelled my unwilling belief." Johannes Kepler

"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years..." Genesis 1:14
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Part 2

"It does contain proteins from HIV responsible for decimating your immune system which is why sepsis is an issue present with 19NCOV."

"Its a possibility influenza may hinder ncov. But due to the proteins present from HIV, it will decimate vulnerable immune systems, quickly allowing one of the two to cause sepsis, among other severe outcomes."

"I do not speculate due to 19 yrs in a field of work that requires you to deal in certainties."

"We need real world spread and symptomatic data."

"The likely hood of contracting influenza at the same time is dependant on if its currently an issue near you. It would cause serious issues in my opinion to be infected with both."

"DNA is so diverse now worldwide, that being able to target a "race" is next to impossible.... There is no "pure" dna left."

"N100 in close proximity, outside 6-8ft, n95 is enough. Sanitize often and keep your hands off your damn face."

"Expect no country that wants to be considered among the most powerful to provide accurate reporting at this time.
China was #1 and has fallen down. Now its a fumble play you are watching, who can hold the facade long enough."

"Tests do not look for the whole sequences, but mere pieces. If say the piece the test looks for is mutated in a transmission, in theory, the new strain would now be invisible."

"Containment means you all go in a fema camp and wait. Economy dies, people die, government is demonized forever."

"They allowna few to die due to delayed testing, possibility of spread, but we find treatment? You hate the government for 3 months til some other topic arrises."

"They are merely buying me and all my colleagues nationwide time to get ahead of the curve. Once the cats out, its out. You cant take it back"

"I signed 3 seperate ndas to be involved in this program. The only reason this info is here, is because I have been here as an AC for a very long time."

"You can only move science so fast."

"I say we have a mere month to find efficient means of treatment before things get risky due to the current strategy we are taking. (Playing coy to reduce public awareness to provide time)"

"If you experience fever, do your best to mediate the fever to allow your immune system to have relief as it will need it. The virus does target your lymphocytes and makes your level drop, contrary to what all other viruses except HIV do. No, the fever seems to be pre severe symptoms and carries on into the start of serious conditions. It is best to weaken it as fast as possible to allow your immune system to be even a little more prepared for what will follow the metaphorical "battering ram" of this virus."


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"An unfailing experience of mundane events in harmony with the changes occurring in the heavens has instructed and compelled my unwilling belief." Johannes Kepler

"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years..." Genesis 1:14
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Woah, awesome!!
 Quoting: cgip


this is his fist post
[link to ibb.co (secure)]

I asked and he delivered
I am thankful for that, more insight and a lot of smart and cautious answers and advices 001 provided last night,
No sleep for mee yesterday and today

Thread: Covid-19/300 Q-TINED IRAQ P3544/ 7(SK)AFTER VISIT ISRAEL P3546/1ST IRAQ!+3 LEBANON P3549/UAE+2=13 P3551/ITALY 55+2 RIP P3561/IRAN 28+9 RIP? P3563 (Page 2161)

the start

001:
Also please dont think we in the US are not taking this serious.

We are under directive to halt all work except on 2019 NCOV. Atleast here where I work, hence my open admission of VPN use and lack of registration.

You need to understand the stance of a president. If he pays serious attention to this PUBLICLY, you may not panic, but what of the other 330m americans?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1424669


I am certain your team and QEAO team that organizes you
does a great job, President is in a lot of things in front of us all.


What can you share for the in the know, with plausible deniability in place about :

* origins of the virus
* Ro spreading rate
* mortality rate
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001:

Virus came from Saudi, then Egypt, then Netherlands, then Canada, then Wuhan virus lab then fish and seafood market.
Somewhere in that chain, a bitof indian cavebat got added and some other ingredients from unknown origins.

Ro is somewhere between 4 and 6

mortality rate around 40%

but I'm just an AC...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78381152


Surely not.

40%

FFS. Was this the 001 troll?
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up.

"Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself."...Q
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China using the flu as an excuse to genocide dissidents? This is enough to make me wonder

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we know who engineered it, goto:

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CDC “Intelligence Officer,” anthrax researcher and African vaccine deployment expert openly admits the coronavirus pandemic is beyond control and will spread globally


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guys what is the best reasonably priced PPE for this crap? im searching for BLS4 pressurized suits but no price anywhere. reasonable cost: <50k usd

thanks
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Woah, awesome!!
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this is his fist post
[link to ibb.co (secure)]

I asked and he delivered
I am thankful for that, more insight and a lot of smart and cautious answers and advices 001 provided last night,
No sleep for mee yesterday and today

Thread: Covid-19/300 Q-TINED IRAQ P3544/ 7(SK)AFTER VISIT ISRAEL P3546/1ST IRAQ!+3 LEBANON P3549/UAE+2=13 P3551/ITALY 55+2 RIP P3561/IRAN 28+9 RIP? P3563 (Page 2161)

the start

001:
Also please dont think we in the US are not taking this serious.

We are under directive to halt all work except on 2019 NCOV. Atleast here where I work, hence my open admission of VPN use and lack of registration.

You need to understand the stance of a president. If he pays serious attention to this PUBLICLY, you may not panic, but what of the other 330m americans?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1424669


I am certain your team and QEAO team that organizes you
does a great job, President is in a lot of things in front of us all.


What can you share for the in the know, with plausible deniability in place about :

* origins of the virus
* Ro spreading rate
* mortality rate
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78381152

001:

Virus came from Saudi, then Egypt, then Netherlands, then Canada, then Wuhan virus lab then fish and seafood market.
Somewhere in that chain, a bitof indian cavebat got added and some other ingredients from unknown origins.

Ro is somewhere between 4 and 6

mortality rate around 40%

but I'm just an AC...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78381152


Surely not.

40%

FFS. Was this the 001 troll?
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


nope, sorry, ive been busy

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You know when you question "Why are you doing that when we already know it doesn't work?"

Either the answer is you're dealing with idiots in authority, or the desired outcome they are going for isn't the one you think it is.


If

A) a high fever only becomes present when someone with the virus begins to have organ trouble, i.e. becomes serious,

+

B) if people are being screened for fever...which they are at airports, borders, in some quarantine cities

=

The answer to "Why are they fever screening when it doesn't screen for the virus or help with containment, it only tags severe cases?" is:

C) we are past containment, they are simply doing triage and trying to target the cases who are going to need emergency treatment

Prove me wrong.

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But with 19ncov, it may be aiding in causing a cytokine storm, this is unproven without live data, but is a theory we are bouncing around between colleagues.

Again, this is 100% unproven without further testing, just a hypothesis from a fellow here.

-001
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Oh but it has been proven in LIVE DATA in fact in a journal you mention, and on the 24th January 001!

The Lancet


"Early studies have shown that increased amounts of proinflammatory cytokines in serum (eg, IL1B, IL6, IL12, IFN&#947;, IP10, and MCP1) were associated with pulmonary inflammation and extensive lung damage in SARS patients.22
MERS-CoV infection was also reported to induce increased concentrations of proinflammatory cytokines (IFN&#947;, TNF&#945;, IL15, and IL17).23
We noted that patients infected with 2019-nCoV also had high amounts of IL1B, IFN&#947;, IP10, and MCP1, probably leading to activated T-helper-1 (Th1) cell responses. Moreover, patients requiring ICU admission had higher concentrations of GCSF, IP10, MCP1, MIP1A, and TNF&#945; than did those not requiring ICU admission, suggesting that the cytokine storm was associated with disease severity."

[link to www.thelancet.com (secure)]

Noted here in a very prestigious journal I am sure you are a paid monthly member of recieving and is sitting on your coffee table of the lab?

The Lab Magazine go to for most who work in Labs?

[link to lab-a-porter.com (secure)]
"THE LANCET’s recent publication entitled “Clinical features of patients infected with the 2019 novel coronavirus in Wuhan, China”, described the correlation of cytokine storm (high levels of circulating inflammatory cytokines) and the severity of illness in patients infected with the 2019-nCoV (2019 Wuhan Novel Coronavirus).

Huang, et al. noted the clinical course of the 41 hospitalised patients infected with the 2019-nCoV and categorised them who did, or did not, required treatment in the intensive care unit (ICU). Those that were admitted to the ICU, particularly those with severe disease, exhibited significantly higher levels of inflammatory cytokines compared to those that did not. This “cytokine storm” can trigger a viral sepsis in coronavirus infection, where viral replication and excessive, uncontrolled systemic inflammation can lead to pneumonitis, acute respiratory distress syndrome, respiratory failure, shock, organ failure, secondary bacterial pneumonia, and potentially death. This same correlation between cytokine storm and severity of illness was observed previously in both SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) and MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) patients.
"

Oh and if you guys in the government Lab dont have the Lancet Handy or the Lab Journals for nearly all Lab Workers here it is on I am sure without need for a "Proxy" though through your intranet and available to all who would need an internet connection to connect the Government on the
US National Library Of Medicine
&
National Institute of Health

of course all Located on:

PubMed.Gov the American Government Publication of all Things Medical (for public consumption for people, like me and us on GLP not involved in the high level research)
Of course hosted by:

The National Center for Biotechnology Information advances science and health by providing access to biomedical and genomic information
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Maybe you and your collegues as you say could update your findings to come up to date with January 24th?

It may save countless lives in saving the world as you all are?

Oh Just in case your VPN is blocking the flow of the Medical data some more information Published today which is as said directly from the medical records shared electronically from China to the West, which as some of your posts seem to suggest they are not sharing info, um the Paper on the 24th was the first Government releasing of actual Electronic Medical records Data Analysed and then Published in the Lancet.

New ones Today for you to catch up on here:

"related to cytokine storm induced by virus invasion"

Im Sure you Know Jama?

[link to jamanetwork.com (secure)]

Are you and the sister lab of the government not up to date on a open sourced Published result from teh worlds most prestigious medical journal, that did the first analysis from actual medical records on those whe fell sick?

I also await any answers to the questions I asked in the other thread, it seesm your government Lab is actually unlike the official stance not looking for a Vaccine?

GodBless

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I'm curious about the orf 8 (SARS expansion) mutation that has been found in the sequences from the Shenzhen, US and UK cases.

Last Edited by Scorpionica on 02/07/2020 05:16 PM
"An unfailing experience of mundane events in harmony with the changes occurring in the heavens has instructed and compelled my unwilling belief." Johannes Kepler

"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years..." Genesis 1:14
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Woah, awesome!!
 Quoting: cgip


this is his fist post
[link to ibb.co (secure)]

I asked and he delivered
I am thankful for that, more insight and a lot of smart and cautious answers and advices 001 provided last night,
No sleep for mee yesterday and today

Thread: Covid-19/300 Q-TINED IRAQ P3544/ 7(SK)AFTER VISIT ISRAEL P3546/1ST IRAQ!+3 LEBANON P3549/UAE+2=13 P3551/ITALY 55+2 RIP P3561/IRAN 28+9 RIP? P3563 (Page 2161)

the start

001:
Also please dont think we in the US are not taking this serious.

We are under directive to halt all work except on 2019 NCOV. Atleast here where I work, hence my open admission of VPN use and lack of registration.

You need to understand the stance of a president. If he pays serious attention to this PUBLICLY, you may not panic, but what of the other 330m americans?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1424669


I am certain your team and QEAO team that organizes you
does a great job, President is in a lot of things in front of us all.


What can you share for the in the know, with plausible deniability in place about :

* origins of the virus
* Ro spreading rate
* mortality rate
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78381152

001:

Virus came from Saudi, then Egypt, then Netherlands, then Canada, then Wuhan virus lab then fish and seafood market.
Somewhere in that chain, a bitof indian cavebat got added and some other ingredients from unknown origins.

Ro is somewhere between 4 and 6

mortality rate around 40%

but I'm just an AC...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78381152


Surely not.

40%

FFS. Was this the 001 troll?
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


I assumed that last comment about the Indian cave bat getting in there was someone making a joke.
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The "middle" is the part that exhibits manipulation outside natures way of doing things. Thats what leads our labs to believe it was part of national uni vaccine program against all coronavirus'.
001

Indicator, not confirmation

[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]
As China has expanded its immunisation program over the past decade, substandard vaccines have been a recurring issue. In 2016, $90m in vaccines were found to be stored improperly in Shandong province. The year before, hundreds of children in Henan province reportedly fell ill after being given out-of-date vaccines. In 2010, a newspaper in Shanxi province reported unrefrigerated vaccines had killed four children.

And
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
Emerg Infect Dis. 2005 Jul; 11(7): 1016–1020.
doi: 10.3201/eid1107.050219
PMCID: PMC3371787
PMID: 16022774

Currently, an inactivated SARS-CoV vaccine is in clinical trials in China. Safety is the major concern for this type of vaccine (12).
/
Recombinant vector-based vaccines expressing full-length S protein of the late SARS-CoV are under development. These vaccines can induce potent neutralizing and protective responses in immunized animals but may induce antibodies that enhance infection by early human SARS-CoV and animal SARS-CoV–like viruses (6).

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From - 001

"Ok I understand the hatred. But explain to me this.


They reveal that there is no containment intended, this is a novel virus and NO one has immunity. It has a chance to end your life, and it is highly infectious, so more will die due to medical service overloading.

Now youre all rioting, and my lab finds effective treatment or a way to prevent it harming you to the point of death.

How do you stop the rioting and organize and now hostile population? You dont. You call in FEMA under national security protocols who will be authorized to use lethal force to tame the situation."



siren2


That is what the hoax-tards aren't getting. This 2019-nCoV might otherwise have a low mortality rate if there are enough medical services (most importantly ventilators) to go around. Once those are used up and an exponential amount of people become infected the mortality rate will skyrocket. What about all the people necessary for the continuity of the supply chain? How many truck drivers here in the US are just going to head home and hide out because their jobs aren't worth losing their lives over.


This virus will be the crescendo of this perfect storm that has been brewing here in the US for the past few decades. I hope not but maybe we'll finally see a president declare martial law and fire up the Fema camps many have warned us about.

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This why people are SCREAMING when being taken away. If you have a TEMPERATURE you get INCINERATED ASAP in Marxist-Leninist CHINA!

MILLIONS OF INNOCENT ARE SLATED FOR THE OVENS


ALL INDUSTRY IN CHINA IS AT A HALT.

SMOKE, AIR POLLUTION ARE FROM DISEASED PATIENTS AND DISSIDENTS



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If you look really closely you can see a doctor dressed in the new medical camouflage scrubs taking the temperature of a passenger...the doctor gives them the green light and they aren't incinerated. Totally normal in judeo-communist CCP.
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Non stop flights of Military choppers going back and forth

between Canada and Michigan all morning, not sure how it

is related.
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Yes, I am not there, but I saw over my land mid day. It was very low, and that is not commmon.
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Non stop flights of Military choppers going back and forth

between Canada and Michigan all morning, not sure how it

is related.
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Yes, I am not there, but I saw over my land mid day. It was very low, and that is not commmon.
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02/07/2020 06:03 PM
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Besides myself, I have two other family members who will be with me if we choose to self isolate...I already told them that it will be for the long haul, as when we do get terribly ill, we will not be able to even go to hospital which is approx 25 miles away.

We will choose to die (if it comes to that) with eachother than to do it elsewhere like a trapped animal.

That being said, I will pretty much be the first to go, as I was born with TB. It is in my body. A doctor years ago told me the good news that if my TB was to ever go active, I can ease my mind that I am not a carrier, I am a converter. Meaning my family (as far as TB) are safe, but that disease will chew me up extremely rapidly.

So, I am very well concerned about this shite going around, knowing I myself may not do well at some point soon.

I have left hardcopies manuals that I myself put together for my family in regards to survival, defense, evasion (very vital) and lots of other info, as when something happens to me, my knowledge and experience will be gone.

I suggest any of you parents out there, to gather some good hardcopy info especially for your kids to have. Instead of just toys and games for the kids, if your families need to isolate, TEACH THEM simple sewing, cooking, etc. so they can at least have some knowledge on how to manage things if and when you, the parents, succumb to this virus. SERIOUSLY teach your kids some important stuff, and don't push it under the rug, like it's gonna go away.

The worst thing you can do is leave your kids without any means to try and survive or continue on the best they can.
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02/07/2020 06:05 PM

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But with 19ncov, it may be aiding in causing a cytokine storm, this is unproven without live data, but is a theory we are bouncing around between colleagues.

Again, this is 100% unproven without further testing, just a hypothesis from a fellow here.

-001
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Oh but it has been proven in LIVE DATA in fact in a journal you mention, and on the 24th January 001!

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 Quoting: MostHolyFace


He was responding to my question re: fever friend or foe and why the difference compared to usual illness. Yes we know there is a cytokine storm that is causing complications with nCoV. MSM hasn't talked about the cytokine storm at all that I've seen, and while it's being mentioned in some journals, how to prevent it isn't being focused on. Prevent the cytokine storm and potentially you prevent at least some of the complications.

That sentence taken out of context was responding to the fever possibly aiding in causing the cytokine storm - but this is unproven and just a theory.

I myself have an extremely hard time believing that the fever would be good to suppress - but still am appreciative of hearing ideas whether they're right or wrong. Most of what we have at this point - when it comes to our own actions and assessing our own risk, are nothing more than ideas. We only know right now what we've been allowed to know - which is very little so far as I'm concerned.

So ideas that allow for new points of consideration? I see them as beneficial regardless of whether they're right or wrong. Maybe something correct and helpful will come out of even initially wrong ideas - never know.
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02/07/2020 06:11 PM

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I am on a government oversight committee that meets at the CDC several times each year. During the Ebola Crises in 2014 I was given a personal tour of the Emergency Operations Center and got to meet with the epidemiologists who were in the field in Africa.

The folks I usually work with at the CDC have all been detailed to the Emergency Operations Center to work on the coronavirus response.

What you are being told publicly is not what is being discussed privately, and the private discussions are much worse than you can imagine.
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Thanks for posting.
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MostlyLurking

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02/07/2020 06:13 PM

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Putting this here for consideration: [link to patents.google.com (secure)]

Is this being investigated for use with the nCoV? My laymans' understanding of this is that a component of it breaks down the protein coating around the ebola virus - which is also an RNA virus with a protein coating that allows for increased infectivity before the immune system recognizes it, and allows the immune system to clear it while also allowing people to develop immunity.

Since nCoV seems to share similar traits in being able to go undetected initially while it builds up to a critical mass in the body, perhaps this may be beneficial?

Side note: I don't look up patents regularly - is it showing today's date because I accessed it today, or did something change with this today?
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02/07/2020 06:14 PM
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guys what is the best reasonably priced PPE for this crap? im searching for BLS4 pressurized suits but no price anywhere. reasonable cost: <50k usd

thanks
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Look at Kappler. You looking for an airline or SCBA?
Deplorable Revbo™  (OP)

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02/07/2020 06:18 PM

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You know when you question "Why are you doing that when we already know it doesn't work?"

Either the answer is you're dealing with idiots in authority, or the desired outcome they are going for isn't the one you think it is.


If

A) a high fever only becomes present when someone with the virus begins to have organ trouble, i.e. becomes serious,

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B) if people are being screened for fever...which they are at airports, borders, in some quarantine cities

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The answer to "Why are they fever screening when it doesn't screen for the virus or help with containment, it only tags severe cases?" is:

C) we are past containment, they are simply doing triage and trying to target the cases who are going to need emergency treatment

Prove me wrong.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Ever since I heard that the incubation period is so long, I’ve thought that the temperature checks are, like everything TSA does, just security theater, meant to make you feel like they’re doing something but not even remotely effective. Adds to the idea that containment is not really the goal and they’re just buying time.
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