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BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!

 
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BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
ATLANTA (Gray News) – America’s flu season is still going strong but has eased a bit, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday.
The CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 29 million flu illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths from flu.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
That's the sort of numbers we can expect Covid-19 to eventually have, as they have warned us it will become like the seasonal flus, getting into everywhere every year.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
That's the sort of numbers we can expect Covid-19 to eventually have, as they have warned us it will become like the seasonal flus, getting into everywhere every year.
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and once the vaccine comes out and Trump forced you to take it

covid-21 will come out


the covid-22


and so on and so fort
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
That's the sort of numbers we can expect Covid-19 to eventually have, as they have warned us it will become like the seasonal flus, getting into everywhere every year.
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and once the vaccine comes out and Trump forced you to take it

covid-21 will come out


the covid-22


and so on and so fort
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69524793


There is no such thing as a vaccine for a corona-virus, in my opinion. There is not one for SARS, there is not one for MERS, and there definitely is not one for the coronavirus that we've been catching all our lives.. the common cold.

What makes you think they will magically produce one for Covid-19 suddenly?
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
ATLANTA (Gray News) – America’s flu season is still going strong but has eased a bit, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday.
The CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 29 million flu illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths from flu.
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That’s a drop in the damn bucket and you know it!
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
That's the sort of numbers we can expect Covid-19 to eventually have, as they have warned us it will become like the seasonal flus, getting into everywhere every year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78489110


and once the vaccine comes out and Trump forced you to take it

covid-21 will come out


the covid-22


and so on and so fort
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69524793


There is no such thing as a vaccine for a corona-virus, in my opinion. There is not one for SARS, there is not one for MERS, and there definitely is not one for the coronavirus that we've been catching all our lives.. the common cold.

What makes you think they will magically produce one for Covid-19 suddenly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78489110


Because people are too stupid to realize the truth about common mutating viruses and will want a 'vaccine-cure' (aka placebo) for their ease-of-mind.

Dumbed-down sheep.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
Trying to anchor a high number in the public consciousness to make Corona look small in comparison.

"See, the flu killed 16,000 and nobody noticed. Don't worry, John public, about a few thousand from Corona virus"

Meantime the bunker is getting fresh shipments of bleach, masks, and canned chili.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
That's the sort of numbers we can expect Covid-19 to eventually have, as they have warned us it will become like the seasonal flus, getting into everywhere every year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78489110


CoViD-19, allegedly, has a death rate of 2%, although it's most likely a lot higher than that, but let's just use that number. From the numbers in the OP, they anticipate a flu death rate of .00055. CoViD's, by comparison, is .02. That makes CoViD about 40 times more deadly. If CoVid becomes endemic, as you mention and as we have seen very credibly predicted, and only spreads as fast as the flu (and most estimates put its R0 considerably higher than flu), that would mean 580,000 people will die from it every year given an annual infection rate of 29 million. Those most likely lowball numbers would make it the third leading cause of death in the US, just below heart disease and a very close third to cancer. If you tweak the death rate a bit and set it at just 3%, it blows past both of them to become the leading cause of death.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
Trying to anchor a high number in the public consciousness to make Corona look small in comparison.

"See, the flu killed 16,000 and nobody noticed. Don't worry, John public, about a few thousand from Corona virus"

Meantime the bunker is getting fresh shipments of bleach, masks, and canned chili.
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hesright

I've seen this Article written 100 different ways in a direct reply to anything closely related to Coronavirus Since this all hit the radar in January.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
Trying to anchor a high number in the public consciousness to make Corona look small in comparison.

"See, the flu killed 16,000 and nobody noticed. Don't worry, John public, about a few thousand from Corona virus"

Meantime the bunker is getting fresh shipments of bleach, masks, and canned chili.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78481787


hesright

I've seen this Article written 100 different ways in a direct reply to anything closely related to Coronavirus Since this all hit the radar in January.
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I'm sure plenty of folks were saying the same thing about Spanish Flu when it was just getting started. It went on to kill 50 million people in three years.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
They are still downplaying the numbers

The worst case scenario is much worse than that.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
How many cities closed? SW-sawitcomin
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
Will we have your attention when it’s 10 times or 100 times that amount? HEADS UP FUCKERS!!!
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
That's the sort of numbers we can expect Covid-19 to eventually have, as they have warned us it will become like the seasonal flus, getting into everywhere every year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78489110


CoViD-19, allegedly, has a death rate of 2%, although it's most likely a lot higher than that, but let's just use that number. From the numbers in the OP, they anticipate a flu death rate of .00055. CoViD's, by comparison, is .02. That makes CoViD about 40 times more deadly. If CoVid becomes endemic, as you mention and as we have seen very credibly predicted, and only spreads as fast as the flu (and most estimates put its R0 considerably higher than flu), that would mean 580,000 people will die from it every year given an annual infection rate of 29 million. Those most likely lowball numbers would make it the third leading cause of death in the US, just below heart disease and a very close third to cancer. If you tweak the death rate a bit and set it at just 3%, it blows past both of them to become the leading cause of death.
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I'm glad someone in here has some Godamned sense.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
Yawn. It will be considered my deadly once it kills 1 million of the 7 Billion on the planet. Until then, it’s nothing.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
That's the sort of numbers we can expect Covid-19 to eventually have, as they have warned us it will become like the seasonal flus, getting into everywhere every year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78489110


CoViD-19, allegedly, has a death rate of 2%, although it's most likely a lot higher than that, but let's just use that number. From the numbers in the OP, they anticipate a flu death rate of .00055. CoViD's, by comparison, is .02. That makes CoViD about 40 times more deadly. If CoVid becomes endemic, as you mention and as we have seen very credibly predicted, and only spreads as fast as the flu (and most estimates put its R0 considerably higher than flu), that would mean 580,000 people will die from it every year given an annual infection rate of 29 million. Those most likely lowball numbers would make it the third leading cause of death in the US, just below heart disease and a very close third to cancer. If you tweak the death rate a bit and set it at just 3%, it blows past both of them to become the leading cause of death.
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Very well thought out post. I well admit that the point of my post was to make sure folk realized those weren't Covid-19 numbers the OP was posting ;)
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
That's the sort of numbers we can expect Covid-19 to eventually have, as they have warned us it will become like the seasonal flus, getting into everywhere every year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78489110


and once the vaccine comes out and Trump forced you to take it

covid-21 will come out


the covid-22


and so on and so fort
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69524793


There is no such thing as a vaccine for a corona-virus, in my opinion. There is not one for SARS, there is not one for MERS, and there definitely is not one for the coronavirus that we've been catching all our lives.. the common cold.

What makes you think they will magically produce one for Covid-19 suddenly?
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They won't, and if they have something it will just be a placebo, like most of the drugs already out there.

Pharmaceuticals are the second biggest money maker in the world, behind oil.


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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
There is no such thing as a vaccine for a corona-virus, in my opinion. There is not one for SARS, there is not one for MERS, and there definitely is not one for the coronavirus that we've been catching all our lives.. the common cold.

What makes you think they will magically produce one for Covid-19 suddenly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78489110


They won't, and if they have something it will just be a placebo, like most of the drugs already out there.

Pharmaceuticals are the second biggest money maker in the world, behind oil.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78458193


Ponder on this: Is it more profitable to cure the disease, or to sell symptom alleviation (cough medicine and the like)?
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
They are still downplaying the numbers

The worst case scenario is much worse than that.
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Did you get that intel from your "uncle?"
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
Yawn. It will be considered my deadly once it kills 1 million of the 7 Billion on the planet. Until then, it’s nothing.
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You are not paying attention, it is not the virus you should fear ... martial law is coming to the U.S.cities on lockdown.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
Once the hospital ICUs fill up the mortality rate will go a lot higher.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
They are still downplaying the numbers

The worst case scenario is much worse than that.
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Did you get that intel from your "uncle?"
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No, scientists - not uncles -- have said that this pandemic MAY reach 70 percent of the earth's population.


That would be a lot more than 29 million in the US.

But believe what you want.

The government loves you.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
29 million is how many get flu each year.

That is what they are comparing this to.

But they may be wrong.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
That's the sort of numbers we can expect Covid-19 to eventually have, as they have warned us it will become like the seasonal flus, getting into everywhere every year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78489110


CoViD-19, allegedly, has a death rate of 2%, although it's most likely a lot higher than that, but let's just use that number. From the numbers in the OP, they anticipate a flu death rate of .00055. CoViD's, by comparison, is .02. That makes CoViD about 40 times more deadly. If CoVid becomes endemic, as you mention and as we have seen very credibly predicted, and only spreads as fast as the flu (and most estimates put its R0 considerably higher than flu), that would mean 580,000 people will die from it every year given an annual infection rate of 29 million. Those most likely lowball numbers would make it the third leading cause of death in the US, just below heart disease and a very close third to cancer. If you tweak the death rate a bit and set it at just 3%, it blows past both of them to become the leading cause of death.
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If the death rate is just 3%, that means you would stand roughly a 1 in 300 chance of dying from CoViD every year for the rest of your life and, unlike heart disease or cancer, there's not a thing you could do, short of not leaving the house, ever, to prevent it. Touching any random doorknob or elevator button or walking through the wrong crosswalk at the wrong time could kill you. If, as a lot of us suspect, the death rate is closer to 10%, your odds went to 1 in a 100 of dying from this. Every year. Forever. And that's assuming it is only as infectious as influenza. If it's twice as infectious as flu and has a 10% death rate, your odds just went to 1 in 50.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
That's the sort of numbers we can expect Covid-19 to eventually have, as they have warned us it will become like the seasonal flus, getting into everywhere every year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78489110


CoViD-19, allegedly, has a death rate of 2%, although it's most likely a lot higher than that, but let's just use that number. From the numbers in the OP, they anticipate a flu death rate of .00055. CoViD's, by comparison, is .02. That makes CoViD about 40 times more deadly. If CoVid becomes endemic, as you mention and as we have seen very credibly predicted, and only spreads as fast as the flu (and most estimates put its R0 considerably higher than flu), that would mean 580,000 people will die from it every year given an annual infection rate of 29 million. Those most likely lowball numbers would make it the third leading cause of death in the US, just below heart disease and a very close third to cancer. If you tweak the death rate a bit and set it at just 3%, it blows past both of them to become the leading cause of death.
 Quoting: Revbo™


Wrong, Covid-19 almost certainly has a real death rate of under 1%. Most cases are not detected, so only the moderate and severe are being tallied. Not to mention most people dieing are age 70+.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
CDC estimates* that, from October 1, 2019, through February 15, 2020, there have been:

-29,000,000 – 41,000,000 flu illnesses
-13,000,000 – 19,000,000 flu medical visits
-280,000 – 500,000 flu hospitalizations
-16,000 – 41,000 flu deaths


This already happend!!

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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
Yawn. It will be considered my deadly once it kills 1 million of the 7 Billion on the planet. Until then, it’s nothing.
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The death rate in Italy right now is 3%.

If 1,000,000,000 (one billion) people get infected, at 3% that's 30,000,000 (30 million) deaths.

3 people out of 100 people doesn't sound like much, but when the infection rate is extremely high, it could be really bad.




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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
CDC estimates* that, from October 1, 2019, through February 15, 2020, there have been:

-29,000,000 – 41,000,000 flu illnesses
-13,000,000 – 19,000,000 flu medical visits
-280,000 – 500,000 flu hospitalizations
-16,000 – 41,000 flu deaths


This already happend!!

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77416446


That's exactly where they are getting their "prediction" for coronavirus.

This is all POLITICAL b.s.
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Re: BREAKING: CDC estimates 29 million illnesses, 280,000 hospitalizations and 16,000 deaths!
They are still downplaying the numbers

The worst case scenario is much worse than that.
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You have been banned from the OP of this thread from posting on his threads.





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