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Genuine question for 'flat earthers'

 
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Genuine question for 'flat earthers'
How do you account for the fact that the relative size of the sun in the sky never changes between sun rise to sun set?

If the sun is indeed, as you people suggest, circling above the flat 'pancake earth' , then it would have to appear growing and shrinking through out the day.

Does 'flat earth' theory account for this basic observation?



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as the saying goes, it's difficult to win an argument with a genius, but impossible to win with an idiot.
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Re: Genuine question for 'flat earthers'
Why do you care what people believe simply because you disagree with them?

Seems like an odd obsession.
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Re: Genuine question for 'flat earthers'
How do you account for the fact that the relative size of the sun in the sky never changes between sun rise to sun set?

If the sun is indeed, as you people suggest, circling above the flat 'pancake earth' , then it would have to appear growing and shrinking through out the day.

Does 'flat earth' theory account for this basic observation?


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flat sun
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Why do you care what people believe simply because you disagree with them?

Seems like an odd obsession.
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have you ever asked a flatty that same question?
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Re: Genuine question for 'flat earthers'
as the saying goes, it's difficult to win an argument with a genius, but impossible to win with an idiot.
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True.

Still, you'd think some 'flat earther' would have wondered about this question.

This is a very easy experiment to run.

If the Sun's size doesn't change throughout the day, then it can't be smaller than the earth and circling back and forth around the flat disk.

A child could understand this.
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Why do you care what people believe simply because you disagree with them?

Seems like an odd obsession.
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'Flat earthers' keep trying to prove to the world that they know the truth, and that everything science has taught us is wrong to the point of involving a gigantic world wide conspiracy, and that everyone who thinks otherwise is a sheep.

I ask one single thing.

Prove to me that the sun's relative size changes throughout the day, and I'll be convinced.
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Re: Genuine question for 'flat earthers'
How do you account for the fact that the relative size of the sun in the sky never changes between sun rise to sun set?

If the sun is indeed, as you people suggest, circling above the flat 'pancake earth' , then it would have to appear growing and shrinking through out the day.

Does 'flat earth' theory account for this basic observation?


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The sun is high enough above earth for a few thousand mile difference not to be a factor in the suns size.
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as the saying goes, it's difficult to win an argument with a genius, but impossible to win with an idiot.
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The ones debating flat earthers are the biggest idiots of all.
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How do you account for the fact that the relative size of the sun in the sky never changes between sun rise to sun set?

If the sun is indeed, as you people suggest, circling above the flat 'pancake earth' , then it would have to appear growing and shrinking through out the day.

Does 'flat earth' theory account for this basic observation?


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The sun is high enough above earth for a few thousand mile difference not to be a factor in the suns size.
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Have you (or any 'flat earther') ever tried to calculate how high that would need to be using simple geometry?

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as the saying goes, it's difficult to win an argument with a genius, but impossible to win with an idiot.
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The ones debating flat earthers are the biggest idiots of all.
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Dude I'm just curious .. this is not a debate by any means.
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Re: Genuine question for 'flat earthers'
Flat earthers have some intriguing arguments (such as water doesn't bend), but my satellite dish points up and my GPS works in the wilderness (therefore doesn't use cell towers for location.

So I'd say it's round.
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as the saying goes, it's difficult to win an argument with a genius, but impossible to win with an idiot.
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The ones debating flat earthers are the biggest idiots of all.
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Re: Genuine question for 'flat earthers'
Flat earthers have some intriguing arguments (such as water doesn't bend), but my satellite dish points up and my GPS works in the wilderness (therefore doesn't use cell towers for location.

So I'd say it's round.
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It looks like their entire approach is a 'faith based' one.
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Flat earthers have some intriguing arguments (such as water doesn't bend), but my satellite dish points up and my GPS works in the wilderness (therefore doesn't use cell towers for location.

So I'd say it's round.
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It looks like their entire approach is a 'faith based' one.
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one of the arguments for flat earth is that it's predicated in the Bible, and the "globe theory" is pushed to blind you to the truth. The truth being that God exists and this world is the center of the universe. To a dedicated flatty, the existence of God and a spherical Earth are mutually exclusive.
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Re: Genuine question for 'flat earthers'
Or this...

Why do people in the southern hemisphere in DIFFERENT CONTINENTS all see the same night sky if they are really peering outward from the edge of a disc?

This is not complicated.


Fluthers/Nothingburgers are like the new Flat Earthers...

:fact:
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as the saying goes, it's difficult to win an argument with a genius, but impossible to win with an idiot.
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The ones debating flat earthers are the biggest idiots of all.
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Dude I'm just curious .. this is not a debate by any means.
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yea, i'd like to hear the explanation too...usually they have one... guess is something to do w size and distance of the sun...

the basic problem also is that anything is possible but often we are given fabricated notions by tptb to fit the agenda of "evolution-no-God-we-have-no-purpose-humans-bad"...which is an agenda we might expect from fallen angels who hate us and run all the rich people... round or flat, the earth is in the center of the uni-verse

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But, but... I need an electron microscope and a front row seat to a SARS-Cov-19 dissection/autopsy to feel a need to prepare or take it seriously...

rofl
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Or this...

Why do people in the southern hemisphere in DIFFERENT CONTINENTS all see the same night sky if they are really peering outward from the edge of a disc?

This is not complicated.


Fluthers/Nothingburgers are like the new Flat Earthers...

fact
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The only way this could work is if 'Flat Earth' was a wacky simulation.
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The sun doesn't always appear to be the same size you half-wit.



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Learn how your eyes create an illusion for your brain
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The sun doesn't always appear to be the same size you half-wit.



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Sun is always the same size if you use the same zoom settings & a solar filter.

You can't use to videos using different zoom settings to make that point



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But, but... I need an electron microscope and a front row seat to a SARS-Cov-19 dissection/autopsy to feel a need to prepare or take it seriously...

rofl
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It seems to be all related to an inability to think beyond the 5 senses.
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“The Principle”, brings to light new scientific observations challenging the Copernican Principle. The film brings before the public eye astonishing results from recent large-scale surveys of our Universe which disclose surprising evidence of a preferred direction in the cosmos, aligned with our supposedly insignificant Earth. The film explores from all sides the question of Earth’s station in the universe and whether it could, in fact, have a unique importance.”
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"The Principle" Movie Trailer 2015




“The Principle”, brings to light new scientific observations challenging the Copernican Principle. The film brings before the public eye astonishing results from recent large-scale surveys of our Universe which disclose surprising evidence of a preferred direction in the cosmos, aligned with our supposedly insignificant Earth. The film explores from all sides the question of Earth’s station in the universe and whether it could, in fact, have a unique importance.”
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OK.. I asked for a simple thing like 2+2

you come back to me with String theory.

Thanks anyway.
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Re: Genuine question for 'flat earthers'
How do you account for the fact that the relative size of the sun in the sky never changes between sun rise to sun set?

If the sun is indeed, as you people suggest, circling above the flat 'pancake earth' , then it would have to appear growing and shrinking through out the day.

Does 'flat earth' theory account for this basic observation?


 Quoting: JADR+


From the right altitude and under the right atmospheric conditions with a solar filter, the sun does change size.

Over the ocean the suns light and shape are distorted due to high amounts of moisture.

This effect can be replicated by shining a flash light through a glass of water.
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The sun doesn't always appear to be the same size you half-wit.



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Are you serious? If you are, then there's no point arguing with you, because you aren't capable of comprehending reality in any way.

Halfwit? Lol
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The sun doesn't always appear to be the same size you half-wit.



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Sun is always the same size if you use the same zoom settings & a solar filter.

You can't use to videos using different zoom settings to make that point


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You cant use one video to prove yours.

Go in the mountains and watch the sun through a filter over land not water.
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Re: Genuine question for 'flat earthers'
How do you account for the fact that the relative size of the sun in the sky never changes between sun rise to sun set?

If the sun is indeed, as you people suggest, circling above the flat 'pancake earth' , then it would have to appear growing and shrinking through out the day.

Does 'flat earth' theory account for this basic observation?


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From the right altitude and under the right atmospheric conditions with a solar filter, the sun does change size.

Over the ocean the suns light and shape are distorted due to high amounts of moisture.

This effect can be replicated by shining a flash light through a glass of water.
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Yes... if you the atmospheric conditions change, optics will be affected.

If the atmospheric conditions are identical through out the day .. would the relative size of the sun change? 3000+ years of observation say "no"
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Or this...

Why do people in the southern hemisphere in DIFFERENT CONTINENTS all see the same night sky if they are really peering outward from the edge of a disc?

This is not complicated.


Fluthers/Nothingburgers are like the new Flat Earthers...

:fact:
 Quoting: BFD


Ever heard of this thing called perspective?

Critical thinking isnt your strong suit.

Now go take your corona vaccine like the good little sheep you are.
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The sun doesn't always appear to be the same size you half-wit.



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78224348


Sun is always the same size if you use the same zoom settings & a solar filter.

You can't use to videos using different zoom settings to make that point


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You cant use one video to prove yours.

Go in the mountains and watch the sun through a filter over land not water.
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I don't have anything to prove ... 'Flat Earthers' do.
The experiment is simple to do - any flat earther can do it...

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