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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77115199 Austria 04/13/2020 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FFS there's a huge hole in your theory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77115199 Are all the old grannies and grandpops that die taking the drugs you talk of? no they have bad immune systems because of age, the healthy people have either over reactive immune systems or those using performance enhancing drugs have abnormal red blood cell counts leading to rapid infection faster than the immune system can respond. basically its a bell curve, anybody in the centre will be fine but the statistical outliers, ie people with immune responce out of the norm, or physiological factors out of the norm are at risk. So healthy normal people fine, everybody else is outside the norm. As i said, if EPO use is a factor id imagine some endurance althetes and perhaps those who live at very high altitude would be seeing higher mortality than average here. I can see some sense in this as from what I have read it is your own bodies response via the immune system that 'over-loads' your (lungs to start with) and you suffocate from the crap that accumulates. This then leads to rapid organ failure, your body shuts down. So an 'average' immune system stands a better chance of survival... |
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AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 78791257 United States 04/13/2020 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Norwalk, Connecticut is where this occurred. And as far as I know, that hospital isn't exactly overflowing with COVID patients, so I really question him being essentially denied (earlier) hospitalization. I smell a potential lawsuit brewing here! Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 04/13/2020 04:33 PM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78782841 United Kingdom 04/13/2020 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Testing in my state over the past couple weeks has been an absolute clusterfuck of epic proportions! Quoting: AkashicRecord® I know its the same everywhere, the problem is the testing is time consuming, multi tier for accuracy and basically expensive. Until we have a accurate ELISA test for example, like 99% accurate we are not going to have much luck, i cant see that happening anti time soon, its going to take months. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78782841 United Kingdom 04/13/2020 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me guess, he died after a fork lift ran over his head and the hospital, with directives from the CDC, claimed it was COVID-19 related? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72713111 Have some fucking respect asshole, this shit is killing people ffs. The CDC and WHO all need sacking imo, people can blame the president all they want but the presidents job isnt to be a fucking phd epidemiologist, virologist and genetic engineer, the WHO and CDC scientists and DHS are paid hundreds of thousands for this and they fucked this up badly they should all be sacked, all of them, shit some of them should be tried for negligent homicide or industrial homicide. |
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AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 78321254 United States 04/13/2020 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me guess, he died after a fork lift ran over his head and the hospital, with directives from the CDC, claimed it was COVID-19 related? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72713111 Have some fucking respect asshole, this shit is killing people ffs. The CDC and WHO all need sacking imo, people can blame the president all they want but the presidents job isnt to be a fucking phd epidemiologist, virologist and genetic engineer, the WHO and CDC scientists and DHS are paid hundreds of thousands for this and they fucked this up badly they should all be sacked, all of them, shit some of them should be tried for negligent homicide or industrial homicide. Unfortunately, there seems to be a shortage of tact on GLP these days! Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 04/13/2020 05:30 PM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
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(OP) User ID: 78321254 United States 04/13/2020 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.theridgefieldpress.com (secure)] Here's a local news article from a different site, as the original paper is not exactly free to read online... :P Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78140837 Canada 04/13/2020 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart ... Quoting: AkashicRecord® So it wasn't Covid-19. The blood clots are being seen in covid patients according to my sis who is a nurse on the front lines. Problem is in some patients, even when a clot busting drug is used, the cots come back and the entire system becomes a clotted mess, till you die. So it could very well be covid. It effects different folk in different ways. |
Red Hot Chilean Pepe
User ID: 76933812 Chile 04/13/2020 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart ... Quoting: AkashicRecord® So it wasn't Covid-19. The blood clots are being seen in covid patients according to my sis who is a nurse on the front lines. Problem is in some patients, even when a clot busting drug is used, the cots come back and the entire system becomes a clotted mess, till you die. So it could very well be covid. It effects different folk in different ways. This is beginning to be recognized as one of the more lethal complications of Covid-19 and specially being reported by Nurses who see it happening and feel absolutely powerless by how quickly it can onset and kill the patient. All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4781216 United States 04/13/2020 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He did not die of "the virus." There is NO test for "the virus." He died because people VERY OFTEN get sick and die. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46432626 are you going on what the lizard man said about PCR being used, because you do know PCR only amplifies genetic material present in a sample right, thats not how they actually test it, thats just how they replicate enough of the dna to do something like a SNP( single nucleotide polymorphism ) cleave using deoxyribonuclease enzymes which cleave at certain nucleotide points in the dna strain, they then uses gel electrophorresis with a flourescent dna binder to produce an image under uv light that lines the dna fragments up in a unique image which is called a dna fingerprint which is calibrated using a dna fingerprint from the original virus genotype! You know all this right? Wrong. Read this. [link to theinfectiousmyth.com (secure)] |
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Redcat User ID: 78210603 United States 04/13/2020 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a shame when they are still treating this as pneumonia when they know better. people need not die. this amounts to medical malpractice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73531925 people are desaturating oxygen from their blood. they need a transfusion or some drugs to treat this. The problem with this person's case was that he was told to stay home when he originally wanted to go to the hospital. In the ensuing week his fever spiked and he had developed trouble breathing. I imagine the doctors assumed he would be fine, especially considering what shape he was in, and his age. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? It only took him a few days to die after that point, especially once ventilated, and he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart, etc. I'm imagining a cytokine storm and so on facilitated everything, which seems typical in these severe cases. The damnedest things can kill you when this shit ultimately goes south. Same thing with severe influenza, of course... We are all collecting some money here at work for the family. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? This is confusing. Going off-label is legal and common. If a real doctor provides a real prescription the pharmacy should fill it. Period. |
AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 78663005 United States 04/13/2020 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart ... Quoting: AkashicRecord® So it wasn't Covid-19. The blood clots are being seen in covid patients according to my sis who is a nurse on the front lines. Problem is in some patients, even when a clot busting drug is used, the cots come back and the entire system becomes a clotted mess, till you die. So it could very well be covid. It effects different folk in different ways. This is beginning to be recognized as one of the more lethal complications of Covid-19 and specially being reported by Nurses who see it happening and feel absolutely powerless by how quickly it can onset and kill the patient. Thanks Pepe and #78140837! Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 78663005 United States 04/13/2020 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a shame when they are still treating this as pneumonia when they know better. people need not die. this amounts to medical malpractice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73531925 people are desaturating oxygen from their blood. they need a transfusion or some drugs to treat this. The problem with this person's case was that he was told to stay home when he originally wanted to go to the hospital. In the ensuing week his fever spiked and he had developed trouble breathing. I imagine the doctors assumed he would be fine, especially considering what shape he was in, and his age. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? It only took him a few days to die after that point, especially once ventilated, and he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart, etc. I'm imagining a cytokine storm and so on facilitated everything, which seems typical in these severe cases. The damnedest things can kill you when this shit ultimately goes south. Same thing with severe influenza, of course... We are all collecting some money here at work for the family. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? This is confusing. Going off-label is legal and common. If a real doctor provides a real prescription the pharmacy should fill it. Period. Yeah, I'm aware of off-label use since I'd had prescriptions for myself that were off-label...but the family reported this to the news, so it's the official story. I'm wondering if there's a good ground for legal recourse for the family here because of it. Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
Red Hot Chilean Pepe
User ID: 76933812 Chile 04/13/2020 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The blood clots are being seen in covid patients according to my sis who is a nurse on the front lines. Problem is in some patients, even when a clot busting drug is used, the cots come back and the entire system becomes a clotted mess, till you die. So it could very well be covid. It effects different folk in different ways. This is beginning to be recognized as one of the more lethal complications of Covid-19 and specially being reported by Nurses who see it happening and feel absolutely powerless by how quickly it can onset and kill the patient. Thanks Pepe and #78140837! We are all in the same boat, so we need to better understand this damned killer biological nanomachine. This article is very cautious but the bottomline is that the virus causes abnormal blood clotting and also cardiopathy by attacking the ACE2 receptors in the miocites (cardiac muscle cells). So the "it's just the flu" crowd can go fornicate themselves. [link to www.idse.net (secure)] All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76564742 United States 04/13/2020 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This person is one of the youngest in my state to die from this virus as he was only 30 years old and passed on Saturday. He was the younger brother of a teacher that works at my (closed) school, and he did some after school gym activities a few days out of the week. He was a personal trainer and was healthy and in good shape. Quoting: AkashicRecord® I didn't know he died until noticing his picture on the front page of today's newspaper; his sister contributed his photograph. His bout with the virus lasted from March 24 through April 11 before he succumbed to multiple organ failure quite rapidly. He was on a ventilator but that didn't save his life. He was one of the rare cases where having a stellar immune system made the situation worse than what would be considered a "normal" response... Furthermore, it was mentioned that a pharmacy refused to fill an anti-malarial drug prescription because of FDA approval issues, and he was also told to continue to stay home, essentially denying him early hospitalization...both factors may have saved his life! Now it makes sense why this wasn’t pinned because it proves “RATIONING” care is absolutely taking place |
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Theobromine The Deplorable
User ID: 9374930 United States 04/13/2020 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Murder Pharmacist refusing a prescription when his DOCTOR wrote it? Definitely an anti- Trumper God damn him to hell for the murder of this man I hope his family sues - even when it won’t do any good "What are you helping with all this helping?" Buddhist saying |
Theobromine The Deplorable
User ID: 9374930 United States 04/13/2020 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do you find out your blood type ? I know they do it before surgery - but I was never told and it’s been 30 years since I had surgery Is it in your annual blood test records for Cholesterol and stuff? "What are you helping with all this helping?" Buddhist saying |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78791103 United States 04/13/2020 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a shame when they are still treating this as pneumonia when they know better. people need not die. this amounts to medical malpractice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73531925 people are desaturating oxygen from their blood. they need a transfusion or some drugs to treat this. The problem with this person's case was that he was told to stay home when he originally wanted to go to the hospital. In the ensuing week his fever spiked and he had developed trouble breathing. I imagine the doctors assumed he would be fine, especially considering what shape he was in, and his age. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? It only took him a few days to die after that point, especially once ventilated, and he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart, etc. I'm imagining a cytokine storm and so on facilitated everything, which seems typical in these severe cases. The damnedest things can kill you when this shit ultimately goes south. Same thing with severe influenza, of course... We are all collecting some money here at work for the family. We really must stop with the political shilling. There is zero proof this drug would have saved him whatsoever. And believe me I've searched for multiple examples outside some fraud news Lazarus effect political points. I need documented scientified proof. There is none. France, Brazil, Sweden, etc all have discontinued the use due to what they have seen on the front lines. There is zero guarantee it would have done anything at all. And had it done nothing, and there are cases where it hadn't done anything, no one would have said a word about it. |
Redcat1
Redcat User ID: 78210603 United States 04/13/2020 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a shame when they are still treating this as pneumonia when they know better. people need not die. this amounts to medical malpractice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73531925 people are desaturating oxygen from their blood. they need a transfusion or some drugs to treat this. The problem with this person's case was that he was told to stay home when he originally wanted to go to the hospital. In the ensuing week his fever spiked and he had developed trouble breathing. I imagine the doctors assumed he would be fine, especially considering what shape he was in, and his age. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? It only took him a few days to die after that point, especially once ventilated, and he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart, etc. I'm imagining a cytokine storm and so on facilitated everything, which seems typical in these severe cases. The damnedest things can kill you when this shit ultimately goes south. Same thing with severe influenza, of course... We are all collecting some money here at work for the family. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? This is confusing. Going off-label is legal and common. If a real doctor provides a real prescription the pharmacy should fill it. Period. Yeah, I'm aware of off-label use since I'd had prescriptions for myself that were off-label...but the family reported this to the news, so it's the official story. I'm wondering if there's a good ground for legal recourse for the family here because of it. Absolutely it is. Doctors write, pharmacies fill. But if one pharmacy did not fill it, it seems they could have gone to another that would (or should). Unless they were acting in concert and/or under direction of Governor or other state entity. Sorry for your loss. |
AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 78663005 United States 04/13/2020 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Murder Quoting: Theobromine The Deplorable Pharmacist refusing a prescription when his DOCTOR wrote it? Definitely an anti- Trumper God damn him to hell for the murder of this man I hope his family sues - even when it won’t do any good I'm agreeing rather strongly here. A doctor's judgement call was potentially superseded by what? ...a pharmacy policy??? Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
Redcat1
Redcat User ID: 78210603 United States 04/13/2020 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a shame when they are still treating this as pneumonia when they know better. people need not die. this amounts to medical malpractice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73531925 people are desaturating oxygen from their blood. they need a transfusion or some drugs to treat this. The problem with this person's case was that he was told to stay home when he originally wanted to go to the hospital. In the ensuing week his fever spiked and he had developed trouble breathing. I imagine the doctors assumed he would be fine, especially considering what shape he was in, and his age. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? It only took him a few days to die after that point, especially once ventilated, and he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart, etc. I'm imagining a cytokine storm and so on facilitated everything, which seems typical in these severe cases. The damnedest things can kill you when this shit ultimately goes south. Same thing with severe influenza, of course... We are all collecting some money here at work for the family. We really must stop with the political shilling. There is zero proof this drug would have saved him whatsoever. And believe me I've searched for multiple examples outside some fraud news Lazarus effect political points. I need documented scientified proof. There is none. France, Brazil, Sweden, etc all have discontinued the use due to what they have seen on the front lines. There is zero guarantee it would have done anything at all. And had it done nothing, and there are cases where it hadn't done anything, no one would have said a word about it. It works, it has worked for years. It has worked against SARS. The studies are there. Grandmothers are familiar with the power of chloroquine - they took as kids as an anti-viral. It allows the zinc in into the cells. This treatment is critical and best if applied early. |
AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 78663005 United States 04/13/2020 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now it makes sense why this wasn’t pinned because it proves “RATIONING” care is absolutely taking place Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76564742 This is looking to be more of the case, though I don't discount things like drug shortages, etc...but only in some cases. Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
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User ID: 76863067 United States 04/13/2020 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a shame when they are still treating this as pneumonia when they know better. people need not die. this amounts to medical malpractice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73531925 people are desaturating oxygen from their blood. they need a transfusion or some drugs to treat this. The problem with this person's case was that he was told to stay home when he originally wanted to go to the hospital. In the ensuing week his fever spiked and he had developed trouble breathing. I imagine the doctors assumed he would be fine, especially considering what shape he was in, and his age. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? It only took him a few days to die after that point, especially once ventilated, and he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart, etc. I'm imagining a cytokine storm and so on facilitated everything, which seems typical in these severe cases. The damnedest things can kill you when this shit ultimately goes south. Same thing with severe influenza, of course... We are all collecting some money here at work for the family. We really must stop with the political shilling. There is zero proof this drug would have saved him whatsoever. And believe me I've searched for multiple examples outside some fraud news Lazarus effect political points. I need documented scientified proof. There is none. France, Brazil, Sweden, etc all have discontinued the use due to what they have seen on the front lines. There is zero guarantee it would have done anything at all. And had it done nothing, and there are cases where it hadn't done anything, no one would have said a word about it. It works, it has worked for years. It has worked against SARS. The studies are there. Grandmothers are familiar with the power of chloroquine - they took as kids as an anti-viral. It allows the zinc in into the cells. This treatment is critical and best if applied early. I know several who were able to be treated by it and they were cured, nothing political about it! |
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User ID: 77354011 United States 04/13/2020 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was he very very healthy? ie the type to use steroids and performance enhancing drugs? for increasing athletic performance and physical fitness? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78782841 I have a theory that people who have used certain types of metabolic enhancement hormones or drugs like epo accelerate the spread of the virus in their bodies, somebody uses epo for example for high oxygen blood replenishment and higher than normal blood cell turnover may have actually put themselves in high risk groups. Elite athlete cyclists, rowers etc and explosive weightlifters and possibly boxers/kickboxers brazilian jujtisu practitioners would fit this bill. There have been quite a few high level athletes who have died, a female swimmer was one of them, it would make sense she would be using PEDS like EPO, or inhalation steroids. FFS there's a huge hole in your theory. Are all the old grannies and grandpops that die taking the drugs you talk of? many older people get EPO type drugs, especially common in elderly dialysis patients, practically routine for them. other disorders put the elderly on EPOs too. not uncommon. Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |