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| AkashicRecord®
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| AkashicRecord®
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73531925  United Kingdom04/13/2020 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | people are desaturating oxygen from their blood. they need a transfusion or some drugs to treat this. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78445863 United States04/13/2020 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apparently Blood type is the determining factor on how severe it gets, much like Malaria. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73573537 Blood Type A = Severe Blood Type O = Mild The study came out of China (if you can believe anything coming out of China) and it showed that A was somewhat more likely to get the disease and O was somewhat less likely to get the disease. It didn't go into how mild or severe the cases were. "They found that in the normal population, type A was 31 percent, type B was 24 percent, type AB was 9 percent, and type O was 34 percent. In those with the virus, type A was 38 percent, type B was 26 percent, type AB was 10 percent, and type O was 25 percent. The researchers concluded that “blood group A had a significantly higher risk for COVID-19 compared with non-A blood groups. Whereas blood group O had a significantly lower risk for the infectious disease compared with non-A blood groups.”" [link to www.healthline.com (secure)] |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 76318119 United States04/13/2020 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a shame when they are still treating this as pneumonia when they know better. people need not die. this amounts to medical malpractice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73531925 people are desaturating oxygen from their blood. they need a transfusion or some drugs to treat this. The problem with this person's case was that he was told to stay home when he originally wanted to go to the hospital. In the ensuing week his fever spiked and he had developed trouble breathing. I imagine the doctors assumed he would be fine, especially considering what shape he was in, and his age. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? It only took him a few days to die after that point, especially once ventilated, and he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart, etc. I'm imagining a cytokine storm and so on facilitated everything, which seems typical in these severe cases. The damnedest things can kill you when this shit ultimately goes south. Same thing with severe influenza, of course... We are all collecting some money here at work for the family. Last Edited by AkashicRecord® on 04/13/2020 03:26 PM Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73531925 United Kingdom04/13/2020 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a shame when they are still treating this as pneumonia when they know better. people need not die. this amounts to medical malpractice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73531925 people are desaturating oxygen from their blood. they need a transfusion or some drugs to treat this. The problem with this person's case was that he was told to stay home when he originally wanted to go to the hospital. In the ensuing week his fever spiked and he had developed trouble breathing. I imagine the doctors assumed he would be fine, especially considering what shape he was in, and his age. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? It only took him a few days to die after that point, especially once ventilated, and he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart, etc. I'm imagining a cytokine storm and so on facilitated everything, which seems typical in these severe cases. The damnedest things can kill you when this shit ultimately goes south. Same thing with severe influenza, of course... We are all collecting some money here at work for the family. he was denied the live saving drug then he was put on a ventilator to destroy his lungs. such a shame they have to get their covid death numbers somehow/ |
| Red Hot Chilean Pepe
User ID: 76933812  Chile04/13/2020 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This person is one of the youngest in my state to die from this virus as he was only 30 years old and passed on Saturday. He was the younger brother of a teacher that works at my (closed) school, and he did some after school gym activities a few days out of the week. He was a personal trainer and was healthy and in good shape. Quoting: AkashicRecord® I didn't know he died until noticing his picture on the front page of today's newspaper; his sister contributed his photograph. His bout with the virus lasted from March 24 through April 11 before he succumbed to multiple organ failure quite rapidly. He was on a ventilator but that didn't save his life. He was one of the rare cases where having a stellar immune system made the situation worse than what would be considered a "normal" response... Sorry to hear that AkashicRecord, very sorry. Hope this helps at least some of the morans realize this is not a Hoax.  All great truths begin as Blasphemies. G.B.S. GLP is like a diamond mine of information, in the sense that you have to shovel mountains of crap to find the diamonds, but it's still worth the pain. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78679565 United States04/13/2020 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a shame when they are still treating this as pneumonia when they know better. people need not die. this amounts to medical malpractice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73531925 people are desaturating oxygen from their blood. they need a transfusion or some drugs to treat this. The problem with this person's case was that he was told to stay home when he originally wanted to go to the hospital. In the ensuing week his fever spiked and he had developed trouble breathing. I imagine the doctors assumed he would be fine, especially considering what shape he was in, and his age. He was prescribed Hydroxychloroquine but it wasn't filled due to not being FDA approved!? It only took him a few days to die after that point, especially once ventilated, and he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart, etc. I'm imagining a cytokine storm and so on facilitated everything, which seems typical in these severe cases. The damnedest things can kill you when this shit ultimately goes south. Same thing with severe influenza, of course... We are all collecting some money here at work for the family. I saw a similar case at Robinson memorial hospital in portage county Ohio. Nurse in his 30's deteriorated rapidly and had to be put on a ventilator. A lot of folks are saying it's nothing but those who get really sick with this virus is defying logic. We need to tread very carefully when opening everything back up. |
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| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 34094826 United States04/13/2020 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... he developed a clot (likely from being weak, bed-ridden, and prone) which traveled to his heart ... Quoting: AkashicRecord® So it wasn't Covid-19. And that's where it becomes kind of a glass half-empty vs half-full since so many other things just "go wrong" once the body is ravaged by the virus...your immune system essentially kills you and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do at that point. He was supposed to get blood plasma therapy today, but he died Saturday... Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 34094826 United States04/13/2020 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This person is one of the youngest in my state to die from this virus as he was only 30 years old and passed on Saturday. He was the younger brother of a teacher that works at my (closed) school, and he did some after school gym activities a few days out of the week. He was a personal trainer and was healthy and in good shape. Quoting: AkashicRecord® I didn't know he died until noticing his picture on the front page of today's newspaper; his sister contributed his photograph. His bout with the virus lasted from March 24 through April 11 before he succumbed to multiple organ failure quite rapidly. He was on a ventilator but that didn't save his life. He was one of the rare cases where having a stellar immune system made the situation worse than what would be considered a "normal" response... Sorry to hear that AkashicRecord, very sorry. Hope this helps at least some of the morans realize this is not a Hoax. Yep! Because apparently now I'm in on it, and had no fricken' clue! :P Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46432626 United States04/13/2020 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This person is one of the youngest in my state to die from this virus as he was only 30 years old and passed on Saturday. He was the younger brother of a teacher that works at my (closed) school, and he did some after school gym activities a few days out of the week. He was a personal trainer and was healthy and in good shape. Quoting: AkashicRecord® I didn't know he died until noticing his picture on the front page of today's newspaper; his sister contributed his photograph. His bout with the virus lasted from March 24 through April 11 before he succumbed to multiple organ failure quite rapidly. He was on a ventilator but that didn't save his life. He was one of the rare cases where having a stellar immune system made the situation worse than what would be considered a "normal" response... He did not die of "the virus." There is NO test for "the virus." He died because people VERY OFTEN get sick and die. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46432626 United States04/13/2020 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This person is one of the youngest in my state to die from this virus as he was only 30 years old and passed on le organ failure quite rapidly. He was on a ventilator but that didn't save his life. Quoting: AkashicRecord® He was one of the rare cases where having a stellar immune system made the situation worse than what would be considered a "normal" response... Sorry to hear that AkashicRecord, very sorry. Hope this helps at least some of the morans realize this is not a Hoax. Yep! Because apparently now I'm in on it, and had no fricken' clue! :P No, just another useless idiot. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78782841 United Kingdom04/13/2020 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was he very very healthy? ie the type to use steroids and performance enhancing drugs? for increasing athletic performance and physical fitness? I have a theory that people who have used certain types of metabolic enhancement hormones or drugs like epo accelerate the spread of the virus in their bodies, somebody uses epo for example for high oxygen blood replenishment and higher than normal blood cell turnover may have actually put themselves in high risk groups. Elite athlete cyclists, rowers etc and explosive weightlifters and possibly boxers/kickboxers brazilian jujtisu practitioners would fit this bill. There have been quite a few high level athletes who have died, a female swimmer was one of them, it would make sense she would be using PEDS like EPO, or inhalation steroids. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78782841 United Kingdom04/13/2020 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was he very very healthy? ie the type to use steroids and performance enhancing drugs? for increasing athletic performance and physical fitness? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78782841 I have a theory that people who have used certain types of metabolic enhancement hormones or drugs like epo accelerate the spread of the virus in their bodies, somebody uses epo for example for high oxygen blood replenishment and higher than normal blood cell turnover may have actually put themselves in high risk groups. Elite athlete cyclists, rowers etc and explosive weightlifters and possibly boxers/kickboxers brazilian jujtisu practitioners would fit this bill. There have been quite a few high level athletes who have died, a female swimmer was one of them, it would make sense she would be using PEDS like EPO, or inhalation steroids. If this theory is correct we might find that population in high altitude could be very badly affected by this, so places like peru could have high death tolls. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78782841 United Kingdom04/13/2020 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This person is one of the youngest in my state to die from this virus as he was only 30 years old and passed on Saturday. He was the younger brother of a teacher that works at my (closed) school, and he did some after school gym activities a few days out of the week. He was a personal trainer and was healthy and in good shape. Quoting: AkashicRecord® I didn't know he died until noticing his picture on the front page of today's newspaper; his sister contributed his photograph. His bout with the virus lasted from March 24 through April 11 before he succumbed to multiple organ failure quite rapidly. He was on a ventilator but that didn't save his life. He was one of the rare cases where having a stellar immune system made the situation worse than what would be considered a "normal" response... He did not die of "the virus." There is NO test for "the virus." He died because people VERY OFTEN get sick and die. There is a test for the virus an ELISA based blood antigen test and a DNA fingerprint test. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78782841 United Kingdom04/13/2020 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was he very very healthy? ie the type to use steroids and performance enhancing drugs? for increasing athletic performance and physical fitness? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78782841 I have a theory that people who have used certain types of metabolic enhancement hormones or drugs like epo accelerate the spread of the virus in their bodies, somebody uses epo for example for high oxygen blood replenishment and higher than normal blood cell turnover may have actually put themselves in high risk groups. Elite athlete cyclists, rowers etc and explosive weightlifters and possibly boxers/kickboxers brazilian jujtisu practitioners would fit this bill. There have been quite a few high level athletes who have died, a female swimmer was one of them, it would make sense she would be using PEDS like EPO, or inhalation steroids. If this theory is correct we might find that population in high altitude could be very badly affected by this, so places like peru could have high death tolls. Would also fit with research and postings ive seen which suggest the virus likes to break down haem groups in RBCS and can directly mess with stuff like blood macrophage responce. Anybody with high RBC counts, blood factor issues or hypersensitive immune systems or auto immune issues could be internally at risk without externally showing signs of being at risk, they might be outwardly very healthy. |
| Moderatefunnyhello
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78782841 United Kingdom04/13/2020 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He did not die of "the virus." There is NO test for "the virus." He died because people VERY OFTEN get sick and die. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46432626 are you going on what the lizard man said about PCR being used, because you do know PCR only amplifies genetic material present in a sample right, thats not how they actually test it, thats just how they replicate enough of the dna to do something like a SNP( single nucleotide polymorphism ) cleave using deoxyribonuclease enzymes which cleave at certain nucleotide points in the dna strain, they then uses gel electrophorresis with a flourescent dna binder to produce an image under uv light that lines the dna fragments up in a unique image which is called a dna fingerprint which is calibrated using a dna fingerprint from the original virus genotype! You know all this right? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77115199  Austria04/13/2020 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was he very very healthy? ie the type to use steroids and performance enhancing drugs? for increasing athletic performance and physical fitness? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78782841 I have a theory that people who have used certain types of metabolic enhancement hormones or drugs like epo accelerate the spread of the virus in their bodies, somebody uses epo for example for high oxygen blood replenishment and higher than normal blood cell turnover may have actually put themselves in high risk groups. Elite athlete cyclists, rowers etc and explosive weightlifters and possibly boxers/kickboxers brazilian jujtisu practitioners would fit this bill. There have been quite a few high level athletes who have died, a female swimmer was one of them, it would make sense she would be using PEDS like EPO, or inhalation steroids. FFS there's a huge hole in your theory. Are all the old grannies and grandpops that die taking the drugs you talk of? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78782841 United Kingdom04/13/2020 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He did not die of "the virus." There is NO test for "the virus." He died because people VERY OFTEN get sick and die. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46432626 You also know about white blood cell counts and how t lymphocytes are massively increased during virus infection right? So with dna fingerprinting, serological antigen testing and WBC counts to check for elevated lymphocytes and syptomatic expression its almost a given the person was sick with the virus. Hmmm? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78782841 United Kingdom04/13/2020 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FFS there's a huge hole in your theory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77115199 Are all the old grannies and grandpops that die taking the drugs you talk of? no they have bad immune systems because of age, the healthy people have either over reactive immune systems or those using performance enhancing drugs have abnormal red blood cell counts leading to rapid infection faster than the immune system can respond. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78566342 United States04/13/2020 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78782841 United Kingdom04/13/2020 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FFS there's a huge hole in your theory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77115199 Are all the old grannies and grandpops that die taking the drugs you talk of? no they have bad immune systems because of age, the healthy people have either over reactive immune systems or those using performance enhancing drugs have abnormal red blood cell counts leading to rapid infection faster than the immune system can respond. basically its a bell curve, anybody in the centre will be fine but the statistical outliers, ie people with immune responce out of the norm, or physiological factors out of the norm are at risk. So healthy normal people fine, everybody else is outside the norm. As i said, if EPO use is a factor id imagine some endurance althetes and perhaps those who live at very high altitude would be seeing higher mortality than average here. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78782841 United Kingdom04/13/2020 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | over active immune response is not a strong immune system its from an autoimmune disorder Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75927074 would depend on the person i guess, elite endurance althetes with high VO2 max might be at higher risk than the general populace due to higher viral load from inhaled droplets/foamites and the ability of the immune system to respond to low level infection and the ability to essentially allow more virons into their respiratory alveolar membranes quicker than their otherwise very healthy immune system can cope. This might lead to results like cytokine storms in lung tissue and essentially drown the victim in their own macrophages and mucus. |
| AkashicRecord®
(OP) User ID: 78791257 United States04/13/2020 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He did not die of "the virus." There is NO test for "the virus." He died because people VERY OFTEN get sick and die. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46432626 You also know about white blood cell counts and how t lymphocytes are massively increased during virus infection right? So with dna fingerprinting, serological antigen testing and WBC counts to check for elevated lymphocytes and syptomatic expression its almost a given the person was sick with the virus. Hmmm? Testing in my state over the past couple weeks has been an absolute clusterfuck of epic proportions! It was taking DAYS to just get a test ordered by a doctor, and then it was another 3-5 days for results, and even that ballooned to up to 10 days! By the time everything was done, you could have already went critical (or died), making the test nothing more than verifying that you are a statistic. In this person's case, they did test positive, and of course all other clinical indications were present for positive COVID-19...including the systemic downfall ultimately leading to a needless (and possibly preventable) death. It's just so weird to me because I essentially worked with the guy, albeit rather indirectly... His sister had been out on maternity leave if I recall. What a horrifying time to have a newborn child... :( Sorry, that message is no longer in the database. |
