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If 80% Wore Masks, This Would ALL Stop...

 
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They moved the goal posts.

Originally it was about flattening the curve and not overwhelming hospitals.

We did that.

Now the stay at home orders are being extended months, until treatments or vaccines.

BULL-FUCKING-SHIT!

This is about destroying the US economy and stealing our election through mail in ballot FRAUD.
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Absolutely.

I'll remind everyone that the curve has been flattened in Sweden. It has stayed flat well below what hospitals can manage for over a month now, without a nonsensical shutdown that destroys the economy. All it took was some very minor behavior adjustments.

Sweden's policy is about flattening the curve until herd immunity is achieved and the thing goes away. It works!

Japan and South Korea have the policy of stopping the spread with widespread use of masks. This works too, but it means you'll never get herd immunity, so the risk of a new outbreak remains indefinitely.

The US policy is about causing as much economic and social destruction as possible and pin the blame on Trump to defeat him in the next election, while creating a crisis that makes it possible to create "change" (in the form of a full communist takeover).

Any American who supports what's being done to them is a complete idiot at best, and a willing accomplice at worst.
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They moved the goal posts.

Originally it was about flattening the curve and not overwhelming hospitals.

We did that.

Now the stay at home orders are being extended months, until treatments or vaccines.

BULL-FUCKING-SHIT!

This is about destroying the US economy and stealing our election through mail in ballot FRAUD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77331063


Not sure if you noticed, but I am not for extending the stay at home orders or for staying "locked down".

And I fully agree that this is being used to push through a totalitarian one world order and destroying America. I don't want that to happen at all!

For those going on about all the other potential avenues of contamination and infection, the DOMINANT route of transmission is through the mouth and nose. Yes, your hands can transmit it to your eyes, nose, mouth, and if someone coughs or sneezes and isn't wearing a mask/face covering it can easily go in through your eyes.

Again, what is being promoted here is mitigation and intelligent re-opening that doesn't result in a hotbed of new infections and pathogenic overload. Lower amounts of pathogens can provide general immunity without causing serious harm.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy

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Re: If 80% Wore Masks, This Would ALL Stop...
They moved the goal posts.

Originally it was about flattening the curve and not overwhelming hospitals.

We did that.

Now the stay at home orders are being extended months, until treatments or vaccines.

BULL-FUCKING-SHIT!

This is about destroying the US economy and stealing our election through mail in ballot FRAUD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77331063


Not sure if you noticed, but I am not for extending the stay at home orders or for staying "locked down".

And I fully agree that this is being used to push through a totalitarian one world order and destroying America. I don't want that to happen at all!

For those going on about all the other potential avenues of contamination and infection, the DOMINANT route of transmission is through the mouth and nose. Yes, your hands can transmit it to your eyes, nose, mouth, and if someone coughs or sneezes and isn't wearing a mask/face covering it can easily go in through your eyes.

Again, what is being promoted here is mitigation and intelligent re-opening that doesn't result in a hotbed of new infections and pathogenic overload. Lower amounts of pathogens can provide general immunity without causing serious harm.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


The numbers do not support this being any worse than a flu.

People are DYING because they are being denied medical treatment like surgeries!

This is an ATTACK on America by the COMMUNIST CHINESE and THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!
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The whole idea of PPE is to properly decontaminate as you remove the PPE. I bet 98 out of 100 of the masktards do not do this correctly.

Are you wearing goggles too? New evidence says it can get you through your eyes

Most are not using the PPE correctly so it is a pissing waste of time

Your hair will be contaminated, your clothes...but I bet you get in your car, take your mask off, run your fingers through your hair and wipe your eyes.

morons

You are only psychologically protecting yourself...you are not actually protecting yourself

and if you weren't a boot licking, government ass kissing dumbass, you would know this
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It's about limiting the viral load you tard.
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Have you ever spit into a screen window as a kid? Not all that spit goes outside. It gets all over the screen. So escapes. Same with a mask. The viral load goes down.


Now if the viral load you inhaled is two particles But you need four to get sick did the mask help you?


If you don’t want to wear a mask. Just say. “I don’t want to wear a mask. I do not care about America. I want the virus to continue.“ And we will all know where your truly coming from and will let you be. But when you say their is no evidence. Well my 4 year old self can tell you masks help the viral load.

But the longer this spreads the higher the chance we will lose our super power in the world.
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You were a gross kid. I never even thought of such a thing!
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putin is this stupid thread still going on?

Pull it!
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Re: If 80% Wore Masks, This Would ALL Stop...
They moved the goal posts.

Originally it was about flattening the curve and not overwhelming hospitals.

We did that.

Now the stay at home orders are being extended months, until treatments or vaccines.

BULL-FUCKING-SHIT!

This is about destroying the US economy and stealing our election through mail in ballot FRAUD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77331063


Not sure if you noticed, but I am not for extending the stay at home orders or for staying "locked down".

And I fully agree that this is being used to push through a totalitarian one world order and destroying America. I don't want that to happen at all!

For those going on about all the other potential avenues of contamination and infection, the DOMINANT route of transmission is through the mouth and nose. Yes, your hands can transmit it to your eyes, nose, mouth, and if someone coughs or sneezes and isn't wearing a mask/face covering it can easily go in through your eyes.

Again, what is being promoted here is mitigation and intelligent re-opening that doesn't result in a hotbed of new infections and pathogenic overload. Lower amounts of pathogens can provide general immunity without causing serious harm.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


The numbers do not support this being any worse than a flu.

People are DYING because they are being denied medical treatment like surgeries!

This is an ATTACK on America by the COMMUNIST CHINESE and THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77331063


Fully and completely agree with the bold! Absolutely.

And yes, hospitals were not overwhelmed and people need to get treatment for other things.

Clearly deaths have been greatly exaggerated.

Yet people are still dying from this without the help of faulty treatment as has been documented in NYC.

Do you not know anyone who has had this?
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People are too stubborn. But if the people who want us to get back to work and get back on with things...if they would only swallow their pride and advocate masks, we could get mostly back to normal. Give a little, get a lot. It's maddening. They don't understand that refusing to wear masks is only prolonging this. Just put on the mask and let's get back to work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2492899


BUT THE MASKS DO NOT DO ANYTHING!!!!!!

I swear to God. People are so dumb. Masks must be fitted and N95 to have the effect you mask tards believe some grandma’s cute little kitten-print piece of cloth over your face has!!! Get real already! You people are beyond belief. Enough with the mask crap!! Worry a lot more about germs on surfaces, if you’re still worrying about a fucking cold virus going into the summer. Ugh. Enough!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78783713


1) Masks stop what YOU spread to others. If everyone wears a mask for others, that means that others are wearing a mask for YOU. If everyone did that for others, we actually would stop transmission. Why can't you think outside of what's good for YOU and think about what's good for OTHERS.

2) Viral inoculum size is indeed correlated with outcome. So if you are wearing a mask and still get infected, but because you filtered out some of the virus but not all, you end up with a smaller initial viral load meaning it takes longer for the virus to replicate to numbers that would overwhelm your immune system buying your immune system valuable time to develop antibodies. This is why doctors and nurses are getting hit so hard...they get too much virus because of all the patients they are exposed to. Meanwhile, a simple surgical mask on you, while not 100% protective, will indeed filter *some* particles increasing your odds of a mild illness rather than severe.


on both of these counts masks significantly contribute to our ability to defeat this and get back to some form of normalcy.

Guess what, there are far fewer germs on surfaces if asymptomatic people are wearing masks and aren't breathing their plague breath all over everything. Again, it's a community response, not a self-centered selfish child response. Start acting like an adult and be responsible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2492899


Absolutely!

And Panther, I refuse to use "herd" immunity. It's general immunity. We are not cattle, so I try to not foster that idea through using that verbiage.

Also, we are in agreement on acquiring general immunity. It looks like that may be possible as now the antibody plasma transfusions appear to be quite helpful to people fighting this contagion.

Where we differ is that I want to do all possible to lower the load of infective transmission. It's clear that a smaller amount of a pathogen gives one's immune system a better chance to fight off that pathogen effectively and gain immunity without getting sick. Additionally, a lower pathogenic load decreases the amount of pathogenic spread, helping others to gain immunity without getting sick as well.

To be absolutely clear, which I thought I was, I am NOT for everyone staying home, not going outside or being terrified.

And you ARE NOT going to catch this from farts. Maybe actual fecal MATTER, but not from gas.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


That we agree upon.
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You are 100% correct OP.

We need to start wearing masks/face coverings when out in public. It's a cheap and effective way to slow down the spread. A minor inconvenience at most!

Get over yourself people and do what's good for the collective.

It's a small (temporary) price to pay to regain some sense of normalcy.
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How very Communist of you.
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I will be one of the 20%ers
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This divisiveness and foolishness has me about ready to pull my hair out.

There is a contagion, and it is killing a great number of people, but not as many as are being reported.

Wearing a light face covering DOES impede the spread and lessen any pathogenic load allowing one's immune system to over come the pathogen. It protects BOTH the one wearing a mask and anyone they come into contact with.

Yes, there is a tremendous amount of propaganda flying on ALL sides of this, and it's incredibly difficult to break through that and get actual facts separated from fiction.

Here is an article with link to one clear study on the efficacy of masks. They work, and they don't have to be n95 masks. Pathogens have to attach to particles to spread through the nose and mouth. They don't have wings and fly on their own.

[link to mashable.com (secure)]

And here is another showing great efficacy of many different types of face coverings:

[link to smartairfilters.com (secure)]

This video is from a very reasonable and proven to be very accurate source. It's about the above referenced study and also a few other things important to our general well being. Approximately 30 minutes.



Can we stop polarizing ourselves and agree that we need to reopen and to do so intelligently?

We have actual cures, but what we don't have is general immunity. We do not need a vaccine, we simply need to act intelligently and be cautious. Not frightened, but cautious.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


The public wearing a mask is the worse thing they can do. You want to know why? Because unlike Dr. who are trained for years on how to wear a mask properly are doing themselves no favors. They are actually inviting viruses..

[link to scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net (secure)]
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The masks are not to stop you from getting the virus. The masks are for stopping you from spreading the virus. Healthy people do not need masks but with all the asymptomatic people how can anyone know if you are truly healthy.
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This divisiveness and foolishness has me about ready to pull my hair out.

There is a contagion, and it is killing a great number of people, but not as many as are being reported.

Wearing a light face covering DOES impede the spread and lessen any pathogenic load allowing one's immune system to over come the pathogen. It protects BOTH the one wearing a mask and anyone they come into contact with.

Yes, there is a tremendous amount of propaganda flying on ALL sides of this, and it's incredibly difficult to break through that and get actual facts separated from fiction.

Here is an article with link to one clear study on the efficacy of masks. They work, and they don't have to be n95 masks. Pathogens have to attach to particles to spread through the nose and mouth. They don't have wings and fly on their own.

[link to mashable.com (secure)]

And here is another showing great efficacy of many different types of face coverings:

[link to smartairfilters.com (secure)]

This video is from a very reasonable and proven to be very accurate source. It's about the above referenced study and also a few other things important to our general well being. Approximately 30 minutes.



Can we stop polarizing ourselves and agree that we need to reopen and to do so intelligently?

We have actual cures, but what we don't have is general immunity. We do not need a vaccine, we simply need to act intelligently and be cautious. Not frightened, but cautious.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


The public wearing a mask is the worse thing they can do. You want to know why? Because unlike Dr. who are trained for years on how to wear a mask properly are doing themselves no favors. They are actually inviting viruses..

[link to scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78688095


The masks are not to stop you from getting the virus. The masks are for stopping you from spreading the virus. Healthy people do not need masks but with all the asymptomatic people how can anyone know if you are truly healthy.
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Shove your mask up youe twat.. Stay at home then..
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This divisiveness and foolishness has me about ready to pull my hair out.

There is a contagion, and it is killing a great number of people, but not as many as are being reported.

Wearing a light face covering DOES impede the spread and lessen any pathogenic load allowing one's immune system to over come the pathogen. It protects BOTH the one wearing a mask and anyone they come into contact with.

Yes, there is a tremendous amount of propaganda flying on ALL sides of this, and it's incredibly difficult to break through that and get actual facts separated from fiction.

Here is an article with link to one clear study on the efficacy of masks. They work, and they don't have to be n95 masks. Pathogens have to attach to particles to spread through the nose and mouth. They don't have wings and fly on their own.

[link to mashable.com (secure)]

And here is another showing great efficacy of many different types of face coverings:

[link to smartairfilters.com (secure)]

This video is from a very reasonable and proven to be very accurate source. It's about the above referenced study and also a few other things important to our general well being. Approximately 30 minutes.



Can we stop polarizing ourselves and agree that we need to reopen and to do so intelligently?

We have actual cures, but what we don't have is general immunity. We do not need a vaccine, we simply need to act intelligently and be cautious. Not frightened, but cautious.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes

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The whole idea of PPE is to properly decontaminate as you remove the PPE. I bet 98 out of 100 of the masktards do not do this correctly.

Are you wearing goggles too? New evidence says it can get you through your eyes

Most are not using the PPE correctly so it is a pissing waste of time

Your hair will be contaminated, your clothes...but I bet you get in your car, take your mask off, run your fingers through your hair and wipe your eyes.

morons

You are only psychologically protecting yourself...you are not actually protecting yourself

and if you weren't a boot licking, government ass kissing dumbass, you would know this
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It's about limiting the viral load you tard.
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The only load you should be worried about is the one your boyfriend shoots down your throat
Only idiots hate facts
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The whole idea of PPE is to properly decontaminate as you remove the PPE. I bet 98 out of 100 of the masktards do not do this correctly.

Are you wearing goggles too? New evidence says it can get you through your eyes

Most are not using the PPE correctly so it is a pissing waste of time

Your hair will be contaminated, your clothes...but I bet you get in your car, take your mask off, run your fingers through your hair and wipe your eyes.

morons

You are only psychologically protecting yourself...you are not actually protecting yourself

and if you weren't a boot licking, government ass kissing dumbass, you would know this
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It's about limiting the viral load you tard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78101890


The only load you should be worried about is the one your boyfriend shoots down your throat
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haha, fucking pimp smacked that kid like it was a leper
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Last Edited by Achduke7 on 05/12/2020 06:56 PM
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Bah Bah Bah

Back in line SHEEP!!
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What are you? A goat?

Are you making the separation of the sheep and the goats yourself?
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Re: If 80% Wore Masks, This Would ALL Stop...
They moved the goal posts.

Originally it was about flattening the curve and not overwhelming hospitals.

We did that.

Now the stay at home orders are being extended months, until treatments or vaccines.

BULL-FUCKING-SHIT!

This is about destroying the US economy and stealing our election through mail in ballot FRAUD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77331063


Not sure if you noticed, but I am not for extending the stay at home orders or for staying "locked down".

And I fully agree that this is being used to push through a totalitarian one world order and destroying America. I don't want that to happen at all!

For those going on about all the other potential avenues of contamination and infection, the DOMINANT route of transmission is through the mouth and nose. Yes, your hands can transmit it to your eyes, nose, mouth, and if someone coughs or sneezes and isn't wearing a mask/face covering it can easily go in through your eyes.

Again, what is being promoted here is mitigation and intelligent re-opening that doesn't result in a hotbed of new infections and pathogenic overload. Lower amounts of pathogens can provide general immunity without causing serious harm.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


The numbers do not support this being any worse than a flu.

People are DYING because they are being denied medical treatment like surgeries!

This is an ATTACK on America by the COMMUNIST CHINESE and THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77331063


The attack by the CCP is misinfo making people refuse to do the simple things like wearing masks that would stop the economic bleeding. But since you refuse to do the easy and cheap things, this will stay with us longer than most places continuing to damage our economy. GG China shills. You successfully convinced the tards to be so obstinate that they let this destroy us.
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You are 100% correct OP.

We need to start wearing masks/face coverings when out in public. It's a cheap and effective way to slow down the spread. A minor inconvenience at most!

Get over yourself people and do what's good for the collective.

It's a small (temporary) price to pay to regain some sense of normalcy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1171822


How very Communist of you.
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It's called COMMunity. It's something we used to have, but you shekel loving Mammon worshipers thought atomization of people was the best means of dividing and conquering. We used to feel responsibility to those around us. Now we are just individual tards doing whatever we each want. I can't think of a better description of cancer in the form of people. Just a bunch of cells refusing to do their part for the betterment of the whole. Now the body dies.
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I note you don't reply to facts...

Any thing about the 'virus' or medicine?

Just ramble about masks... Good for you, make sure it fits well.
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i rather put a piece of fluffy pancake over my face then wear a stupid mask.. Dr Faust asked me not to wear one unless i am sick.

and i aint sick
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WRONG! Until we reach heard immunity people in nursing homes will continue to die. Stop wearing masks and using sanitardzer so you can get the virus and become immune to it. Then once most people have the antibodies, those who dont will be safe because the virus cant spread.

SWEDEN (proof)

OP you are a sheep. Gtfo this site Moran. Go baaaaaaa on facebook.

Bootlicking statist bitch
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I thought the antibodies were the reason herd immunity doesn't work with this virus. The antibodies cause a cykotine storm and the antibodies don't leave if you recover leaving you diseased. I'm not sure but this sounds like it leave people with auto immune problems...not good. Am I wrong on this because this is what I'm understanding so far.
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WRONG! Until we reach heard immunity people in nursing homes will continue to die. Stop wearing masks and using sanitardzer so you can get the virus and become immune to it. Then once most people have the antibodies, those who dont will be safe because the virus cant spread.

SWEDEN (proof)

OP you are a sheep. Gtfo this site Moran. Go baaaaaaa on facebook.

Bootlicking statist bitch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78154796


I thought the antibodies were the reason herd immunity doesn't work with this virus. The antibodies cause a cykotine storm and the antibodies don't leave if you recover leaving you diseased. I'm not sure but this sounds like it leave people with auto immune problems...not good. Am I wrong on this because this is what I'm understanding so far.
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Your understanding is wrong.
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WRONG! Until we reach heard immunity people in nursing homes will continue to die. Stop wearing masks and using sanitardzer so you can get the virus and become immune to it. Then once most people have the antibodies, those who dont will be safe because the virus cant spread.

SWEDEN (proof)

OP you are a sheep. Gtfo this site Moran. Go baaaaaaa on facebook.

Bootlicking statist bitch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78154796


I thought the antibodies were the reason herd immunity doesn't work with this virus. The antibodies cause a cykotine storm and the antibodies don't leave if you recover leaving you diseased. I'm not sure but this sounds like it leave people with auto immune problems...not good. Am I wrong on this because this is what I'm understanding so far.
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What u smokin bra?

I think you have read too much internetz.

What is your question? I mayormaynot of study bio-chemistry.

ANY way you wipe it, it's a load of bollocks.

DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH YOU LAZY FUCKING POTATO

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WRONG! Until we reach heard immunity people in nursing homes will continue to die. Stop wearing masks and using sanitardzer so you can get the virus and become immune to it. Then once most people have the antibodies, those who dont will be safe because the virus cant spread.

SWEDEN (proof)

OP you are a sheep. Gtfo this site Moran. Go baaaaaaa on facebook.

Bootlicking statist bitch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78154796


I thought the antibodies were the reason herd immunity doesn't work with this virus. The antibodies cause a cykotine storm and the antibodies don't leave if you recover leaving you diseased. I'm not sure but this sounds like it leave people with auto immune problems...not good. Am I wrong on this because this is what I'm understanding so far.
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Your understanding is wrong.
 Quoting: Prowling Panther


No. The antibodies are protective against reinfection and als2 plasma from those who have reco ered is proving to help those who are ill with Covid 19 recover from it.

There's still some questions about whether or not it does permanent damage, but the antibodies confer immunity for at least a couple of years according to SARS which was quite similar.
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So yet another divide and conquer war starts between the medical hijab crowd and the anti masks crowd, while the bankers supply both sides and make huge bank when businesses close and people lose their jobs and can't pay their debts.

I wonder what the next crisis will come along with its own divide and conqueror war which will be enabled by the same usual suspects....5aburnit:vlwc:
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no mask will stop "all this"


except a mask against loss of rights.


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05/12/2020 07:03 PM
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Re: If 80% Wore Masks, This Would ALL Stop...
Ah poor scared baby.
Go home and hide under your bed until all danger in life is over.
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05/12/2020 07:10 PM
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Re: If 80% Wore Masks, This Would ALL Stop...
The whole idea of PPE is to properly decontaminate as you remove the PPE. I bet 98 out of 100 of the masktards do not do this correctly.

Are you wearing goggles too? New evidence says it can get you through your eyes

Most are not using the PPE correctly so it is a pissing waste of time

Your hair will be contaminated, your clothes...but I bet you get in your car, take your mask off, run your fingers through your hair and wipe your eyes.

morons

You are only psychologically protecting yourself...you are not actually protecting yourself

and if you weren't a boot licking, government ass kissing dumbass, you would know this
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It's about limiting the viral load you tard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78101890


But surgical masks and n-95 masks have been proven to not limit the inhalation or expulsion of viral load to a degree that will prevent infection. Many studies have been done that show this, as well as studies proving how the minimal infective dose of most viruses in 50% of people is 6 virion particles of less than 3 micron diameter.

Considering that surgical masks and n-95 masks at best allow 5% pass through, and there are typically 10^3 - 10^7 virions per aerolized influenza droplet with diameter 1 µm - 10 µm, it is not hard to understand how more than 6 are expelled or inhaled with each breath.

Here is a thread on the subject, with a link in the OP to a PDF. The researcher reviewed all such studies and summarized the evidence, with citations.

Thread: Masks don't protect against viruses. Comprehensive review of the science
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05/12/2020 07:22 PM
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Re: If 80% Wore Masks, This Would ALL Stop...
WRONG! Until we reach heard immunity people in nursing homes will continue to die. Stop wearing masks and using sanitardzer so you can get the virus and become immune to it. Then once most people have the antibodies, those who dont will be safe because the virus cant spread.

SWEDEN (proof)

OP you are a sheep. Gtfo this site Moran. Go baaaaaaa on facebook.

Bootlicking statist bitch
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I thought the antibodies were the reason herd immunity doesn't work with this virus. The antibodies cause a cykotine storm and the antibodies don't leave if you recover leaving you diseased. I'm not sure but this sounds like it leave people with auto immune problems...not good. Am I wrong on this because this is what I'm understanding so far.
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Your understanding is wrong.
 Quoting: Prowling Panther


No. The antibodies are protective against reinfection and als2 plasma from those who have reco ered is proving to help those who are ill with Covid 19 recover from it.

There's still some questions about whether or not it does permanent damage, but the antibodies confer immunity for at least a couple of years according to SARS which was quite similar.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


the AC you are responding to was thinking of Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE), which does not generally occur when our immune system naturally creates antibodies in response to a virus, but often occurs due to Vaccine induced antibody response, because the antibodies induced via vaccine are just plain different, and often enhance the destructive capacity of a virus when a person is re-exposed to the virus vaccinated against.

The primary symptom of ADE is allowing the virus to attack immune cells, upregulating inflammatory cytokines, and down regulating anti-inflammatory cytokines, ending in immunopathology and massive cytokine storm.





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